Searching for a backup center

by allbenji's on Nov 18, 2009 12:27 AM PST Comment 69 comments

With all of this talk about Samuel Dalembert & Emeka Okafor I decided to look around & see if I can come up with a better solution to our back-up center issue. My first thought was aquiring a young center by trading Kenny Thomas' expiring contract & taking back salary from another player that a team would like to get rid of. Unfortunately the centers I am looking at I couldn't find another salary that those teams would obviously want to get rid of that still made sense for us. Those centers are Javale McGee, Robin Lopez, & DeAndre Jordan. For example we trade K9 for Robin Lopez & Leandro Barbosa. I don't think the suns would sign off on this which is my point to this post.

Now I am not saying I would do this this but would anyone at STR be willing to trade maybe an Omri Casspi for one of those players straight across? You might have to trade one young prospect for another but would it be worth it considering our need for a young, inexpensive solution to our back up "big" problem. Keep in mind the strong play of Andres Nocioni & the emergence of our beloved "Buckets". Or if there is another way to aquire one of these "bigs" maybe there are other suggestions.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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We have a backup center now...

His name is Spencer Hawes. I really like the Okafor trade idea, with Emeka becoming the starter and Hawes coming off the bench.

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by SayWhat? on Nov 18, 2009 7:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It sure is looking that way.
It is very early, but even if Hawes doesn’t become a top 10 center, 3rd big men are very valuable.

by DesertFox on Nov 18, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Less so when you don't have a 1st or 2nd.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Nov 18, 2009 7:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think JT makes the grade

as a starter. He’s played rings around Hawes so far.

Purveyor of Bull Plop

by SayWhat? on Nov 18, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, I wasn't clear there.

I’m satisfied with JT’s play, and especially the growth of his game in general.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Nov 18, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We need a physically imposing, dominant center

to guard Dwight Howard, Greg Oden, Andrew Bynum, etc over the span of a 7 game series. I don’t think Okafor can be that guy effectively. I say we look in this draft which is riddled with bigs.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

And wait the 4-5 yr it takes bigs to develop?

I say we get one now And draft one.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I feel

that if we get someone like Okafor now, then we will be taking ourselves out of position to get high draft picks…we will be an average team, for better and for worse.

by DustyG on Nov 18, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jason Thompson wasnt drafted that high.

Even if we make the playoffs, we aren’t gonna be lower than 15. Let trust Petrie to find the right big man.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 18, 2009 2:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Petrie is great, but Frankenstein he is not

If the right talented big guy is available when and where the Kings are on the draft board. Hawes is one such project already,

by betweentheeyes on Nov 18, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

as was said earlier, there are gonna be a lot of decent big men in this draft

Draft Express currently projects #13 Patrick Patterson, a DeJuan Blair clone WITH knees;

Solomon Alabi, a 6’11", 7’5" wingspan center who averaged 3.7 blocks per 40 mins as a redshirt freshman; #15 Larry Sanders, who is 6’9" with a 7’6" wingspan and is described as an “incredible presence at times, changing absolutely everything around the basket just by putting his arms in the air.”
Jan Vesely, 19 year old Czech national getting minutes for Partizan Belgrade, one of the best teams in Europe, is 6"11 240lbs
Craig Brackins almost averaged 20 and 10 as a sophomore, scouted as outworking opponents on defensive glass, having a quick turnaround jumper and soft baby hook
Jerome Jordan legit 7 feet 7’6" wingspan has potential but still a little rough especially offensively averaged 10 points 9 boards 3 blocks in 24 minutes
DeMarcus Cousins 6’10" 19 year old weighs 270lbs but despite needing to work on his conditioning remains very agile and “shows a great feel for the game, and assisted cutting guards multiple times in the game from the high post.”
Andrew Ogilvy 7 footer that actually looks to score in the post with his back to the basket, averaged 13, 9, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks in only 19 minutes a game

There are a lot of good young bigs that will be available in the later half of the first round and would benefit the Kings. I don’t think the team should tank, wait and see on trades that bring in talent, or give up on this season at all. We need to do all we can to get better, all the time, and worry about the draft in June.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 18, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think you're right on point with this.

Rather than trade for a guy like Okafor and become an average team in the short-term (at best), I’d like to see the Kings continue the youth movement until a few more pieces are acquired.

by cabz on Nov 18, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

actually my point is that we should get Okafor and try to make the playoffs

and most of those players will be available if we are around .500 or make the playoffs

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 18, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Good idea

I trust GP will get it done in the draft but there is a whole season ahead. I like the idea of getting someone that can get it done in the paint next to JK now.

