Everyone relax about the arena situation:
The mayor has appointed a task force. Eliot Ness is already advising KJ to try doing things "the Chicago way."
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He pulls a knife, you pull a gun...
…he puts one of yours in the hospital, you put one of his in the morgue?
by #12Pick...who? on Nov 19, 2009 3:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Whatever gets it done, man.
Godspeed, K.J.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 19, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty amazing list of peeps here.
I like KJ. He is pro-active (insert acne joke here) and I do believe that this is why he wanted to be mayor. Getting something done like this is a legacy for a mayor. My dad was a union construction worker in the Sacramento area for 35+ years and there is nothing more prideful for he or myself than driving through downtown and seeing the work that he did on core buildings of Sacramento. My grandfather built the original KNCO booth (Grass Valley’s local radio station) at the Nevada County fairgrounds in the the late 70’s. He passed away in 1980 but his legacy lives on through a small wooden structure that is the main meeting hub of a community during its blue ribbon event.
If Kevin Johnson, a lifetime Sacramentan, can accomplish the impossible and get the Kings an arena and guarantee them staying here long term he has created something that he and his family can be proud of for generations. Kudos to KJ for being a basketball fan in a basketball town and fighting the good fight against imbecile bureaucratic bastards.
No law when it comes to me.
I let you type critics write and I just keep it hood.
That will never change.
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by jjham15 on Nov 19, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Seriously.
KJ would be a hero to most Kings fans if he gets this done.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
And be reviled in the city that voted him Mayor
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Naw, most of us actual city-dwellers appreciate KJ's ambition
And for most of them that don’t like him, it seems to be more of a personal thing or a social-issue thing. It’s the folks in the ‘burbs that have the biggest beef with him (not all of them, of course; I’m sure most of the Sacto StR members don’t live in the city. Not that all of us here necessarily support the Mayor), and those folks didn’t get to vote against him before and won’t get to vote against him in the future.
I know that’s probably not news to you, Pookey, I just think it’s interesting to investigate how Sacto’s sprawl contributes to a lot of our issues with development and revitalization and whatnot. Really, a lot of our issues in general.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 20, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
It’s the crux of the issue really. Sacramento grew east to 65th (and south to Florin) by the 70’s, than out to Rancho by the late 70’s, Citrus Heights and Antelope grew big in the 80’s, and then Elk Grove, Roseville and the outlying suburbs got big. Natomas was the last of that.
As the area has changed, it needs to go along with it. The suburban sprawl is not something I care for. My point, though, is that even though enough people voted for KJ for mayor, enough people also don’t want to pay for a new arena either. He’ll be reviled for it no matter what he does it.
It has nothing to do with anything other than the Sac proper voters.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
reviled, yes, though I'm pretty sure his re-election is safe regardless.
I think we’re on the same page as far as the difference between people in the larger Sacto area that will never like Mayor Johnson, and those within city limits that are more in-tune with his way of doing things (he did, after all, win election by a pretty hefty margin over a multi-term incumbent despite a great deal of negative press throughout the campaign). But I suppose this is a basketball blog, not one about Sacramento politics, so I’ll leave it there.
As for the arena effort:
…even though enough people voted for KJ for mayor, enough people also don’t want to pay for a new arena either.
…touches on an interesting issue regarding public votes for financing an arena here. If I remember correctly, the vote for Q&R for a sales tax to finance an arena at the railyard was voted-on not just by Sac city residents, but by the surrounding counties as well because the tax would’ve also involved them. If this was the case, I wonder what the results were for the voters within city limits (it may even be possible to dig-up those numbers… a task for another time), and I wonder if it might be possible to pass a public financing vote that didn’t include voters outside of city limits.
This strategy might actually not make any sense at all, considering a great deal of Kings fans (and especially season ticket holders, I’m sure) live outside the city and I have no tangible reason to expect the city’s voters to approve public financing, other than the significant support for Mayor Johnson.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
What's not to like?
Beats the crap out of mayor that thinks that placing a Farrell’s on “K” street is enough to revitalize downtown.
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THEY'RE PUTTING A FARRELL'S ON K STREET?!?
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by andy sims on Nov 19, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We should have gone in together and bought the Silver Dome.
No law when it comes to me.
I let you type critics write and I just keep it hood.
That will never change.
I am not kissing no ones ass because I'm in LA. Suck a cock.
-Ron Artest (e-mail exchange with Kyle Slavin)
I pulled out because I thought that the deal included the Lions
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by section214 on Nov 19, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This seen always reminds me of Heather Fargo.
I don’t mean to a basher because I’m not but Fargo always reminds me of the one who gets the $100 bill.
Not exactly the person you want fighting to keep men’s professional basketball in Sacramento.
No law when it comes to me.
I let you type critics write and I just keep it hood.
That will never change.
I am not kissing no ones ass because I'm in LA. Suck a cock.
-Ron Artest (e-mail exchange with Kyle Slavin)
Jesus....Scene, not seen.
drinking and posting not working out so well.
No law when it comes to me.
I let you type critics write and I just keep it hood.
That will never change.
I am not kissing no ones ass because I'm in LA. Suck a cock.
-Ron Artest (e-mail exchange with Kyle Slavin)
Aint that the truth
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
Speak for yourself
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 19, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a good thing
The first thing I thought when I heard he was running for mayor was that he was going to get an arena built for Sacramento. I wish him luck.
Kevin Johnson - activist
Action – this is great, not good. Mayor Johnson has made a strong effort to continue to make this happen. There is a time limit here so you can argue priorities – but this is a big deal to the future of the area either way. It will say alot about how things are done in Sacramento (or not done)
Re-Action – Nobody is busting down the doors to make this happen – but there is political and financial support to allow the opportunity – it has been tried – but I applaud the effort to try a different approach, involve new faces, new ideas.
InAction – I made the mistake of reading the link online and of course there is always some SacBee.com comment. Haters, Conspiricists, Malcontents – is this where they go to roost? I will be shaving my head so I don’t pull my hair out now.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 20, 2009 10:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Reading SacBee.com comments was starting to make me want to kill myself
I had to quit, cold-turkey. Sort of. Okay, I fall off the wagon every once in a while, I just try harder to not let it get to me, and I don’t post any comments. Usually.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 20, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
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