Post-Game Thread: Knicks at Kings
by Tom Ziller on Nov 25, 2009 9:36 PM PST
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Kings win! Rumors of Donté Greene's demise have been greatly overstated. Discuss.
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I object to that record up there!
Rack another one up!
Cool!
Do it 5 more times!
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This needs to be the Recap picture tomorrow.
Where did you find this amazing gif?
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This was D3 back in the day
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by Scott Coleman on Nov 25, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Donte Green
No player in the history of the league has ever had at least 24 pts, 6 3P made, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 6 blocks, and 2 steals in the same game… Other than Donte Green.
Doratio Kane
His future [i]s so bright…
He has to wear shades.
by unfair weather on Nov 25, 2009 9:35 PM PST
What's the past tense for "scam?" Is it "scrumped?"
by swoosh91 on Nov 25, 2009 9:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
What is going on with JT?, it’s seems that he can’t get his game going.
by Burrito3 on Nov 25, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions
True. He didn't get a double double but -
- that’s hard to do when your teammates are playing so well like tonight.
10-8 isn’t too bad. His +/- was +18. I’ll take the W with average JT numbers any day.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Same here.
I think as long as two of our key guys have a big game (Evans-JT, JT-Hawes, Evans-Hawes), we’ll have a good chance at winning.
Just imagine when we have potentially 3 players going off at the same time (when KMart comes back) It’ll be like we have our own Big Three.
There can only be one Noce!
Big Three with an AMAZING bench.
If our bench keeps developing, they’re going to be a force to be reckoned with by the time Kevin gets back and into the groove of the offense. It’s just downright scary how good this team can be.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
yeah.
With the way Beno, Casspi and Greene have been playing, there isn’t a big drop in talent from our first five to our bench.
Evans, KMart, Noce, JT, Hawes>Beno, Garcia, Greene, Casspi, Brockman
Not like other teams (Dwight Howard to Gortat, Garnett to Glen Davis, LBJ to whoever) who suffer a major drop in talent when they sub their main guys out.
There can only be one Noce!
MVP by quarters...
Noce and Hawes in the 1st
Greene and Sergio in the 2nd
Brockness, Greene and Evans in the 3rd
Greene, Evans and Sergio in the 4th
There can only be one Noce!
sergio
I’d love to see more happen with the offense when Sergio has the ball. It’s always a quick drive and pass or a quick drive and lay up out of him. Can’t complain with a W though!
Such a satisfying win from start to finish.
Donte Mutombo. Damn. Really liked how Donte didn’t try to do too much and he played his best game to date. 6 blocks is just damn crazy.
Hawes showed tons of patience. Loved seeing him DRIVE to the hole from the 3 point line.
Serge played admirably but I still wish he didn’t sling those risky alley-oop passes into a crowd. His shot seems to be getting better. He’s still not ready for prime time…yet.
When will Hawes and JT have great games at the same frakkin’ time?
Really liked how ’Reke found his bigs in the paint and his shooters on the wing. He had 7 assists. Again, not bad for a combo guard. :P
Anyways, great game and HUGE night for Agent 20.
Let’s keep Jersey’s LOSING streak going on Friday.
Go Kings!
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Loved seeing him DRIVE to the hole from the 3 point line
But, I hope he never tries that again
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Greene has 2 incredible games in a week or so
PW said that Mario Ellie has been working with him a lot. Must have finally gotten through. I am so proud of Donté making the doubters like me look like idiots. His comeback is amazing.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
DG is fun to cheer for
With all the people calling him garbage and saying GP should not have picked up his option its nice to see him do well. I watched him last year with the Bighorns and he still needed lots of work but looked really happy to be playing. Glad he is seeing it all come together
Word! I give a lot of credit to the coaching staff.
Agent 20’s catch and shoot is so much faster now. He stands at his spot with his feet already in a shooting stance. I don’t think his release has been this quick everrr.