While I know that the youth movement is in full effect there need to be butts in the seats now. I dont understand why people try to argue that having too many big men can be a bad thing?

by Hilton on Nov 18, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Okafor is only 27, and I think he can still improve

remember, he wasted time on bad teams in Charlotte, and only last season had some help and good coaching w/ Larry Brown.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 18, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

just a little more agressive offensively – he’s a clear All-Star. Does he have it in him mentally? No idea.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, left out Aldrich

Hensen, Monroe, Montiejunas and others. This draft is loaded with PFs and Cs.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Aldrich, although he may not have the most upside

Is a guy who would be an NBA rotation guy right out of training cap.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

November 2009

or is my calendar broken?

by betweentheeyes on Nov 18, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No, but thats what this thread is about - isn't it?

By my count fully 15 of the top 30 picks are legit PF or C prospects. There are others listed as PF but anyone under 6’9 I didn’t count.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I just don't see any big men available

around the league besides SD, Okafor and maybe one of the Utah kids.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, there's Curry in NY of course!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think NY has acquiesced defeat

It is simply ludicrous to consider that anyone would be willing to take on Curry’s contract. The best the Knicks can do there to get immediate Cap relief is that they trade Curry’s contract for a longer one of less value (like Curry for Beno – as an example, not a suggestion). And to do that, they’d have to give up another asset.
If I’m Walsh, I’m not even bothering anymore to try and trade Curry. I’m focusing on hoping and praying I can catch a big fish during the 2010 summer based solely on NY magnetism. Whoever he is, I just need a bona fide star. If I can’t get a star, I’m saying fk it and saving that cap space for the summer of 2011 – when I’ll have even more. At that point though, I’m rubbing Buddha’s belly daily to make sure the fans don’t hang me and my owner doesn’t fire me. The entire season before 2011, I’m talking to as many of the free agents as possible – “Hey, who do you want to team up with? I can make it happen.” Or, I pursue as many fire sales as possible while maintaining my cap space to allow a max contract. With all that cap space, I’ll be able to just take an Emeka Okafor and another mid-level talent signed during the summer of 2010. Basically try to fleece some buyers remorse, and maybe pick up a pick along the way for my troubles. Come to Uncle Walsh, other GMs, I can cure what ails you. Oh… Rudy Gay for 5 years 60 million killing you? Alright, I’ll take him off your hands, but you have to give me Mike Conley. What’s that Atlanta? Josh Smith’s torn ACL means you can’t afford to keep Al Horford? Well Uncle Walsh is here to save you. But we gotta swap first rounders.
Come the summer of 11, I’m in prime position to steal the best player available, I have another legit all-star-level talent on the roster, and I have several exceptional pieces. Add to that another crafty mid-level signing, the Knicks are suddenly contenders. BOOM! I get accolades, everyone in New York loves me, I don’t have to pay for drinks anymore, I win Executive of the Year, Lebron James calls me up one day saying he doesn’t know what he was thinking in 2010 and is demanding his GM trade him to me, David Stern calls me up to become his new top second guy to eventually take over his position, the Queen knights me, my kids get into Ivy League schools, my wife gets an even bigger boob job, and I quit the GM game as the greatest ever.
All that hinges on Eddy Curry. Sucks, doesn’t it?

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by iashwash on Nov 19, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

That's a great story

Can I sell the rights? Okay, seriously.

I think the Knicks very well could acquire Okafor from New Orleans for Eddy Curry (or at worst Jared Jeffries).

New Orleans is in bad financial trouble, and if they can’t dump Okafor for reasonable value this year and get the luxury tax, they might have to settle for a team like New York saying give us Okafor and we’ll shave off the tax bill for you this season.

If there is one team that can afford to acquire Okafor, it’s New York.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Or let's say you're New York

And you know you can’t use Eddy Curry to get you much until next off-season. How about using Jared Jeffries and Jordan HIll as bait to the Hornets for Okafor this season?

That would get the Hornets under luxury tax (maybe) for next season.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a good idea

Just shows that the Hornets don’t necessarily have to just give Okafor away.

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by iashwash on Nov 20, 2009 6:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i was actually only focusing on players Draft Express has projected in the bottom part of the draft

with my point being we shouldn’t worry about whether or not we make the playoffs as far as the position we will be in for the draft

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 18, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, no offense

I was pointing out that almost no matter where we pick we’ll have an opprtunity to draft size. As for the talent? Too soon.
But i see what you were getting at now – it wasn’t clear at the time.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 18, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We can

always appeal to many exceptions to the ‘better players are drafted higher’ rule, but I feel much more comfortable banking on the rule.

Also, I would prefer a big man quite a bit better than JT from a high draft pick, and I’m willing to wait for it. Petrie is good; but he’s not good enough to fool other GMs into passing on superlative talent. I want another top 5 pick, preferably a big. Then we can fill in with vets. I would like to follow the portland and zombie-sonics model for rebuilding.

