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1st Game - Basic Stats on Rebounding with Some Surprises...


Hi All,

 

When I could not see the game I wondered about how the guys did.  The radio did not really provide enough information.  Being a researcher I love stats and looked them up.  More after the jump.

Star-divide

I looked over all the numbers, but was still a bit confused because it was not clear how well May did with limited minutes.  His numbers were low, but then he hardly played.  Francisco had a lot of defensive rebounds, but he had more minutes than anybody else.  It made me wonder about who was the most efficient player. So, how well does everybody else stack up?

 

I realized I needed some more information and I needed to conduct some crude, to the TZ types, breakdowns by the minutes each player played.  So, I averaged the rebounds by the minutes each player had in the game. 

 

What I found was surprising!

 

OK, for rebounding efficiency it is no surprise that our very own Mancakes take the prize at number one with 1 rebound every 3 minutes of play, but I was surprised the Sean May and Kenny Thomas were basically even with Jason Thompson for second place with about 1 every 3 ½ or so minutes.  What was also surprised that Garcia had more rebounds than anybody, but in looking at how many per minute he is still behind Nocioni and Omri in efficiency.    

 

All this said, perhaps the weirdest efficiency stat was that our starting PG Evans ranked above Center Hawes, who is most likely going to be a starter during the season. And perhaps even worse, Hawes was even in rebounds with our SG Martin, with only 1 rebound every 8 minutes…

 

Ranked Players         MPG   OFF     DEF    TOT    Rebounding Efficiency (TOT/MPG)

 Jon Brockman             18        3          3          6          0.333333333

 Sean May                    14        3          1          4          0.285714286

 Kenny Thomas             7          0          2          2          0.285714286

 Jason Thompson          25        3          4          7          0.28

 Andres Nocioni           17        0          4          4          0.235294118

 Omri Casspi                9          1          1          2          0.222222222

 Francisco Garcia         33        0          7          7          0.212121212

 Tyreke Evans              24        3          2          5          0.208333333

 Donte Greene              8          0          1          1          0.125

 Spencer Hawes           24        1          2          3          0.125

 Kevin Martin               24        2          1          3          0.125

 

I also ran these same analyses for scoring and assists.  SO, if you like this first stab at some basic stats review then there is more to follow.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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If you're surprised by Evans rebounding prowess

You really shouldn’t be.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't it...

I guess I am surprised that a Center would rebound worse than a PG… Hawes did worse than Evans.

I know that he isn’t a stereotypical low-post Center, but worse than our PG…. Hmm… That one still caught me off-guard.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To me

it doesn’t matter who gets the rebounds as long as the Kings are playing the other team even or winning the rebounding game. I think we get a little caught up in the whole “a center should play like this” or a “PG should be like this.”

I really care “who plays like who” as long as the team is being competitive and winning some games.

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should say

I really don’t care “who plays like who”

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I agree, but

isn’t the first step to getting there, winning or even on rebounds, knowing on the team does best at it. That really was why I did this post. Not to slam Spence.

I don’t get hung up on the position of a player and have stated that Spence should not play low, but was still surprised that a 7’ guy still got so few.

In looking at the numbers it looked great for Garcia as having the most rebounds, but then I saw 33 minutes. As it turns out Omri and Nocioni did better by the minutes rate. That is worth knowing…

As it the May and Thomas did as well over all as JT.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand the exercise Mustang

and appreciate it. But to be completely honest, I don’t know how much this analysis would help to draw any conclusions after only 1 preseason game.

I would love to see this same exercise by the end of December and see what we find. Just not in October after a game where most players are coming out of camp rusty, and some of them injured or just not going at 100%.

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

I expect Hawes to get a RB every 4 minutes, I hope as he gets older he improves to a little bit better than that, but demand he does no worse. That being said if Evans gets a RB every 4 minutes he will need to find a spot for the ROY award.
I do expect him to be among the top RB guards though.

by ElRonToro on Oct 7, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And as a rookie

That’s saying something. I really wouldn’t be shocked if he lead all G’s in rebounding given how that not everyone on the Kings is a plus rebounder.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'ing ed's statement for 2 reasons

A: It’s brilliant B: I just wanted to say it’s brilliant twice.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Future playing time at risk

I think that if the future time on the floor for each player is based on how well they do, meaning they have to earn their minutes, then this type of analysis has meaning now.