And of course, I credit Donte himself for putting in the hard work. He and JT are always tweeting about heading to the gym during off hours, which is so great to see.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Great win for Brockman's Brigade
Very nice to get the monkey off their back for now. Excellent start, particularly Hawes and Nocioni, which all made for a nice opening act for The Donte Greene Show. Brockman played big, Sergio ignited the offense and Tyreke was pretty special even on a bit of an off-night for him. Love Omri’s enthusiasm.
Scouting the Knicks, David Lee is obviously a nice nugget. I also think Gallinari has a chance to be special, although the Kings took away his three ball for the most part tonight. They did a great job defending the 3, particularly after the first quarter.
Let’s beat the Nets!
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 25, 2009 9:58 PM PST reply actions
Dern it! No 8 in a row for Tyreke tonight. He had 19.
Cannot really complain with a double double.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
even missing the 20 pt mark he still had a super solid line
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Kings win yay!
I finally got a new account because i lost my old password. Its good to be back on sactownroyalty and great win by the kings.
Welcome back
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Nov 25, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Almost the exact opposite of the Memphis game
That game was unbearable to watch. This game I didn’t want to end it was so fun.
Hot damn did Donte play well. He looked like Josh Smith with 3 point range out there tonight. That dunk he had in the 3rd (I think it was the 3rd) was probably the best dunk I’ve ever seen by a Kings player next to Ronnie Price’s dunk on Boozer. His defense was also superb and his 3 point shot was really falling tonight. I think we wait one more game and if he keeps playing like this, the coaching staff really needs to consider whether to start him or not. I might expand on this more in a fanpost, but here’s the basic idea: You don’t start Donte at SF, you start him at SG. That way you regain the mismatch problem in the backcourt the Kings lost with K-Mart going out. In fact with Donte in there it would be an even bigger mismatch, and teams would be forced to put they’re point guards on ‘Reke because he’d be the smallest guy on the court. Let me know what you guys think.
Spencer played great for the time he was playing. I know he didn’t get to much playing time, but I think it was because we were winning so much and Paul really wanted to reward Brockman with minutes that he deserved. But really good start for Spencer.
JT didn’t really do anything to stand out, didn’t play much either (5 fouls in 25 minutes isn’t good though), but he had some good post ups against the weaker Knicks.
Reke had an off-night to me and he still put up 19 pts, 11 rbd, 7 ast, 2 stl. This kids for real. He had some good defensive moments too.
Nice to see Udoka get some PT too. He’s a quality defender.
Omri had a decent game as well, sort of what we’ve come to expect.
Sergio shot a little too much in this game and had a few sloppy turnovers, but I noticed him definitely at least trying on defense (he had a couple great steals too), and still ran the floor nicely. His speed lets him get to the basket almost as well as Reke’s craftiness.
The Knicks are not good. They had a lot of wide open layup opportunities that they passed up in favor of the 3 ball. Almost 43% of their shots were 3 but they only made 10-39. The Kings weren’t even defending the 3 ball all that well, most of those were relatively uncontested. I would not want to be the opposing team the night New York is feeling it though. Playing the Knicks sort of reminded me of playing the Warriors, although David Lee is better than any big on the Warriors and Al Harrington can hold his own against other PFs so they’re a little stronger inside.
Anyway really good game, hopefully the Donte Greene Show continues for many years to come.
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I wouldn't mind having him as the starting SF either.
If he can be this consistent, i don’t think PW can keep him from the starting lineup.
There can only be one Noce!
Well I like him in there for the mismatch potential
And I think Westphal does too.
And Beno’s shown that he can still play well this year coming off the bench.
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I dunno. That'd be great if Donte could produce this way off the bench.
His energy and scoring would be such a plus if he came into the game as a 6th or 7th man. It gets even better if he defends the way he did tonight.
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But think about the mismatch possibilities!
Reke at 6-6 is our shortest player on the floor, and he’s strong.
Donte is 6-10 at SHOOTING GUARD. How many 2s are 6-10?
Noc is 6-8 at SF and tough as an Ox.
JT is 6-11 and Spence is 7-0.
That is a huge lineup and it will cause problems for a lot of teams. It definitely did for the Knicks tonight. At one point they had Nate Robinson on Donte. Huge disadvantage.
