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The Morning After, and Disbelief Still Reigns

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I continue to have real trouble believing that happened. I saw it, watching the game in real time (a rarity for me), and I figured the resilient Kings would get it down to, say, 15 or so. A silver lining of sorts. When the deficit shrunk to 12 and 13, but stuck there most of the fourth quarter, I figured that'd be the end, that the runs had been exhausted and we'd have to be content with a strong second half effort that came up 50 percent short.

But the Bulls continued to have disastrous possession after disastrous possession. The shot clock violation which preceded Ime Udoka's first three-pointer -- the one where Kirk Hinrich basically dribbled around the perimeter for a while -- was amazingly bad. And the Kings cut it down to six ... and the Bulls continued to have no luck, no composure on offense. All the shot Chicago made early bounced off. All the shots the Kings missed early started to fall.

The amazing thing about the comeback is that the Kings didn't really shoot an extraordinary clip: 11-21 in the fourth quarter, which is good but hardly historic. The amazing thing was the Kings defense (or Bulls offense, or more accurately both). The Bulls had seven turnovers in the fourth, and just one offensive rebound in eight opportunities, and shot 2-10 from the floor. That's right: only 10 FGAs for the Bulls. Meanwhile, the Kings had one turnover and four offensive rebounds, and thus got off 21 FGAs, of which they made 11. (Yes, the Kings made more FGs in the fourth than the Bulls attempted. Moving screens are a helluva drug.)

Jon Brockman's line looks bad, but Holy Lord was he effective. He finished +26 in 17 minutes, because he played for nearly the entirety of the big run. His defense was huge (as was that of Udoka -- he completely shut off Hinrich) and he disrupted the Bulls' defensive rebounding enough to get himself and Tyreke Evans some boards.

I think Matt at Blog-a-Bull accurately reflects on why this happened now:

[I]f I had to pick a team that would blow a 35 point lead, it'd be a team who has one of the league's worst offenses, a unit that could go completely in the toilet at any time.

The Kings have, amazingly, become the counterpoint to that: if there's any team that could look completely awful for 27 minutes of basketball but keep plugging and eventually break through, it's the Kings. Amazing, given the status of this franchise last year.

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Atta Boys

A lot of good stuff from a lot of guys (Tyreke!). Special atta boys below.

Udoka- clutch offense in the 4th, great D, huge impact.

Brockman- tape of that game should be shown at clinics to show that you don’t have to be a Jordan to have a huge impact on the outcome of games if you are willing to bust your ass out there.

Coach Westphal- for keeping the team in the game mentally and for sticking with the lineup that was getting it done.

We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

by outrider on Dec 22, 2009 6:52 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

awesome

wow, maybe this team is worth buying tickets for. come on sacramento, back this team.I haven’t cared in years but now i am getting more proud of this young team with every W and last nights performance sealed the deal.

by srill waiting on Dec 22, 2009 7:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The emergence of an identity

One of the goals that we fans had for this year following last season’s dwell in the cellar was to start to establish a new identity.
The season started and gritty, scrappy team play emerged. They may not be pretty, but effort would not be a problem. But it didn’t stop there. Every game has growth.

This was a huge step toward developing a personality and identity. The home wins, the last minute Tyreke heroics and now this historic come from behind victory.

As a fan, I feel like this is a fantasy turned real. I am watching the birth of a team to delight in. A team that pumps adrenaline and emotion into me. This team is a powerful drug and I am mainlining and hooked.

by betweentheeyes on Dec 22, 2009 8:01 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

This is why we watch

and blog and talk and obsess. For moments like this.

This not only marks us fans, more importantly, it marks the team. This Kings squad and it’s players are now known as “this team (Tyreke Evans) came back from 35 down, don’t count them out”. We all tend to “play” to the level of expectation. Again, identity.

Just a great team win.

by betweentheeyes on Dec 22, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I have been a loyal fan since 1990....

That was the greatest game I have ever seen…ever. Somewhere in space a star went supernova….

by SleepJones on Dec 22, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

:)

That is all.