Right now PW is deciding who to start next game. Will it be based on this game? He didn’t start Hawes and if this game is any basis for how many starts and how much playing time that Spence gets in the future…

In pre-season, you are right, it may not matter. I will plan on doing more of this later. Should be fun, in a data geek sort of way, and hopefully informative.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Mustang but I have to disagree with you

Lineups don’t change because a player doesn’t play well in one game. Lineups change because a player doesn’t play well over a period of time.

I’m 95% sure that Coach Westphal is not looking at this numbers and making his starting lineup for tonight based on them. It doesn’t even matter right now, because I’m almost certain that we will see different lineups this next couple games. This is not because of how a player’s numbers look the game before, it’s just because is pre season!

The reason why I comment on this is because this is how expectations and some baseless criticism start. People look at some numbers and draw conclusions while not even looking at the circumstances.

Please don’t feel like this is an attack on you (as I wrote before, i do appreciate the research), but I just feel like you are looking at this from the wrong context. I think if you give it more time, you’ll find much better results and who knows, maybe they’ll be the same

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said.
In pre-season, you are right, it may not matter. I will plan on doing more of this later. Should be fun, in a data geek sort of way, and hopefully informative.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baseless?

I don’t think it is baseless to look at stats. Contradicts the whole concept and meaning of baseless.

Baseless, means that it isn’t based on fact or any evidence. Looking at stats is actually having some kind of evidence to use. That doesn’t mean you have the right facts, but whatever.

Your posts definitely come across as potentially havings issues with me, but whatever. I got no beef with you.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I apologize if that's the case

I’m really trying to use the correct words so I don’t come off as attacking you, but I guess I’m failing. That being said, I feel strongly about this so my tone now may be worse (you though it was bad before)

I just don’t understand how you can look at stats from one game, a preseason game!!, the first preseason game !! and be able to make any kind of informed judgement. Maybe baseless is not the word; maybe “highly inaccurate.”

If you want to draw conclusions after one game and think that a players stat’s on yesterday’s game will affect the starting lineup today, be my guest.

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhhmm yeah!!

You nailed it that time. Came across as a total attack. Probably all the bold and exclamation points.

Whatever people and I see that post down there as well. I don’t post here to offend anybody.

As I said, yes it may not matter cause it is pre-season. Lighten up already. Jeez, I guy can’t even have some fun looking at how well players did in a game.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got issues with your post too

I think it’s too early, although I just let this stuff sift itself out. If you got problems stating, nicely, their opposition to why they disagree, you’re not going to get along with folks like me. Cuz I’ll rip your ass to shreds for something truly egregious and mind numbing.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

with folks stating^

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta agree with ed here.

I wouldn’t say that your conclusions are baseless, just premature.

You can’t take the first pre-season game and extrapolate much from the stats it produces. It’s what’s called an inadequate sample size.

(And no filthy-minded jokes from you, pookey.)

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 7, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looking at how well everybody did

Ed seems to have issues with me over some past posts. Clearly I offended him. Not about me and about him as he was rude then as well.

I am not imputing missing values or projecting future wins here. Just a simple check on numbers cause I could not watch the game.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Past posts"

I have issues with no one here. I tried my hardest to disagree with you in a polite manner and provided some examples of why. I guess I may be onto something as more than 1 person agrees.

Maybe some words I used may have been inacurate but I stand by my main overall point.

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody could watch the game

Unless they went to Portland. And while it’s fine to look at the stats, it just seems to early to analyze them. I think that’s all anyone is saying.

And I don’t think anyone was being rude until you started being defensive. Eduardo is a nice guy who’s been around a long time without arguing with anybody.

You’re not under attack. Relax just a tad.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 7, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a suggestion LPA

It would be to think of these first 2 games as part of a subset, the other batches of games as different subset’s, and make the pre-season itself as a subset or prelude to the regular season.

