Preview: Nets at Kings
by Ziller on Nov 27, 2009 12:00 PM PST
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"No mas! No mas!"
THE OPPONENT
Holy crap. Where to start? OK, for one, I don't know if you have heard this, but the Nets have not won a game since, like, April. 0-15. Zero wins, fifteen freaking losses. No team is really that bad, though I remember the awful 1998-99 Clippers, the team that got it's first win against the Kings in Game No. 18 of a 50-game season. That team was this bad. The Nets, though, aren't. Injury has played such a massive role in this bad start. Everyone has that excuse -- even the Lakers and Cavs and Magic and Mavericks have dealt with missing players. But for the Nets, it has been exceptionally rough. Devin Harris is the motor of the team, and he just came back. (Tonight will be his first start since October.) Courtney Lee missed lots of time. Yi Jianlian -- I have no idea what's gone on with him. Chris Douglas-Roberts had the swine flu! Brook Lopez and Terrence Williams are the only two good players on that team that have been in action throughout, and one of them is an apositional rookie. ROUGH.
As I said, Harris is back, as is Lee. Harris-Lopez might be the best young inside-out combination in the league, with the possible exception of Roy-Oden, Rose-Noah and Gordon-Griffin. (We'll see on that last one, as well as Evans-Thompson or Evans-Hawes.) Harris should have some rust, I'd think, but adrenaline might counteract those limitations, and I wouldn't be surprised if he plays as hard as he ever has. If a well (hopefully) Beno Udrih is guarding him, let's hope our Slovenian can funnel him into help defense, because Harris is lightning quick and smart with the rock.
Lopez went for 32/14 in Portland. Aack!
THE KEY BATTLE
Lopez vs. Spencer Hawes. Goofy lottery big white dude vs. goofy lottery big white dude. Lopez has certainly started his career off in more bombastic fashion, though obviously Hawes has been no slouch, and these two are effectively the same age. Hawes would do well to pull Lopez away from the rim to open up lanes for the slashers and elbow room for Jason Thompson. On the other end, expect early help, especially if Lopez is going strong in the post.
INTERESTING SIDESHOW
The crowd at ARCO is going to be really interesting. I mean, can anything good come of this game for Kings fans? I haven't been this nervous about a game since that time I played strip Parcheesi with Keira Knightley and Fran Drescher. Mix in the holiday weekend, the lack of a pre-game buffet and the anonymity of the opponent, and ... hmm.
BOLD PROCLAMATION
Lawrence Frank is going to yell at someone. Not necessarily a Net.
NUMERIC PREDICTION
Kings by 13.
DETAILS
Game at 7. Game thread at 7. Post-game thread at 9:45. Recap at Boreal.
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I'll be at the game
But I’m terrified. I will not calm down until the final buzzer sounds.
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Kings Win 98-90
I trust that the Kings didn’t go for glutton glory yesterday at their respective thanksgiving feasts. I can’t imagine how tryptophan can be good for anybody’s game.
The Nets are hungry and frustrated as hell, and if they just ate a crappy meal and worked on their game plan all morning, they might play out of their minds enough to pull off their first win.
I want the Kings to play cold-blooded in this game and crush the Nets with this current form of Kings basketball played at its highest peak. I’d like to see JT go back to his usual double double self, Hawes score his career high and even make a three, Reke hit the 20 mark again and Agent 20 go for an encore. I’ll let the others post their Mancakes predictions.
Go Kings.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
“Lopez vs. Spencer Hawes. Goofy lottery big white dude vs. goofy lottery big white dude.” Lopez’s father is Cuban, so he might not consider himself to be white. And I doubt you’ll want to call him “goofy” after he destroys Spencer in the paint on both ends. Don’t get me wrong, I’m rooting for the Kings, but Lopez is a stud, even though the Nets stink. And Lopez has about 20 lbs. on Hawes.
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
+10. I forgot to add that Lopez is mixed point. Glad you mentioned it, Bam.
Lopez vs. Brockman Part 2: The Professional Years, make it happen.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
To quote Han Solo
“I’ve got a baaaad feeling about this.”
We absolutely cannot come out expecting to win this game. The Nets do NOT want to have the worst start in NBA history. Moreso they just want a win. Lopez had 32 and 14 against Greg Oden. Spencer Hawes is not Greg Oden. Jason Thompson meet Sean Williams, the lesser talented, shorter version of you, but he plays with a lot of energy. CDR is a stud, and Williams aint bad himself. Harris is a top 10 point guard in this league.
Where we really have an advantage over NJ though is bench. The Nets do not have one. We do.
We should win, but I’m not gonna relax until the games over and we have more points than they do.
