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Kings Hold Off Nets 109-96

When Lawrence Frank went to the Hack-a-Jew strategy, intentionally putting Omri Casspi on the free throw line late in the fourth quarter with the winless Nets down by three possessions, I knew this game had ended.

It was spooky until then, with New Jersey quickly erasing Sacramento's 17-point halftime lead to get the game within two possessions in the third quarter. The Nets hung around, allowing the Kings a few spurts but always answering. It was just as nerve-wracking as that Parcheesi game I mentioned Friday. Basketball is a crazy game (cliche!), and when you get into a close game, it doesn't matter what your record is. Anything can happen.

But Frank, still coaching his ass off, decided to put the game in Casspi's hands. Omri has shot three-pointers about as well as free throws. But when Frank put him on the line, Casspi nailed 3-4 and ended that strategy quickly. And, oddly, though Omri has had his struggles from the stripe, I had a great feeling about each of those shots. There's something about Omri, some burgeoning swagger that leaks out in grimaces and chest pounds, but still somehow feels like it's being kept in check by an invisible lid. All this spirit we see from Casspi, and it's just the surface. This well runs deep.

Star-divide

The first quarter was a rather brilliant span of basketball for Sacramento, resulting in a 33-20 lead. The Kings defended well, holding N.J. to those 20 points over 25 possessions. A key was keeping the Nets off the offensive boards -- the Kings gave up two N.J. offensive rebounds in 14 opportunities in the first. That was the biggest difference between the first and the third, where New Jersey tallied nine offensive rebounds in 17 opportunities -- just a ridiculous number. One other second half problem was that the Kings didn't grab a single offensive rebound in the third or fourth quarters, a shocking finish given how good the Kings have been on the offensive glass this season. (Jason Thompson didn't have a single offensive rebound all game. Only Spencer Hawes -- with two -- had more than one among all Kings. Josh Boone had five, Chris Douglas-Roberts had three.)

Speaking of Douglas-Roberts: he's the reason Donte Greene received only six minutes in the second half. Greene didn't play poorly -- he's just not quick enough to guard two-guards like CD-R, and that seemed like a real problem with this particular starting line-up once Devin Harris warmed up his engine. (Harris was awful in the first half, great in the third, OK in the fourth.) Tyreke Evans (another great game, with 21 points on 18 shooting possessions, and eight rebounds) had trouble staying in front of the lightning quick Harris on a few consecutive possessions, and with Lopez demanding attention in the paint, CD-R was able to go one-on-one with The Show, and CD-R won. That resulted in a second half full of two- and three-PG line-ups. Thankfully, both Beno Udrih (21 on 12) and Sergio Rodriguez (six points, three assists, one turnover) played well. In the paint, Kenny Thomas eventually got his shot (after Sean May stunk up the joint in relief of the sore Hawes) at Lopez, and K-9 did fantastic work.

None of that good work matters, of course, if Omri misses a couple free throws to validate Frank's strategy. But the kid has swag, and it showed.

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Good win

Caption for the photo: “Brook Lopez can’t bear to look on as Omri Casspi drains two more of his 18 points in route to another Kings win.”

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 6:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I prefer:

“Brook Lopez attempts to block Omri Casspi’s shot with his mutant forehead-arm.”

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Nov 28, 2009 7:13 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Omri is a winner

He strikes me as being the type of player who could be 0 for the three point line during a game, but would still have the stones to launch that critical three late in a game, more than likely making it.. Or, like last night, stick the free throws when it matters even though his free throw shooting for the year has been less than stellar.

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by outrider on Nov 28, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Masterful and courageous coaching from Westphal

Keeping Omri in – later laughing that he never even considered pulling him out (cough cough) shows that he’s not just thinking about winning today – he’s planning for winning many more games tomorrow.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was never really worried when NJ made thier runs

I may be recovering from the scars of previous seasons.

NOTE: We had a much easier time than did Portland with these guys.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

An excellent piece ziller.

There’s something about Omri, some burgeoning swagger that leaks out in grimaces and chest pounds, but still somehow feels like it’s being kept in check by an invisible lid. All this spirit we see from Casspi, and it’s just the surface. This well runs deep.