But that’s me.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like too much work.

So how you been?

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 7, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last month I dug a ditch and ate too much organic food

This month, bleh. Too much soda, HW, and no Kings relief yet. Bleh.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 7, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did you dig a ditch?

That also sounds like too much work.

(Said the woman with 3 e-mail accounts open on her desktop.)

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 7, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He meant "grave"

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 7, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Because I know pookey appreciated it, and it made me laugh.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Oct 7, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't you picture him

Telling some other guy “I’ll dig the hole, you think I ain’t dug a f#cking hole before?”

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 7, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah -

Just before he clocks the guy over the head with the shovel.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Oct 7, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hate to say it

But if you feel offended by something eduardo said here, the problem most likely lies with you. Dude doesn’t have a jackass bone in his body (from what I’ve seen).

I think LPA hit it on the head…you’re being a wee bit defensive on this whole issue.

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 7, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Appreciate the nice words Otis and LPA

I do like the fact that I don’t really get into bad arguments with anyone here (except for trolls) and try to keep it that way for the most part.

I have no idea why Mustang feels like I’m attacking him or that I have something personally against him. I guess he’s entitled to feel like that all he wants. I don’t really care

I used bold twice on this thread. Once for only one word (preseason) to emphasize why analyzing numbers after one game is pointless. It’s part of making a point, it’s not yelling or attacking anyone. The second time it was used because apparently my point wan’t going through and there needed to be more emphasis.

Mustang, if you are going to hang around here I suggest you stop being so defensive about everything and everyone that s on the opposite side of your ideas. If you are worried about me being mean, you are going to get eaten alive by others once the season starts. Just a friendly advice

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 7, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response

The issue is not disagreeing. It is how you disagree or deal with people and post comments. It seems that you want to be rude, like implying I am a troll. How is it that I am off-base in what I am saying about you having an issue with me given this insult?

You did what amounts to yelling at me. Yes, yelling in a room when disagreeing with somebody is rude. Wouldn’t you say that it is rude if it was done in person? I would expect to get called on it if I did that to somebody else. I have been called on just being a little sarcastic.

I got no beef with you unless you insist on having one. Seems like you do, given the troll insult. Not sure why, but if you insist on this type of insults then I can insist on point them out and calling you on it.

Good night and I hope that this crap is done.

by MustangMBS on Oct 8, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ed

So, since the team isn’t so competitive and it’s not winning some games, we probably should worry a bit about who is doing what, and how the team functions, right?

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean

Even if you’re not considering just two preseason games…

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back from the game and last few words

Just a last few words and then I am done here.

First of all, I am a researcher and what I do is play with numbers. That is just me and who I am. I like to do it and think of different ways to see things using some basic, and at times more advanced, kinds of analysis.

Secondly, am I down on Hawes, not so much. I would have rather known he was on one good ankle cause he really was and is injured. He did not play tonight. ,

Thirdly, Ed does have an issue with me dating back to some idiocy that Section threatened to kick me off of this site about. Not doing that here Section. Just want to clear the air. Anybody can go back and check that there were post from Ed that took offense.

Fourth, to confirm my third point and separately. I now know, from first hand experience, that it feels like somebody is yelling at you when they use bold and !!!!!! together and repeatedly. Doing so is rude in my book and I take offense to rudeness. It really is not OK. If bolding and using exclamation points is polite conversation in this kind of forum and not to be taken as somebody having serious issues then I would be surprised. But maybe that is common place here as I have not been on this site that long. I just have not seen it before even in really seriously pissed off posts.

Also, disagreeing with one another can be and should be done agreeably. This place is supposed to be enjoyable and entertaining. Not some kind of bullshit you get enough of at work and dealing with people you would prefer to avoid, like my ex-wife. Boy is she a piece of work.

Lastly, I don’t get defensive about presenting stats and my writing to others. I also write professionally and I am used to red ink. I also am not all pissed off about or at Ed. It frankly isn’t worth it. I didn’t appreciate the BOLD and !!!!, but I addressed it. Enough said and done. If I have a problem about something I do speak up. If somebody says something that offends me I can and will address it. Learned that had to be done from my ex, did I mention she was a piece of work?

