Sacramento's Point Guards, 2008-09 vs 2009-10
by Ziller on Nov 28, 2009 10:00 AM PST
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A quick survey of Sacramento's point guard play last season, in comparison (err, in contrast) with this year's play at the position. Remember that PER has 15 set as the league average.
2008-09
Beno Udrih, 12.3 PER
Bobby Jackson, 12.4 PER
Bobby Brown, 7.7 PER
2009-10
Tyreke Evans, 17.4 PER
Beno Udrih, 16.2 PER
Sergio Rodriguez, 18.3 PER
The head of the dragon does a lot to dictate where the body goes. Clearly, this year's version has been a huge improvement.
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I'm pretty sure
that Tyreke is not a true point guard.
And that Eric Maynor > Tyreke Evans
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Nov 28, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Maynor is not even comparable talent wise. Just step away from the opium.
by MustangMBS on Nov 28, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
whoosh
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
by ForThree on Nov 28, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm fail?
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Nov 28, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rigghhhht...
I was going to say step away from the bong, but dude you must be smoking something much heavier duty. Crack anyone? We have a Germany variety in stock.
Seriously, how can you compare somebody who score 6 points, a few assists, and fewer rebounds in 15 minutes to a Tyreke Evans. Get real.
by MustangMBS on Nov 28, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mustang let me help out
a running joke on these boards for the last few weeks has been Eric Maynor > everything.
The entire point was not to “get real” you can probably find 200 posts with Eric Maynor > “something ridiculous”, if you look around.
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by ForThree on Nov 28, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Panzer
Failure on the part of the reader. I don’t know how I missed that on previous boards…
Thanks ForThree!
by MustangMBS on Nov 28, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The part that cracks me up when you said there was German crack available
Panzer’s Italian.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Learn something new every day.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
An Italian is a lucky German tank. Who knew?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The nickname
comes from my true name, which is Fausto.
The true meaning of Panzerfaust is, anyway, this:
Panzerfaust
It’s also a title of a Darkthrone’s album.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Nov 29, 2009 4:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew this
But only because I played too much Call of Duty back in the day.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 29, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool!
Like MBS, I learned something. Thanks Panzer.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Eric Maynor is StR’s version of Chuck Norris.
by otis29 on Nov 28, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Kevin Pritchard have Maynor locked up in his trunk too?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He better
because the Blazers got blown out again tonight and blazersedge is going nuts
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hah, funny stuff
Talk over there of benching Roy and LMA, firing Nate, etc. Yeah, they are going nuts.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A team that is 12-7, ie on a 52 win pace.
Firmly in 5th place and only 2.5 games out of 1st in the West. Yeah, I think they may be over reacting just a bit.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think the Blazers do have some problems but talking about benching Roy and LMA is insane.
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They over-react
To EVERYTHING.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if they are tired of Roy
they can ship him to us. His stats are almost identical to Tyreke’s.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That ain't happening
Also, I wonder how effective Roy & Reke would be together.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly he's not fitting in with Miller
don’t think it’d work with Reke
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Miller's job to fit in with him
Roy is by far the best player on the squad. Frankly, I have no idea why Miller is even on that team.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With
Blazers FO made a big mistake IMO. They had money and felt like they had to spend it.
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I think that's it myself
They wanted to make the move when they still had cap space. But, why make a move when you don’t have to?
Sometimes too much is too much, and I think that’s the case here. But, a lot of Portland fans swore up & down they needed to make a move.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Pritchard's rep screwed them a bit
He’s regarded as such a great GM and after missing on Hedo and Millsap he might’ve felt pressure to do somthing, anything.
He just went for the next available FA and Miller was right there for them to overpay.
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I know
My point is that they never needed Hedo or Millsap. They got greedy because they could. But did they ever need any of those players? Hell no they didn’t.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blake's underrated
and then they have Sergio Rodriguez. Oh, wait a minute …
I seem to recall pining for Sergio when he was on the Blazers. I’ll have to go back and see if I can find those posts. But I wasn’t too enthralled with his play for the Kings until he started to attack the basket and shoot the open 3s and became more than just a pass-first PG.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blake isn't underrated
He’s the right kind of player that fits with Roy. Miller is a far superior player to Blake, but Roy is far more comfortable with Blake because Blake plays the way that make Roy comfortable.
