Open Game Thread: Jazz At Kings, Preseason Game 7, 2nd Half
by section214 on Oct 23, 2009 8:00 PM PDT
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I posted the following at 2:15 PM (Pacific) - let's see how close I got...
Jazz 58, Kings 45 at the half. It would be nice if we could get a stop inside, and we better do a little better job on the boards in the 2nd half. And this free throw disparity thing is really beginning to get on my nerves.
Go Kings!
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c,mon kings
pull yourselves together
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not bad
but you forgot to figure in our new improved D. 46-34 Jizz at the half.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
heheh. Jizz. heheh.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
hahahahaha… jizz..hahahaha.. wow.. im 12 again, because I think that is effing funny.
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a penis and you got a vagina......
Hahahahahahha.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha. Vagina. Hahaha.
Yay! Internets.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes about as much sense as Utah Jazz does imo
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriosly. New Orleans and Utah need to switch team names.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was almost right with his prediction!
Almost only counts with hand grenades horseshoes and Laker Fans.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Horny' has got to be one of the worst nicknames in b-ball.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe Danilo Gallinari's nickame is
“El Cock”
Or something like that.
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's
jaques “le cock” grande
by allbenji's on Oct 23, 2009 8:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
OKC made us look like champions last night
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Utah is a better team
Is this that surprising?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
very
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In what universe do you live in?
How can I move there?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Planet Bullshit
In the galaxy of This Sucks Camel Dicks
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't move here either.
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry I don't have the corporate sponsor to move there quite yet
So, maybe next year.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
lamar, chris anderson and Kenyon got in a scuffle at the lakers game. Kenyon is a punk.
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now go tell
his mom that
by allbenji's on Oct 23, 2009 8:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
4 techs already.
Birdman’s ’do is a disaster these days.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow, now the Jazz announcers are really ragging on us
The one guy is such a bro.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You should've heard the pregame
It was really tasteless. If you rag on us and it’s funny or pertinent, that’s fine. But these guys are just a waste of oxygen
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When your outside shot isn't going down, you need to take it inside to stop the run
We didn’t do that, too many 3/s
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 23, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're noticing a negative trend with a team that is a bottom feeder?
Yay!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock starting for May
and Noc in for Mason
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a big boy adjustment
That’s what you’re supposed to do as a NBA head coach.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brockness is in.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hi gang!
I sure hope this is not an indication of what happens to this team when we go up against a defensive minded club – damn you Jerry Sloan!
Brockman starts the 2nd half – gotta go!
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
our two best scoring threats in K-Mart and Cisco are out.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay iPhone!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck these announcers
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans is able to catch in traffic and lays it up & in.....
oh yeah, Ricky Rubio would have been doing that all game long. ( )
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
EVANS IS 6"6'!!11! HE IS NOT PURE PG!
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yes....
He’s not.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just letting y'all know...
Whenever I substitute 1’s for exclamation marks, I’m being sarcastic.
I love Evans
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad for a combo guard...
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shrugs
He could average a triple double and that would only be okay. I’ll only truly be satisfied when he averages a quadruple double.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. He and Kev could go.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's dump their contracts for nothing
But make sure we get a quality player if we trade Nocioni away. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we lose tonight - it's Kev's lack of defense.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that Wes Matthews is killing us tonight
How could Kevin do this to us?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuz Kev sucks - period. He can't even guard a rookie. Shame. Trade'em.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Martin couldn't guard your 150 year old dead grandmother
Why are you stating the obvious? Sheesh!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is very true. It's just so fun to make fun of sorry a$s Kevin Martin.
He’s the sole reason we’re losing this game.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a double triple
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a single quintuplet
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
100 pts, 100 rbds?
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A millie points
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, that doesn't make sense
if a triple double is three stats in double digits, then a double triple is 2 stats in triple digits
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone really buying into the Desmon Mason experiment?
10 minutes played, 0 for 2 FGs.
Good he’s benched to start the 3rd. PW pulls the plug.
by bench_blob on Oct 23, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's more of a defense guy. The Jazz didn't do much offensively when he was in.
Yes, I buy in.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cisco would be starting
coach wants nocioni off the bench
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yet he only has a -1
I really like having him in the starting lineup since it maximizes his usefulness since he’s on the court with our best scorers and he can defend theirs.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact that Kevin has a very athletic defender to scrimmage against.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he continues to score and score and score...most of the time.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOMBRI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Casper for 3
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans got pulled.
5 TOs. And sounds like he got hit in the face, couldn’t tell.
by bench_blob on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Poked in the eye
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 23, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOM-Riiiii
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Block by JT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only 1 on the shot clock for Utah!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And Matthews gets a layup
I hate that shit.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm talking about.
Wow. Dude said ‘recycled’.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we win just to piss off these announcers
by bxgrimm on Oct 23, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL Grimm
Amen.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahah I love this
Utah announcers are just mad. This is great. I love this.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
brockman
with da and 1
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sergio wins jump ball with Okur
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 23, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see Ty Lawson burning the Fake show. Hope he's the difference for them.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Deron Williams with the Tech!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the announcer is in denial
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting back into it
and now wifie is ready to go to dinner – so enjoy!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kings within 5
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and now 4
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Napered
Within 5 means down by 4, 3, 2, or 1. I suppose even a tie game puts you within 5. Carrot Top McDipshit says that all the time.
“Kings within five!”
No, they’re down five. You suck.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a life
If you’re down more than 5 and then move to down 5, it is reasonable to say Kings within 5.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still wrong.
You aren’t within a house if you’re still on the porch.
I’m pissed at him, not at you, angel lumps.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You remind me of my stepfather
he used to go off when an announcer would say there’s no score during a 0-0 game. “There is a score! It’s zero to zero!”
BTW if you go into the house you are now within the house.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crowd is sounding small but enthusiastic...
That’s promising. I’m so pissed that I’m not living in Cali anymore, I wish I could get out there to support!
Also… This announcer is hilarious. “THEY GOT THE WRONG GUY!!!”
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey can someone relink me the radio feed
Accidentally exited out.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Tom.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just so ugly
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I forgot about the html tag
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave Locke should take that awful comment back
by kman949 on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What did he say? I missed it
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halftime they called the Kings absolutely awful.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh ok. Yeah... I caught that one unfortunately
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst part was he was literally laughing at us.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the best part of the Kings making a run right now.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kings fighting back
Seen it all pre-season, lets see it in the regular season.
by rc360 on Oct 23, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only 3 PFs on JT and two have been offensive
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought this was a game thread, not a what the Utah announcers are saying
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 23, 2009 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well only JT and Tyreke are playing even half way decent
so what else we gonna talk about.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Noc looks like he's turning it around a bit now too.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
jizz radio announcers laugh sounds very child molester-esque
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that's profiling, and it's wrong
but true.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha.
I think this loser replaced Hot Rod Hunley. Hot Rod has gotta be rolling over in his grave.
by bench_blob on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this Jazz radio guy realizes Kevin Martin and Cisco are injured.
And out.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
What an insightful comment that is.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiosity...
Isn’t this JT’s last year contract wise?
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
by Apoet on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ah ok, was just wondering
because at this point, I would most certainly keep him over Spencer
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
by Apoet on Oct 23, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea the anouncer forgot about Kmart
Talkin bout whos gonna score for us?
by bxgrimm on Oct 23, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Noc with his 5th foul
That’s not good. Assuming it matters. Which it doesn’t.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no
one more year I think
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Okur's 4th foul
I can live with that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this first name basis thing....
it just sounds….. gay.
by sdfd on Oct 23, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Walton & Kareem Abdul Jabbar would be my guess
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hawes only played 8 minutes
Whats up with that?
by bench_blob on Oct 23, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PW hates white ball players
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawes listens to his iPod too much.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No no no
K-Mart listens to his iPod too much.
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he doesn't. He just sucks. :)
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd think a Seattle kid would have a Zune
But I guess Hawes hates America.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Seattle....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...is a giant zune?
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only when Bill Gates works for Microsoft...
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shipped with pre-loaded viruses.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No No No
It’s really Donte who listens to his iPod too much. Get it right fools!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the score?
sorry, I quit following the box scores. When I did, (for 2nd Q) you saw what happened. Superstition is not stupid. Even in Pre-season.
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by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 8:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
67-58 Jazz.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone seen the new black jersey you can buy at the kings team store?
Have they announced a new jersey? if they go back to black i will be a happy man
by thisismellow on Oct 23, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
are they real game jerseys
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, bring back the Black!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Customized
Not real game jerseys…shame.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
by Apoet on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man gotta get me one of those. Seriously sweet.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cutomized is just what they call it when you can change the name and number
you can buy customized versions of the current white and purple jerseys also
by thisismellow on Oct 23, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow these announcers are just awful.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mainly just the one guy.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the other guy doesn't say anything
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's too busy pretending he's not with the other guy
Because he doesn’t want to be affiliated.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
There is 2 guys in the studio, and that’s the “Other” guy I’m thinking of.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"inneresting"
fuck these announcers
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Donté Greene is an "interesting" player
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eric Maynor > Tyreke Evans
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any question?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you want me to answer your question?