Great stuff.

by Ichiban on Nov 28, 2009 8:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I read that and felt the same way. Stellar piece of writing, you captured some Omri there.

well written summary. rec’d.

This really was an up and down affair. Tighter than the box score indicates. Sacramento lost the 3rd quarter by 2 but that after finding a way to make it close the last two minutes – Thank you Beno, thank you Sergio. To me, that was the turning point of the game. When Sacramento let it get close, as RJ and Grant mentioned on the TV side, the bench got involved and the Nyets went from playing head down – we are losers, no Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence to a new found will to fight, which they maintained through out the game.
On the Kings side the mid-third quarter had Coach Westphal throwing player combinations out there like a man bailing out a sinking ship. Hence, the Sean of May. The guy is game rusty, asking him to come in and provide instant energy and direction is not in his skill set. He needs more time or no time.
Beno’s offense has been clutch. He literally took over the game for the Kings. Tyreke, the rookie, was much too ball dominant (an ESPN term) and with K9, Brockman, Sergio and Casspi there were not enough options on offense and it stuttered and died, credit NJ defense for closing him off.
Beno gets the Offense game ball
Kenny Thomas the Defense game ball (though I though Spencer’s absence was a bigger factor)
Casspi gets the team spirit award.
It was a game that was a cold threat to lose but afterwards a no sweat win.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since when is "ball dominant" an ESPN term?

It’s a basketball term used by scouts. I wouldn’t give ESPN credit for anything original in the last 15 years or so.

Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com

by The Czar on Nov 28, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ok

just repeating where I heard it. All of the scouts I know are boys.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We did miss Spence

In the second half, I thought he played a great first half, aggressive on offense, hitting the boards, blocking two shots. I don’t think NJ would have been able to dominate the boards if he played the second half.

by MichaelMack on Nov 28, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

we just doubled the wins against Eastern Conference we had last year!

"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan

Go Kings!

by Panzerfaust on Nov 28, 2009 8:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The bench was the difference in this game.

Omri was awesome. Udrih was very good coming in off the bench, but my favorite contribution was Kenny Thomas’.

Kings don’t win this game if Kenny Thomas doesn’t steady the ship when he comes in. Hawes was hurt and they needed a rebounder that could play some defense. Sean May should never see the court again in a competitive game. He was absolutely putrid and it was like he was trying to give the game away. The hand grenade he threw at the bottom of the backboard followed by the Devin Harris “thank you, I’ll take that” steal was the scariest part of this game. The Nets looked confident, May looked embarrassed, as he should have, and I couldn’t figure out why Westphal had him out there. May looked unprepared to play and if that is the type of effort that he is going to give them, it’s time to just cut him loose.

Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com

by The Czar on Nov 28, 2009 8:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i agree...

someway, somehow, K-9 has come up big in games he’s been in. of course, PW has been trying to get playing time for his younger guys as he knows that K-9 will most likely not be with the team at season’s end. sean may though has not come up with anything but slowed down the tempo when he’s in. he’s definitely a half court guy and he surely is not strong enough to hold his own; either he lacks knowledge or skills and he’s not superb in the other section either. he’s been a bust as always and i don’t think he’ll ever come to form unless he actually gives basketball to come naturally instead of force.

by blowfishee on Nov 28, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sean May should never see the court again?

Hmmmm, sounds a lot like what we were saying about, say, K-9, or Donte, or even Beno? What you are forgetting is that this coaching staff seems very capable of getting the best out of their players. And that early this season, May was playing some decent ball. And that May and Donte have played the same number of games. Before you decide a guy’s career is over, give him maybe a full healthy season at least. He has the skill set; he just isn’t playing good ball right now. But that could easily change as the coaches work with him and he gets in better shape.

"Shut up and Coach!"
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by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

Not only that but he didn’t play for a few games. Rust is rust and some players need consistent minutes to be effective. Even a run of 6 to 8 minutes is better than nothing. I wouldn’t put him in the doghouse just yet since some of our rookies made even worse mistakes during losses.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I said "in a competitive game"

May was unprepared to come into that game. I don’t care how rusty he was. He was just flat not prepared to be in there and it almost cost them the game.

