Forward Andres Nocioni (right hip pointer) was a limited participant in Wednesday's practice. Nocioni sat out Tuesday's game and was replaced by Donté Greene in the starting lineup.
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Who would guard Dirk on Friday?
Position wise JT should but I think that may be a bad matchup. I wouldn’t mind seeing Donte try to bother Dirk with his lenght and athleticism. He did a good job against the Bulls on D
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I agree
That’s a great matchup for Donte to show he’s turned a corner. Just would not rather him shoot 8 3’s again.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
For sure
On that note, and this hasn’t been discussed much but, how awsome you think Coachie and Westphal felt when in the 4th Donte passed up the open 3 took a step inside the line and buried the jumper?
To me that was really cool.
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Very awesome
Donte is proof that time with young players is what usually is needed.
I know there are people who will say look at the Bucks with all their mistakes, but that’s a different situation and team. Sometimes having a young team that you’re willing to be patient with and develop is important.
Donte Greene has a lot to learn, and I don’t really think that’s in question.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I'm sure Bucks fans forgive most of the past 5 years mistakes because . . .
of a certain player by the name of Jennings. The Bucks gm looks like a genius now.
Ba-da
John Hammond isn't a genius
No GM is. Some moves pan out; some don’t. After 9 games it looks good for Jennings. I prefer to wait a couple of years before I really evaluate the draft.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Same.
Hammond isn’t a genius. But he is a decent GM. He’s got a nice young core in Milwaukee now, and honestly, Joe Alexander isn’t as much of a mistake as he could have been since Milwaukee got Mbah a Moute out of it (although they could have had Jason Thompson and Mbah a Moute).
Milwaukee is probably my favorite team not named the Kings, and that’s even before Jennings. I just like some of their impact guys like Ilyasova and Mbah a Moute. Fan of Bogut as well.
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Is Joe Alexander a certified bust already?
I liked him, in the limited minutes I saw him play last season.
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Milwaukee
didn’t even pick up his option.
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highest pick with a rookie option declined: BUST
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even anthony randolph or speights
Jennings-Redd-Moute-Randolph/SPeights-Bogut is a very dangerous core when healthy.
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Damn, I must have missed something.
Randolph and Speights are on the Bucks?
There can only be one Noce!
No he's talking about who they could've picked
Instead of Alexander.
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That would be almost parallel to Atlanta
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I didn't need to have 2 years to evaluate Lebron, and I don't need two years to make a pretty good guess
that Jennings may end up being a pretty decent ball player . I am not saying Jennings is the 2nd coming of Lebron, I’m just making an educated guess that Hammond and the Bucks fans won’t regret that pick 5 years from now. For most players sure it takes couple of years to evaluate, but for some you don’t need that much time.
Ba-da
It's not that simple Ba-Da
2003 had a lot of talent in the draft, and obviously LeBron (1st) was a great portion of that. But, you also had Darko Milicic, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, and Dwyane Wade picked in the top 5.
Additionally you had Chris Kaman, Kirk Hinrich and TJ Ford go 6, 7 & 8.
MIckeal Pietrus (11), Luke Ridnour (13), David West all went between 11-20. (West went 18th.)
You also had Dahntay Jones (20th), Boris Diaw (21st), Travis Outlaw (23), Kendrick Perkins (27), Leandro Barbosa (28) and Josh Howard (29) go in the 1st round.
In the 2nd round, you also had Jason Kapono, Luke Walton, Steve Blake, Zaza Pachulia, Keith Bogans, Matt Bonner, Mo Williams (Cleveland), and James Jones (Miami) go as well.
That’s a lot of talent. How many of those players were considered quality players after the first year? Players develop at different rates, and do different things. That’s the bottom line.
Now you might be right about Brandon Jennings being a player who will succeed, but after 9 games I’m not willing to throw this kid into All-Star status quite yet. And, I’m all for seeing Jennings succeed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Not knowing if someone picked behind Jennings (11-- undrafted) will turn out even better
is a valid point. I kind of doubt there will be a player picked behind Jennings that will turn out better, but you never know.