Anyway, the game was good. More to follow separately.

by MustangMBS on Oct 7, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good grief

You’re going to hate the regular season around here.

Now I’ve never been a believer that the majority is always right, but in this case, I think the majority (many of us who have been here a very long time) is trying to give you some guidance. I just read this chain of events for the third time, and I can’t help but laugh at these two comments you have made:

Lighten up already.

Also, disagreeing with one another can be and should be done agreeably.

Some quote about physicians and healing is coming to mind.

Look, Eduardo went out of his way to explain as nicely as possible that which you really should be able to understand – that this analysis is silly after one preseason game. Heck, it wouldn’t mean a damn thing to me if you did the whole preseason and the first couple weeks of the regular season, due to sample size issues. It may be a better idea later on in the season, but this site (particularly its owner) is incredibly stat savvy, and you’re going to see some stuff here that’s going to make your analysis look like my six year old adding 3 apples and 2 peaches together.

Just giving you fair warning. You may want to start bathing in pickle juice, so you can toughen that skin up.

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 8, 2009 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmm, pickle juice

wow, that could easily be taken the wrong way.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Oct 8, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dirty stinking Korean

/channels pookey

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 8, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go back to Stockton you ugly heffer

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 8, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, Otis!

Mustang…your not from around these parts are you, sonny? See things happen a certain way on this board. And if you can’t handle pickle juice stay out of the blog post!!! There is no reason to try to be civil or expect that from your fellow poster—this is raw, in-your-face discussion of basketball!!! This is the wild-blogging west—where anything goes. And if yer new around here, you’d better get used to being on the wrong side of tons of pointless insulting arguments. And stop being defensive (that’s my favorite).

Toughen up yer skin boy…it gets crazy around here during The Season.

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor DustyG

Desperately trying to find a partner’s shoulder to lay his head on.

Dusty, have you read what eduardo said? Do you think he was out of line? How is what he said any worse than your consistently sarcastic asshattery?

P.S. That last question may be rhetorical.

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 8, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Mustang

I appreciate your post. And it seems like people relatively new or ignorant to stats would blurt out “But it’s only one game!”. Cause anyone else would kinda let it go unsaid; it’s obvious.

Stats based on one game are all we had at the time of your post, and it doesn’t hurt to look at them as long as you consider the sample size.

So it’s kinda like “No shit, idiots—it’s only one game. Now keep that in mind as you look over the analysis—or don’t, and belittle the effort on account of your own knee-jerk ignorance.”

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It's a dumb fanpost

And that’s being kind, IMO. Trying to garner any tangible information on the first preseason game – a game where a new coach is trying to get a feel for players he hasn’t spent much time with – is ludicrous.

eduardo pointed this out in a pretty friendly fashion – I’m just saying that if Mustang gets pissed at eduardo for what he said, he’s going to be pissed off pretty much all the time here.

DustyG, if your goal is to make this a happier place for everyone to hang out, maybe being wildly sarcastic yourself isn’t the best way to go about it. It smacks of hypocrisy.

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 8, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With regards to being sarcastic, you are totally right—I have a problem with some of the good-ol’-boy mentality I encounter on the site, and would probably be better served to be less sarcastic in dealing with it.

With regards to the fanpost, you are totally wrong; it’s only a useless post if you fail to consider it’s limitations. If no one could garner tangible information from a preseason game, we probably wouldn’t play them, right? No one is calling out Ziller for his rundown of the game—which includes information gleaned from the game. Is looking at the boxscore dumb? If not, then don’t hate on the stats gleaned from the boxscore, just realize that it’s one game and appreciate someone’s work output.

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not really failing to consider the limitations of the fanpost – in fact, I’d gather I was pointing them out, in my own particular way.

I get where you’re coming from on the “good ol’-boy” thing, and I’m not sure it’s unique to this site. And I don’t think anyone would have been overly critical of Mustang if he had busted out his wrath on someone like me or pookey – we are admitted jackasses. But eduardo is as far from a StR elitist as we have here, and has always been pretty level-headed in his discussions here – so I think everyone was kind of surprised at Mustang’s response.