It’s a bit stupid really, but it’s a lot of shoving a square peg into a round hole. What I think Portland should have done was use their cap room plus maybe Blake to get Kirk Hinrich. Still do actually.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good call
Hinrich would work very well there.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It don't take a PhD to figure that out Kfan.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well I hadn't thought of it
though I don’t spend any time thinking about the Blazers, that and I don’t have a PHD.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably smarter than a majority of the PhD's anyway
Don’t feel bad.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a nice thing to say
but be careful, you’ll ruin your reputation.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm widely considered an asshole by all concerned
I have nothing to lose.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the reputation you are in danger of losing
Some might come to think you actually have a heart.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2009 1:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck that
I have no heart.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 2:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2009 2:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And before people jump me over the previous comment
There were rumors at the trade deadline that Portland was interest in Hinrich, but wanted more than what they wanted to give up (not surprising).
There was a story around draft time that basically said that Nate McMillan and Tom Penn had to keep Kevin Pritchard and Paul Allen from going crazy and buying up draft picks and what not. That there was too much as was, and that the team needed to cool it.
So, while it doesn’t take a PhD to figure out that Hinrich would fit better with Roy in a lot of ways, it also would take the guts of Portland’s FO to take that kind of risk with Hirnich’s long term money on the cap and what not.
I’m not sure they wanted to do that. Yet, they were so willing to sign Andre Miller? I don’t get it.
Then again, I didn’tt get a lot of the things Pritchard has done during the 2009 FA market.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller may be more of a stats guy
But Blake is a better PG and player in the same way that Shane Battier is an effective player. He does the things that need to be done. In other words, he’s kind of the Jon Brockman of point guards.
Speaking of Brockman, did you see that nifty kickout to Beno for the three in crunch time? Pretty.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We found our pure PG
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
I guess that makes him 5th or sixth on the depth chart.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But does that also make him
‘not a true 5’?
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by edm7 on Nov 29, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's a true 4
who plays some 5 and may now get a look at 1 :)
Between that pass and the job he did guarding Nate Robinson, it’s been a helluva audition.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 29, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes CC I saw Brockman's pass
And there is no way in hell that you can compare Steve Blake to Shane Battier for any number of reason’s. One is that Blake couldn’t play defense if you stapled his ass to the guy he was guarding. Two, he’s so perfect for Roy because he plays off the ball and can shoot the 3.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that would be a nice problem to have
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not necessarily something that would work
Reke & Roy need the ball in their hands to be effective. It wouldn’t work at all.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I always go back to
when I think about Kevin coming back and working with Reke. Speed doesn’t really need the ball in his hands to be effective. He did last year becaus we didn’t have options.
This year, he can concentrate on runnig through screens, cutting to the basket, and spoting up to shoot it. Of course, it’s up to the coaching staff to make it work
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And to Reke to actually run the offense effectively
People forgot that Reke just didn’t run the offense that well when Kevin was in the game (or wasn’t)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
He did last year becaus we didn’t have options.
And his play suffered because of it, well that and the ankle. But he was much more effective the year before, when Ron-Ron was taking the most shots, and the year before that when he was the third option after Bibby and Ron.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I think Tyreke welcomes a little break from being the primary ballhandler at times. It’s the pause that refreshes. Roy only needs the ball in the last five minutes.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're welcome to disagreement
But I think you’re living in fantasyland because the idea tickles your fancy. It’s much harder in reality to make that reality fly.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am an information ninja :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol. I got it, Panz. I got it.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have painfully discovered sarcasm always fails
unless you use this (sarcasm).
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
by Bluejohn on Nov 28, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you being sarcastic?
I think you are because you used (sarcasm), but I don’t get it.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
maybe I should have used
a double (sarcasm)
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
by Bluejohn on Nov 29, 2009 1:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(sarcasm)²?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2009 1:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait that's Gasol?
I could have sworn that was another picture of Teen Wolf.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn't he in that Twilight movie?
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by section214 on Nov 28, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Hmmm, just don't see the resemblance
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
But he's not sparkly.