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's so smart, he's learned to play off Evans
because Evans doesn’t have a jumper. Pure Genius!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair...
We’ve been saying the same thing about him for a couple of years. We like some of what we see, and we dislike a lot of what we see
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By "him" I mean Donte
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you don't have to be a dick about it
which he was.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just say something like:
Donté is an interesting prospect. He’s got size and athleticism, but he hasn’t put it all together and relies on the 3 way too much and he hasn’t even hit that consistently.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is this moron talking about?
This guy is the worst announcer I have ever heard.
Hot Rod could announce a better game from the after life.
by bench_blob on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans has a 2:1 To/Ast ratio! YAY!
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And Leon's getting LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGERRRRRRRR
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won the 3rd!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
scrappy squad
2 seasons from now, we gonna be daaaaaaangerous!
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We should go all out in the 4th and try to win this game.
Seriously. A team on the bottom needs all the positive momentum whenever and wherever they can get it.
by bench_blob on Oct 23, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its obvious that what this team is missing most
is guys who can reliably be counted on to put the ball in the basket. And yet we actually have those guys in Martin and Cisco. We could surprise quite a few people.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I miss Cisco
I would not call him reliable in that sense, although he has improved every year.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me be more clear
He’s someone who can hit a basket and score more reliably than anyone else on our team other than Kevin.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That, in and of itself, is a huge problem.
And not only because he’s out for 4 months or so.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
That’s why I’m going to miss him a lot.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May playing the 3?
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good matchup v. Millsap though.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
most likely JT
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?
you mean, May isnt running the point?
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
May can't run
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ianriley WTF?
I just checked your profile page and your three teams are the same as my three teams. Kings, Reds and Rams is a screwed up group of teams to cheer for. We are seriously fucked.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans finally getting to the line a lot.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
announcer says
if evans ever learns how to shoot….
what a douche!! Evans isn’t a great shooter, but he isnt down right terrible either
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"If this announcer ever learns to pull his head out of his ass..."
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll see he's a dickhead
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HIs head would have a lot of shit on it?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dirty Sanchez anyone?
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kings down 3 now
Woohoooo!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean within 3.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN YOU
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its like
click training a dog with posative re-enforcement
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like to be tasered
And I resent the implication that I’m a mutt. I"m a purebreed dammit.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're all damned
So, yeah.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thnk he's playing Power General Manager
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May having a good game
He found that spot on the floor you call the “Sweet Spot!”
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
G-Spot
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If may keeps this up
hawes may be stuck as the back-up
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I think Westphal will alternate based on matchups. He’s not going to start someone just because there a starter. He’s going to play whoever matches up the best. HE KNOWS WHAT HES DOING. I love it.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure about PW's competency?
Cuz, I’m not sure.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Jazz announcer is so uneducated about our team I'm getting sort of pissed.
But I guess thats going to happen a lot this year until we change some minds.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JT & Spencer playing together for the 1st time.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 23, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a miracle
PW stumbled upon it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foul on Fesenko
LOOOOO ZERRRRRRR
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does have a bit of a foul problem
A la Roy Hibbert. But not as bad.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard to believe we're in the game
after 17 turnovers
by thisismellow on Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The turnovers will be obscene this year.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully the rest of our stats will be gaudy
and make up for it.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
we will laugh and cry numberous times each game. i’m up for it!!
by thisismellow on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's about average for last season
difference is we’re out rebounding them and they are only shooting 43%.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, it's an improvement.
It just won’t be great.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
progress, that's all I ask for is progress
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen is progress?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer is 1-5 at the line
He has a mental block at the line. Seriously.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1-6 now.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should back up behind the 3 line
And just miss it from there.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of Nick Van Exel free throws.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spence not shooting well at all.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's getting it out of his system
Fool people into fouling him more often in regular season.
Or he actually sucks.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke and the 4 bigs!
Let’s see it
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
for kousta.. “remember, he’s still 20” but, he’s willing to talk mad shit about all our young guys.
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Koufos
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Giros
Falafel is pretty good too, never had Koufos.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gyros are my favorite Greek food.
Although you should try souvlakia.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
baklava
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't overdo the honey if you make baklava.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kebabs!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedrag, anybody?
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a homer
And also very biased toward the team who pays his salary.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st half highlights are out
They are nice!
by bxgrimm on Oct 23, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I get it now
when the opposing team has a dominant 5, hawes gets the start and gets killed
and when a finesse 5 comes along, may takes over
doesn’t seem fare
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why May was pulled when playing so well.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"He will work it out however he wishessss"
Ugh…
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And it sucks even more because
I don’t actually dislike the Jazz at all… But this guy is single-handedly changing my opinion of the Jazz. He’s like the Glenn Beck of sports radio
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Glenn Beck makes me sort of sad to be a Republican.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't you be ignorant?
Submit to mediocrity. It’s not that bad.
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now he's talking about Free throw leprechauns.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For those of you who wondered about his post-game plans.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JT with back 2 back blocks
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
get out of the way Williams!
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
11 letter word which is overmatched.....
Yeah buddy, you got it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He can count!
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which given his prior experience in the endeavor
I’m quite surprised.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He used halftime to practice.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know
he had that line in his pocket.. he probably spelled it out, then counted the letters during a comercial break, and was just waaaaaaaiting to use that line.
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly I think you're correct
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pleeaasse let us win just cuz of these announcers
by bxgrimm on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They'll just blame it on lineup changes... He'll still keep acting like a douche, unfortunately
... Now let me show you why they call me the Velour Fog...
by tomroadrunner on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
66% from the line
FAIL
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
24% from 3 FAIL
38% Shooting FAIL.
Only down 6? Hard to believe.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude this is what I was thinking at the Golden State game
Our defense and toughness is much improved.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For real.
Evans is 9-11 though, thats good.
Spencer Hawes 1-6, not so much.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hack a Hawes
Will we see that this season?
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and JT is 6-8
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-10 now
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh, yeah he sucks too
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ the sarcastic cheer for hitting fT's
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Noc is about to reel off 15 points
Eh, why not?
SHUT UP.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he keeps talking about
how bad the replacement officials are.. lets talk about how bad this “replacement” announcer is. lol
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Barrel chested bowling ball...
OF ENERGY"
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is the Brockness Monster? Alex?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct!
Pancake connoisseurs for 200
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maynor got his 4th foul
Instead of Fesenko with his 5th.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe 3 of Maynor's fouls were on Evans.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Omri Casspi always scores big points in the 4th!
by bxgrimm on Oct 23, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New nickname
Garbage Time!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss
TURN ON THE SPRINKLERS, DAVID LOCKE IS ON FIIIIRE!!! OH BOY!!
Put that in your juice box and suck it
by ianeriley on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
another good game for the Israeli
why do you have to make it a racial thing?
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now Fesenko has his 5th foul
It was only a matter of time…..
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounded like a frustration foul
Mancakes can do that to you.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when the announcer argues with himself
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He has nobody else to argue with.
No friends.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to imagine why that is too
Seems like such a friendly guy……..
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a bro.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's like me
But employed.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you say something like that?
Somebody likes you. I just don’t know who it is. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sims is good people.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hush! You!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No you don't.
Yes you do.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bet your gay
Am not!. Well maybe….
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, no responses
I thought that was really funny. :(
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the pity response
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
barrel chest to the line
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Next game is League Pass Broadband!
Yay!. I’m so looking forward to actually seeing the players play.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it's amazing how that works.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mancakes miss 2 FT's
Groovy.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"He'll buy one,
no he’ll get one free."
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually he said
He’ll buy one and get one free.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad line, but should be
He’ll buy two and get one free.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May might need to start for Hawes
If he continues to suck
by bxgrimm on Oct 23, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
make em make em make em
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not fast enough for a lot of things
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Such a great story Mr. Announcer.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome
you dont even know
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by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know the capital of the Dominican Republic?
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.....
High powered stuff.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loving it
Douchebag
The future begins now...
by eduardo_m7 on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
This is StR. We do not accept honesty here.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, my bad
Douchebag
The future begins now...
by eduardo_m7 on Oct 23, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
crap and 7 TOs now
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
We’re going to see this a bit this season. I’m not too worried since I expect it to get better with experience.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't want to see 7 too often
4-5 a night, I can deal with. 7 is nasty
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I’m going to say he averages 4 this season, to 5 assists.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his assist may be a bit higher
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again, his turnovers could be too.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm responding to myself.
Classy.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the pookeyguru HOF
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the Billy Idol of STR
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to sing White Wedding or dye my hair blonde
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put Kevin Martin and Cisco on the court
And I agree with you. He isn’t playing with the regular rotations as much as he will be in the Regular season.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's pretty clear the Kings don't have enough shooting on the court with Evans when Martin isn't on the court with him....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Cisco.
Don’t forget Cisco.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah But Cisco ain't playing till February
So for most of the season, Martin matters here.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But long term Cisco matters too I think.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long term Cisco has to be on the court
I’m kinda thinking about next week first.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOW DARE YOU.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a character flaw
Deduct a sims pass off my account.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
15 & 10 for Williams, 2 TOs
So, this guy is pretty good.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Deron Williams is good?