Yes, I think he is taking up roster space right now. He hasn’t looked good at all this season, so I don’t know when you saw him play “decent ball.” It just hasn’t happened. Everyone wants to blame Martin for this 1-4 start as we see in other threads, but how about pointing toward Mason and May starting those first games. That was a HUGE factor in those losses as they were almost non-existent out there. If he had been playing decent ball, he wouldn’t be the 12th man on the bench. A role that is in serious danger for him when Martin and Garcia return. He will get more of a shot tonight if Hawes is out and he better look a lot better than he did in the Nets game. I stand by my comments that May doesn’t belong in a competitive game, but he may be forced into the situation tonight. He doesn’t even offer the value of an expiring contract like Kenny Thomas and is nothing more than roster filler at this point. I would be shocked if he finishes the season with this club.

Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com

by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Partially agree on K-9's performance.

Kings don’t win this game if Kenny Thomas doesn’t steady the ship when he comes in.

I’d add Beno to this equation. He made big shots when we the Nets were within 6. Beno and K-9 were definitely key to the victory.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Trend?

I have noticed that the game tends to slow down with the starters in it. They tend to use up most of the clock and then have to rush. There is really little to no transition basketball being played and few fast break opportunities even when they do get a rebound. The game is OK for a while, but then it just gets sluggish.

I am not sure what causes it, but it seems that they tend to start losing momentum. Then they bring in the bench players and the game picks up. Tempo increases and transition play increases. Seems to breath life back into the team and scoring increases. So much so last night that PW left the bench players in and they took over the game.

I think a lot of this may be size. We have started the last couple games with big guys and sub’ed with smaller and quicker PGs. It seems like there really is two different line ups and PW can field a pretty diverse range of offensive sets. I just wish he wouldn’t wait for so long before going smaller and faster, but at least we are seeing more screens.

by MustangMBS on Nov 28, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It depends on who's bringing up the ball

After made baskets, I always worry that Tyreke isn’t going to get over the time line in time. While Sergio and even Beno, have already started the offense in the same time it takes Tyreke to get the ball over the line.

And, it takes Tyreke longer to initiate the play. Causing him to sometimes dribble the ball too much. I think he’s trying to be too careful, rather then not being sure what he wants to do. An example would be the turnover for not getting the ball in play in 5 secs.

After defensive rebounds the Kings seem to move the ball quickly enough. All the guards are making some quick long passes for easy fastbreak points. The Kings had 25 fast break points in the NJ game.

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by HighTops on Nov 28, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Omri makes me want to be a better person.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Nov 28, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You think Omri went to the line thinking

“I was an Israeli sniper, and this little leprechaun man thinks this will scare me?!”

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by vfettke on Nov 28, 2009 10:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

first off, Omri Casspi was not an Isreali sniper. And the world would be a better, safer place knowing that.

That said, I don’t think Omri is scared of anything other than he won’t get the opportunity to show he will give it his best. He takes “put me in the game, Coach” to a whole new level.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God for "the Drano"

        I have been to every home game except one and seen that one home game and all the road games on tv. Thank God for Beno, Kenny, and Omri last night. They were all clutch. This team is starting to turn into something special and I am starting to believe the glass is almost 3/4 full and maybe playoffs??? Ok there were some years of microdot in there and some of the neurons are still connecting (“the blue bus is calling us, come on baby and take a chance with us and meet me at the back of the blue bus”), but this team will keep us interested in the playoff picture until the very end.
       But I can not get the Kevin Martin situation out of my head. When the ball is in Evans hands, the plays seem to slow down and stagnate. Not quite Salmons or Artest. But when the ball is in Beno’s and Sergio’s hands, the ball moves and everything is quicker and smoother. I am still not convinced that Evans is our point guard of the future and nor does he have to be. I am convinced he is our combo guard of our future and needs and will work best with a player like Beno at the point. He skill sets are more like Wade’s than Paul’s and there is nothing wrong with that. Having said that, I believe he needs to be at the 2 guard spot and we do not need a superstar (although it would be nice) at the point guard spot. If Beno plays like he has this year and his first year here, Evans and him will be fine. I do believe that facts speak for themselves with Evans and Martin with a record of 1-4 versus a record of Beno and Evans at 6-4. I am by no means blaming Martin, I just believe the team functions better with Evans at the 2 guard spot.
     Martin is a tremendous asset on this team. If Green and Omri keep playing the way they have been playing (how is it that PW rescued KT, Beno, and “the Show” from the dead at the same time?) then Petrie has the assets to make a move. To me, Martin may be that asset. Omri and Green may be your starting SF of the future so that spot is filled.
I am interested in others thoughts on this.
        