I heard vampires are sparkly.
StR Token Female
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd SB
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by section214 on Nov 28, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, no rec for good ol Cloudyeyes? :( I came up with the idea, you know. :(
by CloudyEyes on Nov 29, 2009 12:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just for you
rec
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 29, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yours is the pass that set up the pass
Kind of like a middle reliever.
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by section214 on Nov 29, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't the Gasol brothers destroying their marketability with the whole not-shaving thing?
I wouldn’t want some bedraggled player speaking for my company, especially when there are so many other options out there.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Nov 28, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Yes, the Lakers should think about replacing Gasol with someone that doesn’t offend grandpa’s grooming sensibilities.
Perhaps—and there is only the slightest chance of this—Pau thinks that winning championships will do more for his marketability than a well-trimmed goatee.
by DustyG on Nov 29, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ughh, try again, The 3Bs are long forgotten (4Bs if you count Beuno Beno and Bad Beno)
they have gone the way of Reggie and Kenny Natt
Good riddance
by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Evans
R-Man are you still good with our gentleman’s bet where I told you you would be laughed off the board for suggesting trading Tyreke Evans for Anthony Randolph by the end of the season, or are you still holding out hope?
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That bet's not looking so good right now...
… I am happy to say.
I still think Randolph could be a beast, but he has managed to find himself in Nelson’s doghouse again.
by R-Man on Nov 28, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think with a chance Randolph could be decent
And I would consider trading for him but even though the Warriors won’t play him I don’t think they will trade him either.
Maybe we could send K9 and get Turiaf and Randolph or Morrow.
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by Ice_9ine on Nov 28, 2009 12:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Dude has got to
put Some weight.
Doghouse or whatever – he really gets pushed around – and Donte’ s better moments (I can’t believe I’m saying it) look better than Randolphs.
We’ll see of course, its very early for the both.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Donte Greene > Anthony Randolph all day :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:)
That’s okay. I’ve made a few predictions I’m glad to see have not come to pass either.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of: Thabeet's line last night in Portland very nice
9 pts, 6 boards and 3 blks in 18 minutes
[4 fouls]
But finally an actual good game against a good team. But we’re only 15 games in.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thabeet has the defensive potential
But he was way too much of a project for me to support the Kings taking him. Even as much as they needed size, Thabeet wasn’t the answer either.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have thought about Thabeet
If we were drafting 15th or later.
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by Aykis16 on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He may end being top ten
but #2? Doesn’t look like it so far.
its very early in his rookie season – and he’s a big man, th always (usually) take longer to adapt.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two words
Darko Milicic.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Nov 29, 2009 2:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two better words
Benoit Benjamin.
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by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 2:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's Theo Ratliff
Theo wasn’t a bad player. Thabeet is going to have his moments, frankly I think he even fits the Grizzlies well given their 4 ball hogs + Thabeet offensive concept.
The facts are Thabeet has no chance because the Grizzlies are run by unbelievably incompetant people, starting right at the owner and working through the entire front office. Until adults that actually have the foggiest idea how to run an NBA franchise and develop players take over, the Grizzly players have no shot.
If Thabeet had slipped to OKC, I promise you he’d look a lot better. I’m not saying he’d be contending for RoY, but he also wouldn’t be the running joke he is now.
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by ForThree on Nov 29, 2009 6:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Theo Ratliff was - not close to the present, we are talking full past tense - an All-Star
that is Thabust’s other best case scenario (Dikembe being the most common).
For a big man to be effective he has to have BB IQ and quickness. Thabust has some quickness, but he is not fast and does not run the floor, a problem he can work on. The BB IQ is equal parts nature and nurture, IMO. As ForThree states, in the right environment the big kid would start to show some value. Also, I am not all that impressed with his hands, which are average at best.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the organization is pretty incompetent
As much as I try to give them a chance, they make me feel stupid for the chance.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking this earlier and touched on it
Depth. Come January we will be absolutely loaded at the guards and wings – deep, young And talented.
Who’d a thunk it
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And versatile
Don’t forget that one
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Chalking Beno's Play Last Year
To an injured ankle and a coaching staff that didn’t know how to use him. Under PW he looks like the guard I hoped he would become and thank God for it!