I thought he sucked cuz he wasn’t as good as Chris Paul……
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans doesnt want to show his hand in preseason
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But he could have done so much worse to us last year.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
15 points on 15 shots
Evans has 21 points on 11 shots. Just ignore the TOs.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you can ignore my shitty personality.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus 4 boars, 5 assists, 3 steals and a block.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reke has 4 boars?
What does he do when they get hungry?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bacon.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing to feed a boar I suppose
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing he's not Muslim.
I don’t know that for sure, and don’t care either way. Just making a pork joke.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How dare you insinuate some Muslim's eat pork?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's delicious.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here I am trying to eat nacho's
And you’re telling me about your cannibalistic expectations. Next you’re going to tell me you’re the main character of Oliver’s Twist.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was so funny, I snorted
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost happy I didn't get to watch this
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
time for Bombri? or put in Greene, he will jack em up
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So our defense and rebounding has improved quite a bit.
But our offense definitely suffers without Kevin or Cisco.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jazz guy found a friend to talk to!
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I see ' people
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe you're dead
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need a facebook for Evans ROY!
or not
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maynor < Evans
Thought you knew, bro.
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the quest to narrow down Ice_9ine’s age just got an unexpected boost. 20-22?
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about a myspace page!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've noticed your fetish for age analysis.
Are you a pedophile?
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have candy.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I only go for bacon.
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll have to ask Tyreke then.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah-hahahaha
No, I see I made a mistake. I remember the saiyan comment came from someone with a 9 in their name, and I thought we established 17-23 for you. I thought the fbook comment would narrow the window slightly, but nope… two different people.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fat lady has sung
Game Over
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nice!
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ZOHAN
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They're gonna win 4 road preseason games!
BFD, It is preseason!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but its nice to know the best players take it serious
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that's okay!
Cuz they won 4 games on the road!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep hearing that,
But the standings show those you would expect to have the best records on top and those with the worst on the bottom.
Is something magical going to happen in the “real season”? Probably not. We will win more than last season but expect these results from a team like Utah.
by nothingbutnet on Oct 23, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a response to their radio guy
going off on how great they’ve done after bashing the Kings and every Kings player for the whole game, including saying Maynor was better than Tyreke.
Are we going to suck again this year? Yes.
Is Utah going to be better than 15-26 on the road this year? Maybe, but winning 4 preseason road games against Real Madrid, Charlotte, Portland and Sactown does not guarantee it. BTW they lost at the Clips and the Bulls. I’d be more worried about that Clips loss than phyched by 3 of those wins.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what did i miss?
lol… just got back to the desk??
by Gold Miner 916 on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Deron Williams is better than Tyreke Evans today
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which shouldn't surprise anyone.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I'm shocked by this development i'll admit
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol their announcer is bouta be geeked
by Gold Miner 916 on Oct 23, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
3 decent quarters again, and 1 disaster. Down 12 in the 2nd and we lost by 10.
Bring on the regular season!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait for the regular season
If this pre-season has done anything for me, its gotten me really excited.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
me too
I like 4/5 of our starting lineup. Been a long time since I could say that.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 23, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Also I like our coaching staff. Been a few years for me to be be able to say that too.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
coaching
i agree..
getting an EXPERIENCED coach was the best thing that happened to this team so far this season
by Gold Miner 916 on Oct 23, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I think Tyreke Evans is the best thing that happened to this team
It just so happens that PW is ALSO a quality coach.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Musselman was an experienced coach
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Muss coached 2 yrs at GS
And was an assistant for a number of years starting with his father who was hired in Minnesota in 1989. He had experience. He’s just a shitty head coach in the NBA.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the correction
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I am here for
To be a picklepusssport.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reke, martin, hawes, thompson
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans Martin Thompson & Hawes
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by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You serious?
Evans, Martin, Thompson, Hawes.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans, Thompson, Martin
The rest are backups on a good team.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol nope......
just thought i’d try the smart ass approach 1×. it’s unanimous
by Gold Miner 916 on Oct 23, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
both aykis and pookey are wrong
Hawes is a 4, hence why my lineup is correct. Though Evans really isn’t a 1, so…
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we have 2 2's 2 4's and a Jew in a pear tree?
Good Shalom, I’ve had it with you people.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we the Detroit Lions of the NBA?
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
by haze0945 on Oct 23, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Geoff Petrie with a lobotomy like Alex got from A Clockwork Orange
would still be smarter than Matt Millen or whomever runs the Lions these days. No.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't lobotomized
Although Nicholson was in One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest.
Been a Lakers fan ever since, too.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's true
They did psychadelic brain surgery. It’s been a long time since I seen it. I should own it, and read the book. But, crap.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He watched films with his eyelids held open so he could see the horror
War atrocities, and Reggie Theus coaching films.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reggie Theus was never actually filmed in the act of "coaching"
it’s one of the many urban legends, like the chupacabra. Except the chupacabra would have resulted in a livelier team, at least.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"coach sucker"
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was, however, filmed while "acting coaching"
Hence the common mistake made by Sims and others, namely the Maloofs.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ that
Good call IW.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was fully in support of Theus when he first came on board – not my first choice, but I was willing to go for it. However, when it became clear he was more interested in the drama of coaching and player politicing rather than focusing on the game, I tuned him out the same way his players did.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Westphal would not have won 25 games with that team
But he might have won 22 which is saying something. I think it’s a good thing, in terms of franchise vitality, that Theus and Muss failed. It made Geoff Petrie’s choice for Head Coach that much more important. The fact that there was a short list and real due diligence makes me feel good about the whole process.
Plus, you have assistant coaches with noted chops, plus Pete Carril? How can you beat that. (You can’t.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The assistant coaches should not be discounted
Reggie had the Rifleman as his defensive coordinator!?!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's more the Rex Kalamian, Jason Hamm, Kenhy Natt to a degree of the world that I was referring to
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by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least StR put up 700 comments between the 2 half threads
214 will be pleased.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ANYBODY GOT TICKETS????
i’m interested in a couple tickets for a sunday or monday game
by Gold Miner 916 on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry my dog ate them
Feel free to dig through his feces to find the tickets though. They’re all yours if you do manage to recover them.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the newest youtube sensation
“Pookey and a Popper Scooper”"
…..from the producers of “2 girls and a cup”
by Gold Miner 916 on Oct 23, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that fixes anything
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are the 2 girls?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you really not know?
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“2 girls 1 cup” is a video that spread through the internet like wildfire. If you’re really curious, google it – I wouldn’t dare link to it here. It is extremely revolting, and luckily I heard a description of it, so I have done a pretty good job of avoiding seeing it. It’s something you can’t unsee… so google carefully.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wikipedia
Gives you all you need to know.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Oct 23, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Betty Crocker and Jenny Craig
What's the past tense for "scam"? Is it "scrumped"?
by swoosh91 on Oct 23, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one is the skinny one?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ty lawson
29 pts, 6 ast, 5 steals. Just sayin
by allbenji's on Oct 23, 2009 10:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Not bad
But Kobe and Derek Fisher played 20 minutes combined. Pau and Bynum didn’t play at all. That’s 4/5 of the Laker’s starting lineup not playing. Just sayin.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Oct 23, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey hey
No realism here. Haven’t you been told that’s been around these parts? Sheesh, new people!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What were the Kings thinkin passing him up?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got in and checked the box score
PW needs to tell Mason to never shoot the ball and what the f*&ck is up with Hawes. Did he really play that bad? 1 out of 6 free throws? Is this a misprint?
by nothingbutnet on Oct 23, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got home from the game
Geoff Petrie announced Bobby Jackson’s retirement and he got a 5 minute standing ovation which was awesome. That was actually the high point of the night.
1st quarter I could not believe all the open jumpers the Kings missed. They took good shots, but nothing was falling. Sean May had his shot working but that’s about it. Nocioni got it going a little bit later. I have got a feeling that if Kevin Marting and Cisco were in this game, they would have been playing with a lead instead of trailing.
Tyreke plays like a veteran already. He gets into the paint as easily as anybody I have seen. What he does when he gets there shows that he is still a rook and we need to be patient. Many drives resulted in free throws, many were drives and kickouts to open shooters, and many were turns to pass to the face of the defender resulting in turnovers. He was extremely active both on offense and defense. One of the things that struck me the most were his amazing hands. He has the ability to catch extreme quick errant passes. Almost C-Webb-esque.
Jason Thompson had a decent game. He had a sequence where he blocked (I think it was Koufos) on back to back attempts at the rim. He plays extremely hard. He needs patience inside though as it seems like he rushes his shot in the paint.
Sean May looks smooth especially his shot. Spencer Hawes played atrocious. So did Beno. Jon Brockman rebounds and hustles. Casspi plays like a seasoned NBA player already, he just missed a lot of open shots tonight.