      

by noreboundsnorings on Nov 28, 2009 10:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Evans is a rookie, the season is 14 games in

Coach Westphal and his staff have begun to recussitate a dying team. This team has life; this has quickened the pulse and opened the eyes of us all.

This team is riding a good wave right now, look at NJ, NY, Minny – are the Kings really more talented than those squads? Coaching has been the difference, in my opinion.

As for talent: The future is still ahead. IF Greene and Omri continue to develop… they will, but to what level? The Kings are at minimum two seasons away from being significant, IMHO. That is two more drafts, two more years to mature, contracts expiring, FA signings, trades – exciting times await.

Kevin Martin is an asset. You can’t judge how he effects this team until he is back on the floor for 20 games. If you can get a near All-Star or better for him, than so be it.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of young talent on this roster
look at NJ, NY, Minny – are the Kings really more talented than those squads?

uh – yes, yes they are.

Especially with KM and Cisco back.

As for the playoffs? No, I don’t think thats in reach. If the kids can stay within shouting distance of 500 until Martin gets back? Hmf – maybe, with some help from others.

I honestly believe though that we’re one more good big man from some playoff series.

Are the less experienced Casspi and Donte’ less gifted than than Portland’s Batum, Outlaw and even LMA? I don’t see that they are.
Do we have a shooting guard (absent) who can outscore/outplay BRoy? I think we do.
Do we have the PG play we need in that committee? I’d say yes.
Can we match up with the smaller 4s is the league – yep.

Interior play though – its a big hole – or at least a ditch.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am a proud Kings fan but to satirize a cliché re:lttg

the Kool-Aid is strong in that one

and to reverse the talent question a bit: If this Kings team was coached by Lawrence Frank, Mike D’Antoni or Kurt Rambis do you think their record would be the same, better or worse?
If Paul Westphal coached any of these 3 teams (do you realize that they are a combined: 4-44!) do you think their records would be so dismal?

Some matches work (Ric Ocasek and Paulina Porizkova) even though they are surprising. The NBA is chock full of talent. It is the ability to get the most out of that talent that makes this current Kings team special. This team is not, yet anyway, Blazers level talented, not close. But love the passion.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Will there be a better 3 pt shooting team in the league

when Martin and Cisco are back? Top 5 for sure.
We’re top 10 in scoring now, top 10 in rebounding and in the top 1/2 in defense (which is getting better).
Name me the top 8 guys on NY, NJ, Minn., Okl, Charlotte, Memphis, Utah, LAC and make a case that those guys are better than ours long term.

I think right now, if we could get there we have a shot at winning a 7 game series. Take out the top 5 West teams, LA, Den, Phx, SA and Dallas.

I can make a case that the Kings healthy could beat Utah, Port, Okl, Nol, GS, Minn, LAC, and Houston. The top 3-4 being tough outs of course.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True. @eyes and lie

I think what separates Portland from the Kings is Greg Oden, LA and B-Roy. Oden’s post game is more advanced than Hawes and JT’s. LaMarcus is streaky as hell but he’s unstoppable when he’s on. I don’t see the Kings’ bigs having as much offensive punch as Portland’s bigs.

It’s arguable that a two-headed threat of Kevin and Tyreke is better than B-Roy, but I think B-Roy’s experience in last year’s close series with the Rockets has made him elevate his game to near Super Star status. Not only that, but Brandon Roy has proven to be one of the best clutch finishers in the game. The verdict on ’Reke’s ability to finish games is still out and Kevin has struggled in his clutch opportunities. But it’s a whole new season and a whole new system for Kevin to operate in so lord knows just how great he can be in this new and improved Kings squad.

@lie – I agree. A healthy Kings squad could definitely hang with OKC, NOR, GS, MIN, LAC and Houston. However, I think Portland and Utah can beat us in 6 or 7 games when they play their best ball. I hope I’m wrong though.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LMA is overrated

not saying he’s not a good player but i want a PF who grabs some rebounds and plays better D around the basket.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 12:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just say extension


and it shall be done.