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And Donte is a better defender than Beno as well.
Although gotta give Beno (and Westphal) his props, he’s been doing a decent job staying in front of his man this year.
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He's also better than Kevin at defense as well.
I’m thinking about when Kevin and Cisco get back into the lineup.
I’m all for starting him at the 2 right now. Totally.
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Why not? It seemed to work?
Beno, Martin and Garcia can be worked into the lineup later on, if need be.
There can only be one Noce!
LOL. No I'm saying I agree.
Right now I think it works.
But Kevin’s going to start at the 2 when he comes back which means Donte would probably start at the 3 if he continues his beastly play. That’s still a killer lineup.
’Reke
Kevin
Donte
JT
Hawes
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
I'm definitely more comfortable with trading Noc
if Donte plays like this more often. And I think if we see this type of game consistently, Noc will be gone by the trade deadline, probably in a salary dump (although I think the Kings will obviously look to try to find some possible talent/picks first)
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I'd love to get a low-post threat.
Just someone who can score with his back to the hoop. Really, that’s all I really think we need. JT and Hawes aren’t solid in that area yet.
For the future – I think players like JaVale McGee and DeAndre Jordan can be developed by Truck and our coaching staff. They’re both tall, super young and athletic but their work ethic is questionable.
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I like both those guys
McGee is the more available one.
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Hope so. They already got Blatche and Haywood.
I wonder what would it take to bring him here. Too lazy to do the math.
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If McGee is available
the times I’ve seen him play, he’s been impressive.
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No and No
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Ike - if he was 3 inches taller and 'normal'.
He’s actually pretty dope in the paint. He just seemed like a headcase when he was here. No more bad vibes or drama!
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and at one point we had Brockman on Nate
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
I laughed at that
The funny thing was, Jon actually did a good job.
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In inches or Johnson Brockman inches?
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Well, I also see it as...
With Greene as a (hopefully effective) starter, we have Casspi, Nocioni and Garcia as high energy bench guys to pound on the opponents’ subs!
Or Noce/Garcia can be parlayed into Okafor/Camby/Kaman, Dalembert etc…
There can only be one Noce!
Word but...I'll only take Kaman outta that lot...and that's it.
He’s the healthiest one with the most lethal post up moves.
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Agreed.
Im looking at other options but there just aren’t many left.
Jeff Foster, maybe?
There can only be one Noce!
Foster's too old.
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Bleh. Jeff Foster has no post up game either.
Not that I try to watch him when the Pacers are on.
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Word. And good call on the Donte dunk.
That dunk he had in the 3rd (I think it was the 3rd) was probably the best dunk I’ve ever seen by a Kings player next to Ronnie Price’s dunk on Boozer.
I still think that’s one of the better posterizings I’ve ever seen. It’s so ironic that he plays on the Jazz now.
The fact that ’Reke had just a so-so game by his standards and STILL controlled the game speaks plenty about his talent.
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It didn't even feel like he controlled the game
That was the quietest almost triple-double I’ve ever seen.
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Yep - super quiet! He got double and triple teamed a lot -
which lead to him finding Hawes in the paint or NOC and Serge on the wing. It was almost like a Tim Duncan performance where he scores quietly and the Spurs end up winning by 20.
Quiet or loud, the Knicks couldn’t stop him and we got the W. I’ll take it.
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A convincing W.
Knicks scored a bunch of meaningless points near the end that made it look closer than it was.
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yeah...from START to FINISH.
I don’t recall seeing that last year at all. If it was, it was erased from my memory from seeing too many Beno Turnovers and Brad Miller’s whining.
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Interesting Idea...
of putting Don-tray at the ‘two’ guard. I am all in favor of creating mismatches. Last time Don-tray scored big (24 points) he followed up with goose egg. So I think now is the time we want to see that consistency and expand the minutes accordingly. I think Don-tray creates more of a mismatch at the ‘4’. Big guys don’t want to step out or deal with the quickness. But since Don-tray is not the best rebounder, using him as ‘2’ or ‘3’ with Omri and Brockman, and guys who can board, gives PW plenty of options.
