Preview: Kings at Rockets
THE OPPONENT
The Kings, you may remember, saw these Rockets about a week ago, in Sacramento's most recent win, one which took the team to a 5-4 record. The Kings have lost two straight: a disappointing slopfest against Chicago, and a resilient fight in Dallas. Houston has gone 2-2 since last Friday, beating the Lakers and Wolves on the road but losing to Phoenix at home, and suffered heartbreak in Atlanta last night.
Even though the Rockets slept in their own beds last night, the Kings should be more well-rested, having played two fewer games in the past week and having had just the short flight from Dallas last night instead of the longer journey from Atlanta. Trevor Ariza and Luis Scola each played more than 34 minutes last night; three other Rockets (Shane Battier, Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry) played more than 30 minutes last night.
When the Rockets visitied Sacramento, as a reminder, Jason Thompson went ballistic with 27 points and 11 rebounds, nine of which came on the offensive end. Beno Udrih and Tyreke Evans combined for 42 points. Ariza scored 17 in the first half, but got too cocksure from behind the arc and shot 4-12 from three. Houston missed a ton of open shots in the second half, but the Kings defense was pretty solid overall.
The Rockets have the No. 7 offense and No. 14 defense. The Kings have the No. 10 offense and No. 24 defense.
THE KEY BATTLE
Again, look for the Luis Scola-Jason Thompson match-up to set the tone. Thompson was an absolute beast on the offensive glass last time -- there's no understating that -- and while Scola is a good defensive rebounder, he's undersized and not athletic enough in this particular match-up. You know Elston Turner will have a gameplan to keep Thompson off putback duty, but you'd also would have thought he had a plan to keep Josh Smith from throwing down a game-winning putback dunk last night. So there you go. On the other end, Thompson needs to be wary of foul trouble -- that's Houston's best strategy against him: attack with Scola, who is crafty as a Girl Scout summer camp.
NUMERIC PREDICTION
Raw points differential (plus HCA) calls a 7.6-point Houston victory. SRS calls a 7.7-point Houston victory. SSRS calls a 999,992.4-point Kings victory.
INTERESTING SIDESHOW
I'm eager to see how Houston will come out of the gates against the Kings. No doubt the loss in Sacramento spoiled an otherwise successful road trip. Perhaps the Rockets got their aggression out against the Lakers, but so recent a disappointing loss (and the Rockets were disappointed) should provide a nice adrenaline boost. The Kings have met almost every adrenaline challenge to date, though. The team's spirit has been commendable.
BOLD PROCLAMATION
Spencer Hawes will have 17 rebounds. Not a single one more!
DETAILS
This game will also tip off at 5:30 PM Pacific. Game thread then, followed by GT2 at 6:30 and the post-game thread at 8:15.
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Cocksure.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 21, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
First thought I had while reading the article...
what exactly is the definition of cocksure? And how does it differ from sure, and cock for that matter.
by Smills91 on Nov 21, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bold Proclomation
For the entire year?
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by Aykis16 on Nov 21, 2009 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Here's a bold prediction
Kings win this game. The only way to do that would be Jt AND Spence have monster games. Houston has two of the best wing defenders in the league so Tyreke should have his hands full. Now I wouldn’t be suprised or terribly disappointed if we lost. Houston is a good, well coached team playing at home but this team showed me alot last night. I was honestly expecting a 20+ pt blowout.
by allbenji's on Nov 21, 2009 12:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
IF I were a gambling man...
Rockets are 11 point favorites
Over/under is 203
Discuss amongst yourselves…
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by 27freethrows on Nov 21, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My take
Last night was bad for my fake gambling habit. Today I’ll go with the Kings to cover the spread, and the over.
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by 27freethrows on Nov 21, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yah
For those that think the Kings will win the game, the money line is a tempting +550
(betting 100 on a Kings win mets you $550)
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by 27freethrows on Nov 21, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are some pretty crazy odds
The Kings are always underrated, nowadays. If I’d put the odds on this game I’d say the Rockets are 5 point favorites with a +85 or +90 money line and put the Kings at +110 or so. +555 are really good odds!
by CloudyEyes on Nov 21, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kings to cover and under
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 21, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
(though I think any gambling other than very rarely and casually is incredibly stupid)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 21, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gambling ain't for lazy people
You gotta work at it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 21, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess you aren't familiar of the concept of the state lottery
by betweentheeyes on Nov 21, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
State lotteries are a tax on people bad at math.
(Actually they sell hope, which when you think about it, is an absurd and horribly cynical thing for a government to do.)