There's nothing to fear but everything.

by elfboy_ on Nov 29, 2009 2:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What's the past tense for "scam?" Is it "scrumped?"

by swoosh91 on Nov 29, 2009 3:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Evans and Martin
I do believe that facts speak for themselves with Evans and Martin with a record of 1-4 versus a record of Beno and Evans at 6-4.
Kevin Martin is an asset. You can’t judge how he effects this team until he is back on the floor for 20 games. If you can get a near All-Star or better for him, than so be it.
Do we have a shooting guard (absent) who can outscore/outplay BRoy? I think we do.

Actually Tyreke is already putting up similar numbers to Roy, no matter what you want to call him.

The Kings face three key decisions: how to shore up the front line, what do about the backcourt and deciding what to do at SF. They are probably all going to be inter-related; if the play of Omri and Greene make Nocioni unneeded, he’ll be shipped out. Ditto with Evans and Martin, although I agree we should see how they work out before drawing any firm conclusions.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I read on hoopshype

a while back a rumor that the celtics dream trade would be Ray Allen for Kevin Martin & Andres Nocioni. It sounds like BS but that would give us the cap room to sign a max 2010 player. Or you know Rick Adelman would love to have Kevin back maybe KM for T-Mac? Me personally I say we keep Kev & let him be our jason terry or Manu & explode off the bench dropping 30-40 points per against teams second units that would be scary for opposing teams

by allbenji's on Nov 28, 2009 11:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Martin won't come off the bench.

Maybe for the first two or three games when he is cleared to play. But not as a sixth man. Never. No way. Not even remotely within the realm of possibility.

Why would we trade him for someone else’s has-been? And don’t say Cap Space, because nobody really believes that we can be big players in the FA market this summer. Those guys don’t want to play here.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely right

Only a sign and trade could bring someone and that is unlikely.

And yes, I bet that would be the Celtics dream trade. I’m not that interested in thier dreams though.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When did Kevin develop an A.I. ego?

I havn’t seen it. In my opinion(which might mean nothing) Kevin wants to win & if that means as a sixth man I don’t see him oposing that. He would still be our best player but who wants to be the best player on a bad team besides A.I.? And I never said I would do that trade just brought it up.

by allbenji's on Nov 28, 2009 1:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Who mentioned ego?

I think Martin would do what the coach asked him to do if it meant making the team better.

I just don’t think Westphal is stupid enough to believe that bringing Martin off the bench makes the team better.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Different yes - better? No way.

People have got to recover and realize that the last year or two just wasn’t Martin’s fault.
Isn’t it obvious now how litle help he had? How little depth the team had?

I just think we should worry about this for another 30 days.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(sigh)

Not worry

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My Kevin Martin take

He’s going to have to do a Nocioni and do less but do less with excellence. After Martin’s absence we learned the Kings can win and score without Kevin Martin. He’s not going to have the same do-all-the-scoring role before the injury. If the Kings do well in December and early January than he’s going to have to adjust even more.

by Kevin.S on Nov 28, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You do understand

We’re not going to be a playoff team this year, right?

So, once again, with feeling, Kevin Martin is one of the three best players on the team, and arguably the most efficient scorer in the league. I don’t want him to change anything about his game. I want him to come back, play the way he has been playing, and make us better.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Kings were 1-4 with Martin and 6-4 without

The guy’s going to have to adjust his role as the blackhole scoring void on the team. I don’t think the Kings are a playoff team but I’ll wait to the start of January before declaring their future. After January the Kings have an easy schedule and if they’re .500 they can make the playoffs.

by Kevin.S on Nov 28, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really

You describe Kevin Martin as “the blackhole scoring void”? That’s not just extreme, it’s ridiculous.

by MichaelMack on Nov 28, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're an idiot if you think Kevin Martin makes the Kings worse

Oh wait, you’re an idiot anyway.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

You’re right. I’m wrong about everything. :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, to be fair

Pookey has been right about one and only one thing.

You are an idiot.

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by ForThree on Nov 28, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Zinger!

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.instantrimshot.com/

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by Bluejohn on Nov 28, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rimshot.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fairness is not allowed

This is StR.

