Byron Scott fired
Not a big surprise but where does New Orleans go from here?
4 months ago
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Ooops - delete mine please
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You can delete it yourself I think.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can lttg
If you haven’t already. Just go to the comment section and it’ll allow you to edit/delete etc etc.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Interesting to go back now and re-read my interview with At The Hive from this summer.
My first question is: Do you think Byron Scott will be fired?
atthehive: No, I don’t think so. There’s a lot of anti-Scott sentiment floating around right now, especially regarding how he handled his post-game presser on the night of the 58 point loss and how “ready” he had the team. But the more the dust settles, the safer Scott’s job becomes.
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by Exhibit G on Nov 12, 2009 10:47 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I saw it coming
But I don’t think the slow start is completely his fault. Those contracts the front office signed with Peterson, Peja, and Posey are looking reaaallly bad right now. I watch the game last night and Peja looks so slow that I was honestly feeling bad for the guy. He couldn’t make a shot and had no lift whatsoever to grab a rebound.
I blame the front office for not giving CP3 help. The guy is playing out of his mind right now.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Key word: Contract signings. It's not Byron's Fault the Hornets' roster is loaded down with horse manure.
Manure being the sorry overpaid players that can’t produce sh*t. No pun intended.
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by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
any chance he takes a Kings Assistant job????
by B-RAD on Nov 12, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
No.
He wouldn’t choose to backslide like that. The man has a COY award under his belt and is safely tucked into the rotating stable of Head Coaches.
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by Jaycee on Nov 12, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Word up, Jaycee. We'll see Byron as an awesome TV analyst soon.
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by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is terrible
who out there is better? I mean, really?
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
by Ellimist on Nov 12, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Would have been far better to hang on to him until the offseason. There are no better options and as such, a firing this early is sending the message to CP3 that this season is a wash.
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by Jaycee on Nov 12, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe CP3 will want a trade
And New Orleans is hungry for money. Would you guys trade Tyreke + Kenny for CP3? I would.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do it and bake the NO front office cookies as well.
Ah pipe dreams, ain’t they grand?
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by Jaycee on Nov 12, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Tyreke could end up being much better than CP3.
by Ichiban on Nov 12, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a stretch
CP3 still young. I won’t contemplate a trade that has no chance though.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it has no chance in hell in happening.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
for just the past 3 game hoopstats.com
has ranked Tyreke as the 2nd most efficient point guard with a 26.0 rating.
Chris Paul is 1st at 26.7
Steve Nash is tied at 2nd.
That is only in the 3 last 3 games though.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That hoopstats efficiency stat is just a fantasy stat
NBA Efficiency recap = ((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) – ((Field goals attempts – Field goals made) + (Free throws attempts – Free throws made) + Turnovers))
points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks are all weighted equally. Good for measuring a player for your fantasy team, not so good for determining the best point guard, imo.
I’d rather use something like PER, which I’m not really a fan of either. At least that makes an attempt to balance the the importance of each stat.
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by Kfan in Korea on Nov 12, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
very true
good point. still fun to see Evans putting up stats comparable to the best, and since he has, we have been winning. That isn’t complete coincidence. And winning is the most important stat of all.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
You’re not ‘really’ a fan of PER but you used it to back up your opinion on Stephen Jackson? Interesting.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the best we have, but it has flaws.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 12, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WORD UP, Ichiban.
I actually think they’re two TOTALLY different types of players so I actually don’t think they should be compared.
But I think a team could win more in the long run with ’Reke.
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by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No I wouldn't
But that’s me. Nawlinz wouldn’t just take Tyreke & Kenny anyway. Plus CP3 is also BYC and that complicates things.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In fact it's going to be downright impossible for the Kings to get Chris Paul
If the Kings could do that for Tyreke Evans straight up, I’d have to consider it. I don’t know that I’d want to do that all things told. Maybe I’m wrong. CP3 is at worst the 4th or 5th best player in the NBA.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You make no sense sometimes
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by vfettke on Nov 12, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Would I do Chris Paul for Tyreke Evans and Kenny Thomas?
Yes. Would New Orleans no. Therefore, it would take a lot more to get CP3 outta New Orleans (like trade Sacramento for New Orleans situation) and gut the team in favor of taking a few high priced contracts in return.
No trade of Chris Paul won’t absolutely gut the Kings with the Hornets literally trying to get the world for him (which they should do).
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Bower and Tim Floyd!
I would have been intrigued if they fired him to hire Avery Johnson. But when the GM takes over (a GM with one year as an assistant coach) and brings back one of the worst coaches in NBA history to help out … not so good.
by Ziller on Nov 12, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Avery - good call
not a fan of his but I’d say there’s a very good chance of that.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bower
gets to eat his own cooking. Yummmm!