I also learned that Dibs ice cream and popcorn can energize a three year old into pummeling thunder sticks maniacally. Sorry to those in section 117. Thundersticks did not always make contact with each other. Lots of fun though.
by gtrman1973 on Oct 23, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your son had fun
That’s what really matters ultimately.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL yep
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About Hawes... I'd just like to say...
oh, never mind.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 23, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Let me know who you want to replace him
And I’ll be glad to hear it.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 23, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we've been all through this
for more than a year now, pookey. In fact you might remember that only a couple of days ago I made a quick little list per your request naming about, oh, a dozen non-superstar NBA big men who I would waaaaayyy prefer playing center for the Kings.
Did you think I was kidding when I listed (for example) Andray Blatche? Joakim Noah? Javale McGee?
Shit, tonight Paul Westphal took it a step further than I’ve ever thought possible and replaced him with Sean May! I mean, up ‘til now I’ve rationalized by saying "well, Spencer may not be all that great but what the hell, he’s the best 5 the Kings have on their roster.
Now I’m starting to wonder.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 3:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this who you're going to be now?
The guy that shows up to bash Spencer every chance he gets?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I'll be that guy.
How long does Hawes get before you blind fans actually expect reasonable accountability from this professional athlete?
Blah, blah, rahahaha…….“He’s only 21” ………wwahhh, ahhhhhhh!! “He’s still a BABY, give him some time”……..Blahhhhhhh, mah, mah…….
by Iloveeveryone on Oct 24, 2009 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you consult your 2 year old before making that response?
If you did, I feel your 2 year old should represent you more often. That was pretty clever what he/she came up with.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sarcasm they name is
Iloveeveryone.
by betweentheeyes on Oct 24, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a quick example
His fourth season at the age of 21 he played:
70 gms, 12.3 mins, 3.9 points, 3.3 rebounds. He turned into a decent player.
The players that can come in and be studs right away are few and far between, especially at the center position.
This year’s #2 pick is now 22. I bet people will give him a couple of years to develop, before writing him off and he pulled out of Spencer’s draft because he was falling into Donté territory.
How long does he get? He gets until the end of his rookie contract and then you make a decision.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 3:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another point of reference
Spencer is only 2 months older than Casspi and 13 months younger than Brockman
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 3:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donte is barely 4 months older than Omri as well
People act as if these guys are 25 and have tapped their talent.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 3:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might be interested to know
this pookey: Spencer Hawes is only three weeks younger than porn star Sasha Grey! (See, I do my research on this stuff!)
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who is Sasha Grey?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Bash"?
Actually, I assumed that Hawes “performance” tonight spoke for itself, which is why I made a one sentence joke instead of getting pissed off about it and going on a four paragraph rant that would make pookey jealous.
Believe me, if I’d been out to bash the guy you could tell the difference, (and obviously I had plenty of material to work with). What you call a bashing others might see as restraint.
In any case, I really don’t see why you feel the need to defend Hawes so vehemently no matter how crappy he plays.
The thing is, I’ve tried up until now to see the Hawes situation with some perspective, and I’ve always given him credit where it was due. I’m not sure you can say the same thing, Kfan. Jeez, just three or four nights ago you posted a picture of the young Vlade Divac, comparing his development to Hawes. Now it’s Jermaine O’Neal.
It’s getting ridiculous around here. If we walk this back just a step or two, I know that you don’t seriously think that Spencer Hawes has anywhere near the natural physical athletic ability of the young Jermaine O’Neal, right?
C’mon, Kfan, let’s come back to earth a little bit. When a player on your team who’s supposed to be your starting center on opening night scores one point in 20 minutes on 1 for 6 shooting (0 for 2 from beyond the arc), I think it’s allowed for a fan to show a little displeasure.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually you compared Hawes to Vlade
I posted the pic to give some perspective. The same reason I posted about O’Neal, who in his 4th season in the league had produced nothing close to what Spencer has already done in his first 2 seasons. The reason for this is patience.
Do I think he’s a guy I’d want starting today for my championship contending team? Hell no. Do I think it’s too early to write him off? Yes, I do. Am I happy with his play this preseason? No. I was happy with his progress and improvement thru his 1st two seasons, and I hope for continued improvement.
I think there’s a chance for him to become a top 10 center. So, my question is why would you give up on that? What do you think we could reasonably expect to get for him in trade right now? If you can’t get anything better by trading him, then why not let him develop and see what he can do?
Players tend to peak at 26-27 in this league and hold that peak for 3-4 years. That’s the way it works. Writing a guy off when he’s 21 and there’s no reasonable way to replace him, just seems kind of silly to me.
I’m willing to see if he can continue to improve this season. Meanwhile if we get the chance to draft/trade for/sign the next Dwight Howard, I’m sure we’ll do so. In the meantime, I choose to support our developing players and hope that they can reach their potential.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
+ infinity
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
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by section214 on Oct 24, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, wait a sec...
Actually I did not make the original Spencer/Vlade comparison, Kfan. That was section, about 3/4 of the way down the Laker game thread.
On the contrary, I’ve been trying wave people off that kind of comparison because it goes beyond hyperbole into absurdity, and it’s unfair to Hawes.
If I’ve ever used the names “Vlade Divac” and “Spencer Hawes” in a single sentence it’s been to say “Cut it out! These two players do not belong in the same conversation”.
But posting photos if the young Vlade, (as you did, Kfan), showing stats of their respective early careers, etc. is encouraging the comparison, and when I see this stuff it makes me think I’m arguing with people who have really lost their perspective.
Please, let’s forget about Spencer developing into anything like Vlade Divac. It ain’t gonna happen because Hawes simply doesn’t have the physical skill set to be able to do on a basketball court what Vlade could. Like I pointed out before, Vlade Divac finished his career with over 13,000 pts, over 9,000 rebounds, more than 3,000 assists and more than 1,500 blocked shots. The only three other players to do that in NBA history are Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Hakeem Olajoawan and Kevin Garnett. In other words, Vlade is pretty close to earning a plaque in Springfield, Mass.
Vlade Divac is one of the 20 best NBA centers of the past 20 years, while Hawes is… well, let’s just say he’s not that.
The teen-aged Jermaine O’Neal comparison is also far afield because in terms of god-given athletic ability they’re not even close, and the two share almost nothing in common except youth.
If we must make a comparison, how about this: if Hawes can get his head on straight and make progress as a player on offense and defense, maybe he could develop into something close to say a smaller version of Rik Smits. If that happened I think we’d all be very pleased.
And I do hope he develops, and I do support the Kings. Hell, I throw stuff when they lose. But I also care enough to gripe when I see things going off track. In any case,, when Spencer sucks as bad as he did last night don’t be shocked when his detractors make a comment or two. (And like I said, I’d say my comment was very mild)
Finally, I want to bring up something else you wrote:
“…if we get the chance to draft/trade for/sign the next Dwight Howard, I’m sure we’ll do so. In the meantime, I choose to support our developing players and hope that they can reach their potential.”
I’m not trying to pick on everything you’ve said, Kfan, it’s just an example of a type of comment I see a lot at Sactown Royalty: “…hey, maybe Spencer isn’t so great yet, but it’s not that easy to find the next (Dwight Howard, Al Horford etc)”
My larger point is that there’s a helluva lot of wiggle room between Dwight Howard and Spencer Hawes. For example, a player in the same salary zone and with relatively similar minutes played like Joakim Noah or Andray Blatche would greatly improve the Kings in the front court.
I don’t expect Dwight Howard-type play at center. But I do want to see a lot more serious attention paid to rebounding and defense and toughness and hustle in the front court.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want Andray Blatche so much
Would you sacrifice Jason Thompson to get him?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what's so special about Andray Blatche?
What do you see that I don’t? (Plus, Rik Smits had a worse rebound rate than Hawes did.)
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by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
And since when have the Kings had the opportunity to acquire Joakim Noah?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one point at a time.
1) Nah. I’d be very hesitant to trade Jason Thompson for Blatche; certainly not straight up. I like JT’s long term prospects considerably more than I do Hawes’.
2) What is so special about Blatche? Well, he’s much more athletic than Hawes. Quicker, more agile, way better jumper. He’s a mean, aggressive rebounder, who’s very active. Basically Blatche’s potential as a defending, rebounding, shot blocking NBA big man are equivalent to the offensive potential Hawes has. And the Kings could use much more of the former, IMO.
3) Sorry, but what does Rik Smits rebound rate have to do with it? He was a pretty poor rebounder for an NBA center and so is Hawes, but the point was that, when we’re talking about a player’s potential, I could at least accept a general comparison to Smits as opposed to Vlade.
Smits and Hawes: both offensive minded big men with rather limited athletic ability by NBA standards. Still, I think Smits made the NBA All-Star team once or twice, and he lead the Pacer’s in rebounding several times, so really that’s a compliment to Hawes. If he could become as solid a player as Rik Smits was Hawes will be a very good pick.
Or if you don’t care for the comparison, fine, whatever. I just want to get away from the comparison’s that are so far off the mark that they make the guy making the comparison to appear to be wearing rose-colored glasses.