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by SeattleRoyalty on Nov 28, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Beno has been terrific. Last nights game when it started to get close Beno came back in and IMO was steady and get them right back on track. Sergio has been very good also.
Tyreke is Not a point guard we all can agree that, and thats ok, because he is great 2 guard( kind of in the mold of Dwade). The future is looking brighter every day, with some trade chips(k9- and yes now Kmart) the 2nd half of the season is gonna be fun.
by sacman on Nov 28, 2009 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
We have already established that without a doubt Tyreke Evans is not a point guard, he’s a 2 guard. Maybe a 3, maybe a 4, and sometimes a 5, but not a PG, no sir. Good call there.
Now let’s trade K-Mart for expiring contracts already.
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
You are rooting for a team that is hoping to get back to .500. Do you really think that because we beat NY and NJ that we don’t need one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA. Nope, with Beno and Evans we certainly don’t need K-Mart anymore. Please!!! What happned to, it doesn’t matter what position you call it, we need good players. This is a team that probably will not make the playoffs. Before he got hurt, K-Mart was scoring, rebounding, and handing out assists along with playing some pretty impressive D. We are NOT trading him. He is at WORST one of our top three players. He has a GREAT contract. He is not a headcase. What will be fun is watching teams try to match up with a line-up of Evans, Martin, Greene, JT, and Hawes, while mixing in and out players like Beno, Garcia, Noc, Casspi, Brock, etc. This is a DEEP team. That is a good thing!
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
'greed. This is a DEEP team and the bench is improving every game.
’Reke and Beno are doing more than fine at the 1.5.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
edm7 was being sarcastic
Tyreke Evans is a PG. Not a prototypical PG, but a PG. He is doing a fantastic job of running the offense, IMO. I would venture to say he is more of a more PG than Beno.
He is not suggesting we trade K-Mart for cap space. Again, sarcasm.
Personally, I prefer sign and trade for Chris Bosh this off-season, if we move K-Mart. As UFA, Bosh can get most money by re-upping with current team. But things are not going well with Raptors. So he signs and agrees to max money deal and trade to us, Raptors get talent back in return. And we add the final piece :)
by bench_blob on Nov 28, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
If you look, I was replying to sacman, not edm7. I get sarcasm . . . sometimes.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unlike me
Savage is a smart and subtle Beast that way.
by MustangMBS on Nov 28, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SB got it blob
He was replying to sacman, not me.
By the way sacman, good post and run. Keep it up!
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who are you telling off?
Because SB was replying to sacman, not ed, who was also replying to sacman.
You can tell because they line up the same on the left. If SB had replied to ed, it would have been slightly indented, as is my reply to you.
Thread 101.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 28, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
okay
LPA and edm7, we are all spending wayyyyyy to much time here to all respond to one post at the exact same minute. :)
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's early afternoon on Saturday
I don’t have enough things to do :)
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, sorry, but like, Ed, SB, JET and you b_b have it wrong
I think if we can trade Vujacic and Farmar and MBenga for KMart it should happen right away.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only if we can get the
rights to Q when he gets back from Turkey. Now there is a REAL PG.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 28, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I'd love to have Vujacic on my team
I could try running onto the court and punch him in the face so many times
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I do not advocate violence
but the machine needs facepuncery.
by mayfieldcol on Nov 28, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Nice word use too. I like it
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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fail
Wade is a PG. Evans is a PG. Stop the madness, height does not dictate what position you play.
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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but Wade is not PG
Wade can handle the ball OK. A play PG in a pinch. He usually will handle in a 1-4 set end of quarters and games, but thats about it. He is not much of creator for his teammates. In fact, even after all his years in the league, he is highly TO prone.
Tyreke is much more a natural facilitator of a half court offense than Wade, and superior ball handler. Wade is much more explosive with first step and natural scorer, i.e. a natural SG.
by bench_blob on Nov 28, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's played 15 games
15.
Can we wait a while longer before charting the course of his career please? Its the hardest position on the court.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why wait
Tyreke is more a PG than SG, thats all I am saying.