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is George Shinn....
……being George Shinn.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just tossing it out there ...
Evans, Hawes, K-9, Sergio and the 2010 pick, top-3 protected for Paul, Posey and Bobby Brown? Paul is an All-World point guard who could make Thompson an All-Star. Paul + Martin would be the most potent backcourt of the Sacramento era.
by Ziller on Nov 12, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm
temping, but I love where the potential of this team right now.
by what_the_crap on Nov 12, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dare to dream.
Do that plus my Noce for Harpring, Fesenko and one of Utah’s picks and it starts to make sense roster-wise.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK - I did
I won’t contemplate a trade that has no chance though
Sorry ichiban
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant Aykis
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do that one
Who plays C after though? With CP3, Kevin, and JT we could probably just get a decent vet.
I would also love to keep the pick but I’m just greedy
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by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See above
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tough call
I think the scenario you give is probably what it would take. And Paul is incredible. I think the Kings would have to pull the trigger on that deal.
I like Evans and Hawes, but there’s no way you pass up a guy like Paul just because you see potential in the other guys.
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by Exhibit G on Nov 12, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do it
and since we’re dreaming anyway, we do this trade AND get a top 3 pick a la Portland (lucking out in the lottery after improving dramatically the year before). That would be amazing. Pair JT and Favors up front, Casspi or Donte at the 3, and K-Mart and CP3 in the backcourt. I need to go change my pants now.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So let's say it happened.
What is our starting lineup and who are our primary subs?
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by Jaycee on Nov 12, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My best guess
CP3, KEvin, Omri, Noc, JT start
Bench: Beno, Donte, Posey, May, Brockman
This is if we just leave the roster as is after the trade
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by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which we shouldn't
Leaves us with serious lack of height.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For a year, before we bring in a center.
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by Exhibit G on Nov 12, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it happened?
C – JT
PF – Noc
SF – Casspi
SG – Martin
PG – Paul
Bench:
Cisco, Beno, Donte, Posey, May. May is there because he’s the only one who could play Center without Spence.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now contemplate
C – Fesenko
PF – JT
SF – Casspi
SC – Martin
PG – CP3
Bench of Beno, Cisco, Donte’, Posey and May + Draft pick from Utah (a big man) Lots of shooting/ball handling off the bench but still small.
maybe/probably a playoff team if Fesenko can stay on the floor but how close to a contender? I guess that depends on Casspi, Donte’ and the pick. If we were really able to squeeze the NY pick out of Utah (very doubtful) then its a winning future formula and all worries about wasting Martin’s prime are gone.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Fesenko is ready to start in the NBA yet
I’d rather start May or Donte at PF. Refuse to speculate on our draft pick next year until its known where we’ll pick, because knowing GP, he’ll pick a SF or something.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about Cisco
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fesenko
is a big fat lump of coal who’s worth garbage minutes at best. No thanks.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda rough
He’s big and still young though I’m not as crazy about him as Aykis’ is. We do I think need a big center to counteract the Odens, Bynums, Kamans and Jeffersons of the world. (at least off the bench)
But its all just talk.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not "crazy" about him
although I tend to act that way. I use Fesenko as an example of a good young Center prospect who provides some things Spencer doesn’t, and gives us nice size off the bench.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No no
you’re craaaaaazy about him, its too late :)
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Craaaaaaaaaaazy...

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by Jaycee on Nov 12, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Economics
The Kings will never again invest more than $10 million a year on a single player.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
You land CP3 and the seats start filing up FAST.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
The Kings have never had a top 5 player on their team. Chris Paul IS a top 5 player. Which is why I think New Orleans doesn’t trade him. Ever. They’re struggling financially now. Take away Paul, nobody will want to watch.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
C-Webb
At one point, Webber was a top five player, mentioned as comparable to Duncan and KG.
Stupid knees.
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by section214 on Nov 12, 2009 1:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree about the top 5
But a top 10 certainly.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, C-Webb shoulda won MVP the year AI did
Chris Webber
27.1 ppg 11.1 rpg 4.2 apg 1.7 blocks 1.3 steals 2.8 turnovers 48% shoot 70% free throws in 40 mins a game
versus Allen Iverson:
31.8 ppg 4.6 assists 3.8 rebounds 2.5 steals .3 blocks 3.3 turnovers 42% shooting 81% FT in 42 minutes.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wish we had someone like Webber now
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JT will eventually be better.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you think so?