I think that moving on Okafor would be aborting the rebuild too soon and would result in a mediocre team—not a good one.

by DustyG on Nov 19, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Its a good point and a struggle for me

But good big men, and Okafor is one, – there just aren’t many. I’d love a top 5 pick but I think no matter what its unlikely to happen now unless we win the 1, 2 or 3 spot by luck.

NY, NJ, Minnie, and probably Charlotte, GS, Memphis and maybe the Clips will all finish worse than us.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 19, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That was always true lttg (about getting a top 3 spot)

A lot of it has to do with luck.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure, my point was that I don't think we'll have the most PP balls

anyway. Whats the statistical diff between 7 and 11 in getting a top 3? Not much I believe. We’ll need luck as always. Last years lottery should’ve proven that to folks here.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not much (as far as the difference between 7 & 11)

And agreed about last year’s lottery should be proof of that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I am not worried about covering Andrew Bynum

Pau Gasol yes.

by mayfieldcol on Nov 18, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Demarcus Cousins is nice, and i think Draft Express has him going in the second round!

Natural Go Getta!

by slamson on Nov 18, 2009 5:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

from what I have read, he has natural ability, is projected in the late 1st round

he has great passing and shooting ability for his size, but does not like to bang inside even though he can, and lacks motivation on defense, has poor conditioning, not the best attitude in the world.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 18, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds

relatively familiar…remember when this guy came over?

Vanquish the Foe, a BYU Cougars blog at SB Nation

by sroufe on Nov 19, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ha man that would be awesome

Let’s see what happens with Cousins this year. Kentucky is stacked like the Fab Five. Webber still stood out as the best player on that Michigan team. I am not sure Cousins will show as much potential as Webber did.

Webber really was a player to get excited about. Pretty much, if you were to build a power forward from scratch, you would want him to look like C-Webb, have the skill set and potential he showed when he led that Michigan team. Chris Webber really was one of the greatest college players ever.

You know, except for that one play.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 19, 2009 11:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

.... and other than that, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

You know, except for that one play.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 20, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hey, they wouldn't have even been in that position, in the game, in the season, without Webber

and he was just a kid, in the most pressure filled moment in his life up until that time. and nobody got killed.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Nov 21, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

true dat - the fine line between champ and chump

nothing more, nothing less

by betweentheeyes on Nov 21, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Now you are talking...

….lets focus on a big man impact player of the Tyreke variety in the next draft, and not lousy trade offers, and someone else’s roster and salary cap headache.

I was watching Samuel Dalembert closely tonight. How to be best describe him? Thanksgiving is next week. At the market they have these free range, organically fed turkeys. Well, Sammy D. is not real free ranging, and doesn’t look organically fed. He’s just a turkey.

Last night during one of the game threads I described Emeka Okafur, who I also watched last two games. I repeat, and to put delicately a second time, he sucks donkey balls.

I wish I could report these guys were worth the gamble, but we are asking for a big trouble on both counts. Just say no, Geoff.

I understand pining hopes on the IDEA of a shot-blocking defensive center. Unfortunately, we are not talking about Alonzo Mourning. Sadly, we are talking about a turkey and a donkey ball sucker.

by bench_blob on Nov 18, 2009 6:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, lets focus on the mega superstar Center of the next draft

…because i’m 9000% sure the Kings will have the #1 pick!!!!!!11

by CloudyEyes on Nov 18, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

Natural Go Getta!

by slamson on Nov 18, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Marcin Gortat

I see him as a viable option. Admittedly I haven’t watched him too much, but from what I have heard he has played well in the minutes he has gotten and he was a commodity in the off-season. For some reason the Magic resigned him to a long term MLE to backup Dwight Howard for the next five years. Being 20 million over the cap this year and 30 million next year can’t sit well with the Magic owners, and I would think if they could get K9 for Gortat and shave off his contract for the next 4 years (not including this year) they would jump at it.
So Gortat is 25 years old with a contract half the size of Okafor’s. Is he a bad option as a 3rd big?

by Travis Mays Hayes on Nov 19, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

TMH

The Kings can’t really acquire Gortat because he’s BYC and the Kings don’t have cap room to make up the difference. Also, Gortat can turn down any trade to Sacramento until late July.

So while your argument may be true about Gortat the player, the reality is that the Magic won’t give him up easily.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

gotcha

thanks for clearing that up.

by Travis Mays Hayes on Nov 19, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Especially because they're in win-now mode for some reason.