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by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially when you remember we only allow opinions that we completely agree with

No dissension whatsoever!

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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree!

\irony

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

uh oh

irony police incoming, all underage posters finish those beers and ruuuun!

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by ForThree on Nov 28, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is 58% true shooting a "black hole?"

And one thing that has always been mentioned about Martin is how quietly he goes about scoring his 25-30 points.

I do not see how Kevin Martin will have trouble adjusting to the team (or vice-versa) upon his return. He’s always been a top flight teammate with no ego or arrogance about him.

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by section214 on Nov 28, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can see some difficulty ahead

But I think Martin will adjust and he maybe so fragile that it could not be even an issue.

by Kevin.S on Nov 28, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's called soft

If you’re going to make moronic statements at least use the correct terms. Jeez!

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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm saying he's fragile that's different than soft

The guy’s prone to getting injured. I have a lot sympathy for the guy.

by Kevin.S on Nov 28, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Martin might not have been the only factor

in those first four losses.

Factors could include things like starting a rookie point guard with our first three games on the road under a brand new coach without Garcia, not to mention the fact that we’re widely considered by anyone with any basketball knowledge to not be a playoff team this year.

But if you want to blame Martin, who was averaging more than 30 ppg, with 50% of his makes assisted (meaning he didn’t have the ball in his hands the whole posession, dribbling, dribbling…) that’s your call.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate players that average over 30ppg

Especially when over half their FG’s are assisted. Plus, his defense was WAY better than it ever had been in the past. What a loser.

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They should all be thrown from the league

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's too fragile to be expected to continue to average 30 ppgs

You’re talking about Michael Jordan type numbers and the guy wasn’t going to be Michael Jordan anyway

by Kevin.S on Nov 28, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

23-5 is just fine

Grant Hill has barely missed a game in 4 years after a rough injury start.

You never know

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Grant didn't miss many games in his time in Detroit though

I’m impressed Grant has recovered from those injuries. Grant HIll is one of the great stories in the history of the NBA all told.

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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And given what Kevin's paid

He’s not exactly killing this team’s cap like Michael Redd is with the Bucks.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord

It’s one thing to say that the team has played well without Martin in the lineup, but that is not proof that the team is better without Kevin in the lineup. How in the world do you know we wouldn’t have been 8-2 with a healthy Kevin the last ten games?

The Kings won four straight without Kevin, and this idiocy about being better without him cropped up. Then the team loses four in a row, and all is quiet from the Kevin naysayers. Then we win two games in a row at home over arguably the two worst teams in the league, and it’s back to the Kevin bashing. It’s ridiculous.

by otis29 on Nov 28, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   4 recs

Arguably?

What’s arguable about the Knicks & Nets sucking major chunks?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wise words Otis. Wise words.

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 10:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Otis wise?

Nah. Not possible.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I choose to think

That the Kings were 1-4 with Sean May and Desmond Mason starting.

It is unfair and stoooopid to place that all on Martin. The team needed scoring from him because they basically had two holes on the offensive end that gave them next to nothing at the beginning of the season. PW had the good sense to know that neither project was working and scrapped it. Unfortunately for Martin, he didn’t really get a chance to start with Hawes or run with Casspi and Nocioni enough to see how he would have played with those options out there AND Tyreke in the game next to him.

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by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone PLEASE explain to me

Why we would trade either our best or second best player, who is locked in to a ling term deal well below market value, in a salary dump? He has not asked to leave, complained or caused internal problems. There is not a player with KM’s skillset that is paid less (rookie structured contracts don’t count).

These “trade Kevin for (expiring contract player)” ideas are just plain stupid.

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

somehow

I think we’ll manage to find a way to get Kevin his 15 or so shot a night so he can score 24ppg. That might be useful to us, maybe, sort of.

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by ForThree on Nov 28, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh! Pick me! I know the answer to this one!

A. Because they don’t understand basketball
B. Because Kevin Martin ran over their dog
C. Because they have a mancrush on another player
D. All of the above.

D.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A is actually my favorite answer, just by itself

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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

F. Just a Troll

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all in favor of the 10 man rotation though

especially with a smaller versatile team.

Kepp running guys at them

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now I get it!