according to hoopstats, he is the 3rd most efficient sophomore, the 6th best power forward, the 13th most improved player
in 2001-2, Webber’s efficiency rating was 27.5
Jason Thompson’s current rating is 20.5
so, it is possible, but the question is really if Thompson has enough room to improve. He is kind of an older player for his second year since he played more college than many of his fellow sophomores.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant JT will get better than he is right now
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
JT will be better than Webber. Unfortunately, maybe not as a King.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it is reachable. his Shock's efficiency is up 6.7 from last season
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Star Power
is a factor. It attracts other good players ect. Its never just about the numbers. But I its a big leap to get to C-Webb #s. Its not a linear thing.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my mistake, the best efficiency they said webber had was 25.9
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is total BS
I have no idea if he will be as good as Webber, I kind of doubt it, CWebb is a borderline Hall of Famer. I think that when people say a 4 year player can’t improve it’s a totally spurious argument. Look at Kobe, he adds something to his game every year. This year he’s getting props for the improvement to his inside game.
A player’s improvement will be limited by their attitude, discipline, character, perseverance, desire to be great etc, far more than if they went to college or not. Obviously, they have to have the game and the physical tools but the great players consistently work in the off season to improve specific areas of their game, conditioning or whatever.
Kobe has had an enormous amount of influence when all his young team mates on the Olympic team saw how hard he worked on improving his game. Dwight Howard, LBJ and Melo for example have all increased their off season training after seeing the discipline Kobe showed.
JT’s future improvement will have far more to do with his desire to improve and the intensity of and the amount of work he is willing to do to achieve his goals than the extra years of college will take away from it.
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by Bluejohn on Nov 12, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if JT works as hard and ends up being a perfectionist
as Kobe is, then we are in for a real treat.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember reading somewhere that JT was fairly happy with
his summer work but that he realized that if he wants to achieve his personal goals that he is going to have to work a lot harder. I’d love to see him spend some time at IMG or somewhere like that. Joakim Noah spent 3 weeks there in June and it appears to have really improved his conditioning and offensive game, such as it is.
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by Bluejohn on Nov 12, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't ever call me a homer after saying that
Seriously CC. That is true homerism.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this needs to be its own post
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are lots of good issues raised here
I think the financial ones really need to be focused on at some point.
In the meantime, I am going to appreciate a fine damn young team playing its little heart out. And JT symbolizes that more than anyone.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hoopstats ranks Hawes
the 27th best center, ahead of Shaq but right behind Biedrins
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's still a kid for the C position
lots of possible upside.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree, thats not too bad
and he has just started to play better.
it is too early to start the stat tracking, really
fun though
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hawes will be OK
Spencer’s issues are both mental and physical.
He needs to toughen up a bit and both speed up his game and slow it down. He needs to cut down on his repertoire and focus on defense, rebounding and perfecting a few go-to moves.
He’s going to require some patience, but I am actually higher on him than I’ve ever been.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it. C-Webb had a certain 'something' that JT doesn't have.
I couldn’t explain but it’s more like a thing where I wouldn’t want to run into a group of five guys in the dark if one of them was C-Webb. If it was five guys with JT, I wouldn’t be so scared.
C-Webb had a certain edge and braggadocio to him that JT doesn’t and will NEVER have. Don’t get me wrong, I like JT a lot but Webber had that little edge to him that separates him from most. That being said, JT doesn’t have that BAD MOJO that C-Webb had so I think JT should be kept around for Karma’s sake. Heh.
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by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kings have a NEAR future top 5 player in Tyreke Evans.
He’s almost there. I’m not drinking the kool-aid – seriously. Evans is key to our future.
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by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say the Kings immediately sell 3,000 more seats a game
(still not sellouts) = 900,000 more sold seats over the last 30 home games x conservatively $50/seat. Thats = $45 million in sales.
but once again – just talking
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not counting the $$$ on food and beer people will be spending.
And the jersey sales, national recognition, etc.
by UCIrvine kings fan on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CP3 throwing Alley-oops to May sells nothing
CP3 isn’t sell seats in NO. And, 2 years ago they were a division championship contender.
So, until the Kings can play conpetetive ball & win a majority of their home games, they’re not selling $4M more in seats.
In case you missed my FanPost on last minute ticket purchase, when the Kings sell 11000 seat, all the cheap seats are gone. In this economy, people aren’t going to pay $68, $78, or $89 to watch the Kings LOSE.
We’re 2 players away & 2 years of development by our young core, before we reach the dominate home court we were during the Adelman years. So, although I’d be willing to trade for CP3, I’m not willing to give up 2 starters to get him. That would just make us 1 more player short of a contender and add 1 more year to our development.
Tyreke & one of our SF’s for CP3, I could live with, but we’re not a better team with him without a legit Center.
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by HighTops on Nov 12, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Modern Math aka What are you smoking?
30,000 × 3 = 90,000 seats, not 900,000. Even if they sold out every game, they don’t have the capacity to sell 900,000 seats a year.