His team was 29-0 with him running the point at Memphis, so there’s more to substantiate his ability to play PG than 15 NBA games.
One of my definitions of a PG is being able to maintain dribble below the top of the key, handle the ball in traffic, and find passing angles within the half court offense, bounce passes, cross court, lobs, etc. These are things PGs can do, and SGs struggle to do. Tyreke can do these things.
There are times when you want a PG to dribble the ball, and let the play develop. No one would accuse Steve Nash of being a ball hog, but he will dribble the ball at times enough to let play develop, look to option 1 or 2, and wait to get through screen. A true PG will move ball to where advantage is identified, or breakdown defender to create for himself or teammate. The unselfish mindset is to get the best shot within the play set, whether for himself or teammate. Nash does this. And Tyreke does this, albeit not as well.
Tyreke needs to do better at identifying double teams and traps and moving the ball to weak side. But his teammates need to do better job of flashing when he is trapped. Tyreke is already doing a better job lately of initiating the offense earlier in the shot clock. Overall, I don’t see any indication his best position would be SG. He is too good with the ball in his hands.
by bench_blob on Nov 28, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The definition that matters
I think we can agree that he is mostly playing the PG position now and only some SG. The argument of whether he is a PG or not is pretty meaningless given that he already plays that position.
How can he not be a PG if that is what he plays. OK, if you want to argue about the attributes of a PG versus SG then that is a different argument.
The definition that matters is what position the coach uses him in. PW says he is a PG and that is good enough for me.
by MustangMBS on Nov 28, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Can I rec this more than once?
Well said. A point guard is the player on a team that plays PG.
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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, silly and trite.
Donte Green played shooting guard last night (until PW realized he was not quick enough to guard Douglas-Roberts). Does that mean Donte is a shooting guard? Coach Reggie Theus, in his infinite wisdom, played JT at small forward for 5+ games last year. Does that mean Jason Thompson is a SF?
No, of course not. Based on a players set of athletic and basketball skills, they are best suited to compete and potential excel against players with comparable skills. For JT, this is primarily against opposing PFs, occassional Cs. For Donte, I think PFs without strong post skills are his best match-up, and SFs with average quickness. For Tyreke, PG is his best position because of his ability to break down opposing PGs off the dribble. He can play SG, but is not a classic SG because of his unrefined outside shot.
by bench_blob on Nov 28, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That unrefined outside shot
is looking damn good for the most part, a few air balls excepted.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 28, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Tyreke’s outside shot has been looking smooth. But he is not a classic catch and shoot guy. He is never going to be a volume perimeter shooter. He uses the drive and the threat of the drive to get defenders on their heels to get comfortable looks from outside.
If you want to split hairs, Tyreke is an unrefined shooter, not in regards to shot mechanics, but his ability to make a living from the perimeter. Just not his game.
K-Mart is a brilliant and refined shooter, though his shooting motion looks a bit unorthodox. Though, once the ball is at and above his torso, I think his shot mechanics are flawless.
by bench_blob on Nov 28, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Question B-B
Does it really matter? Given that JT is better on the perimeter, Spencer to an extent, and Kevin’s perimeter abilities (not to mention Noc, Donte & Omri), does it really matter if Tyreke is better getting to the basket?
I think not.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just love
‘Nevers’ after 15 games.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
And you know I’m not a big Thabeet guy, but I think saying he can never be a NBA rotation player after 15-17 games is a bit stupid. (Obviously.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know Harden has a 17.8 PER and is shooting 42% from 3
I don’t know if you used any ‘nevers’, per se, but you have been pretty harsh on him.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2009 1:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Maynor > James Harden
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the criteria is a "refined shot,"
then what is Kevin Martin?
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by section214 on Nov 28, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pocket shot?
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Skew shot?
We need to officially name his jumper.
by mayfieldcol on Nov 28, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blue-light special
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by Aykis16 on Nov 28, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are 5 minutes in 1 game
The same as starting in that position for every game? Come on, your argument is weak. Evans has played PG all year, hence he is a PG. That is quite different from a player playing a different position for a short amount of time.