I didn’t mean to imply that Hammond was a genius, only that 1 great pick can make a gm LOOK very good. Jennings was a lucky guess for Hammond in all likelihood. I didn’t see anything from his play in Italy that would suggest his performance thus far in the NBA. Certainly not this early in his career.
It’s still amazing how many solid—outstanding players came out of the 2003 draft.
Ba-da
I agree with your 2nd paragraph
There was no way Hammond could expect this. But, as I said, I don’t think Jennings rookie years is finished. He does all this year that means a whole lot of people slept on Jennings. (I liked him, but always felt it would take awhile for him to come around. Whoops.)
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Jennings....
His talent is undeniable but it’s really hard to hang your hat on a d-bag personality. Hopefully he converts these stats into W’s for his team.
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He's not a douchebag
He doesn’t get himself into trouble either. The problem is that a lot of people remember A) his Rubio comments during the workout process and B) the bad entrance to shake David Stern’s hand during draft day.
Personally, I think most people know less about B-Money than they think they do.
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He WAS a d-bag
but he’s done quite a bit of work on it. Check this out for some insight
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Yea, I read that one too
I read he was getting help long time ago, after the draft thing.
I don’t think the kid is a douchebag I just think he’s a punk. Whether he changes or not that’s up to him. I don’t think I’m ever going to like him to be honest. May not be fair, but he just reminds me of the type of players i would never root for. Again, I could be wrong, but is my right to not like the dude.
Of course, this has no nothing to do wth his game. Kid’s talented for sure. I just hate the type of person he seems to be.
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I thought he used to be a punk
but he’s changed quite a bit. From his stint in Europe to working with PR folks since coming to the NBA. His attitude seems way better.
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I stand by what I said about the Rubio comments
And the NBA draft thing. That’s what people remember most. Since, he’s worked hard on his game. Actually, he pretty much has always done that.
But, it’s fine that people see him as a d-bag. If Jennings explodes while playing for the Bucks, there are going to be a lot of people who will blame Geoff Petrie for not taking him.
I will not always be one of those people even though I always believed Jennings could do this.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
"True" PG
He doesn’t seem to be a “true” or “natural” point guard that he was advertised to be. He is definitely a score-first guy. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Just an observation.
Guy's flirting with triple-doubles almost every game
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Unfair
Many kings fans (I am myself a kings fan) I think are threatened by the kid because until Blake Griffin is able to play regularly for the season B-Jennings is Tyreke Evans’ biggest threat for the ROY award… and rightfully so. I personally hope he doesn’t keep it up because I think Tyreke can be the next big thing in the league. However, Jennings is not anywhere close to heading in the same direction Isiah Rider did so until he does something to royally make himself look bad now that the season has started don’t write this kid off. He is the real deal (he did score 55 points in one game in less than 10 starts). And for those of you who do hate on him and continue to do so, I have a strong feeling you’ll be doing so for a long time to come. In the meantime, Tyreke was still undoubtedly the right draft choice for Sac-Town.
he’s a good player, but in regards to the decision the Bucks have made the past few years Hammond definitely doesn’t look like a genius, and I dont see 1 pick changing all that
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by joeytothelimit on Nov 19, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Hammond has only been the GM since 2008
I’m not sure every move you’re thinking of is Hammond’s fault.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
No GM genius?
I think it would be hard for any real kings fan to claim with confidence that there is no such thing as a genius GM after the success Geoff Petrie started for the Kings in 1998 when putting together the team that started the most successful string of seasons we could ever ask for from our team. Especially with the records the Kings tended to have during the Sacramento era (and for many seasons before arriving in the 916) before Petrie was able to put together such a successful roster. And also one that was more than deserving of a championship in 2002 I might add.
Trading for Chris Webber didn't take genius
It took luck that it happened in the first place. But is Geoff Petrie a genius? Maybe. But not because of the Webber deal.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Unless he makes all 8 3's right?
Hope he’s got a hot hand and gets good shots.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
good point.
I hope he feels it and hits a bunch of three’s. but if he misses two or three consecutive ones, I hope he remembers to take it to the rim.
There can only be one Noce!
Dirk would
have JT in foul trouble in very short order. Donte or Omri are the most viable options.
Memory lane segament: Back in the day, (pre-back inury) Peja did a pretty decent job guarding Dirk.