Upon further thought, you take a ball handler and creator off the court to take pressure of Tyreke if you sit Beno and start Don-tray in his place. We need a ball handler at the ‘2’. Tonight was exception because Knicks are so stinky.
Yes, but eventually you want to have Tyreke and Kevin coexist peacefully
And Kevin isn’t exactly a playmaker/ball handler.
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Too early call
We don’t know how good Don-tray can be yet. Does he have star potential or just the occasional outbursts followed by disappearing acts? And we don’t know if K-Mart and Tyreke are going to establish that chemistry that was missing before, and peacefully coexist, as you say.
I think the one conclusion we can draw is the better Omri and Don-tray play, the more expendable Noce becomes. Beno becomes more expendable too, but I would be careful trading him unless a no-brainer deal came along. He has unique skill set of ball-handling, passing, and midrange game that complements other Kings.
Anyway, Don-tray plays with confidence and smarts he showed tonight, he is a totally new player from last year. He is transforming before our eyes from Quincy Douby V 2.0 to a heck of a player.
The thing now is whether we want to stick it out with our present group of players or not.
True, Donte and Omri seem to be playing well but enough to risk losing our depth and versatility in the F positions?
If Garcia comes back and he’s better than ever, I think we can safely say Noce is expendable and that the need for a powerplaying PF-C overrides the needs for an outside shooting, tough defending SF/PF.
There can only be one Noce!
I think Beno stays. Without him our PG rotation is very thin.
There aren’t too many PG’s out there with Beno’s skill set as you mentioned. I wouldn’t trade him unless a gangbuster trade involving a postup stud was available.
I don’t mind if Donte doesn’t become a star player. I just want him to be consistent role player. If he averaged 16 and 9 with 1.3 blocks and shot 34% to 39% from 3, I’d consider him gold.
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Aykis, conceptually I like the idea but I don't know enough about é's game
since I’ve been hating on him for a season and 4 games. Does he have the handle and the speed to play with other 2’s. Also, ‘Reke and Beno have been splitting the 1 and 2, playing what I call a 1.5. If you put Donté at the 2 does it force ’Reke to play a more prototypical 1 and is that ’Reke’s strength?
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Good points.
I think we need to see this play from Donte consistently for a few months before I can tell. He shows he can handle the ball but I think his height will lead to him getting picked if he dribbles to create his own shot against a smaller defender. I doubt he can dribble low enough to defer smaller and quicker opponents.
I think he’d be strictly a catch n’ shoot 2 guard like Hamilton and Ray Ray. His release tonight was blazing fast. I think he worked on that a lot this summer.
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The release was one of the fastest I've seen from a player
And yes, I agree we need to see if Donte plays consistently now.
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Copied it from Casspi!
(good for him)
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 26, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
He sure looked like a point guard
on that bounce pass past two Knicks to Brockman. I could watch that play all night.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 26, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Assists per minute
Beno – 1 every 8 minutes.
Tyreked- 1 every 7 minutes.
I’m no sure what a prototypical point guard is anymore, but I think that Tyreke would be fine whether he is playing next to Martin, Greene, Udrih, Udoka, Casspi or Rodriguez. The funny thing is that he might have to make the biggest adjustment to play with Rodriguez, as Sergio has a tendency to dominate the ball at times.
Oh, Sergio – 1 every 5 minutes.
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Yeah
I think a lot of this is he a 1 or 2 is way overblown. In any case, he’s definitely a point guard who can play with or without another point guard on the floor
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 26, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Eric Snow is giving love to Sactown on NBATV gametime.
Eric said that the Arco vibe is coming back and teams have to play tough when they come to Sac. They also called the package the ‘Donte Greene Highlights!’
Great way to cap the night.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Some good vids from the Kings
Post game interview with Donte
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QoeGVNWDU&feature=channel
THE Dunk (It will clear your earwax out)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5iZhL9oVe0&feature=channel
I could watch that dunk all day.
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Loved the game tonight, don't want to take anything away from the win
Is this the worst team we’ve faced this year?