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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
That was my point. Spot on.
by MustangMBS on Nov 29, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was somehow still responding to sacman way up above
Let the kid play, he got tons of talent, it will work itself out.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As Jerry pointed out in the game last night
There are only a very few ‘pure’ PGs left in the league. Most are scoring ‘lead’ guards nowadays.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 28, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
Some people are defining “PG” by being a brilliant passer (such as Nash and Paul), other players are just floor generals, of which I think Reke is a decent one already. There have been many good to great point guards who were not spectacular passers (um, Mike Bibby anyone?). Paul Westphal in his own career played quite a bit of point despite being a “natural” SG, I think his mentorship will have a lot of impact on Tyreke. It’s not like we need him to be Paul, we have a lot of good to very good ball handlers at every position on the floor.
by MichaelMack on Nov 28, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just change the verbage - let's play newspeak
in place of point guard use “offense initiator”. OI in place of PG. Done.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He does initiate offense, his own offense. There was a sequence last night on a fast break with Nocioni wide open to his right where he try to lay it in instead of dishing. My point is he is going to be an incredible player, he is not a guy whos going to find his teammates on a consistent basis. The offense tends to bog down when hes pounding the rock for 18 secs thats all. But to be a floor general as someone said is a little crazy.
As a season ticket holder, Im not bagging on him I think hes the best thing to happen to us in years, It just drives me crazy when people call him a pg or a floor leader, etc
by sacman on Nov 28, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Starting lineup against the Nets: Reke, Donte, Noc, JT, and Hawes
Who is our pg and floor leader?
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Westphal
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good call
I was wondering why he kept bringing theball up the floor.
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Being ambidexterous is a bitch
So many decisions you know.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's a rookie
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Grist for the mill
Evans has taken 3.25 shots for every assist that he has dished out this year. Meanwhile, fellow “playmaking” rookie point guards Brandon Jennings and Johnny Flynn are averaging 3.34 and 3.44 shots per assist, respectively.
I double checked my math, as I was sure that I was mistaken. How could a guy that is not a true point guard post assist numbers similar (and slightly better) than these two erstwhile prototypical point guards? But alas, my math is correct.
I am vexed.
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by section214 on Nov 28, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Brandon Jennings is an Allen Iverson clone
And, Jonny Flynn has nobody to pass to. But all that matters is that they are pure PG’s like Eric Maynor.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stats boy!!
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by edm7 on Nov 28, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The obvious answer is
Jennings and Flynn are shooting guards too. Duh.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 28, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When I grow up, I wanna be just like you
Naysayers, please argue with facts. Nay, what say you (I’m dizzy). This is a great stat. I will quote you when I use this in the future
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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
too add a little culture: Franz Xaver Messerschmidt, 1775 (easy to postulate, not a fan of Kings)
which is now at the Getty museum, and THAT is a vexed man.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 28, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I read that he did not believe Evans to be a true PG
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by 27freethrows on Nov 28, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haters come from all corners (and centuries)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you were waiting for someone to invent a laxative
you’d be pretty pissed too.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Nov 29, 2009 2:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 2:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for this! And the score is...
section214: 10
‘Tyreke is not a combo guard’ Bandwagon: 0
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Arguing on the internet
solves everything. YES!
by sdfd on Nov 28, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Especially since head coaches read these threads...
- and make important decisions about their squads based on what they read here.
It’s true. It’s damn true.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 28, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The internet is like America, damn it.
Whoever shouts the loudest is the rightest.
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Nov 29, 2009 2:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those who have the Gold
Have the most Gold to sell at Gold retailers.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 2:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reke as a passer
In 29 minutes per game in his only year of college ball, Tyreke averaged 3.9 assists and 3.6 turnovers. So far this year, in 36 minutes per game, he is averaging 4.8 assists to 3.1 turnovers.
That is a pretty big improvement in assist to turnover ratio. I hope we continue to see improvement, as well. He is young and he has improved quite a bit already, so I expect to see more.
I would like to see more intensity from Tyreke, as I feel like I have seen him at high intensity only in spurts. Too Easy.
by DustyG on Nov 29, 2009 12:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Too Easy is a good nickname for him
Because he really looks almost bored out there, chewing his game, never complains about calls, just goes out there and does what he does best, and that is play the game of basketball.
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