4) Having no hotline to the Bulls front office, I have no idea about the availability of Joakim Noah. Chicago does have something of a logjam with centers who specialize in defense, so I would guess that they would at least listen to offers.
Which reminds me… I seem to recall you arguing from the day they were both selected until no sooner than about a year ago that Hawes was a superior prospect to Noah. Not to threaten your record of always being 100% right or anything, pookey, ;>) but are you now saying you agree that Noah’s the better player?
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No there is no real evidence that Noah is the absolute better player
Noah is what he is. I didnt want him in 2007, and I don’t want him now. I’d much rather have a Derrick Favors type than Joakim Noah with Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson. Even if the Kings don’t get Favors, it’s not like they ever HAD A CHANCE to acquire Noah.
I have no particular dislike of athleticism, but I feel you’re overrating it. Always have had felt that way actually.
Here’s one difference between Hawes & Smits. Smits was drafted 2nd overall; Hawes 10th. (1988 was the same draft that had Rod Strickland, Mitch Richmond, Danny Manning, Hersey Hawkins. Other than Strickland who was drafted top 5, every other one of those guys was top 6 in the draft.)
Noah is clearly the better defensive player than Hawes. And, what’s the point in saying that? I kinda figured that would be the case. Noah’s value is defensive; Hawes offensive. Or, that’s the case for the most part.
For the Kings, absolutely Hawes is the superior prospect to Noah. What Noah does for the Bulls is great, and it would help the Kings I don’t doubt. But it would not be the game changing impact that you seem to believe (or are leaning toward—it’s hard to tell with you sometimes MM) that Noah would provide. As far as player worth TO THE KINGS, I was not excited for Joakim Noah because the Kings needed a star. I believe now, and since I didn’t want Hawes or Noah at the 2007 draft, that Hawes defense is better than Noah’s offense.
You’re hard on Hawes. Fine. He’s earned his share of criticism. He’s goofy, gots a big mouth, and the whole nine. There are also not a lot of 7 footers who grow on tree’s, and certainly a hell of a lot less that has the skills that Hawes happens to possess.
Unless anyone here has seen more regular season games, for the upcoming season, than I have up to this point (obviously there are people who went to Arco twice and saw Hawes live there during this pre-season), than it’s really difficult to say that Hawes has failed.
I don’t think Hawes has reached his potential. I don’t think he’s failed Paul Westphal or the franchise quite yet. If he was 25, I’d be concerned. He’s not, and that’s where I stand.
At this point, all you’ve convinced me is that the Kings don’t have the mad dog shotblocker/rebounding specialist you want MM. Which is fine, but all that makes you is a hoops zealot. Thought you wuz better than that.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, you are mistaken about that, pookey.
Noah is the better player.
He has an all around better skill set. He’s far quicker, has much better length and is ridiculously more agile. He’s an excellent rebounder, a scary-good shot blocker and all around very solid defender.
He runs the court, sets screens, sees and hits the open man, steals passes, picks up offensive rebounds and bangs them back in the basket. He’s also extremely competitive and plays with ferocious energy pretty much every minute he’s on the court.
At the same time Noah has a high basketball IQ, and great court awareness, seldom hurting his team with silly mistakes or bad shots. He’s already contributing as a starter on a winning team.
Also, Noah’s offense, minimal as it is, is not a problem for the Bulls. They have plenty of guys who can put the ball in the hoop, John Salmons, Derrick Rose, etc. By comparison, Hawes defense, minimal as it is, is a serious problem for the Kings.
There’s already two seasons worth of on-court evidence of everything I just mentioned:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BkOW7OllBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gw4dZqQ1eI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09MqX0PYFnw
The reality is that Joakim Noah is already a good NBA player, and he’ll work very hard to improve year by year. Hawes is a question mark.
Eventually we can hope this will change, but for the time being there’s not really any question as to which of the two players has developed the furthest the fastest.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 25, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's something missing in between MM
This is my perspective (emphasis on my) of the continuous arguments about Hawes:
We know that Hawes needs to improve. We know our interior defense needs to improve. These are facts. But there is nothing we can do right now. That’s why everyone ask you about other guys you would want, how you want to get them, and how you want to solve this problem. You keep complaining (criticising) about things that we already know but that have NO solution right now. We keep preaching patience on this topic because this is something that, I believe, will be addressed in next year’s draft or after we find out what we have in Hawes
We really don’t know what we have with this guy. He is a very young player who has improved every year in the league (only 2) and when you actually pay close attention to his stats, he’s playing opponents fairly even. He had a terrible preseason last year and came back strong in the regular season. Making a big deal of his play up until this point is not fair.
Hell, even if he’s still playing horrible by February, there’s nothing that can, or should,. be done. That’s what irritates me. Hawes is who he is right now, you’re not going to give up on a 21 year old player so why keep complaining after every freaking game? Again, if it’s still a problem, hopefully, it will be addressed in next year’s draft that looks to be a big men draft.
Again, to me, the key of the argument is the fact that “Rome was not built in one day.” Looks like we took care of the PG situation with Reke and added a very good young player in Casspi. Criticizing Hawes every time he plays acomplishes nothing but annoy people who know we still have problems and have the patience to understand we are still a work in progress and know that not everything will be solved in one year.
The future begins now...
by eduardo_m7 on Oct 24, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hell it could be argued that Casspi & Evans were drafted because they complement each other
Which means that’s why Casspi was drafted. Well said & rec’d ed.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ed and Pookey said a lot of what I would in response
But let me add this. I obviously wasn’t clear as to why I cited Vlade and Jermaine. So, let me try to explain it a little better. Vlade’s picture. You said, and I quote:
Divac was very strong and considerably more athletic than Hawes. Vlade was a good rebounder and a very good defender most of the time.
Hawes… not so much.
I felt that 30 year old Sacramento Vlade was being compared to 20 year old Spencer. So for perspective I posted the picture of Vlade and the stats at a similar point in their careers. And the pic wasn’t just in response to you, but to the fairness of the comparison in general.
Same for O’Neal. If he were on the team in the same situation as Hawes right now, do you think there’d be any less call for shipping him out? That was the point. A player that started much slower than Hawes became pretty good. Maybe we should be a little more patient with Hawes.
As for the Dwight Howard thing. That was an extreme example. I’m sure we’ll grab one of the guys in the middle too if we get the chance. The point of that statement was: “If we get the chance …” How are we going to get Noah(who will be 25 in February, BTW)? Think they’d do Shock and Hawes for Noah? Would you want too?
All I’m saying is patience.
As for picking on everything I say. Don’t worry. I have no problem with the way you present your ideas. I really enjoy the discussions. Which is the reason I made the “Is this who you’re going to be now?” comment. It would sadden me if you became that type of poster.
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by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK;
I get where you’re coming from, Kfan. And I’m aware that you’re one of the leading lights on this blog. As someone who’s also been posting around here from just about the beginning I find that I’ve agree with you on lots of stuff over the years.
Let me just clear up a couple of things. I wasn’t talking about Vlade at 30. What I said was that from the beginning of his NBA career at age 21 or 22 or whatever it was, Divacs was a better rebounder and defender and all around player than Hawes.
And the point I keep stressing about general physical ability is not a small one. My concern about Hawes long term is that he simply doesn’t have as much room for growth as you and pookey and section seem to believe. His strength is his highly developed ability to create shots and his ability to nail those shots. He’s probably realized a high percentage of his potential in those areas already, which is fine because it’s his ticket to an NBA career.
But the parts of his game that are very underdeveloped, the rebounding, the post defense and overall ability to get between the man he’s guarding and the basket, are going to be harder to improve on significantly due to a general lack of athletic ability. Hawes is flat-footed and has practically no lateral quickness. He’s big but not strong, and his wingspan is mediocre at best. In other words, his limitations are built in in many ways. I’m not saying he can’t or won’t improve as a player overall, (he pretty much has to), but I do question whether the improvements he can make will be of the type that will help the KIngs where they need help most.
Plus he hasn’t demonstrated a great attitude in terms of work ethic, which really diminishes the odds he’ll get a lot better anytime soon.
I don’t think I’ve ever said we should ship Spencer out. He’s not worth very much at this point anyway, and you don’t just dump a lottery pick that quickly for next to nothing.
On the other hand, hey, if we’re playing Junior GM, and the Bulls were willing to trade Noah as you hypothesize, yes I would definitely consider a package deal that included JT and Hawes. In a heartbeat (we’d have to get something else back to make a deal like that work).
Noah is sooo much better than either of our two guys right now. He’s running the floor, making things happen, rebounding like a maniac, getting in opponents faces, making his few shots count, picking off steals, disrupting the other team. Try picturing a player like that working with Tyreke, K-Mart and Caspi!
Meanwhile, sure, I’ll be patient, at least up to a point. I’m not going to jump on line with a rant every time Spencer misses a three pointer.
But I’d love to see some perspective from the people who tend to jump on anyone who has an unkind word about Hawes, then Rec each other’s posts. 21 years old or not, Hawes is not above criticism, and I sort of had the idea that a lively exchange of opinions about the Kings and their players was what this blog is about.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
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by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see some perspective on Shawes too
Unfortunately you aren’t giving any.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is, in a word, crap
… and the fact that you’d make that comment means that either you don’t actually read anything I’ve written about Hawes for at least a year and a half now, or you just weed out the parts in which I actually do offer some perspective.