So, by your $50 average ticket guess, you’re talking about adding $4.5 million in sales, not $45 milllion.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3,000 seats x 30 hm games does = 900,000 sold tickets
Whatever I said above
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no - you're right
Guess I shouldn’t have done it in my head. Still that balances the extra for CP3s contract and sells season tix next year.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not counting concessions and parking
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With the Kings luck
Paul would get hurt.
No, the Kings have seen this movie already, first with Webber, now with Martin. They are not shelling out big bucks for anyone. Thye are going to spread their risk across the roster, so get used to signings like Udoka and a focus on the draft.
Looking several years down the road, I don’t even see the Kings giving Tyreke his big payday. Of course, they may be in Anaheim by then.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, someone is having a bad day
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just being realistic
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
take a happy pill
If they don’t get better they won’t sell tickets – they realize that. A fluke injury right after a big contract was just bad luck – nothing more.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even though they've done that with Kevin Martin CC?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was pre-recession.
Have you seen the empty gyms in the highlight reels? The Maloofs ain’t going that route again.
In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Martin go in a salary dump next summer. Quite frankly, it wouldn’t be that hard to rationalize if they keep playing well without him.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and by the way
Kevin Martin isn’t getting $50 mil plus on his next contract, either.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What if he has two healthy years?
Too soon to tell.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The health of the franchise
will be more of a factor than Kevin’s health.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to have a Star or two to go far in the playoffs
and non-playoff teams don’t sell tix no matter what City they play in.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stars will be cheaper in the future
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 12, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do that in a heartbeat
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by vfettke on Nov 12, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about
we get Paul, Posey, Peterson
NO gets: Evans, Hawes, K9, Sergio, Scalabrine, Tony Allen, JR Giddens, pick
Boston gets: Nocioni
Wonder if there’s a way they’d be willing to part with Emeka Okafor
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by vfettke on Nov 12, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think,
New Orleans has aspirations to be a contender. Trading possibly the best PG in the league only puts them into complete rebuilding mode.
Though I wouldn’t have let Scott go at this point in the season, I think the talent on this team if is certainly worthy of a playoff appearance.
Avery may be a good fit here for the next 2-3 years.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They lost $30 mil last year
and are on a pace to do much worse this year and next. Money matters.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure owning an NBA team in a smaller market is ever very profitable,
but losing 30 million is a lot.
I wasn’t aware it was nearly that much. Thanks for the info.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Our front-court would be so awful, though
The Kings wouldn’t have a Center for about 2 years, if this trade went through. This trade would keep the Kings’ salary roughly the same for the next few years, meaning that there isn’t much of a way to sign a Center, other than offer some kind of exception deal. With the 2010 pick thrown out, that means the Kings can’t draft a Center till 2011. You’d might as well just hand the key to the opposing team, because the Kings wouldn’t really have enough height to guard anyone.
Also, I don’t see the point in this trade because it wouldn’t really make the Kings much better than they already are. What’s the point of trading for a top 5 NBA player, if you’re not going to have the supporting cast to really back him up? By the time the Kings to develop a somewhat solid front-court to support CP3, CP3 would be in the last years of his contract. CP3 would probably want to move to a winning team by then. If CP3 decided to leave, the Kings would be in the arm-pit of the NBA, once again.
…I’d rather we just stay the current course with Tyreke.
by CloudyEyes on Nov 12, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This would depend entirely on JT.
Many teams throughout the league have shown that you can be successful with an average center if you have a solid power forward, or vice versa.
Look at the centers/forwards who have lined up next to Duncan? Erick Dampier and his black-hole of a contract next to Nowitzki.
Pick up a discounted veteran, and CP3 would more than make up the difference.
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by Exhibit G on Nov 12, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's CE's point
Uncertainty. We give up our #4 pick ROY, our only Center, a possible top 5 pick in next years draft and make this team as bad as the team CP3 is playing with now. And, he can’t win in NO or fill the arena there. How is he going to do it here.
Didn’t we just go through the we need a playmaking PG to make us a winner, discussion. Only to have people happy we got Evans. Now, we’re going to start it all over with Paul.
Didn’t Evans just play a great game against Paul? Tyreke , Martin, JT , a top center in the draft, and a FA SF with our $13M cap space, makes us a better team then Paul, Martin, JT , no center, and FA SF.
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by HighTops on Nov 12, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give up all three
so there would probably be no deal. Now, the 2011? Maybe.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I say we figure out how to secure Cole Aldrich in the draft.
If we are going to try and trade for a big name, my pick would be Chris Bosch.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His contract is up this year so, I guess it would be
free agency.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Evans > Paul in the long run.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CP3 a proven Superstar
and still young, so pending proof – I completely disagree
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
For rational thinking.