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I would say that the Warriors with Stephen Jackson
were the worst team we’ve faced this year. They’re better without him than the Knicks though.
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Hmmm.
I dunno…even though they beat us, I still think Memphis looked the most out of sync. The Warriors were pretty bad when Cap’n Fool was still on their roster.
I actually think the Knicks are super dangerous when their shots are falling. That system get beat any team if they have the hot hand.
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Works better with players that are actually good though
See D’Antoni in Phoenix.
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The dubs did the Mavs last night on the road
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meant ^beat the Mavs
Montay……fine ass
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with 6 players and no Don Nelson
Pretty crazy.
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Monta Ellis had an almost triple double like Reke
37 11 and 8. Except the 8 were assists and the 11 were turnovers.
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Reke is that kind of good....
The type that can have a bum ankle and an off game and still put up numbers. Now, if Hawes and JT can find their roles in this offense, things will be sweet(er). It seems like PW and staff need to find a way to utilize the bigs passing abilities.
Hawes would have had 30 if Westphal played him more than 18 minutes.
He was on a roll. Again I don’t think it was a slight on Spencer why he got so few minutes, I think it was more of we were winning by a lot and Westphal wanted to reward Mancakes with some minutes against a team where his height isn’t a big disadvantage.
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I think Hawes appreciated the rest.
Running up and down with the KNicks has to be tiring.
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And no need to play the starters too much in a huge win
I like the minutes (although Reke probably should have had less since he had a hurt ankle)
Only Reke (39), Donte (35) and Sergio (32) with 30 or more minutes.
Our guys should be pretty well rested for the Nets.
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Yep. And like you said...or somebody said...
We don’t wanna be THAT team. Yikes.
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I don't.
Well…not until Saturday morning after a Kings win (hopefully).
The more the Nets lose the more people will forget that the Kings had the worst record last year. :P
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
True. I'd like to see Hawes in the high post like B-Rad used to do.
Not all the time but every now and then to show the defense different looks.
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And Hawes and JT passing to eachother
pick and rolls…and general ball movement comes when the bigs are involved.
I just picked up Greene in fantasy
That will make up for losing KMart….
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by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
Just finished watching the game tape
Ohh boy, Mr. Donte Greene. I’m not the “I told you so” type (actually hate those type of people) but I really can’t help myself on his. I’ve been defending Donte for a while now and it feels so good to see this guy having games like this. You can say all you want about small sample sizes and that it has just been a couple games, but players don’t score over 20 on multiple games, show this effort on D, and get this numbers of blocks and then dissapear. Donte is growing as a player in front of our eyes and the Kings will be better for it. The best part is that he showed things on both ends of the court and was effective and impressive on both sides.
Donte Greene is an NBA player and everyone that talked so much shit about the kid should at least own up to the good things he’s doing now. I remember someone went to a summer league game and came back talking massive amounts of crap about Donte; I wish he would step up and talk about that now. Bluejohn has been admitting to this for a bit now and I can respect that a lot.
Anyways… that was my Donte rant (I’m just really happy for the guy.Now, keep it up e!!)
I thought it was a really good game by everyone. Like Noceone said above, thre were different MVPs every quarter and that’s how it should be, a team effort. Spencer set the tone early and I’m glad he got a lot of rest (Brook Lopez is up next). Brockman picked up from there with the effort, rebounding, and D. I watched him a lot on the post and he dd a real good job IMO. I think he’s making a good case to take K-9’s minutes. JT maybe didn’t have an amazing game but when everyone else has it going, then it doesn’t matter. We gotta understand not every player will have a great outing, every game. We just need a couple to get going and then the rest to do the little things.
Reke indeed had a quiet great night. It amazes how many new things he shows every game. I see passes that he wasn’t able to make two games ago. I see a much better understanding on how he needs to run the offense. ergio did a good job too though Ihe took one too many shots but is ok, the knicks style is contagious. Like V’s comment in the game thread, I think, about ho he’s able to change the tempo of the game and knows when to go fast and when to slow down. One great thing about Sergio: h knows how to find the big guys and we need a lot of that.