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
by ForThree on Nov 21, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kings are almost always the underdogs
I’d take my pick on the Kings while their streak is still relatively unnoticed.
by CloudyEyes on Nov 21, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea how this works
Maybe that’s a good thing
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by edm7 on Nov 21, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ric Adleman is trying to mess with Nocioni

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 21, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
yo ho ho and a bottle?
it will take more than that to addle that man. oh, and could you put a hook on that right hand?
by betweentheeyes on Nov 21, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 21, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
done in MSPAINT, so yeah – it looks terrible.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 21, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I see the Oakland Raiders in a whole new light
is the name of the logo Raider Rick?
by betweentheeyes on Nov 21, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kings, Rockets clash in Houston
That is the title to the game preview on Hoopsworld.com. Nice isn’t it? I am saying that because too often last year I would read “Rockets take on lowly kings” or “(insert team) looks to bounce back against struggling kings”
by allbenji's on Nov 21, 2009 12:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
excellent point - haven't seen lowly, hapless or woeful yet this year
a big improvement over last season
by betweentheeyes on Nov 21, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully we win and Bill Ingram can cry some more.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 21, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Spencer with 6 last night. The questoin is: how many games for him to get 11 more?
I say 2.
I like the Scola, Landry, Hayes v. Thompson, Hawes, ?Greene? .. ? May? match up. You have to expect that both teams will be contesting rebounds more aggressively than usual.
On the other front: Brooks and Landry v. Beno, Rodriquez. I expect Ariza to guard Evans and vice versa with help from Udoka. I thought lighting Brooks and Bowling Ball Landry to be a little “under effective” (my non dictionary term) last week. I expect bigger games from both and less of a game from Beno as well as improvements from 44 min last night Tyreke Evans.
Ariza shouldn’t be hitting 3s like last time either, but Budinger may be the 3 point wild card (the Kings seem to be giving up wide open 3s a bit much – one of the unchanged items from last season). It seems that each of the teams the Kings have met have someone having a nice night from beyond the arc.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 21, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What the F Spence?
Could someone please wake Spencer up? I still haven’t found an adequate answer for Spencer’s struggles. This team could be very good if Spencer plays anything like he did last year.
by amonk81 on Nov 21, 2009 1:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmm
Spencer last year: 11.4 pts, 7.1 rebs, 1.9 assist, 0.6 steals,1.2 blocks
Spencer this year: 10.1 pts, 6.9 rebs, 1.8 assist, 0.7 steals, 1.3 blocks
I don’t want to become a Spence apologist but what you just wrote isn’t accurate. If Spencer played better than last year then the team could be good. He’s already putting the same numbers as last year and doing more things you don’t see in the box score.
Spencer needs to play better, no doubt about that, but he’s not playing worse than he did last year (at least numbers wise).
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by edm7 on Nov 21, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This team could be very good if Spencer played better then he did last year, and the year before that, and this year.
I just want him to average 20 and 10 is that so much to ask?
Ba-da
by Ba-Da Bing on Nov 21, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just
want him to stop shooting threes and play in the post. I guess that’s too much to ask for
by kingme on Nov 21, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
considering he's 0-13, I think you're right.
similarly to Brad Miller if his mid range jumper is not there he is a mediocre (at best) player
Ba-da
by Ba-Da Bing on Nov 21, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if you're serious (hope you're not) but I'll go for it anyways
Yes, that’s unrealistic
Player’s averaging 20 and 10 this year:
Chris Bosh
and that’s it
Player’s who averaged 20 and 10 last year:
Dwight Howard
After looking at this you were probably joking, now way that was a serious question.
Chris Bosh
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by edm7 on Nov 21, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Messed that one up
This year is Bosh
Last year only Howard and Bosh
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by edm7 on Nov 21, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Chicken or the Egg theory
Is Spencer producing less because he’s playing less. OR, is he playing less because he’s producing less.
In the Chicago game, Spencer produced 1 pt less than JT, while playing 10 fewer minutes. And, JT is having more post up plays run for him than Hawes has. And, while JT has improved his low post game, it’s nowhere near as polished as Hawes.
PW is using Spencer out on top to set screens and run pick & rolls. And, while Tyreke has been able to set up Spencer (twice in the last 2 games) off the Pick & Roll, Beno never does. Some people think that Spencer is going out hign on his own. I suggest that it’s part of the offensive sets, and is what PW is telling him to do. My reason for this way of thinking is, that PW has shown no hesitation in pulling out players who screw up. If he didn’t want Spencer to move away from the basket, he’d surely make a point of telling him when he pulled him on the next stoppage of play.