Chris Paul is only 24, and I think he’s going into the HOF down the road. I love Tyreke, but that is a high bar to hurdle.
Desmond Mason - Untied the balloon in Colorado, forged Obama's birth certificate, and ruined the careers of Omri Casspi and Tyreke Evans.
by otis29 on Nov 12, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It'll be hurdled.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's totally fine.
Tyreke will be a superstar who will take control of games in the future. He’s already affected the games in a big way that Sacramento has already won. Saying CP3 is a proven Superstar is stating the obvious. He’s a superstar alright but he can get posted up and dominated by bigger and stronger point guards (ie. Deron and Billups – also see Denver owning the Hornets from last year’s playoffs). We know there aren’t too many cats at Tyreke’s position that can give him the same trouble.
I wouldn’t trade Evans for CP3 at all. Evans has the potential to be a ‘Wade’, a ‘Kobe’ and most of all, a damn great Tyreke Evans. Give Tyreke a nice big man that can handle his own in the paint and Tyreke will take you further than Paul ever took the Hornets. Trust me.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting pretty close to agreeing with you
the last couple of games I could hardly watch at times just thinking how good ‘Reke can be in a few years, He’s pretty dang good now. If we could trade for CP3 you have to make that trade. I thought we’d kind of secretly agreed not to have any lengthy discussion about fantasy trades that will never happen but maybe that’s just me.
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by Bluejohn on Nov 12, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its the 'could be' thats the problem
He could end up just being very good. We know what CP3 is, a franchise player.
This is probably a silly discussion anyway but not being willing to trade a rookie for a 24 yr old Chris Paul? Ummmm – yes.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so Maynor > Evans > Paul
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Nov 13, 2009 3:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Begs the question
Is New Orleans blowing everything up or not? A lot of conjecturing that they are it would seem.
I would never let go of CP3. Ever. That is like saying the L@kers would trade K@be.
The trade to get rid of Chandler hurt them more than they counted on and there really weren’t a lot of other good moves that I saw, but then I don’t follow them that much.
Is this just the Front Office of NO blaming this on Scott. Cause maybe it isn’t all on him.
by MustangMBS on Nov 12, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They're bleeding $$ in a very BIG way
$80 mil including luxury Tax and have no one else they could move if there’s a strict financial decision. But point certainly taken.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul is the only reason New Orleans gets any money from ticket sales.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 12, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And they're still not doing that great
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/attendance
and locked into bleeding $ for at least this season and next
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..
Sound like a lot of (mis)management issues. I really never saw Scott as that bad of a coach, but I know they have lost a lot of games…
by MustangMBS on Nov 12, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
New Orleans gave the Clippers 3 million in cash so they would take Rasual Butler
But that saved about 4 million in total cost so I understand it.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good for them
Scott isn’t that great, he has had great point guards to coach for him. And he always seems a little too smug, you know?
Watch him end up taking Theus’ job in Minny. Like a reunion for him and Rambis.
I also predict the Hornets win 11 in a row like the Nets did with Lawrence Frank when he replaced Scott.
And there is no freaking way the Hornets trade CP3. There is no way to fix there situation now. They are broken, financially, emotionally, and are gonna be mediocre for awhile, with the exception of Paul.
Although I think of all the teams that could make a trade work, the Grizzlies or Warriors would have the most of what the Hornets need in return.
Also, if the Kings wanna trade for Chris Paul, my offer starts at Martin, Hawes, K9’s expiring, and a future protected first round pick. Not next years though.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 1:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have Evans and CP3
Than CP3 and Martin.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 1:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yea,
but I don’t think they would.
The front office trade Chandlier due to injury issues. Kmart’s record on injuties would scare them off.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus,
they would need a quality PG to replace CP3.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eh, they got Darren Collison
He shouldn’t be too bad.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 2:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
if i am Cleveland
This is when I call New Orleans and offer them everything they want short of LeBron James.
Shaq, Williams, West, draft picks. Even a skeleton of a team with LeBron and Chris Paul would be worth it if James stuck around to play with the world’s best point guard. And they would compete every night.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 2:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland has nothing to trade
no picks, no players – nada in my opinion. Two old centers, two OK SGs (one with mental problems), PG – isn’t that LaBron? an OK back-up PF in Varajao and little promising youth.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
make them eat your bad contracts along with Paul
Paul, Posey, Stojakovic, Hilton
for
Shaq, Williams, West and Hickson,
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How long...
until Ailene screams for the Maloofs to hire him? Unless Bill Laimbeer is available, of course.
by AJ11 on Nov 12, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is bullsh*t.