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by section214 on Dec 22, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

:)

Beautiful… I fell in love with this team back in white chocolates days… and saw the downfall. And then I found this beautiful site devoted to my kings and I read kit all of last season religiously! I love this team and this site

by SKingsFan on Dec 22, 2009 8:29 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

They got the second and third best performers from a 17 win team. I feel sorry for them.

by mayfieldcol on Dec 22, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We've had a heart transplant this year

(I didn’t know they were supposed to re-use the weak heart once removed in another patient though)

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 22, 2009 9:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great game

How many times have we seen an NBA game where one team gets a huge lead, and the other team fights back to get it to single digits then runs out of steam? I kept waiting for that to occur, but amazingly the Bulls appeared to have the empty gas tanks the last three or four minutes and the Kings looked fresh.

Just another extended glimpse of what could be for this team – they may not be the most talented, but when they are giving maximum effort and valuing the ball, the opposition’s going to need to play extremely well to beat them.

This team got a much needed heart transplant this offseason (players and coaches). It’s fun to see them just flat wanting to win more than their opponents.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Dec 22, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit...

I saw the box score after the first quater (and start of the second) and chalked the game up to a loss. (That and I went to the movies with my Wife and Family)

Logging in to see the King’s had stormed back and WON THE GAME really makes my Tuesday.

Go Kings!

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on Dec 22, 2009 10:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Do teams like the Wizards, Bucks, and Bulls know what they're doing?

Do they realize that by letting a 20 year old rookie beat them they’re just creating a monster? Dude’s already got the talent and the work ethic to build on it. But you’re gonna give him the swagger? Isn’t ’Reke gonna remember these games for his entire career, especially when he plays in Chicago and Milwaukee?

Kings’ fans thank you. The same can’t be said for the other NBA teams.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Dec 22, 2009 10:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Those teams didn't LET 'Reke beat them.

’Reke took those games with his own swagger. :)

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Dec 22, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get the Reke love, I do, but if Ime doesn’t hit those long distance jumpers mid-quarter, I don’t think the Kings would have had the momentum to stay in it long enough to have Reke make Hinrich look like a 12th man on a JV team. Though it might seem insignificant, I think Beno coming in during the second quarter and scoring a dozen, including three jumpers in a row, settled the team down and let them know they could get back in it. I have come to regard Beno as the King’s shot of whiskey, he settles them down and gives them a little fortitude.

As much fun as this is for the King’s, I can’t decide how much of the victory was our play, versus the Bull’s just absolutely vomiting the game up. I mean, six field goal attempts in the last nine minutes of the game? With those players? Really? It reminded me of the Kings absolute inability to run a precise play under the Theus/Natt glory run. The Bulls need to fire Vinny immediately, they have had some awful losses this year, and you can tell the team is a bit rudderless, and I am one that never found the Coach to be overly important until we let Adelman go and saw what happened here versus what he did with the Rockets. Sorry Vinny, you might not get another chance after this.

How do we start a sixth man of the year campaign for Beno?

by MichaelMack on Dec 22, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Newsflash

Bench play is important

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 22, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally...

our bench got us back in the game and gave Tyreke a chance to take it over.

Ime’s shots were awesome. I was thinking that what he did in the fourth is exactly what I want to see from Martin when he gets back. Slash a bit, hit open shots. Hopefully he can play respectable defense, his d was looking better in the few games we saw.

by babasin on Dec 22, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but Brockman too

Yes Udoka and Udrich were a huge part of the win, but we were losing on the defense. You have to give a ton of credit to Brockman. The pick and roll defense has been abysmal as has been the interior defense.

Brockman set the tone on defense from down low that spread outward from the paint. He anchored the defense in a way that Udoka could build on. The combination of Udoka and Brockman brought the defense up in seismic proportions.

And, yes, the win was also on offense. The issue with this team is how much do you give up on Defense by having your Offensive players in the game. It is glad to see that Udoka finally is cured of Desmond-itis and pushed the team over Offensively as well as Defensively.

by MustangMBS on Dec 22, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls can suck as much as they want

but the Kings still had to take advantage. Last year’s team did not have that ability.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Dec 22, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see Ime doing so well this year – I knew he’d find a good home. Kudos to your guys on the huge comeback, too.