Also, in preseason, PW said that the plan was for Spencer to set up in the post early in the offense, and then move out top when he doesn’t get the ball. But, the Kings are slow getting the ball up court, and into the play early, so only 25% of Spencer’s shots come early in the possession (1-10secs). And, although 48% of Spencer’s shots are in close, he’s only getting 10 shot attempts a game. Additionally, Spencer is shooting 54% in close, so there isn’t a real reason for PW not to run more plays for Spencer down low. By comparison, JT is shooting 53% in close.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Nov 21, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True about the numbers
However, we can all see that Spencer is not playing as well as he did last year. There is an obvious lack of confidence, and his O is not the same. I guess I should have said, if Spencer plays at the top of his game, which he did on a number of occasions last year, Kings could be good.
by amonk81 on Nov 21, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In addition....
Sometimes I lose my head, and with it, logic and reason when it comes to Spencer. I am frustrated at his play.
by amonk81 on Nov 21, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No doubt about that
Just wanted to make sure to keep things in perspective. Spencer needs to play better for sure, he’s been dissapointing, there’s no denying that. And frustration does lead to quick criticism, which is what what all do anyways. I just had the chance to look at the numbers and see than they don’t look that different.
One thing that has been horible is his field goal , down to almost 40$ from about a 45 last year. That shows his inefficiency on the offensive end (though he improved his FT%). I hope he gets better too, and have no reason to believe he won’t.
One last thing, don’t forget to use the reply button please. It makes for more organized conversations.
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by edm7 on Nov 21, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So .... Spencer lost 5 bucks and he is still bummed about it?
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 21, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it helps Hawes pull his head out of his ass
I guess i could spot him 5$ so he can break even, and get that confidence back.
by SKanthony on Nov 21, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer had a nice bankshot from about 16-17 feet last night
late in the game. The best thing about it was there was no hesitation.
Play, Spencer, and stop thinking so much.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 21, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
Stop thinking. Play.
Is my banana fluffy enough?
by 27freethrows on Nov 21, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 21, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I feel that we are going to lose this game
I hope not!
by kingme on Nov 21, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
betting helps. put some money on it and you cant help but think they'll win.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 21, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Betting always helps
I had money on the Project Runway finally. Or I would have if I was a gambling man…
Is my banana fluffy enough?
by 27freethrows on Nov 21, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since my girlfriend has to watch America's top model i keep it interesting with gambling
you should give me your email, 27, i think we have a similar hobby. Or, addiction, if you’re my great aunt Ruth. But what does she know? This isn’t the great depression anymore! Making money is easy!
Sorry. Rant.
Can anybody loan me some money?
Go Kings!
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 21, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There have been so many upsets this early in the season
I’m not that confident. We did, after all, upset a few teams already
by kingme on Nov 21, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we win
Recap needs to mention Bill Ingram as a huge tool. Same if we lose.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Nov 21, 2009 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's true! Ziller is a teenage girl.
Scola, who is crafty as a Girl Scout summer camp.
Nice preview. I’m strangely hopeful for this game. Go Kings!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 21, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Camp helped Ziller develop his online persona!
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Nov 21, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To build on TZ, Soon the book on the Kings will be:
Go at JT, get him in trouble early and the Kings don’t have any size left to throw at you. Mark my words, teams that succeed in it will win most of the games.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 21, 2009 3:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tyeke Doubtful tonight
Greene to start in his place if he dosn’t play.
Via @jejones_sacbee
by SKanthony on Nov 21, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ack
Evans is doubtful due to his hand, reports Jason Jones. Donte will start at SG if Evans can’t go.
by Ziller on Nov 21, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ack
Ack. Ack.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 21, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ba-Humbug
No one else is gonna say it, I will..
SOFT.
by bench_blob on Nov 21, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew there was something wrong with me feeling strangely hopeful for this game.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 21, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what you get fool
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 21, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing it's the weekend
Grant Napear can’t call him soft until Monday.
by otis29 on Nov 21, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am Peaches weekend spokesman
…duh, duh, duh, jibberish, soft, ny giants, duh, see saws back and forth, duh…
by bench_blob on Nov 21, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck Greene
Should be interesting, and should cause a lot of trouble for the rockets on D.
I’m really disappointed Tyreke is out its been fun to watch him, hopefully he is back Monday.
by SKanthony on Nov 21, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great opportunity for Donte
Great great opportunity for Donte. That’s what he needs is opportunities.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 21, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just keep improving Kings.
Thats all I want to see tonight. Can the kids handle the texas two-step? Can they bounce back from the close loss and be ready for the Rockets initial push?
Just keep on keepin on.
by ThePrince on Nov 21, 2009 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Bright side: it’s Beno’s first start at point guard. Yuk yuk.
by Ziller on Nov 21, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Makes the match up
Really not JT and Scola as the most interesting to me. More interested in the Ariza and Greene match up..
by MustangMBS on Nov 21, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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