You take a man’s talent away and expect him to win with nothing. He had CP3, an underachieving David West and a bunch of players that couldn’t beat the 2nd best team in the ACC (that’s pretty low, I know). I’ll add, we all know Peja’s brick laying ass needs to retire. Talent wise, this Hornets team sucks and they won’t win jacksh*t when Byron’s gone either.
To say that Kidd took those Nets teams to the finals is horse sh*t. Who else was on that team? You’re going to tell me Kidd took that team to the finals by his damn self? Who was on there? An up and coming Richard Jefferson and a Kenyon Martin who owes his whole career to his point guards? Who else had great NBA-level talent? Kerry Kittles? Brian Scalabrine? Keith Van Horn? Give me a break.
Byron Scott got shafted then with New Jersey and he’s getting shafted now because the owners are a bunch of knee-jerk reaction morons who don’t know any better. If you think the Hornets woes are Coach Scott’s fault, I’d say you’re a moron too. Scott is a teacher and is a former student of one of the best coaches in the game. Byron Scott is a good coach – period.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
true, but it was the eastern conference
and the East was really, really, really, really, really bad back then.
I think it is less of a situation where Scott can’t coach Xs and Os than it is that he seems to have a hard time trusting his players, and thus they end up quitting on him. He has never been able to pick or develops young talent either.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
to illustrate how bad the East was compared to the West then
the Nets won 61 games in the 2002-03 season.
they went 45-22 against their own conference. only 16-17 against the West
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's still an accomplishment considering the lack of talent he had.
Don’t tell me every other roster was just as talentless. Jason Kidd couldn’t have been the only difference that put NJ over the top in the East. Feel free to research the rosters to prove your point. Seriously, give coaches the respect they deserve. Coaches make the difference in this league. Other coaches have had their shot with MJ, Kobe and Shaq and only a few made it work.
You’re not going to change my opinion, man. Dude got shafted then and now. Research away, Doc.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, so in the 2002 playoffs (you remember, when the Kings took the Lakers to game 7)
the matchup in the Eastern Conference Finals was between the Nets and the Celtics.
The Celtics took the Nets to 6 games with a line-up of Kenny Anderson, Paul Pierce, Eric Williams, Antoine Walker, and Tony Battie.
The Nets had Kidd, Kittles, Jefferson, Martin and Todd MacCulloch.
So, yeah, you are right, some pretty good coaching by Byron. Todd MacCulloch? Hahaha.
I think both those teams are equally bad. I think today’s King’s might actually take either team to 6 or 7 games. Maybe win.
Over all, coaching is important when you have young players. But the coach can only do so much. The players have to execute. It makes it easier to do that when you have the best point guard in the league on your team.
I feel bad for Scott, the situation isn’t really his fault, but I don’t think he is is key to either the Nets or the Hornets success. It is easier to cut ties with him than one of the top 5 players in the league.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. A scapegoat is a scapegoat.
I feel bad for Scott, the situation isn’t really his fault….
Yep. That’s it in a nutshell. It’s not his fault at all. I say owners should let a coach finish a year with a squad that themselves and their GM’s created and ultimately screwed over. I know it’ll never happen but it’s a shame coaches are always the first one’s to blame when the source of the problem is clearly elsewhere.
We’ll agree to disagree on the him being the key to any team’s success.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some of the problems are Scott's fault
But he isn’t solely to blame. I don’t think he even minds unless Floyd makes that roster look better than anything he could figure out. Than he’ll be pissed, but he’ll have to get used to that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Yeah, Richard Jefferson and Kenyon Martin are cream puffs who regressed under Coach Scott.
LOL. I don’t think so.
We’ll agree to disagree. I say Byron Scott is a good coach and he’s getting shafted right now. No excuses – he’s getting shafted. Period.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no, but it seems that he does not get along with his point guards well
and when you have HOF point guards like Kidd and Paul, who seem to be decent guys and not trouble makers, and those guys are the leaders of your team, and they don’t like the way you coach, you should probably figure out what you are doing wrong or expect to get fired.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 12, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny. Thing is CP3 is performing his ass off for Coach Scott.
I haven’t heard a negative peep from CP3 about Coach Scott at all.
The rest of the team sucks so it’s not like they have the ability to perform better.
Bottom line is we’ll see where the Hornets go post-Scott…we’ll see.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way it has to be said: Eric Maynor > CP3 > Jason Kidd > Coach Byron Scott
Hahaha. Whatever.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 4:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm a bit surprised that this happened so soon. Good luck Byron.
This thread is full of delusional posts.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 12, 2009 5:29 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Seriously. I'm thinking you're saying Byron didn't deserve this (at least I hope so).
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A change might do that team good, they need to do something.