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by Aykis16 on Nov 19, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah can't imagine why the Magic think they're a contender or anything

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Just clarifying what Pookey said

The Magic sat on deciding to Match Gortat’s offer for five days. This after they signed Bass and traded for Vince. For one reason or another – whether it was to trade him later or they really feel he is the best backup for Dwight – Gortat is on the Magic’s roster because they feel he has value, and they specifically feel he has value even with that contract. So there will be no K-9 for Gortat straight up deals this year, and I’d put alot of money on that.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Nov 19, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't work under the CBA anyway IW

K9 makes too much money even if there wasn’t any BYC restriction on Gortat.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha

Ok, but the overall point I was trying to make was that there will be no Gortat-for-Expirings deals, regardless of the cap laws.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Nov 19, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Probably not

A 1st round pick would have to be included at a minimum for Orlando to give him away right now.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It appears that the formula

the Kings are looking at is a vet center in his mid to late 20’s on a somewhat overpaid contract(meaning a team that’s looking for financial relief)….WELLL…why not target a vet center in their mid-late 20’s from a team that’s ALWAYS looking for financial relief. I’m talking about the CLIPPERS.

Chris Kaman has a smaller contract than Dalembert, but is a MUCH better player than Dalembert. The Clippers would be EXTREMELY under the cap to pursue a free agent, they’re in LA and have Blake Griffin/Eric Gordon to build forward with. Anyone of Bosh, Wade or LeBron could reasonably consider signing there IMO. Player the anti-Kobe role in the same town.

Kings deal Thomas for Kaman(straight up) which has our roster looking like:

C: Chris Kaman, Spencer Hawes
PF: Jason Thompson, Jon Brockman, Sean May
SF: Andres Nocioni, Omri Casspi, Donte Greene
SG: Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Ime Udoka
PG: Tyreke Evans, Beno Udrih, Sergio Rodriguez

by Smills91 on Nov 20, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I meant...

..Kaman has a smaller contract than Okafor.

by Smills91 on Nov 20, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I've always liked Kaman's game

I’ve mentioned him several times in the past when discussing possible centers for the Kings. He plays with his back to the basket, rebounds well and he cut his hair…

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by SayWhat? on Nov 21, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So why would the Clippers give him up?

And what do the Kings have to trade to get Kaman?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 21, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Here we go

3 way trade including Clips, Hornets and Kings

Kings get: Kaman and CP3—(Yes please)

Hornets get : Camby, K9 and S Rodriguez (Big cap relief and chance at 2010 Free agents(This puts them sluffing 19.3 million at end of year)

Clippers get: Okafor, Nocioni and Garcia (Was thinking beno but the dont need another PG)

You wanna go really out there here’s my plan

Kings get: Kaman and CP3—(Yes please), T griffin and B Griffin

Hornets get : Camby, K9 and S Rodriguez (Big cap relief and chance at 2010 Free agents(This puts them sluffing 19.3 million at end of year)

Clippers get: Okafor, Nocioni and Garcia and Hawes and our next year 1st rounder

Phoenix gets: Brockman

Can you imagine the kings with a lineup like this

PG: CP3 / Beno
SG: Tyreke / Omri
G: KMart / Udoka
PF: JT / Donte
C: Kaman/B Griffin

Scrap Minutes for now: T Griffin and Sean May
(Get T griffin some time on the court with Little Brother)

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Nov 22, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

CP3 ain't leaving New Orleans

Especially for what New Orleans is also giving up in the deal.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 22, 2009 1:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We could all wish cant we

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Nov 22, 2009 2:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wish all you like

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 22, 2009 2:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So what you think of this one

Clips, Hornets and Kings

Kings get: Kaman & Blake Griffin

Hornets get : Camby, K9 and S Rodriguez (Big cap relief and chance at 2010 Free agents(This puts them sluffing 19.3 million at end of year)

Clippers get: Okafor, Garcia and Peja (Was thinking beno but the dont need another PG)

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Nov 22, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If you were running the Clips,

would you really deal Blake Griffin, Chris Kaman and Marcus Camby for Okafor, Garcia and Peja? Really?

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by section214 on Nov 22, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Would this be viable?

Kings get: Kaman
Hornets get : K9 and S Rodriguez
Clippers get: Okafor

Only reason i suggested Camby and Kaman is they get Okafor With skinner as the back up(Sets them up for next couple years) I forgot to throw the Clips the first/second for next year in place for them taking Garcia and giving us B Griffin, and they look like they needed some scoring in there which i think Peja could be giving them.

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by Widowwolf on Nov 22, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well,

this is basically the Sac/NO deal with the Clips thrown in. So the question becomes, would the Clips deal Kaman for Okafor? And I don’t know why they would take on the extra two years of contract.

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by section214 on Nov 22, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Better center, losing Camby possibly next year and only having 6 guys under contract after this year this could give them a good base to work around having B Davis, Gordon, Thornton, B Griffin and Okafor to work around for years to come. (Only other guy they have is D Jordon which will be good for him to backup/learn under Okafor)

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by Widowwolf on Nov 22, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps

But including his option year, Okafor’s contract is about twice the size of Kaman’s. I don’t see the Clips taking on that kind of debt load for what may or may not be a slight upgrade at center. Then again, they are the Clips.

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by section214 on Nov 22, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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by pookeyguru on Nov 22, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs