Kevin Martin's No-Win Situation
Kevin Martin's really in a pickle. The Bee reports that today Martin will decide whether to undergo surgery to repair his broken wrist (missing 6-8 weeks), sit 6-8 weeks in the hopes it will heal on its own, or slap on a soft cast and play through it, risking a full break (and a longer recovery).
The "smart" move would be to get the wrist fixed. You don't drive on a tire with a leak, and you don't play professional basketball with a wrist fracture that could turn into a full break. This isn't a Kobe's finger comparison. Kobe tore the ligament on his pinky. A broken wrist is just a bit more serious. If you doubt that analysis, go join a pick-up game with your pinky taped to your ring finger, and compare that with trying to play with one arm taped behind your back. Comparing this to Kobe's finger injury is disingenuous.
But Martin has an unfair reputation around here as being soft. Because, you know, men plays on crumbling ankles and shredded groins. It's as if it is Kevin's fault he experienced a bone bruise last year! Not to (again) draw someone else's name into this, but you don't see anyone questioning Francisco Garcia's toughness, and he will have missed more games than Martin over two years. Is it because we know what a broken arm looks like, but we can't quite envision a serious bone bruise in the ankle? Is it because a catastrophic exercise ball failure is more illustrative than a degenerative condition made worse by activity and better only through rest? Are we really that simple, Sacramento?
Because of that unfair reputation, if Martin decides to heal it, he will be pilloried on sports talk radio, by national yuks-yuks, by commenters everywhere. It's 100% bullshit, but it's what will happen. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some within the franchise turn on him. There's a lot at stake this season, and clearly -- clearly -- Kevin Martin is the most important King in terms of wins and losses. Those with jobs on the line (this means within the front office) could see Martin allowing the fracture to heal as a sort of betrayal, a lack of consideration for the own futures. Which is of course -- again -- 100% bullshit.
This is the pressure Kevin Martin faces today. It's unfortunate the situation has gotten to these depths locally, where a team's star player has to worry about his reputation when making a very serious medical decision. I hope he ignores the haters and does what he really believes he needs to do, whether that's to heal or to risk it. We're fans, and we support the team, and we all will be affected by his decision. But it's his decision, dammit, and it's Kevin Martin who has to live with it.
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And there you have it, folks, from the WWL themselves
by iashwash on Nov 6, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions 10 recs
I cannot rec this from my phone
but if I could…
by spragueito on Nov 6, 2009 9:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wait a minute!!
There is no such article on ESPN?? I suspect foul play here.
Damn it!! That would have been a good read too.
K-Mart is a total stud either way
I was so impressed with his answer to the “reputation for being injured” question. I don’t care what anyone else says. This is the kind of player you build you team around. The kid has talent and character. Just my opinion, by I think anyone who advocates the Kings improving by trading him for anything less than an All Star is a complete and total ignoramus.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
I was impressed with that reply too.
And completely agree with your assessment on trading him.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
Hey SB – are you and LPA going to the game tomorrow at Energy Solutions? I still haven’t decided yet
by spragueito on Nov 6, 2009 9:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nope.
In-laws’ 50th anniversary party. And while they’re Kings fans, too, I don’t think they’d understand missing the party for a game.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 6, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Haters
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I read elsewhere that it wasn't this serious (6 - 8 weeks)
More like a couple of weeks. Is it really 6-8?? Say it ain’t so.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
I would prefer Kevin to rest and heal it
even though I love how he’s been playing so far this year. I just know that there’s going to be some asshole Najera like defender who will constantly slap at his wrist, and I don’t want to see him out for the whole year because he tries to tough it out. If he does try to tough it out though, that should be his decision only because he thinks he can do it. I honestly think he might try to play through it at least for a few games. My advice if he does though: at least skip the goddamn Utah game on Saturday. That team is way too physical.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
I know
But I’m saying assholes will slap at his already broken wrist to try to take him out since they won’t be able to stop him other ways.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
Great article Ziller
he should let it heal, its broken wrist, and he plays professional basketball. This should be a no brainer, but because of the ridiculous pressure people are bringing because of past injuries, there’s a chance he’ll make the wrong decision.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
Here's the plan
K-Money has surgery and sits for 8 weeks. Obviously we lose pretty much all of our games until then, but build character as our scrappy youngins do their damnedest to fight through adversity. When Kevin and then Cisco come back we start to fire on all cylinders and win out our last 20 games, giving everyone hope for next season, and then we win the 1st pick in the draft as well. And then the Maloofs agree to pay for a new arena entirely out of their own pockets. Sound good?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
meanwhile
Ziller buys the Kings from the Maloofs
Permanent peace breaks out in the Middle East
Pookeyguru cures cancer.