I’m surprised it happened this early, though. Coaches often don’t deserve it when they are replaced. I don’t follow the Hornets closely enough to have much of an opinion on that, either way.
I was mostly referring to the off topic comments. Some very out there stuff.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 12, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree on both accounts
Something had to change. And I am seriously amazed Kings fans would not be willing to trade Evans for Paul. Best case scenario, and I mean very best case scenario, Evans is as big of a factor in this league as Paul.
by hlebtasic on Nov 13, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it was Evans for Paul straight up
I think most Kings fans would take that deal. But that’s not what we’re talking about. It’s more like Evans and the Kings core for Paul. Chris Paul needs to have somebody to throw the ball to.
I think the only reservation is that Tyreke is bigger and might be able to take more punishment over a career.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 13, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you related to Byron Scott or something?
I don’t think what happened with his being fired is all his fault. It’s what happens when organization’s have little else they can do.
It’s not like they could have traded any of their players, and the Hornets were getting blown out quite often.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And it's a fact that Byron is a great coach for a couple years
and then he wears off his players. This keeps coming from too many people so there has to be some validity to it. The guy is one of those coaches that pushes the team so hard that players just stop responding after a while.
I’m not saying he deserved to be fired ( I blame the front office equally) but as Pookey said there was litte else the org could do to shake things.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Byron Scott wanted to be there any longer
He was just waiting for the inevitable ax. I don’t think he minds being able to possibly get back in good with Jerry Buss and worm his way back up to the LA job.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Now that Rambis is gone, he could be the next guy to take over the reins in LA. Unless Brian Shaw steps up of course.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Want to take an over/under on when Rambis clotheline's Reggie Theus?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I’ll take under 40 games. And it happens after Theus ‘tries’ to teach Rambis how to implement the triangle.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Good call. I think I’ll take 55 games just to be irritating.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or after Reggie appears on a local radio show
complaining that the team doesn’t have a coach you can throw the clipboard to.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 12, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL at you too
By the way, how stupid is it that Rambis just wants to use the triangle no matter what players he has?
And one more, how ironic is it that he went to the Wolves after complaining that he didn’t share the same vision as the Kings front office (after turning down the job)? I guess he’s down with Kahn drafting 2 pure point guards back to back and insisting they can be on the court at the same time.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually he's not
At the beginning of the season he said he couldn’t play Flynn & Sessions together. Kinda funny actually.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
any veteran assistants on that staff?
or is it another ‘Theus ’ staff? Funny, I listened to Peaches this afternoon and Westphal was on and he was careful but mentioned that some head coaches don’t pick the best assistants because they’re worried someone might be working behind thier backs for the top job.
He prefers veteran guys with skills/knowledge.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've also heard PW say that he's had future head coaches on his staff as well
I think PW’s point was 2 fold. You got the first point across well lttg. The 2nd is that as a head coach, if you aren’t consistently able to have assistants that other teams want for top job’s, you probably don’t have the best staff you can get. Any head coach wanting to win games would want the best staff they can get.
The other side to that is that if you’re that worried about what an assistant coach may say behind your back, you’re probably not doing a good enough job as it is.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost and stood in my living room to applaud that dope sh*t. DOPE dunk...my god.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
f*** me
I’m away from STR for three days, and now the Kings are a winning team, on their way to making the playoffs, PW’s up for coach of the year, trade negotiations for Chris I’m-Freaking-Chris-Paul-Biatch Paul are underway and Greene is a regular rotation player? Oh – and Nocionio now has fair trade value and Beno is worth his contract?
wtf is going on here, and who took my Kings away?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 12, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Awesome IW
Just awesome.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the fact that
apparently we are making the playoffs
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NO MORE DERRICK FAVORS?!?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 12, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohh no
We are still getting the guy. Somehow we’ll get a top 3 pick too. We’re well rounded. We can do anything and everything. Anything is possssiiibbbbllllleeeeeee!!!!!!!!! (Ask KG)
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LeBron is coming too right?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The deal is already in place
Why do you think he said he;s not talking about free agency no more?
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just figured LeBron has gotten enough drama out of the deal...
….and his teammates and/or the organization just simply got tired of answering the same questions over & over. Maybe I’m wrong.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah dude
He’s coming to Sac. It’s a done deal
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So if I buy my LeBron jersey tomorrow
It’s guarantee’d to be worth something?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't have one yet?
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was waiting until the all knowing 'Mo Ed would tell me
You see all bro.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So,
Are we a title contender with Lebron given our current roster.
I realize this is purely conjecture, but I have always wondered if he came to Sac if that’s all it would take.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly believe
that if you put Lebron on ANY team in the league they become a title contender. Think about the less talented roster in the NBA and add Bron, what do you get?