Good call on Omri too
I’m sure he’ll be up for tha challenge
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"Let me guard him, I can do it!"
That was one of the most awesome quotes I’ve heard in a long time.
In reality, whoever we put on Dirk is likely to get torched. He’s a 7 footer that plays like he is 6"4’, there isn’t much that you can do against that. So even if he lights Donte and Omri (or Thompson) up, we can’t really be too harsh on them. We just have to win all the other match ups and “limit” Dirk to 30 (like we did with Durant), and that can get us a win (like it did against Durant).
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by tomroadrunner on Nov 19, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Good call. Let him get his 30-40pts.
Just make him miss 20 of the 30 shots he needs to get those points.
There can only be one Noce!
Right
Just make him work for his shots and make him work on defense. We have youth on our side in that matchup.
Omri would be psyched to guard Dirk.
I remember Tyrus Thomas doing a really good job on Dirk when he was a rookie. Dirk seems bothered by active and athletic defenders.
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Not to sound insensitive but
what’s the worst that could happen by pitting a nice Jewish boy against a German?
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by elfboy_ on Nov 20, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I am a little frightened now.
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I don't think it matters who guards Dirk tomorrow
I think he’s going to have a monster game. He is on a roll at the moment, just torched TD and the Spurs for 41, I don’t think we really have anyone capable of stopping/slowing him. What we do have to do is focus on everyone else, like in the OKC game. If we let Dirk get his (and at least try our best to guard him) and hopefully keep everyone else (Shawn Marion, Jason Terry, Roddy Beaubois) within reasonable limits, we might have a chance. I still see this as being a loss though.
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Very nice observation.
Ahem…
;-P
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by tomroadrunner on Nov 19, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
/Facepalm
Maybe I should read the accompanying thread before responding to the question next time eh?
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I just thought it was awesome that the comments were so similar,
Dirk going off, the word “torch”, mentioning the example of the OKC game, and doing well against everyone else…
Great minds think alike, I guess.
I’m assuming that putrid, underused minds think alike as well, because I think that is the case here…
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by tomroadrunner on Nov 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
In any case
It’s a great opportunity for the young Kings to make a statement. Beating Dallas would be a big step forward.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 19, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Just show Donte and Omri footage of the '07 Warriors series and what Stephen Jackson did to Dirk
Although, I think Dirk’s much better now and has developed a bit of a killer instinct.
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Wouldn't Noc dying be the worst news?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Um... Zing?
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by tomroadrunner on Nov 19, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Who doesn't appreciate Noc?
I appreciate him for what he does.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I don't think that Noc is not appreciated
I think that it has just been determined that he does not time out with the long term rebuilding plan here. In fact, if one were a Noc fan, wouldn’t one want to see him get traded to a contender?
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But is this about my POV here 214?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Nope
I was just adding on to your comment (this being one of the rare times where there is actually room to add on to your comment – booyah!).
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Ha
Yeah right.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Nocioni
continues to play himself more and more into our future plans. But it is a business, and he’s really only a King because we had to bury some bad business decisions, so if a good business proposition turns up, we may have to cut him loose.
We’re lucky we got him, and his grit is a good influence on our young players and he’s been a definite contributor to our winning ways.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 19, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Easy, my man, there's two of us here.
We got our own Noce support group in place.
There can only be one Noce!
Any word on Casspi's ankle?
I wanna see how D’GOC plays as a full being. It would be extremely nice if the Kings would find these two as completing the SF needs of the Kings (no offense to NOC, but he’s here till we find the next SF and that player develops – glad he’s on board, but he’s the stepping stone). They’re two very different players, and give Coach Westphal a plethora of options.
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You could put Donté and Omri in the frontcourt
Against some smaller teams. Have JT play Center, DG at the 4, and Omri at the 3. The cool thing with Donté is that he can play 3 positions, and Omri can too (although I see Omri as more of a 2/3 and Donté as a 3/4). The Kings have a lot of versatility with their young guys at the moment.
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I love the versatility
I see Donté as more the 2/3 who can defend the big 4s, just based on his style. I think Casspi is strictly a three with the agility to guard slower 2s and the determination/hustle to guard smaller 4s, but a proto-typical three in the Tayshaun prince mold. And I give those characterizations solely on their on-court swagger.