Let’s look at just a few quotes by me about Hawes.
June 2nd 2008, in a Post by R-Man titled “Would You Trade the #12 pick for Joakim Noah”, I said:
“…I do think Hawes will be a pretty good player in the league…”
On June 11 ’08 there was a post by Ziller in which you (pookey) offered: “…There should be alot of optimism with this team.” ZI disagreed, saying replied " The Kings are in for a very long season, guys…. 30 wins tops". My take on Hawes was:
Great potential as an offensive presence, plenty of room to grow as an NBA player, but doesn’t have the length or the hops to be a good rebounder and like Miller will be overmatched as a defender against more athletic players.
That’s a pretty balanced perspective, I ’d say.
In my own post of July 3rd ’08, replying to YOUR comment, pookey, I described Hawes as:
“…a strong shooter with good passing skills and nice moves around the basket…”
November 14th ’08:
“Hawes, nice offensive skills but he’s a poor defender, and a dicey rebounder…”
Feb 13, 2009:
"He’ll be a nice player on offense and could be a solid NBA player, but he’ll always be a liability on defense against quicker, more athletic players .
April 19th 2009: In which Mystic offered “Comparing Hawes first 2 campaigns over Vlade’s. Hawes more than matches up with Divac, … Can Hawes become as good as Vlade … it’s not that much of stretch.”
I disagreed. Strongly. Just like now. But I did give Hawes credit for:
“…youth and upside as an offensive threat”.
June 29, 2009:
“…Spencer does get up and down the court fairly quickly, and he knows the spots where he wants to get to to try to break down opponents on offense.”
And then, just a few days ago, (Oct 16th) about Hawes I said:
“… he’s got some nifty moves, he’s a better than average shooter from quite a few spots on the floor and he’s a pretty damn good passer.”
And so on and so on. In short I’ve always tried to offer as much balance to my opinion about the kid as possible. Frankly, a lot more than some of the takes on our players that consistently seem to be written through either rose tinted shades or with total dismissal a la “Player X sucks”.
You can disagree with my opinions, pookey… that’s fine. But don’t insinuate that I’m just throwing mud at a wall. You should know better than that.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do disagree with your opinion that Joakim Noah would make the Kings better
(Fair warning, this is also a combination response of both MM’s comment just above with the youtube clips, and this one I’m responding to. Listen to this if you want audio—assuming you read all of this.)
But it has nothing to do with your opinion or how you’ve presented Noah. Next, I wasn’t insinuating that you were throwing mud against the wall and trying to lead some Hawes insurgency. I don’t care if you don’t like Hawes; still don’t actually.
What I said was that I wasn’t seeing any perspective from you, and while you sort of addressed that in the response, you didn’t really do that either. It’s impossible to wrestle with smoke, and that’s exactly why I won’t do it.
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Let’s say you swap Hawes for Noah. You’re better at post defense (obviously), better at rebounding, a bit better at shot blocking, but not by much, and Noah gets a few more steals.
Noah has no low post offensive skills which, surprisingly, neither does Jason Thompson. Taking Joakim Noah and Marreese Speights in b2b drafts gets you exactly what you want. You have more post presence in Speights, more defense/energy in Noah.
But wait, Chicago took Noah with the 9th pick in 2007! You have to trade a piece from the Kings to pry Noah out of their greedy hands. Who do you trade? Kevin Martin? Francisco Garcia? (I doubt the Bulls would have wanted Garcia at that point.) And this is just to trade for Noah during the 2007 draft. So, you immediately downgrade your team for the 2007-08 season to get what?
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I’ve repeatedly asked the question: “If not Spencer Hawes, then who?” This is because it’s a determination of the franchise direction. And, to be perfectly blunt, it’s telling me you disagree with how Geoff Petrie views talent (even though he never had the opportunity to take Joakim Noah in the first place) and puts it together.
This is all very subtle, and easy to deny. “Of course I don’t hate the way Geoff Petrie puts his teams together; I just hate all the players on it.” Over-exaggeration for effect, but I’m sure you get my point.
My problem with your comments has little to do with Hawes. Criticize him for not being athletic, greatly physical, a defensive presence. Criticize him for not having upside, in your view, and that’s all good fine & dandy. I just prefer you direct those criticisms at Geoff Petrie. This is about the guy who PUT THE TEAM together, not the actual guys who make it up. The same guy who took Tyreke Evans, Jason Thompson, Francisco Garcia, and Kevin Martin. Oh, Omri Casspi and Jon Brockman too.
I called you a zealot. (Which you are.) I said you were not bringing perspective about Hawes; I didn’t say YOU HADN’T AT ANY POINT done such a thing. Of course you brought about perspective, in the past, about Hawes. You and multiple others have in fact.
So, while I was glib in what I was referencing, I was mostly talking about the recent arguments about Hawes.
MM, you’re a skilled locker room lawyer. You very much know how to twist facts to illuminate the point you want people to see; that’s not necessarily the same thing as the point you are making. You understand this of course. (You very likely will disagree. Also your right.)
I’m just tired of this argument. It’s extremely hollow, and pointless. Without a proposal of how the Kings can do better, it’s pointless. You’re arguing about the style of play the Kings should employ. Which tells me you hate Geoff Petrie’s weakness (or seem to), but at the same time you don’t mind his strengths.
You can either dislike Petrie fo what he is, appreciate what he is, or whatever, but you can’t have it both ways. It just doesn’t work that way. Pick a side and stick to it.
Or, option C works too. Come up with a feasible and executable plan that Geoff Petrie could follow blindfolded.
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You and everyone else can complain about the direction of the Kings team. You also can complain about what Hawes doesn’t do (as opposed to what he does do).
On the flip side, unless you’re suggesting an alternative that seems greater than the reality of this present Kings team, I find it hard to believe your criticisms have a ton of merit. On the face of things, these criticisms are worthwhile. Start digging, and it’s not so swell. (I could have won this argument last week by simply pointing out that the Bulls didn’t start playing well until they had more balance on offense with Brad Miller & John Salmons—a point you conveniently leave out about Noah.)
You win MM. Spencer Hawes isn’t athletic, doesn’t have the temerity to improve on these fundamental weaknesses that put him behind the 8ball over every other athletically strong NBA player in the block, and that will never change. The Kings should acquire Joakim Noah. I’m convinced that a furball, I mean rebounding maniac/low post defender, would help the Kings in their quest to be a 500 team!!!!!!!!! Joakim Noah FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by pookeyguru on Oct 25, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's that complicated, pookey
You write: " What I said was that I wasn’t seeing any perspective from you"
That’s incorrect. You actually said:
“I’d love to see some perspective on Shawes too
Unfortunately you aren’t giving any.”
AS I pointed out, I have offered perspective on this, repeatedly for more than a year and a half. And now you say you really meant that I haven’t offered any perspective lately?
What perspective would you like me to offer, pookey? The kid has stunk up the joint this pre-season after he skipped Summer League.
I guess I could preface every remark by saying stuff like “Now don’t get me wrong, I think Spencer has all the potential in the world, but would anybody mind if I offered that Etan Thomas and Serge Ibaka combining for eight offensive rebounds tonight was not the kind of effort in the paint I think our frontline is capable of?”
or, in the case of this thread: “Boy, Spencer’s post moves are just terrific, and I hope nobody takes this the wrong way but I must say, going oh-for-six from the field and making one of seven free throws really didn’t help us against the Suns tonight. Agree or disagree?”
Hell, I didn’t even really say anything. My comment was: (“About Hawes, I’d just like to say… oh, never mind”) and for that I get accused of “bashing” him.
When he’s playing as badly as he is right now is it totally out of bounds to even make a mild comment about it? Is there that much herd mentality around here?
Then I’m expected to defend the criticism by offering up alternatives to Hawes, but even when I do that it’s not considered valid by you unless I can figure out how they could actually be acquired! It’s ridiculous.
As for the Noah vs Hawes thing…
you say:
"I could have won this argument last week by simply pointing out that the Bulls didn’t start playing well until they had more balance on offense with Brad Miller & John Salmons—a point you conveniently leave out about Noah.
OK, I didn’t really go into a hypothetical “If Noah-was-on-the-Kings” scenario in any detail because it didn’t seem worthwhile. But obviously the Kings have just as many guys who can score as the Bulls do. Kevin Martin. Tyreke Evans. Jason Thompson. Offense usually isn’t our problem, but interior defense has been the absolute bane of this franchise for about three or four years now.
Maybe I am, as you say, a “zealot” on that point. But I don’t think your perspective is real clear-eyed on this either.
You like to argue that Joakim Noah (or someone else similar) wouldn’t help the Kings in the same way they help their current teams. Fine. That’s conjecture and opinion and there’s no way to prove it either way.
But one thing is not conjecture. The same night Spencer had his 0-6 meltdown, Noah went 5-9 from the field, made three out of four free throws, made four assists, and he had 16 rebounds, 6 of those on the offensive end.
Joakim Noah is a starting center on a winning NBA team and Spencer Hawes just got benched in favor of Sean May on a not very good team.
Joakim Noah had 17 rebounds against the Celtic in a playoff game last year while Spencer Hawes was on vacation.
Joakim Noah is playing very well going into his third NBA season and Spencer Hawes is playing very poorly in his.
You can call him a “furball” or whatever, but right now, quite obviously, Noah is the better NBA player, and the fact that you can’t even admit that, and resort to sarcasm just talking about it, tells a lot about who between us is actually offering “perspective”.
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by Mucho Moss on Oct 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank You for proving my point MM
Have a good day.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 26, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying your wrong, Just I can't buy in to all your reasoning
First, Miller out rebounded and outscored Noah playing on the same team last year. And, yes, Noah had an exceptional game in the playoffs, but Hawes wasn’t totally responsible for being on vacation at the time, nor was Noah the total reason why the Bulls made the playoffs.
Noah averaged 1/2 a rebound per game and .16 more blocks last season more than Hawes did. But, Hawes scored 4.7 ppg more than Noah. So, in my way of thinking, Hawes scoring 28.6 pts more every 6 games, is more valueable than Noah’s 1 block and 3 rebounds every 6 games.
Maybe, Noah will improve more than Hawes over time, and you’ll be proven correct. But, for now, I’ll stick with Hawes.
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by HighTops on Oct 26, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must throw in here -
While I don’t agree with everything Moss says about Hawes, I have a great deal of respect for his overall opinions. MM has had the enviable task of rebutting the Hawes testimony virtually single-handed, and he has done a masterful job.
Hat tip.
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by section214 on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said Section! Rec'd!
But I’d love to see some perspective from the people who tend to jump on anyone who has an unkind word about Hawes, then Rec each other’s posts.
That was for MM.
I think our only real disagreement is on Spencer’s potential, and his Athletic ability.
For potential, we’ll just have to wait and see. As for athletic ability, I think you’re a little hard on him there, but I’ve never seen him live, or on a big tv. It’s hard to really watch him move for extended periods, so I can’t really speak to his lateral movement.
He does seem awkward at times. But I will say I’ve seen some Spencer dunks that Vlade would never have dreamed of attempting.
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by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for the record
I do think Hawes has potential, Kfan. There’s no doubt that he has real talent.
His athleticism is more key to my concerns, because I question his ability to improve in areas that I feel are important, if the Kings are going to compete for a title, exactly because of the weaknesses in his agility, wingspan, strength, etc.
I mean, yes, compared to the average teammate in his high school or even at the University of Washington, Hawes is an excellent athlete. But obviously the NBA is an entirely different universe where arguably the greatest athletes in the world are competing, and you see stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHaoeFUUu0&feature=related
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_0aQY68fTo&feature=fvw
or that Noah play I linked to earlier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kobr7u-lRbA
or this play by Paul Millsap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcl0XHFyXp8&feature=related
At that incredibly demanding level I think Hawes is in the bottom 15%-20% or so.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
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by Mucho Moss on Oct 25, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though I responded the way I did above (and meant every word)
I do agree that Hawes & Thompson are not going to be a championship front line. In fact, at any point, I don’t think I disagreed with that.
However, Favors Hawes & Thompson. You betcha, sign me up.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 25, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure your making your case with these videos
In the Portland one you show Aldridge feeding Roy for a dunk. You show Aldridge running the court for the dunk, and You show Aldridge with the weakside help for the block.
I’ve seen Hawes do the exact same moves.
In the Noah video, he shows outstanding mobility and quickness. He gets steals in the passing lane and blocks with his athleticism. But in every case he’s of limited help on the offensive side. Hawes isn’t as mobil but he’s defense isn’t totally devoid of talent and he’s a much bigger threat on the offensive end. He scored close to 20 pts in half of his games after the tradedeadline last season.
As Pookey pointed out we already have a better Noah in JT. Why would we want another one. JT and Hawes are a far superior duo than Noah and JT. And, although it might be true that Hawes isn’t ever going to get more athletic. It might also be true that Noah may never become more skilled.
Your not going to get a player that is the total package at every position. Sometimes your better off with a player who’s skill match up with the other players you have. Instead of just being the stereotypical type of player for that position.
Take a look at the games Hawes played last season after Feb. He matched up well with Yoa, he outscored Shaq in both PHO games, and he played well against Pau Gasol. No he didn’t stop a lot of people, but his offense offset the play of his opposition.
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by HighTops on Oct 25, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine, High Tops
you make some good observations, but you don’t think my overall point is off the mark do you? (i.e. that Hawes is considerably less athletic than not only Aldridge or Millsap, but a majority of the other big men in the NBA.
If so, yours would be a minority position. And again that’s fine too, but we need some explanation as to why opponents attack the basket so effectively vs Hawes and why he’s pushed around and/or beaten for rebounds so consistently. I think we knew we were getting a guy with limited mobility and hops and wingspan when Hawes was drafted, but so far his defensive liabilities have certainly hurt the Kings at least as much as his offensive skills have helped us.
I don’t really see the “JT is a better version of Noah” argument at all. They’re just not that similar type players, IMO. Actually, I think it’s possible that Shock could develop into a better all-around player than Noah, but the things Noah does for his team (which are generated mainly through his extremely high energylevel, his athletic ability and his court awareness) are pretty special.
I guess my main argument is that, bad as we are, the Kings already have plenty of scorers on the team. But defensively we’re a windmill, especially in the paint.
How does that get fixed?
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as JT being like Noah
I was thinking more as an offensive weapon. Neither can create their own shot. Both score on offensive put backs and assisted dunks. Noah is a better shot blocker, but JT is a year behind Noah in experience, and I believe he’s going to be a good low post defender.
I have no leg to stand on if I try to argue that Spencer is more athletic, then just about any center. But, he’s not totally avoid of athleticism. Strength & experience yes. But, not every winning team, need a young pogostik at center, and not every young pogostick guarantees a winner.
About our poor interior defense. I don’t have an answer because there are a lot of factors involved. Coaching, experience, poor back court play to name a few. And, I’m going to quote a stat from NBA.COM which I’m not comfortable using because they have Spencer listed under Forwards.
Among all forward for last season Spencer is listed 10th in blocks per game, and JT is listed at 40th. So, I ask you, is Spencer the only big on the Kings that’s responsible for poor defense. If not, why does JT get a pass, and Spencer takes all the heat.
Spencer left Bynum in the Lakers game to stop the ball after their guards (Kobe & Fisher) blew by our guards, and Bynum got 2 oop dunks. There was nothing wrong with Spencers defense. But two other players blew their assignments, and not one post of criticism from anyone. Our guards (Kevin & Beno) got beat, and the big that was suppose to switch to Bynum was late. But, people will still look at the Box Score and say Bynum ate Hawes alive. Frye scored 29pts but Spencer was on the bench when Frye scored 13 of those points. Spencer gets all the blame, and no one says a peek about the players that gave up 1/2 of Frye’s points.
IMO, Spencer will get stronger and more proficient at scoring down low in time. He’s athletic enough to run the floor and finish strong, and he jumps high enough to block shots. If he had a better defender to work beside, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. And, finally, Hawes is a better defensive rebounder than JT, and if Hawes didn’t play away from the glass as much as he does on offense, he’d give JT a run for his money on the offensive glass also.
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by HighTops on Oct 26, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
plenty of blame to go around
You’re probably right that Hawes shouldn’t get an undue amount of heat for the Kings woes on defense. Kevin Martin is a turnstile. Udrih is a sieve on D more often than not. The light hasn’t really gone on for JT as of yet.
Really the only player we have who could be a true shut down, one-on-one defender is probably Tyreke, who of course is just a rookie.
So I do agree, Hawes is only part of the problem.
But he is the center on the team. So in terms of defending the middle, that’s a big part of his responsibility, and coincidentally it’s an area where we’ve been getting run over consistently. Teams have been working it down low on us for years now, or just driving directly to the basket like a knife through warm butter. And it seems to me we give up a hell of a lot of offensive rebounds.
Anyway, that’s the gripe I have, and I hope and pray the younger guys step up and become solid defenders.
Meanwhile though, I just want to address the question you posed: “…why does JT get a pass, and Spencer takes all the heat?”
Honestly I don’t see Hawes taking much heat, High Tops, at least not around here. I mean, do you? As far as I can tell, there’s me and maybe two other people in Sactown who have had the nerve to criticize, and when we do, boy, it gets ugly in a hurry.
But just for the record I agree. Jason Thompson also has a long way to go, as do the KIngs in general.
I think the reason this thread became so focused on Hawes is simply because it occurred during a game in which the guy played like somebody they just brought up from the Development League rather than what he is, i.e; an NBA veteran who was a lottery pick and is heading into his third season.
Anyhoo, HTops, I appreciate you taking the time to make a response that you obviously thought about and even researched. For what it’s worth I’m rec-in’ it.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
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by Mucho Moss on Oct 27, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not your criticism of Hawes
I’ve said things similar, or worse, than you already have. I’m tired of the angle you’re bringing myself. Zealotry HO!
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by pookeyguru on Oct 27, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great to see your keeping an open mind,
and on a non-personal basis ;)
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by HighTops on Oct 27, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you say the same thing in the same way repeatedly
Yeah, I become less nice.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 27, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh?
pookey. you just typed: “I’m tired of the angle you’re bringing myself. Zealotry HO!”
Sorry, buddy, I don’t quite grok your lingo. Can you repeat that in Soberese?
Hey, pook, did you see Andray Blatche’s opening night stat line?:
8 of 14 from the field, 20 pts.; 7 Reb (3 offensive), coupla blocks, a steal. Not too shabby, huh?
Maybe I should get on that hotline to GP and start making something happen!
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 27, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Blatche does that for a month
We can talk. Otherwise, stop cherry picking. It doesn’t actually hold up in the long run.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 27, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK. Sorry.
Hey, it’s basketball season, pookey! Like the Partridge Family theme song says: C’mon, Get Happy!
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 28, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm perfectly happy
Hope you’ve enjoyed the NBA tip so far MM.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 28, 2009 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, section
I really do try to be thoughtful (most of the time, anyway) and look at all sides, especially when I’m critiquing one of our own guys.
I’ll say this about Spencer, he has maybe the most developed post moves of any player his age I think I’ve ever seen.
And he showed total class by wearing the Peaches T-shirt!
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
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by Mucho Moss on Oct 25, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is above criticism
But Hawes is the player he was when we drafted him, as is Tyreke. And Hawes gets criticised for not being the inside bruiser who get rebounds while Tyreke gets no criticism for being a guard who can’t shot . How is that not hypocitical?
Every player has to play to his strengths while he works on his weaknesses. Hawes can’t stop being the player he is and stop contributing in the ways he’s able, just to satisfy the fans that what him to be Oden or Bynum.
Does the team even need a center like Noah? We’ve been out rebounding our oppenents and scoring more in the paint.. Sometimes I feel that people are stuck with stereotypical ideas about what it takes to play every position. Can the Kings win with Hawes if we had a dominant PF? Can Evans play PG? Is Magic a guard? Can the Kings win with a SG that only scores? Does every player in the lineup have to be stereotypical at his position to win a championship?
What makes this discussion totally unbelieveable is that it’s based on 6 preseason games of which he only played 5. Five preseason games which weren’t televised, and which most of the people posting havn’t ever seen. Five games against 4 of the toughest teams in the Western Conference with front lines bigger and more skilled than ours. Five games under a new coach and new systems, and only a few weeks of practice.
This isn’t criticism this is a witch hunt. Isn’t Halloween next week?
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is
that Hawes has not even been Hawes lately. Granted, it is just preseason. But being an avid Hawes supporter myself, it has been tough watching him play lately. And not because he is not who I want him to be, but because he has not been who he can be.
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by section214 on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every player has rough spots
so coming off a sprained ankle and playing in a new system with how many (30) different rotation, with new players. I’m still not concerned.
Hawes missed 5 of 6 FT’s and it’s the end of the world. Martin misses 4 of 6 and it’s not big deal. I’m just looking for some equality.
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by HighTops on Oct 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Understood
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by section214 on Oct 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen on the equality angle
I wonder why people say that Spencer is a terrible rebounder, and grabs 5 rebounds in 20 mins last night vs the Jazz. Jason Thompson has 6 boards in 35 mins, and not a single mention of it.
I understand people have their favorite players, and it can cloud judgments, but anyone wanting to say that Hawes & Thompson are perfect absolute products is kidding themselves.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, one more shot. This one about Vlade
I was checking some stats to verify your memory of early Vlade being a better rebounder, because I remembered him being labeled soft and I remember Magic getting in his grill often to toughen up, early in his career. You were right. Vlade was a better rebounder when he came into the league than Spencer has shown.
Vlade’s first two seasons he had 18.2 and 16.7 Total Rebound %,
While Spencer had 14.6 and 14.2.
Then I saw something that made me laugh.
Vlade’s % while in Sac were very similar to Spencer’s: 6 years in Sac 15.0, 14.4, 15.0, 14.8, 12.9 and 11.3.
Obviously Vlade brought a lot more to the table. I just thought that was funny.
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by Kfan in Korea on Oct 24, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is!
Honestly, Kfan, I don’t think I fully appreciated just how great Vlade was until he’d been here a while. I guess I had a prejudice about him because of his time as a Laker.
But he was pretty special… At 30, when we saw him do his thing for us, he was a different player than he was at 23 of course. And he was playing a different role when we had C-Webb grabbing rebounds too. Damn, we were awesome then… (sigh)
I still remember seeing Vlade roll into Harlow’s with Peja one night in 2001 while I was there. I’d seen other NBA players before in person (including Webber in a restaurant on J Street just a few weeks before) but Vlade looked absolutely huge in a suit.
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by Mucho Moss on Oct 25, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think people in general recognize how naturally strong Vlade was
Spencer is not nearly as strong as Vlade was at 21. There is just no way he’ll be as strong as Vlade was at age 30. There is just no way.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 25, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strangely enough
Peja Stojakovic had similar natural strength. Unfortunately, he had little else by the time he left Sac.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 25, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on this one Mucho
While I certainly hope Spencer develops for the good of the team, I have been sorely dissappointed in his performance and attitude this year.
While I’m not ready to throw the baby(literally) out with the bath water, I think the kings really need to look at making an aquisition at the Center position. Someone that is a known commodity that can help ellivate the team to a possible playoff birth in the next three years. There are a lot of big men in the draft in 2010 but as you pointed out, the development at center takes more time than at some of the other positions. Kaman maybe an opportunity in the short term.
Kaman maybe a possibility as the clippers
by nothingbutnet on Oct 24, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moss,
you make some great points. Unfortunatley for you, iloveeveryone is the Sarah Palin to your John McCain – he/she is pulling your whole ticket down. His/her one-trick-pony-inane-blather is undermining your salient points.
I still think that Hawes can be a player. And time is on his side. But it won’t be for long.
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by section214 on Oct 24, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, Hawes sucked
He was truly awful. He sucked so bad it made me question his status on the team and my previous, not so awful, opinion of him. But then I remembered that he was hurt recently. Didn’t he have an ankle problem. His shots look off like he isn’t moving his legs right or something.
I was wondering what happened with Nocioni the first few games and then we found out that he had a knew problem he was getting over. I think this may be the case with Hawes. He is still getting healthy and needs some more time to heal. Not sure or anything, but I can’t think of any likely other answer. Cause to honest this kid is better than he is playing now.
by MustangMBS on Oct 24, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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214,
Look man, I’ve tried going back and forth you, Pooky, and alike about Hawes in previous posts. I have made attempts to give well thought out and relevant points about Hawes, but all I got in return were the same answers, i.e., “name someone to replace him”, “He’s still a baby, give him time”, etc..
So, after another game of Hawes making poor decisions (shooting 3’s when he cant even make a 1 footer) on the court, I made a decision to not get frustrated with it and inject a little satire on this here blog.
My satire was no different than the kind You, Pooky, and others make. Except, I keep my comments clean. You’re welcome. I guess I haven’t made the “club” of joke making on this forum yet?
As far as Moss goes, I don’t even know the guy. However, I couldn’t agree with him more.
So, ya I will make it known when I agree. You know, the same way You, Pooky, and Kfan all ride each others coat tails in defense of Hawes.
BTW, as I recall, I was involved in this ‘Hawes’ argument with you’ll AND THEN Moss chimed in. However, I will admit the guy sure can make his argument, and very convincing too.
All I wanted to know is how long do fans need or get before they are allowed to respectfully critique Hawes’ game?
I felt that was a relevant question, but I’ll check with you next time before asking.
-Cheers
by Iloveeveryone on Oct 24, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh noes! Me and John McCain??!!
Yikes! You’ve gone too far this time, section!
Now get off my lawn!!
;>)
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Oct 24, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, but which lawn? How many lawns do have again, Mr. McCain??
by Iloveeveryone on Oct 25, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re-reading for joke content -
No. I’ll be that guy. How long does Hawes get before you blind fans actually expect reasonable accountability from this professional athlete?
Blah, blah, rahahaha……."He’s only 21" ………wwahhh, ahhhhhhh!! "He’s still a BABY, give him some time"……..Blahhhhhhh, mah, mah…….
by Iloveeveryone on Oct 24, 2009 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, I missed it again. You’re going to have to dumb it down for me, I guess.
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by section214 on Oct 24, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry you missed it.
And no, you are not dumb. You’re not. You are smart; you are! Because you’re smart and not a dumb, dumb, I won’t dumb it down; because you’re smart remember?
You just don’t see it………….
…….you just don’t see it……………….and its okay
…..its okay.
by Iloveeveryone on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is why I don't read the SacBee.com/Sports comments. It almost had me give up
my Kings Fandom. You know, you are represented by your peers and all that.
Thank goodness for action buttons.
by betweentheeyes on Oct 24, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 24, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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