The Spurs - now playing like sh*t again!

by Tim C. on Dec 22, 2009 11:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't believe it...

I’m still having a hard time believing it!!

Purveyor of Bull Plop

by SayWhat? on Dec 22, 2009 11:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

seriously

I keep watching it over and over again and I still don’t know how they won that game! Amazing…

by big_beast on Dec 23, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a dream about this last night (seriously!)

…That after the Bulls lost, someone from the crowd drove their car onto the court and rammed it into some of the Kings’ players/coaching staff, then a bunch of Bulls fans started shooting their guns at Kings ambassador, Bobby Jackson.

by CloudyEyes on Dec 22, 2009 12:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hmmm, zo', you had za' dream about ze lost Bull and an out of control auto ramming into the coaching staff and then wild shooting

/scratches beard. hmmmmm
/smokes pipe. ahhhh, of course.

Your dream tells me that you have a big hard on for the Kings and wish to have sex with this Mr. Jackson, but this desires frightens you because you miss Brad Miller and John Salmons

by betweentheeyes on Dec 22, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Ah, Zigmund zigmund

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 22, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Psycho analysis

and one of the great cartoons of all time. Here is the link. Caution: may be inappropriate for younger viewers (which is why I didn’t post it here as a jpeg.)

by betweentheeyes on Dec 22, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice eyebrows

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Dec 23, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

kings a TERRIFYING 8 seed

okay i’m sure most of you are aware and it’s probably already been commented upon, but i’m sayin it anyway- mainly because i like hearing it. last night was the second largest comeback in nba history. a 58-19 run from 8:50 in 3rd qtr. sacramento rushing dreams. GO KINGS!

by doriank on Dec 22, 2009 12:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kings-Lakers in the playoffs

has a nice ring to it.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 22, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! Awesome. Rec'd.

I love knowing there are other basketball cynics in the world besides myself.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Dec 22, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's nice to know

We are good enough that they would have to fix it. :)

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 22, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice. That's exactly how I feel.

They knew the forces of evil needed a little extra help to defeat our mighty Kings.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Dec 23, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*crushing

by doriank on Dec 22, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How is VDN not fired already?

And I’d be working on a 2 year extension for PW.

by Bitgod on Dec 22, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They have a game in NY tonight

Thats the only reason I think

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 22, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite line from Coach Paul's presser

On Tyreke:

“It was one of his worst games . . . up until it wasn’t.”

You gotta love PW.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Dec 22, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I liked that one too.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Dec 22, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some Comments about the game and the kings in general

Hello, first post, so might be lengthy
I’m from Israel, watching NBA since 1988, a pistons fan, with the kings my secondary team since the 2000 season. I’ve watched most of the kings games this season.

Several things I want to share and would love to hear your thoughts about:
1) as much as you are excited (And I was) about the win, a wise man avoids the troubles a smart man has the brains to get out of. the kings played ABYSMAL in the first 27-28 minutes. play against any normal coach and that game is beyond return. PW’s rotation is weird, some players have lost their confidence completely. I see no rhyme or reason to it at times. where was brokman in the first half? why play so little zone? this reminded me of the Minnesota/first chicago games. abysmal defense, one and done offense.
PS the refs where making some BS calls and we had balls rimming out, so the first half was weird in general.
2) Omri Casspi – the man does not rebound or play help defensively. he seems very timid and out of it in general at times and if you note he and evans barely talk or greet each other. there is some weird vibe going on there.

by There Is No I in YourMama on Dec 22, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome

1) Which players have lost confidence? Sean May? I’m just not seeing it. What I am seeing is a coach that is not afraid to shake things up when something is not working, and he is not afraid to stick with the hot hand, regardless of contract $$$ (note Brockman and Udoka on the floor at the finish). Like all coaches, not everything that Westphal tries works, but I give him huge credit for not being afraid to try different variations.