Noce also had a really good start and owned the firdt along with Spence. Unfortunately, the meergence of Donte and Omri pretty much makes him expendable and at this point I’m fine with expirings. I love the intensity he brings but I feel like Donte and Omri will be able to make up for that.
All in all, it was good game by the good guys. Of course, this was the Knicks but a win is a win and this young team also needs to learn how to put the bad teams away. I don’t care how bad you are, the Kings need to start establishing that they are better than some teams, whether it is 2 or 8 teams, I don’t care; you just gotta do it.
Now, bring it on Nets!
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If I was talking shit by -
- saying his game was in pieces, that he had to earn his playing time – then have at it.
His game WAS in pieces, a real mess.
No one else is happier than me to see that he seems to be putting it together because its great for the Team.
Thats all I ever care about other than in minor ways.
KINGS win.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 26, 2009 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
I was talking shit..
about Donte all summer. I admit it. I don’t mind saying I admit I said he “no game, no balance, dumb decision-making” etc. At the time, it was damn true! With work and maturity, he has come long way in short time. I am pumped the guy is starting to develop as a difference maker on the court. Like PW said, Donte has worked hard to take the junk out of his game, play with controlled aggression. I had my doubts he was capable of this, but glad to be proven wrong.
I thought we should have sent him to the D-League to get some more burn
But burn was what he needed (and a real coach). This sort of reminds me of Kevin Martin’s coming out party after we traded Peja. I’m getting the same feeling, thinking “this guys for real and on our team?”
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Wouldn't that be great?
Donte was definitely the first player I thought about when Martin went down. Injuries suck, but they are also blessing in disguise. Good analogy aykis (following is not really for you)
And just to clarify, when I said “talking shit” I didn’t mean constructively criticizing the kid, cause he deserved that. I meant those who all they had to say about Greene was that he “wasn’t an NBA player,” “was a waste of roster space,” and those who didn’t care enough to “see the potential he had.” Many were waiting for the kid to fail.
Last thing I’m gonna say is that if you feel like I was talking about you then you probably did talk shit and didn’t give the kid a chance, especially conidering the horrendous year the whole team had last season. If anyone feels ‘attacked’ or ‘called out’ then that’s on them…
Ohh, and apparently I don’t care about the team.
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I was speaking for myself
though I never said anything other than what I repeated above and some of the things blob said a bout poor decision making etc…
He still has some work to do (5 TOs) and I hope they stay on him. I still think he took a few too many 3s for his own good (though he made them!), we all know most of last year he was standing out there jacking up 3s and doing little else. Thankfully he’s using that athleticism that we never really got to see last last year and working in the paint.
Keep it up Donte’!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 26, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
I have no objection to Donte shooting the 3 when he's feeling it
6/7 is good. 2/8 is not. But he’s shooting 48% from 3 Pt range this year (Last night sure helped lol). Last year he was 26 of 100, this year he’s 14 of 29. He’s taking a lot smarter threes.
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Run the offense and take the 3s later as the clock is running down
And, I’ll be happy. And, some of Donte’s 3’s were late in the clock. A better decision that passing or trying to create something off the dribble.
And, based on Donte’s 2/8, he’s feeling it all the time.
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While I agree 100% on not taking 3's too early in the shot clock,
I think that we may need to re-calibrate a little when it comes to this team taking 3’s overall. As a team, Kings have an eFG% of 56% – Greene is currently at 72% eFG%!
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And a TS% of 66.2%
If his stats even just stay where they are for the rest of the season (and I’m expecting improvements in most categories just from minutes played, perhaps a drop in FG and 3P%), his improvements from last year will be astounding.
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No doubt he has the skills
It’s the consistency and decisionmaking that Donte needs to keep working on. He has to keep the effort high, and sometimes that’s hard to do in inconsistent minutes. You want to do so much when you are in there, and you try too hard and make mistakes.
Hopefully he continues to improve and gets starter or near starter minutes consistently to show what he can do and continues learning the game.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 27, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
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