That’s why right after the draft I loved JT as he was touted to be – a 4 with 3 handles and passing ability who would grow into legit 5 size.
Furthermore, I view Hawes – our definitive 5 – as more of a four. Honestly. I can expound on this if you’re interested, but I think you can easily see where I’m coming from with that statement.
Add to that Rekes versatility – a 1 that could play 2 who matches very well against small 3s – and I have to admit, Petrie has built himself a shockingly atypical team. Even Francisco Garcia is a possible 3-postion-player (depending on the system, I agree with JJ that he could play the 1).
Martin is the only player on this roster you can assuredly say “he is a 2” and no one would question you (well, outside of Sergio Rodriguez and Kenny Thomas).
This type of team becomes even more dangerous when you consider that Westphal is willing to play any lineup he deems fit – positionality be damned. It should certainly make for some continued interesting basketball this season.
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No way Hawes can ever be a 4
PF’s are scorers who can rebound. To score they need to be able to hit the short to midrange jumper, & create off the dribble and drive to the rim.
If Hawes ever gets his shot back, he’ll be able to rebound and hit the jumper. But, there is no way he can create his own dribble and dive to the basket. And, without that ability, defenders will just get right into his body and take the jumper away, too. Making him a 7 footer, who can’t shot, can’t use his inside game, & is too slow and far away from the basket to be a good rebounder.
Spencer can probably defend 4’s with his length and defensive technic. But, he isn’t a good offensive rebounder, because he plays away from the basket too much on offense, and he’s not quick enough to react to the ball once it goes up.
He’s a 21 yr old 7 footer with average athleticism, who’s still growing into his body. And, as he gets heavier, he’s only going to get less mobile. For 3 year the coaching staff has made him a high post distributor. Where he isn’t quick enough or a good enough ball handler to drive into the paint and score. So, he’s shooting long 2’s and 3’s. On a rare occasion someone will set him up for a dunk, or God forbid, get him the ball in the paint where he can us his low post skills. Skill he has, but seldom has the opportunity to perfect.
Until the coaching staff decides to run plays that get him the ball in low where he has his best chance to score, Spencer will continue to be neither a Center or PF. But, simple a Point / Center.
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by HighTops on Nov 19, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the major problem with Spencer this season is that he hasn't been used properly
he can’t make his own shot. His teammates need to get him the ball, and the coaches need to help remind them when and where to do so.
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He's also been somewhat of an afterthought on the offensive end imo
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by aKingisBored on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
No so,
PW has made a choice to use JT in the post instead of Spence. So, it’s not a afterthought. It’s planned.
Maybe, JT showed some improvement with his low post moves during practice. And, since PW was planning to platoon them at center early on in the season, JT got more oppostunities as the starter.
But, we haven’t had a center with a good low post game since Miller became our starter. And, right now, Sergio is probably the only PG with the passing skills to feed the bigs down low where they can be effective. Isn’t that one of the main reasons most people were excited about drafting Rubio. How he could set up our bigs for easy baskets down low.
PW is making the decision to go to JT, and Spencer is making the decision easy for PW. Spencer needs to demand the ball down low from the guards, and take it strong to the basket. If I were him and I was working hard to estabilsh position, and the guards weren’t getting me the ball, I’d be screeming at them all the way back up the court after every change of possession. If he gets blocked so be it. He won’t be worse off then he is now.
Spencer needs the ball 12-15 times a game down low. And, I don’t care if he misses all of them. At least at the end of the season, we’ll know what we have. JT in the meantime needs to work on his left hand and low post moves in practice until they are more finished. He can still go to them during games, but it shouldn’t be as our one on one go to guy.
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Its probably not going to be pretty in Dallas if Noce sits
But thats the way it is. We don’t have enough good bodies right now without him.
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It probably wouldn't be pretty with him either.
The good part is that they’re starting Ross, Gooden & Dirk in the front line. The bad part is they’re starting Dirk.
On the other hand, our guards could have an advantage over Kidd & Beaubois.
Donte might be a better option to guard Dirk, rather than Noc. And, JT should have a better game against Gooden. I can see PW going back to the one big lineups, With Omri & Donte splitting time on Dirk and Udoka covering t Ross.
