Was @ Kings/Lakers in Vegas

by Screamer on Oct 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT Comment 16 comments

It's gonna be a long season. I don't know if there's a gameplan set yet cuz the Kings looked unplanned last night. The Kings looked undersized and outskilled. With Bynum. Mbenga, and Artest on the floor, the Kings just looked so small. The Lakers just threw the ball to the basket, knowing Bynum would pull everything down. Kings didn't have a chance. This is my breakdown on a couple player:

Tyreke Evans - Brought the ball down court and created for himself WAY too many times. Never got the rest of the team involved. He passed more in the 4th quarter (when Kobe, Fisher, and Farmar were done for the evening), so I can see how he piled up 9 assists. But he gos so strong to the hoop. He creates contact and gets the ball to the rim. When he starts getting the foul calls, he'll pile up 12-15 freethrows a game EASY. Gotta work on the jumper. It's pretty ugly

Jason Thompson - Trying an outside jumper. Looks good at times, but he works so hard on the boards, he's gonna tire through games and it won't be effective (shooting) in the 3rd and 4th. Was going strong for offensive boards. His long arms got him to alotta balls. I like his development from last year. Still a tweener (SF/PF). Just don't think his body in thick enough to be a consistant PF. When other teams go big, Kings will get eatin up

Sergio Rodriguez - Tiny. He looked so small compared to Fisher and Farmar. BUT, he ran the team better than Beno or Tyreke. He broke down the defense and set up his teammates for easy baskets. From last night, he would be the guy the start @ PG when the season starts. But I don't think he can score as much as Tyreke and the Kings are still lacking enough consistant scorers to have Sergio playing alot of significant minutes

Spencer Hawes - Still not big enough or strong enough. Bynum overpowered him. His inside game still needs work. He wants to shoot jumpers too much. I think if they (Kings and Hawes) made most of his offensive game jumpers, he would do better than a mostly inside game

Omri Casspi - Worked really hard but was all over the place. His jumpshot looks good. He's gonna make alotta 3s in his career, but has work to do

Beno Udrih, Kenny Thomas - Looked very uninspired. Beno stood around alot. KT didn't try too hard to do anything.

Sean May - The tiniest legs for a big man. Has a huge torso and lil' chicken legs. No wonder he's had knee and ankle problems. And he's been over 300 lbs?

Kevin Martin, Andres Nocioni - Just waiting for the season to start. We know these guys will be ready (though K-Mart needs to hit his free throws)

So that's what I saw. 25 wins should be a bonus, unless a couple players make huge strides during the year.

Love 2 hear ur thoughts

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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I almost agree with the Sergio comment.

He certainly looked great but I don’t think he was playing against their starters. I’d say the backup point position is up for grabs between him and Beno.

Thanks for making the time to share yer opinion.

October 28th couldn't come soon enough.

by JETisKing on Oct 16, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In my mind you can't have Sergio

and Tyreke on the floor together very often…2 bad shooters make for a bad offense. If we could dominate the boards and get a running game going I could see them together more often, but I don’t see board domination in our immediate fututre.

by ElRonToro on Oct 17, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting perspective...

Evans “never” got his teammates involved, but got 9 assists… That kind of stands out as contradictory.

JT is a tweener between SF and PF, but the dude is 6’11" and 250 lbs… Dude, the guy is almost big enough to play consistent Center minutes. Maybe not against the Lakers with all the big dudes, but against most teams it won’t be an issue.

Seemed like Noc had a really good game with good points, rebounding, and defense… Did not sound like he was just sitting around and not playing.

As for the rest I can basically agree except on starting Sergio at PG. Love Sergio, but that means taking either Evans or Martin out and that should not happen. They should start him over Beno as the backup though.

by MustangMBS on Oct 16, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm serious about Evans

The number of times he brought the ball up court, never passed, and then finally shot or went to the hoop was uncountable. The assists probably came from made jumpshots because his passing was nothing to get exicted about

K-Mart and Nocioni had good games. they just didn’t do anything special. But I don’t think we’re looking for that right now. We know they’re gonna bring it. It’s the rest of the team I have questions about

by Screamer on Oct 16, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I hear you, but that is his game. Drive into the defense, brake it down, and pass out to the open guy or at least less covered guys. It creates all kinds of havoc. Thus, Reking Havoc.

You should have seen the Portland game. He would drive and as many as three defenders would just collapse on him. Trying to stop him by sheer human mass. Didn’t work cause he just passed out to somebody who could spot up shoot.

I would be concerned if there were lots of turnovers, but don’t see that. It seems like if his passing was really that bad he would have had a lot more turnovers in 39 minutes.

The L@kers are going to present some problems for Evans driving cause their low post presence is just huge, but nobody can completely stop this kid. That is the exciting part about his potential.

Once he gets his shot going from about 15 feet watch out.

by MustangMBS on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should add

The three defenders also didn’t work cause he often still scored.

by MustangMBS on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Magic Johnson turned the ball over a lot

Of course, he had the ball in his hands 75% of the Lakers possessions too.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09

by pookeyguru on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea but

Magic was overrated – just kidding

by kwill on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As unwilling a passer as you say Tyreke was

the 9 would have tied him for Beno’s season high last year, maybe team high but I’m again too lazy to do the research.

by ElRonToro on Oct 17, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Several things

Beno actually had 10 once last season. John Salmons had 11, and the highest assist game was Bobby Jackson vs Denver in the 2nd to last game of the season.

Source

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09

by pookeyguru on Oct 17, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was once, twice, three times a moron

Actually I feel worse for being THAT lazy to not look it up before I typed. Still, we will accept not Ytreke not being a willing passer if he can post a nine.

by ElRonToro on Oct 17, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

shoot, C-webb was only 6-10

And listed as the sixers/warrios center

by avishai on Oct 17, 2009 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Winning will cure everything.

If Reke did what he did and the team won, won’t matter if he actually got his teammates involved or if he just looked for his own shot, because we won. We’d be raving about how he took over the game, doing every little thing to win (near triple-double).

But because we lost, he’s a ballhog or he didn’t do enough? Hmm…

And while i do get disappointed with his TOs and his shooting… out of the blue it strikes me that, he’s still a ROOKIE. I don’t know how I forget it, but I do. Unreal expectations much? :D

Statistically, this is going to be one of his worst years as a pro, probably the bottom level in his career. And when I put his current performances in that context, it blows my mind.

There's nothing to fear but everything.

by elfboy_ on Oct 17, 2009 1:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

9 Assists & 3 TO's, isn't bad

the only negitive I saw was 4 blocked shoots, but one came on the last play on a last sec breakaway. If going to the basket is going to be his main weapon until he improves his shot, the you have got to expect those kind of negitives.

This is new to the whole team. They’ve never played with this type of player before and everyone is still adjusting including the coaching staff. This is a sub 30 win team playing preseason games, and trying to work things out. People need to fixate of the Positives and enjoy while they can.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Oct 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs