Preview: Hornets at Kings
by Ziller on Nov 29, 2009 12:00 PM PST
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A brief Sunday preview.
THE OPPONENT
The Hornets come in resurgent, having won six of 11 and four of five. The victims have been no creampuffs -- the Hawks, the Suns, the Mavericks, the Bucks. Of course, none of those have come on the road. On the road, the Hornets have beaten only one team this season: the Clippers. But in fairness to New Orleans, the Kings are only the second below-.500 team (other than the Clippers) they will have faced away from southern Louisiana (the other being the Knicks -- the Hornets lost there, and Byron Scott lost his head).
Since Chris Paul went down, Darren Collison has stepped in ably. As a starter, he's averaged 15 points and nearly seven assists on decent shooting. He is also reputed as a solid if undersized defender -- he did good work on Steve Nash in their most recent meeting.
Fellow rookie Marcus Thornton isn't starting for Jeff Bower, but he's making a good impact off the bench, now averaging 12 points in 19 minutes on solid shooting efficiency. He is a gunner, taking quite nearly half of his FGAs from behind the arc. He is undersized in comparison with the Kings swingmen, and as I haven't seen Thornton more than about six or seven quarters of play, I can't really tell you how he'll do. He did fine last year in the SEC, which seems like a fairly long, athletic conference. We'll see.
David West remains inconsistent. He shredded Milwaukee on Wednesday, but preceded that with games in which he scored 6, 12 and 13 points. The Hornets need a better David West.
INTERESTING SIDESHOW
LET'S GO NETS! LET'S GO NETS! Nets at Lakers kicks off at 6:30 Pacific. I gather there will be some scoreboard watching at ARCO, and in the Game Thread. It may seem petty, but why would I care what it seems like?
NUMERIC PREDICTION
Kings by 2.
BOLD PROCLAMATION
Jon Brockman earns a Flagrant 1.
DETAILS
The game, and Game Thread, will begin at 6 PM Pacific. Post-game thread at 8:45.
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Maybe I'm just crazy?
But if I had to choose, I would rather the %akers lose tonight against the Nets than the Kings win against NO. Ofcourse, I wish both would happen. That would be a perfect night. O well, I just hate them so much and would love to have Phil so pissed at his team.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lawrence Frank just got fired...it might happen.
Maybe the Nets will get fired up and beat a F*kers team that is playing on a back to back.
Oh wait…the L*kers played a Warriors squad that played more like The Lizzies than the tough gang from Coney Island. All of the L*kers players that don’t have a pinched nerve played some minutes. That ‘Nets beating the L*kers’ part is going to take a small miracle since them yellow bastards are rested.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
The Lizzies almost ended a couple Warriors. How about the Orphans?
"I grok it!" Valentine Michael Smith
by SeattleRoyalty on Nov 29, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Werd!
Wish the Dubs played like the Baseball Furies and put a bat to Pau’s head.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Kings need to start playing like the Riffs
bench Spencer & Beno!
by sdfd on Nov 29, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wish the Kings warm ups were purple Karate gi's like the Riffs' orange unis.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Very Bold Prediction:
Tyreke goes off tonight with 68 points, 10 rebounds and 17 assists to lead all rookies in points, rebs and assists. It could happen. :)
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eh
Too many shots if he scores 68. A “true” PG wouldn’t shoot that much.
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com
by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he had 17
the nay sayers would point to however many turnovers he had.
by Hilton on Nov 29, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Tyreke will eventually lead in points for rookies, even when Martin is back.
I f you look at B Jennings last 3 games (7-22, 3-11, 4-15 shooting), he has been awful with his shot. Teams are playing him different, where the big man is not leaving him on the switches. Tyreke has ran into this but seems to be making the neccessary changes.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or he could just
Be going on a rookie cold streak exactly like Tyreke will. Both of these kids are 20.
by hlebtasic on Nov 29, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke's game is almost cold streak proof
Considering the majority of his points are off of his penatration not jump shots. Not to say he isn’t going to have rough nights where he can’t get to the basket, or the shots at the rim won’t fall; but his game is tailored to stay consistant. With him even if his jump shot isn’t falling (like Jennings isn’t right now) he can still get you 20 points, just when his jumper is going in he can get you 30+
by Gilo424 on Nov 29, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+10. Great point, Gilo.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
where are the naysayers exactly?