And section214 takes over the Jay Leno show, and we’re able to get 5 hours a week of someone that’s actually witty and funny on TV.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
Heh
Pookeyguru curescancerthe incessant/obsessive/addictive need that Americans have with petroleum.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You would become the richest person on Earth if you could do that.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
Heh
Not about being rich.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 6, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not caring about wealth is a limitation?
Sure thing.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
... says Cool Hand Pook
It was a joke son, it doesn’t have to make sense.
by hozr on Nov 6, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Cool Hand Pook
Excellent!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 6, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely gotta rec that
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Everything has to make sense
EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Are you attempting to power the country on pure abrasiveness?
Or just this blog?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 6, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought I'd power Mexico first with that
I’m not sure it will work everywhere in the US.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'll only power this country with my abrasiveness...
…if you promise to get out of your car.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm down.
I don’t even really like driving. If we had a system like Caltrain / BART down here that could get me to and from work in a timely manner, I’d sell my car in a flash.
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A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
YEp
Socal public transportation is a sad state of affairs.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
c'mon, I didn't think you were actually being serious
I promise I will be the first to issue a Gigantic apology for being abrasive, and will be begging you for stock picks for your amazing prognostication as soon as:
This year’s Kings team wins 20 straight games, I’ll be generous, and let you slide this doesn’t have to be the final 20 games, any time during the year, and I’ll give you credit for this one.
We win the draft lottery
and
the Maloofs fund an arena entirely on their own.
Relax, I wasn’t trying to be mean, sorry if it came across that way.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
I think SN was talking to me 4-3
But, maybe I missed his point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I was talking to you Pookey
and FYI, ForThree, you can pretty much count on it that I’m never actually being serious. Actual insight is not my strong suit.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 6, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
You don't want to pat me on the ass do you?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I just spent thirty seconds thinking how to reply to this, when I realized spending thirty seconds thinking of patting pookey’s ass is not what I should be doing on a Friday night.
I’m out!
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Nov 6, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn right boi
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yao got hurt
and the Rockets won 22 straight in 2008, so I am sure we won’t miss Kevin a bit. We just gotta believe.
This year’s Kings team wins 20 straight games …
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 7, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
The Reputation
It is what it is: both Kevin and Garcia have been injury-prone. His comment on the video about “being smart about it” indicates to me he’s going to do the right thing, which is to get it fixed.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 6, 2009 8:59 AM PST reply actions
I hope he does whatever is the best solution to a full healing of his injury
Regardless of the team having to play without him. I agree that it probably means losing even more games than we would have otherwise, but it will give our kids more time and experience, and as I really look at this year’s team as a basis for the future than any potential for immediate achievements, I can live with that.
And regardless – I don’t think Kevin should make any personal sacrifices like risking a much serious injury for the team. It my eyes, it’s never worth it.
Do what's best for your health Kevin.
As much as I love to watch you play, as much as I love the gaudy shooting efficiency and renewed focus on strengthing your defensive game…I really want to enjoy watching you play at 100% and knowing you haven’t sacrificed your long-term health or performance over what a few unpleasable fans / sportswriters might say.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
This should be required reading for all Kings fans
and hopefully Kevin happens to read this too.
rec’d
Kings fan in OKC
Sit out and get it fixed K-Mart!
Even though I wouldn’t want a screw put in my wrist, if that is the best solution to fix our star then it another cold hard, pill that Kings fans will have to swallow. And there have been many of those recently. Even though we would have a Grand Canyon at shooting guard, the future health of K-Mart is way more important than the present. If we were in the hunt for the playoffs, I might take a minute longer on my opinion…it’s gonna be hard seeing K-Mart and Cisco on the bench for most of the season =/
Lets get one thing straight
Kobe Bryant is such a drama queen that every year he comes up with this “devastating” injury wether it’s his shoulder, pinky, or a nattin cheeseburger or a rape case drama just so everyone in the media can ride his nuts on how great he is for playing through it. These Martin injuries are for real so Kevin do what you gotta do to fix it & the organization is gona have to cut Westphal some slack on the wins & losses.
by allbenji's on Nov 6, 2009 9:25 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I wouldn't try to play with it
- well I might be stubborn enough for a game or three before I folded but
Its a Broken wrist,
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
What I know is I'll be disappointed if Kevin doesn't sit
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If I thought we had a chance to win a title this year
…maybe I ask him to play through it. As it is, we would have been thrilled to win one game in three this season, I can live with being a sub.250 team, knowing that when Kevin gets back, he’ll be sound.