Go Kings.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 27, 2009 12:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oh ya and the Nets are probably pissed
that they weren’t home for Thanksgiving. I would be.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 27, 2009 12:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Then again
Spencer Hawes is not Greg Oden.
Greg Oden is not Jon Brockman. Brockman is going to get some minutes and like Jerry says, Brook will know he’s in the game.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 27, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Wait!
Maybe I read EVERY article wrong this summer because I was told the Kings would be the worst team ever and NJ would surprise (with wins) people.
I do fear this game just because no one wants to be the first to lose to the Nets though.
Just bought tickets to this game
Needless to say, I’ll be doing plenty of drinking to cope with the possibility of a loss.
Dip til I rip
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Hopefully tonight
is not the night, the doctor manages to get his patient off life-support.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
Just Another Game
If the Kings execute and keep the turnovers to a minimum, I don’t see how the Nets could win this game.
I think keeping JT out of foul trouble will also be crucial. Also, I’m looking for Donté to have a monster game tonight! I don’t think the Nets have anyone who can guard him, or Evans for that matter.
Go Kings!
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Agree about Donte but still a bit worried
He had a good game shooting the 3 ball against the Knicks so he may just camp out there and continue to shoot it. Hope he proves me wrong and has another monster game. It’d go a long way to prove he can achieve consistency
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I'm worried that the Kings come out with the same over confident attitude they displayed against Chicago
After not having to work too hard to win the last one I don’t want to see a let down in focus. The Nets are going to win their first game somewhere, just hoping it’s not in Sacramento. Also after making almost every 3 he shot, I’m really hoping that é doesn’t come out chucking tonight. I’m guessing that PW had a little chat with him and reminded him that ‘Reke isn’t the coach and to only take 3’s when PW tells him to take them. Really hoping for a win tonight, this is one game we should win. Thought the same thing about the Memphis game though.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
I don't think Westphal is going to let them come out thinking they don't have to try hard.
This is going to be a close game.
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There's a fine line between confidence and cockiness
Hopefully they find that line and come out with some swagger tonight but continue to work their butts off
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Agreed.
Cockiness is what I’m worried about.
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Any word on Beno?
is he still out with softinitis or is he good now?
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Thanks G
I wonder if PW rides Show’s hot streak or if he just goes back to Beno. I’m guessing Beno starts but I wouldn’t mind Donte starting again to create monster matchups
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I wouldn't mind sticking with Greene as Starting SG for now
Gives us our mismatch advantage again.
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Kings are 1 & 2 with Greene in the starting lineup
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Time for win number 7!
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by mvhsbball on Nov 27, 2009 1:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The Nyets
Couple of things: Devin Harris quick and a good defender – I expect Tyreke to make him feel his injury has not quite fully healed. Courtney Lee on Evans would be more logical but let’s wait and see.
The Rule of 3: The Kings now have weapons at the SF Noce, TNAI (the new and improved) Donté, and Omri who has been treading water well but is primed to make some noise. I don’t see anyone on NJ to play with them.
Other inside/out-ers that are young and upcoming: Jennings/Bogut, Flynn/Jefferson.
And the Brockman thing: rebounding will make the biggest difference in this game, IMO. The Nyets will try and run: control the boards, control the tempo.
Bold Prediction: The Show will get double digit boards tonight: after 6-7 3 pointers, 6 blocked shots and 5 assists – he is ready to show off something new. Other bold prediction: SHawes will follow up the NYK game’s with 20+ points.
TNAI é = +1
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
I'm hoping the Nets first win will come when they get back to Jersey.
Nobody wants to be the team that lets them win their 1st, and that puts extra pressure on the Kings. Hopefully the Kings win, but I think it will be close (it may go into overtime).
Ba-da
IF I were a gambling man
Kings are only favored by 4
Over/Under is 195
Call your shot!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
My take
Illtake the Kings to win and cover, and the over. Let the Christmas shopping begin!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Nov 27, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
I look forward to the time when teams don't look forward to getting the chance to end their losing streak against the Kings
but fear ending their winning streak
A lot of people are referring to us as Rockets-lite.
I think we have a lot more upside than the Rockets though.
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I keep hearing us in the same light as
the TrailBlazers of 2-3 years ago. I think that’s a better parralel
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Nov 27, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
half agree with both:
The scrappyness of the Rockets
The young talent base (still more to come) of the Blazers with Tyreke as BRoy.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 27, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
i must hear or read “Rockets-lite” 5 times a day. The Rockets aren’t too good…
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you work at the jet propulsion laboratories?
by betweentheeyes on Nov 27, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
both are totally true. We’re the Rockets-Lite because we’re doing way better than expected. Their two best guys are out; we’re missing K-Mart. But, we’re also super super young. They have some youngsters but not like we do. That’s where the Blazers comparison comes in.