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 8, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how I attacked mustang

or how I was rude?? Is it because I used bold and exclamation marks twice?? Really?? Are you really that sensitive Mustang??

Here are my quotes

I understand the exercise mustang, and appreciate it
I would love to see this same exercise by the end of December and see what we find.
Sorry Mustang but I have to disagree with you
Please don’t feel like this is an attack on you (as I wrote before, i do appreciate the research), but I just feel like you are looking at this from the wrong context. I think if you give it more time, you’ll find much better results and who knows, maybe they’ll be the same

I mean, if you want disrespectful, just let me know and I’ll give you disrespectful. If you really want to know what I think of your post without trying to be nice just let me know.

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Oct 8, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It surely isn't unique to this site

but it’s especially prevalent. And, to me, what’s strange is, elitism usually doesn’t actually come from the ‘elite’. It seemingly comes from pretenders, those who have little more experience and information than those over whom they claim superiority.

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

rookie mistake

meant as a reply to otis

by DustyG on Oct 8, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's easy to be elitist with you

You don’t bring up anything worthwhile most of the time.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Oct 8, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pickling.. Hmm.. OK here goes

Hi All,

This is truly disgusting, but I will get back to that part.

The whole concept of bathing in pickles reminded me of a dead possum I once had the misfortune to meet. This stupid dead critter got ran over at the end of my driveway. So I picked it up and through it in my garbage. A couple of days later the front of my house smelled of evil rotten carnage. My garbage can sits in the sun all day and basically the heat did a number on things that sent several running and retching uncontrollably.

SO, what the hell was I supposed to do? The garbage man wasn’t due for a couple of day. That just was not acceptable. The smell was taking over the neighbor’s front yard as well. But I sure as hell wasn’t going in after it!

That is when I had a stroke of brilliance. I was going to pickle me some possum. Yep, I was going to brew me up some pickling juice and take care of that possum. I had me a gallon of vinegar and pounds of rock salt. Add some spices and a pickling I went. It worked to. That damned possum was pickled and all was well with my otherwise irate neighbors.

Now to the disgusting part. What? That wasn’t it. Nope, the disgusting part is every bit as vile as the stench of the possum and where I now sit. Faced with the pickling of my own skin. Faced with the potential stinkifiedness of what I had hoped was an otherwise uneventful post I am getting out my vinegar and salt again.

Yep time to pickle away the stench that has invaded this post. As to the ability of pickling to toughen skin. It may take repeated application. But it sure is clearing out my sinuses. I got to say that this sitting in a bathtub full of vinegar and salt probably burns the eyes more than the skin… that is the disgusting place I am in. But then at least I didn’t buy 20 gallons of pickles. I wouldn’t want to have to avoid the potential violation of sitting on a damn pickle. That would be all I need, some damn pickle stuck up my ass!

Oh well, it can’t be all bad. It definitely has given me some perspective. Getting clobbered by misperception about a one game post on numbers seems insignificant when dealing with a wife who now probably won’t touch a different sort of pickle because I now stink so god damned bad. But hey, it may all be worth it if we can all get along a little better. I now have a new response for those that need similar perspective. “Go soak in pickles.”

We will have to wait and see if this pickling helps as much as it did with possum (which is a true story btw).

by MustangMBS on Oct 8, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just so we are clear

Having your wife touch your pickle is way more important than growing a thicker skin for a message board. Actually, here are the choices in order of best to worst IMO:

1. Wife touching your pickle
2. Growing a thicker skin for a message board
3. Damn pickle stuck up my ass!

What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

by otis29 on Oct 8, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Men are so weird.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 8, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We try.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Oct 8, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to come naturally.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 9, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she sa...

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Oct 9, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Really?

Congratulations!

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 9, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Mustang

at least there were a lot of responses to your first post!

Many get a ‘whatever’.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Oct 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True, that is good right?

I sure stirred things up! Oh well, the pickling seems to have worked. Just not sure I can ever face another pickle again. Thanks!

Good game and hanging with you!

by MustangMBS on Oct 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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