Get it fixed right, see you in January.
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To your health!
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Nov 6, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Amen sims
Also, great stuff TZ.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's a blessing in disguise.
When Kevin and Cisco come back all of our rooks will have way more experience with the veterans and each other (I’m sure it’s already been said – too lazy to go through the thread). We’ll probably pick up a scoring veteran somewhere along the way as well (not sure who though).
A thinking Kings fan should never be so selfish.
So there it is. During the next 4 months or so I’ll be rooting for rookies. Go Kings.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Rashad McCants anyone?
the guy is kind of a douche but he can score.
by allbenji's on Nov 6, 2009 10:12 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Thats what i'm talking about sims
Hope you get better Kevin :(
Miguel Cotto will defeat Pacquiao on November 14, 2009! For PUERTO RICO baby..
Does it make you a "Hater"
To be dismayed by the fact that Martin missed just over 50 games in the last to seasons? I’m sorry and I don’t want to rain on your parade of gushing pro-Martin blabber, but this does bring him down a bit in my book. I love his game and he’s a great player to have on the team, but he has missed way to many games. I’m not saying trade him, but I am saying that someone isn’t a “hater” just for mentioning it. 
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
by Bambooozled on Nov 6, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Great stuff Bamboozled
I hope you don’t mind if I rip off the pic.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
"...this does bring him down a bit in my book."
Would he be higher in your book if it were a broken leg? A tumor? Lupus?
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by section214 on Nov 6, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Thats a stupid question 214
My main problem, as I stated, is that Martin missed just over 50 games during the last 2 seasons. You’re just playing semantics if you argue that this means “soft” or “injury prone.” To me, missing that many games, coupled with the number he will miss this year, makes him both. 
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
Yes section, that's a stupid question
Now I’m going to post a funny picture
The future begins now...
Like nobody has posted a funny picture on here before...please!
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
But it's not semantics
Injury prones speaks to a guy that can’t stay healthy.
Soft speaks to a guy that won’t play when he’s a little banged up.
Martin is injured – requiring surgery. This is not a nick or a cut.
If you’re saying that Martin comes down in your eyes because he suffered a broken wrist, I suppose that is your right. Just as it is my right to believe that this point of view of is horsesh*t. This doesn’t make me right and you wrong.
And there are no stupid questions. Just stupid people that respond to questions. Having said that, I ask you if you would like to respond?
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Ok
Well there’s a lot of pointless cow patties on here…
And not everyone on here drinks so much koolaid that they cant say somehting bad about the team they love. So what does it make Martin if he gets injured when he plays hard? In other words, when he gets “banged up” every season?
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
It's a legitimate quesiton Section
One of the knocks on Kevin before he got drafted was that he wouldn’t be able to stand up to the physicality of the NBA due to his slight build. I sure hope that doesn’t turn out to be true but it sure looks like a trend may be developing here.
Thank you hozr!
I couldn’t believe that I was the only one trying to stress this fact – the notion that the difference in descriptions is so slight that “inury prone” and “soft” can interconnect in important ways. And I was gettin’ mad sh!t for it!!!
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
Injury Prone vs. Being Soft
To me, calling KMart soft would be like calling Grant Hill soft. I don’t think you would hear that about either player. Both are great people by all accounts and true professionals.
I realize this is Kevin’s decision, but I think the team should tell him that either way he is not going to play unless he is 100%. They should have had him shut it down earlier last year too. I love the heart and competitiveness, but the fact is the team would have been no worse off without him. As good as he was able to play on offense, his ankle was just too much of a liability on defense.
The team has made a long term investment in KMart, and they need to realize that we are not going to make the playoffs this year.
The Kings Faithless
They need to realize that we are not going to make the playoffs this year.
Says who?
I’ve been reading a variation of this BS all day and am frankly getting kinda sick of it.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 7, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Don't matter how sick of it you are
The Kings still aren’t going to sniff anything remotely close to the playoffs.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe not
But I’m disgusted with the naysayers who think the team is going to win 5 of the next 30 games or similar thoughts. Good thing the players don’t think like the “fans.”
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Nov 7, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
How about this
While I’m not optimistic for a lot of wins, I will hardly be upset by them.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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