If we salary dump KM, we can sign 2-3 players to the MLE!

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think only 1 1/2 fit into the MLE under his salary

so K-9 is the 1/2. Who is the other half-ass?

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ike Diogu!

Ike Diogu does not sleep. He waits.

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ike Diogu is so great that he is on Nawlinz injury list at the moment

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Inactive list I mean

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hack-a-Jew strategy

Funny, I was waiting for the term to be coined on the broadcast and surprising it didn’t happen . . .

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by bignerd on Nov 28, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

I was holding the Rockin’ the Casspi sign.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Wouldn’t it be nice to have sign lady post here?

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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Her posts

would be shorter than most people’s sig lines.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you averaged her posts

With mine, they would still be well above average for word length.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

your average with Sign Lady would be above average

but still longer than Sign Lady averaging with Tolstoy (collected works)

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would anyone “coin” that term? It was a stupid thing to say in the first place.

by FreshStart on Nov 29, 2009 7:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To get away from piling on & torching kevin.s

should we take it as good news there’s no news about Spencer’s knee? Anyone heard anything?

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by ForThree on Nov 28, 2009 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Per Kings twitter

Link

Spencer and JT did not practice today. Hawes is questionable for tomorrow (bruised right knee) and JT is probable (bruised lower back)

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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad JT didn't practice

I hope he’s okay in a week. That was a nasty fall.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure the Kings can beat Nawlinz without Shawes

Although, I understand why the Kings are calling Spence questionable.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just want Brockness vs Okafor

Of course, PW might go with May vs Okafor in which case we are truly screwed.

There's nothing to fear but everything.

by elfboy_ on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Shwang Wang wang

I hope they get better soon

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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Omri’s free throws at the end really iced the game. I think that Westphal’s strategy of leaving him in was great; that must have been a huge confidence builder for Omri.

I think the most telling moment, which certainly caused Omri to swagger, was when they stopped hacking him. In essence, the Nets sent the message to Omri “You beat us.”

by DirtyDribblers on Nov 28, 2009 5:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think they are only allowed to hack-a-someone

outside of the last 2 minutes of the game, that’s why they stopped. Otherwise, spot on about PW trusting Omri and building his confidence.

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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is why

Even Napear mentioned that is the rule on the broadcast.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but at that point in the game regardless of the rule

Omri had showed the hackers it was a flawed strategy. I thought there was two big lessons from the hacking deal. First, it was awesome for PW to let him play through it, reminiscent of when they let him shoot the T. Second, maybe the bigger lesson to Omri is; better get those free throws going in or it’s going to be happening many times more.

There was a guy from Israel on the ESPN game chat that said that in Isreal and the Euroleague Omri was at least a 70% ft shooter and he didn’t understand why the kid was struggling from the stripe. Hopefully by the All-Star break, Omri’s free throw miseries will be a distant memory and while he may never be as good a free thrower as Kevin Martin we won’t see this strategy again.

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by Bluejohn on Nov 28, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Relaxation techniques?

Casspi apparently is draining them in practice. I wonder if he is getting so amped up in the game that he can’t relax himself at the line. He seemed to slow himself down and really focus when the Nets intentionally fouled him. Maybe he needs a pre-shot routine, like golfers.

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by section214 on Nov 28, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe some sweet tunes

You know, like Dirk singing Hasselhoff’s songs before making FTs

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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he loses form cuz he's so amped up

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What problem?

Casspi has made 14 of his last 21 free throws (67%) after missing 12 of his first 15 in the league. I think he made some adjustments to his approach and it has paid off.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

67% is not a high fT % when you have a guy shooting 40+% from 3 CC

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thinks its mostly 'too amped up'

but partially just not a great FT form he’ll probably have to discard and rebuild. When he does – 80%.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on all counts

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Omri in shooting clutch FTs is already better

than he was earlier in the year. Remember the home game vs Thunder?

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by elfboy_ on Nov 29, 2009 2:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

I forgot all about the Thunder.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 3:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They play in Kansas City right?

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by Aykis16 on Nov 29, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No I think they play in Omaha

Not sure though.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's the Free Throw Hulk

“YOU WON’T LIKE MY FREE THROWS WHEN I’M ANGRY!”

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by Aykis16 on Nov 28, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

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