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Stats on KIngs wins & loses
the KIngs are:
4-0 leading at the half
1-1 tied at the half
1-7 trailing at the half
6-3 leading after three quarters
Kings need to get off to a good start. They have to keep from getting into a hole early.
0-5 having less FT attempts than opponents
Fouls are disasterous. Teams are shooting an extremely high percentage against us.
3-4 committing 15 or more turnovers
3-4 committing under 15 turnovers
Turnovers are bad, if they aren’t from being aggressive. Though not a major impact on W/L.
4-2 outrebounding opponent
1-2 tied with opponent in rebounding
1-4 outrebounded by opponent
We’re 2 & 6 when we don’t outrebound opponents. Need to attack the boards. NO, early shots before the bigs are in place to rebound.
NJ averages 80 shots per game and about 13 3pts. The only make 25% of their 3pt shots. Our bigs need to box out and go to the boards strong. The Nets are a good FT shooting team, and we need to keep them off the FT line. We can beat them in a 3pt shooting contest but we need to take high percentage shoots to keep them from getting out to any sizeable lead.
Get off to a good start with high percentage shots. Control the boards, maybe even attack Lopez early to get him into foul trouble. And don’t foul, & send them to the FT Line. The Nets give up a lot of steals, and aren’t a top shot blocking team (5.5 per game), so Tyreke could have a career night in points in the paint (leave the long jumpers to others big guy) and steals..
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by HighTops on Nov 27, 2009 4:12 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
Good scouting HT
Rec’d for doing our homework
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thanks for taking the time High Tops
1 – Lead at halftime
2- outrebound
3- play aggressive on the offensive end to draw trips to the FT line
4- limit TO’s
Agree with the rebounding simply because the Nyets are up tempo. Warriors- East, IMO.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 27, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
You forgot
5-0 leading after 4 quarters
1-0 tied after 4 quarters
0-8 trailing after 4 quarters
Leading after 4 quarters is key!
Good stuff HT.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
And 1-0
when tied after regulation
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I believe that was covered in my post.
1-0 tied after 4 quarters
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Its a trap game
only the fear of lossing it will lose it for us though.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
extra S
LPA is making notes
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 27, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Me & Santa
Making a list.
Checking it twice.
lttg- lazy speller. Check.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 27, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
koal?
is that what a coal eating Koala drops under the eucalyptus tree?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
they do so in Quantastties
oh, and they took a poll of all the bears, and koalas are soft.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 27, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Have to leave something for LPA
(actually missed that one)
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Ya know
If I corrected all of the grammatical errors you guys make, I’d never get a chance to post anything that reflects my vast store of basketball knowledge.
Or sleep.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 27, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
You could make a career just correcting any one of us,
I’m sure.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Teddies are soft too
Maybe Koal is one of those new green things.
Klean Koal Korporation.
There would be no controversy with that one. ;p
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
you are off you game tonight - no controversy on KKK?
huh? you must be in Southern South Korea
by betweentheeyes on Nov 27, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
ooops I fell into the chasm, didn't I?
by betweentheeyes on Nov 27, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
yes you did
but you climbed back out rather quickly.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 27, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going on record...
…that this will be a very difficult win. I worry about Lopez. He has a great low post moves and Hawes has a terrible time defending big, strong 5s down low. He is going to have a big game, and we are going to need to double him.
Reke is going to have to play great and we will need someone else to step up if we are to win. I know they are 0-15, but I just feel like they ar not a good match up for us.
Lopez will have a good game
Good players do that. Its limiting him and Harris and not allowing some minor player go off that will be key.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 27, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Harris might not be a huge factor
He just has not been too good this year. Granted, he’s only played 5 games, but you expect him to be better. He’s 3 games back have not been great. He’s averaging 12/3/5 on 36% shooting. It’ll take him a bit to find his rhythm and get better, I don’t see it happening tonight though. And Lopez is a monster who can dominate games. But, he doesn’t always do that. He’s had a lot of mediocre games this year. He could have a great game, but it won’t be enough to beat us by himself.
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Off to the game
I know we’re worried (I am!) about it but just gotta stay positive. I think we got it. Go Kings!!!
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matchups
like a lot of you i think lopez will come out with an inspiring effort for his squad. the tyreke/devin harris matchup will be intriguing one because of devins quickness and penetrating ability. if the kings play good peremiter defense and prevent the drive and kick/dump offs…we should come through with a close W.
BTW don’t underestimate Douglas-Roberts. He’s capable of going off for 30 or so
Dude, you called the winning margin.
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