I think Dallas is too experienced and Dirk is a killer in crunch time, but we might be able to stay close.
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just because he sits out a practice
Doesn’t mean he won’t play.
Maybe he is just resting.
And I agree, watch that Warriors team, make them copy Action Jackson’s defense.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 19, 2009 5:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
if Noce plays then i would like to see all 3
Andres, Greene, Casspi, on the floor, taking turns punching Dirk in the ribs.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 19, 2009 5:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You want that then just put Brockman on Nowitzki to start the game
“Oops did my elbow rupture your spleen Mr. Nowitzki?”
“I’m sorry if your ribs are brittle”
“That’s your hand? I thought it was a pancake.”
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by Aykis16 on Nov 19, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
that sounds like a plan to me
Seriously though, I think we play Evans, Casspi, Greene, and if he is healthy Nocioni with JT and we can create some mismatches. Kidd, Barea, Terry, and Beaubois would all be at a disadvantage one way or another in the backcourt. Noce, Greene, and Casspi, and even Evans could all switch onto Nowitzki in the pick and roll. Thompson can out-hustle any big they have. If our young guys step up, force some turnovers, control the boards, I think we can keep it a close game.
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Don't forget Gooden.
Since Dampier’s been out, Gooden’s been a beast. Not just his scoring, but his offensive rebounding. JT will have problems keeping both Gooden & Dirk off the glass, Hawes needs a good defensive rebounding game — or whomever we can find to slot in next to JT.
Tyreke needs to be on Kidd all the time, force the old man to play D and to work when bringing the ball up. If we can unsettle Kidd, convert some turnovers for fast breaks, we’ll have a shot for an upset. It all depends on whether or not we find a way to force and score easy buckets.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
I have a feeling Kidd won't be guarding Evans...
On D the Mavs seem to use Kidd as a sort-of Small Forward.
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by tomroadrunner on Nov 19, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Although I would love to see Tyreke go for 55 points with Kidd guarding him.
Kidd is sort of a matador now
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by tomroadrunner on Nov 19, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
Mavs will most likely put Marion on Evans.
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Isn't Marion still out?
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 19, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Marion is out
Tyreke is going to kill Ross.
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Oh wow
Didn’t realize that. I knew Howard was out, but didn’t know about Marion. I don’t know who Dallas will use on ‘Reke then. Beaubois is too small, Kidd is big enough, but is too slow, Ross I’ve barely heard of so he probably won’t do much, Barea is too small, Terry is too small.
This could be a huge game for Reke. Especially with no Dampier on the inside for the Mavs. He’ll be met by the greatest King of all time though, Drew Gooden.
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Ross
Was a defensive specialist for the Clipps, but got buried deep in Memphis’ bench (bad teams don’t need defensive specialists). He’s a versatile and able defender – don’t discount his impact so quickly. He will, however, be guarded by Beno. Dude’s got no offensive skills.
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i do like the prospects of being able to drive deep on Dallas
Gooden is tough and a good rebounder, but he isn’t that imposing of a force inside. I would like to see Greene, Evans, Beno, Sergio get down there and challenge them.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 19, 2009 10:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
When do they retire his jersey?
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Ross is an excellent defender
I don’t think Evans will kill him, but I think they will have to choose who to guard. If they put Ross on Evans Westphal could counter with Sergio, who is super quick.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 19, 2009 10:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ross is only averaging about 15 minutes a game
He started against the Spurs, but only played 19 minutes.
Barea, Kidd and Terry played most of the minutes at guard. Beaubois played 16 minutes.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 20, 2009 6:38 AM PST up reply actions
I kinda think of Jason as a bigger, better version of Gooden
I think that matchup is a wash, if it isn’t in our favor.
Brock, Kenny, and Hawes are all good on the defensive boards, if it seems that Gooden is outhustling Jason the Hustler Thompson, as Noah did last game. But Noah had a size advantage, and Gooden doesn’t.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 19, 2009 10:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
And, maybe Donte can say something about Dirks mother in German
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Dirk probably would spend the next few minutes confused as to where the insults were coming from
“Did that black kid just speak deutsche to me?”
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