2) Not seeing you at all on this one. He has played with passion and enthusiasm on defense this year, and he and Francisco Garcia are very close. The whole team has exhibited amazing chemistry so far this season. That’s just my opinion – perhaps others see it differently.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Dec 22, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am glad to hear that he and Cisco are close, as they seem similar in style. I miss Cisco’s blocks from behind the shooter, and his ballsy three pointers, I hope he can get himself into game shape quickly when he comes back.

by MichaelMack on Dec 22, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

first off, don't be talking about anyone's Mama. And they all have eyes

1 – The Kings as a team fell flat. I don’t believe that was the game plan. Coach Westphal got little help from any players other than a fine first half from Beno. Interestingly, Udrih didn’t play all that much in the second half as Udoka was on fire. Brockman is a reserve who has been recently injured. He was thrown in to see if he could make a difference. He made his playing time too valuable to be taken out of the game.
2 – Omri has been consistent in displaying charged up intensity – sometimes his biggest error. Tyreke and Casspi seem to be teammates who enjoy each other. You may need a to get an insecticide suppository to get rid of that bug up your ass about Casspi.
Oh, and have a nice day.

by betweentheeyes on Dec 22, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Omri wasn't playing well

He’s in his 27th game when thats close to how many he’s used to playing all year. Most Rookies get tired spells.
He’s been very very consistant (for a rookie) and most of us are confidant he’ll be an excellent NBA player, perhaps even an All-Star if he can get a little stronger, for many years to come.
He’s clearly been the best Small Forward from this years draft and displays not only an excellent outside shot but also is working on (rookie) a nice variety of ways to score off the dribble.

We’re grateful to have him.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 22, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't really blame you for homerism ;)

1) regarding rotation, I agree that its a tough assignment. Spencer can be at times terrible on pick and roll defense, OTOH I think he’s a guy that’s really regressed this year, and the jerky rotation is part of what’s to blame. I’m not drinking form the PW kool aid yet. we had very soft schedule up until now and that 13-14 is hard dot get a read on – we lost to all the good teams we faced except Chicago and utah and got lucky with injuries to other teams we faced. I’m not sure I should commend him for experimenting down 35! it looked way more fluky on his part than anything.

2) Casspi… well you know, of course he’s a rookie and may improve. everybody in Israel was caught by surprise by his performance. he wasn’t shooting great here, he was just an athletic slasher, a 9th-10th guy on the best team in israel. (unrelated it seems that all young players that go from Europe to the NBA have much easier time scoring, which is why I think Rubio would be a much better score in the NBA than people expect). I was really happy and surprised by how well he shot. but I really thought he would be better on defense. part of it is knowing who you’re guarding, when to fight screens, when to back off etc. but help defense… maybe its teachable. I’m just stating the facts I see.

regarding him having a feud of some sort with Evans I forgot to mention that I’m a communication skills coach who also does body language for a living. so, when I look at the body language of Casspi to evans and vice versa and compare it to the evans with almost any other guy on the team, I see there is something. it may something that will pass soon. watch the replay of clutch plays tyreke made, I think casspi was the only one who didn’t celebrate with him(Milwaukee game, Chicago game). I will glad to be wrong on that! but Tyreke, as great as a player as he is, has got to learn to deffer to his teammates at the right times and casspi has got to be a little less wired about stuff. BTW the foul he was called for on Deng was bull**** but his reaction was uncalled for and he was very lucky not to get T’ed up.
regarding his rebounding and help defense – just watch what donte or noc do when they come up on the floor, in that department. I hope he’ll get better at this because at his size and his minutes, his rebounds/blocks are not up to par. it may be by design as he seems to release to the break very early, but, again, I’ve seen him very timid on defense when it comes to help.

oh
and thanks for welcoming me. this seems like a very good board.

by There Is No I in YourMama on Dec 23, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's a rookie

and most nights outplays Noce.

Was the comeback against the Bulls a fluke? Sure as hell it was! That just doesn’t happen – for anyone. But the fact is that they got better and closed it out when the opportunity emerged from all that mess of the 1st 30 minutes.