I’ve have really only seen a lot of love for Too Easy here since the season started. The only real complaints I’ve read here are that he’s taking too long to bring the ball up and taking too long to initiate the offense. The turnovers are a problem for almost all rooks. especially rookie pg’s, or whatever the heck he is.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
by Bluejohn on Nov 29, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a tall long strong basketball player
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what he said
Evans, “I’m a basketball player.”
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't heard anything
But 60 minutes before the game we should know, when PW does the Pre-game media interview.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
best I can find is that him and JT are game time decisions.
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com
by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
I forgot about JT’s back. That was a nasty fall. I hope he is ok.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JT is fine
maybe he will lose the “soft” lable some have tried to put on him
by Beagle12 on Nov 29, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That label must be soft
or it wouldn’t be so easily lost.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No Peja tonight for the Hornets. Personal matters with family.
Too bad. I still love watching Peja shoot the three.
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com
by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 12:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Too bad...and good.
I still love watching the man play and hit his threes, just not against the Kings. :)
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Hornets have a winning record since CP3 went down?
He sucks just like Kevin Martin (note sarcasm).
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by section214 on Nov 29, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Statistics don't lie
Back to the D league for both. :)
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Twain said it best:
“There are lies, damn lies and statistics”
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously
The Hornets should trade CP3 since Collison is playing so well. I’ll bet they can get some expiring contracts. Either that or they should move Paul to the 2.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 29, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasim detected
I agree. To think that they would be better without Paul is as assinine as thinking the Kings would be better off without Martin. I hope people get off their trip soon.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
CP3 isn’t a pure enough of a PG to play the 2.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Teams with "true" point guards
just don’t win. If your point guard is your best player, you have no chance. Look at all of the resent NBA champs. Name me the last time the point guard was the best player. The only “true” that Kings fans need to know.
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com
by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
San Antonio's
Tony Parker is probably the closest
by nothingbutnet on Nov 29, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since the position of Point Guard is only 1/5 of the teams lineup
I would expect to find that the point guard position is occupied by the best player on a Championship team 1/5 of the time, statistically speeking. I have not done the research but it would not be hard to find, just take all the years the NBA has had a Title and look at the best player. I am not able to quote much history so it would take someone else. However, the opinions of who was best on each team would be somewhat subjective because great teams usually have many great players.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Starting at the 1979-80 season with Magic until last year
There has been six Point Guards labeled as Finals MVP, they are:
1) 79-80 Magic Johnson
2) 81-82 Magic Johnson
3) 86-87 Magic Johnson
4) 89-90 Isiah Thomas
5) 03-04 Chauncey Billups
6) 06-07 Tony Parker
So over the last 30 years 6 Point Gurds have won the MVP of the Finals and could be considered the best player on their teams for the year. That equals a 1/5 ratio, which is what I would expect. If you are interested, you could go to this website: http://www.nba.com/history/finals/champions.html to look for youself.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah Ha,
My Tony Parker reply was right.
2007 is the answer Czar.
by nothingbutnet on Nov 30, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Ewing theory in FULL EFFECT.
(insert CP3 is SOFT joke here)
All credit goes to the UCLA F’N BRUIN, Darren Collison!!!
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
props for well executed sarcasm notation
actually a perfectly executed sarcasm notation, almost worth a rec.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
by Bluejohn on Nov 29, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
That was before Eric Maynor
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com
by The Czar on Nov 29, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eric Maynor
Is actually the one who hurt CP3 and DWill early in the season, so all coulld see how great Eric Maynor really is.
by Gilo424 on Nov 29, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eventually
he will be the only one left in the league and Stern will give him a Championship ring withoutg having to play a single Finals game.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two evenly matched teams
Hornets aren’t winning on the road & the Kings haven’t lost to a Western Conference team at home. We’re scoring better than the last time we meet. And, we lead going into the 4th quarter of that game. NO had a season high 9 blocks in that game, but the Kings outrebounded the Hornets.
PW needs to use all three PG’s. Sergio has an asst/to ratio of 2.5, Beno is at 2.1, and Tyreke is at 1.5. In TO per 48mins. Tyreke ranks 21st among guards, Sergio is 39th, and Beno is 69th.
In the games that the Hornets lost they were outrebounded on the offensive glass by 6.6 rebounds and 12.6 in total rebounds. The Kings need to dominate the boards as they have in so many games. If Spencer can’t play this could be a bleek game.
In the last game with NO, the KIngs had 9 shots blocked. Which is almost double the Hornets average. Five came against our bigs, and 4 against our guards. Okafor and West had 6 of the 9 blocks for NO. Hopefully we’re better now, but we really have to keep Okafor away from the rim, & screen him when we can’t. JT needs to have a great game.
I don’t put any importance to the Hornets 1-7 road record. Both teams shoot about the same FG%. And, while we rebound better, they have fewer TO’s and more Assists. We need to get off to a good start, control the boards , and get back quickly on defense. No easy fast break points. The winner could end up being the team that shoots last.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Nov 29, 2009 12:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good anaysis, Coach Tops. ;P Agreed.
The boards is everything to this Kings team. I can’t help but think that David West will put on his playoff face and go off tonight. He always plays well in Arco, even on one leg.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
by JETisKing on Nov 29, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I think Reke had alot of those BA in the last game and his better outside shot will be a key along with the rebound advantage that we need.
by kwill on Nov 29, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Prediction
Kings 105 Hornets 98
Kings improve .500 for the 2nd time in a year.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Nov 29, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
with Beno leading the Kings
With two crucial lay-up after N’awlins cuts it to three.
You heard it here first.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Nov 29, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of lay-ups baskets.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Nov 29, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Prediction
113-109
Mark my words Tyreke will have 40-10-10 and will take the lead in the early rookie of the year voting from BJ.
by sacman on Nov 29, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
IF I were a gambling man...
Kings are favored by 4
Over/Under is 207.5
Call it!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Nov 29, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My money
Kings to cover and the over
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Nov 29, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the first time
The Kings have been favored this year. Definitely the first time they have been a four-point favorite. That’s a lot to give against a team with a better record that has already beaten you this season.
The winner will still be in ninth place in the West if my memory serves me correctly.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 29, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about announcer hell
Boston vs. Miami
those have to be two of the worst announcer duos in the NBA.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
by ForThree on Nov 29, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I like Mike Gorman
If you listen closely enough, you’ll notice he does all the announcing AND analysis. Tommy just mutters some drunk nonsense.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
it’s nonsense with a righteous accent.
by sactown on Nov 29, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Yeah.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've said it before
but I was never more irritated than watching the Clippers feed last year and hearing that dingus yell “BINGO!” every other basket that scored.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Ralph Lawler
And I think it’s cool when he says Bingo.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to strangle him
different strokes I guess
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's true
the Boston play-by-play guy is good, if only you could mute one of two announcers. Come to think of it, if we could do that for our announcing team that would be nice too. :)
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
by ForThree on Nov 29, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is Jerry wouldn't talk much over the course of 2 1/2-3 hours
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm off in a minute to the game to meet betweentheeyes
I promised not to mention Thabeet, but now that I’m sure he’s on the road
(for no particular reason)
Thabeeeeet!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 29, 2009 4:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think this will be a fun game to watch
I like what I’ve seen from Thornton and Collison. I would think our bench should have the edge over theirs and that may give the Kings the edge.
I wonder if Ime will get any minutes tonight.
Ba-da
by Ba-Da Bing on Nov 29, 2009 5:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do we have an update on injuries?
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by mvhsbball on Nov 29, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unless you have ESP or direct contact
Please stop saying that. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing on Twitter (Sac Kings, Amick, or JJones)
nthing on sacbee either
Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...
by edm7 on Nov 29, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i have a sprained knee
Disclaimer: comments may have been made under the influence of alcohol. If the Kings start winning, this will probably change.
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