Funny thing is that Cleveland is really not that talented, they just have the best player in the game.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Compared to the Lakers or Boston for sure.
The lakers have like 5 allstars or potential allstars and Boston has 4.
I would be happy with one.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*akers?
What All-Stars besides Kobe and maybe Gasol?
Bynum – not proven
Odem – good player=role player
Artest (seriously?) good defender/role player
?
?
Shows you what a Superstar can make your roster look like though they have much much more talent around him than Cleveland does.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 13, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bynum will be, Odom married Cloe Kardashian so,
doesn’t that make him a star?
Artest went in 2004 and also won defensive player of the year.
So on Odom you may be right.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 13, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
I think the talent we’d put around him is better than what he has in Cleveland. Tyreke and Martin are better than Mo Williams and Anthony Parker. JT’s definitely better than Varejao. Shaq may be better than Hawes, but it wouldn’t matter that much. Plus, having Lebron makes the whole “Evans isn’t a true PG” argument null and void because Evans, Bron, and Hawes all have the ability to make plays
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by vfettke on Nov 12, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You aren't actually serious when you say you think LeBron would choose the Kings do you?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No,
He was responding to my, If Lebron came to Sac would we be a championship team.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 13, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
Okay.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 13, 2009 1:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Will they still
have $10 tickets after LeBron joins the Kings?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 13, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could you leave more often?
I kid, I kid…
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Nov 12, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+ infinity
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WORD, WASH.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To get back to the point of the thread
The team is 3-6. I think its a little early.
On the other hand, the GM has put the franchise in a $$ cage for a few years unless the trading CP3 gossip above were done. The only other tradable player is david West – and for who?
Putting the GM on the floor managing this roster, taking responsibilty, both makes sense and also sets up the possible guilty party to ultimately take the fall.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It sucks but I like when that happens
Make the GM coach the roster he put together. Let’s see what Bowen can do.
It sucks for the Hornets but the more struggling in the West the better it is for the Kings in the long run. The more teams that need to start rebuilding, the more teams we are ahead of in that process.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a point of the thread when it's New Orleans head coach getting fired?
And the Kings have an employed head coach with a contract for the next 2 seasons? There was nothing else to talk about today. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can always watch Donte, JT and Reke rap
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd rather live in the Mo
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll make sure you get your car stolen is you ever visit
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to be wanted
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever wondered how the 'Mo is the auto theft capitol of the US? Like consistently?
Don’t they have to run out of cars to steal at some point? Modesto is not Grand Theft Auto for chrissakes. (Then again, maybe it is.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
you get your car back in a week. No joke, I’ve gotten 2 cars stolen from my front door and I got them back, literally, days after. Idiots just take them, probably go around dealing drugs or something and then abandon them in random places.
The future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 12, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kids are stupid for too many wrong reason's
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that how you explain the sperm marks on the backseat?
Honest honey, it was some kids running around without condoms.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Nov 13, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me,
Sara Palin’s book just came out. I was up all night reading it.
What would she do if she were the GM for NO.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Phrase that in the form of a question please :)
There would be no illegitimate children though
oh – wait. . . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 12, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe she used her daughter's well being to illustrate her religious beliefs
Not uncommon, but embarrassing. Not to mention her daughter will lose whatever innocence she had being 17.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
discussing Sarah Palin on StR is a bridge to nowhere
by betweentheeyes on Nov 12, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nowhere is actually a pretty chill place
No open-container laws. So let’s uncap this motherf*^#&#
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 12, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm back off my soapbox
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why start now?
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying for a personality improvement
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She's as stupid as a box of hair.
A few clowns short of a circus.
A few fries short of a Happy Meal.
An experiment in Artificial Stupidity.
A few beers short of a six-pack.
A few peas short of a casserole.
Doesn’t have all her cornflakes in one box.
The wheel’s spinning, but the hamster’s dead.
One Fruit Loop shy of a full bowl.
One taco short of a combination plate.
A few feathers short of a whole duck.
All foam, no beer.
The cheese slid off her cracker.
Body by Fisher, brains by Mattel.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And my favorite...
If she had another brain, it would be lonely.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it NBN
That’s pretty funny. Especially the one about Artificial Stupidity.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lakers by 23, ugh!
They are just to damn good and have too many weapons. Our previous best player, according to many, is like their 4th option.
All Kobe’s points are in the paint. Can’t stand the guy but he is an amazing player.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a
Laker complaint thread if you want to complain there. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is your greatest post, pook...you're greatest post. Kudos fer real, dude.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 12, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I’ve written many better things. I just don’t remember what at the moment.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 12, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh..in your opinion. This is your best in my opinion. And that's all that really matters to me. :)
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
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