Donte’ better be doing a few things better than Casspi if he wants minutes, he’s behind him on the depth chart right now and Kevin Martin will be back after New Years. But there’s not uch Donte’ does better right now.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 23, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rebuttal

Here.

I’ll take Amick’s eye witness observations over your communications skills coaching, no offense intended.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Dec 23, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

non taken:)

All I know is what I see. maybe its just his style
I want to see them high five during a game or after a win. no kisses on the cheeks like vlade:)

good luck to both of them

by There Is No I in YourMama on Dec 23, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sam works for Haaretz?

Can he do that?

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Dec 23, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Casspi is 2nd on the Kings among SF's in rebounding

Noc averages 3.9 and Casspi averages 3.8 with 1 minute less PT. Noc, Casspi, and Greene rebound at a rate of 6 per game when adjusted to 36 minutes PT. I think he’s doing fine, as a rookie. As far as help defense goes, the entire team is poor in that area. But, they’re in the 27th game under a new coach and a new defensive scheme. Plus with all of PW’s rotations it’s very hard to learn responsiblities for multiple position, so I’ll give them all a pass until later in the season.

There is no rhyme or reason to games like the Bulls game. As JR has often said, basketball is a game of runs. And, it took a lot of thinks to go right for the Kings even to be in a position to win. The real exciting thing about the game, and the Bucks and Wiz games before it, was that the Kings (Tyreke in perticular) are learning how to win games. Forget about the 35 pt recovery. Just think about how we scored in the last minutes of 3 games, and pulled out narrow victories. And, we did it with different rotations on the floor in crunch time. Now, that’s exciting.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Dec 22, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kings first, Pistons second ;)

Guess what, the Kings are my first team, as I am from California, and the Pistons my second as I believe in underrated players coming together and winning games!!

But to your first question: PW’s rotations are “wierd” in fact. And this is because he choses his “poisons” depending on the team they’re playing. For example, if the other team is fast, his gam plan is to not play Udrih more minutes than Rodriguez unless the circumstances changes. Another would be if he knows that the other team “big’s” are hustlers, he’ll play K-9 and/or Brock extra minutes compared to Hawes. Because of this “wierd” rotation, it’s hard to play good/complete zones. Players in general are use to playing 1 position and a second position depending on the circumstances. But PW has places Reke in the 1,2, and 3 position, Green, in the 2, 3, and 4 position, and Noc in the 2, 3, 4 position. As well as playing all the PG’s in Reke, Rod, and Udrih, at the same time. It gets complicated!! Lastly, as for the first half, plus some, of the game, the KIngs were disastrous!! I have to admit, I was past disappointed when halftime came around. But it’s not how you start a game that wins the game, it’s how you finish – remember the story of the tortoise and the hare?

As to your second question: Casspi is a rookie; give him that much. And considering he doesn’t play ball the way it’s played in the US. Of course he’s a professional, but when you’re thrown into a different circumstance, your posture changes and you have to adapt to it. On the other hand, I believe he rebounds perfectly fine. It’s not great, but he’s there when he has to be and in most cases, as you said you’ve seen most Kings games, he’s usually guarding the perimeters and he’s always, always on the fast breaks!! About half his points of every game has come from fast breaks because that’s his game. Secondly to that, you have to realize that Brock and/or K-9, plus Thompson, is usually in those games, and you know how effective those 3 guys are on the boards defensively; so how else do you suppose Casspi is going to get his boards? As for the help defense, refer to the “weird” style that PW emphasis when it comes to rotating guys – that plays a big part in trying to help defense because they’re all new players on new teams with a new defense. Lastly, more PG don’t involve plays with SF, it’s usually pick and rolls and that’s with the 4 and 5 position. I see it as this, the 1 plays a lot with the 4 and 5; 2 plays with the 1, and 3. 4 plays with the 2 and 5; and 5 plays with the 2 and 3. Note: that was a personal opinion.

by blowfishee on Dec 22, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

WOW!!

That’s all.

No recap from anybody is better than that one word recap.

BOOK IT!

by kingme18 on Dec 22, 2009 10:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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