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Preview: 76ers at Kings

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THE OPPONENT

Oh, Eddie Jordan, you delightful tart. Of course the Sixers, 14th in the league in defense last season and 8th the year prior, have fallen all the way to 29th this season. The damned accusations of Jordan's defensive ineptness had to be proven true, didn't they? How else would all of us E.J. fans get our roasted crow served up?

The Sixers are allowing opponents to shoot a shocking 42 percent from three. The Kings take quite a few threes, and hit a damned good share of them, so this looks to be an opportunity for more of that. Meanwhile, the Sixers take few threes, and shoot them pretty poorly, and that has been a problem for the Kings defense, so it looks like we have a big advantage for Sacramento out on the perimeter.

Philadelphia has been awful on the defensive boards, which should allow Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes and Jon Brockman to get busy. But the Sixers are dominant on the offensive glass (eep!), and the Kings suck in that sector, so fire up some Brockman and K-9 and pray.

Tyreke Evans, should he play, needs to watch his dribble, as the 76ers generate many steals. Beno Udrih is infallible, and need not watch his dribble. Donte Greene always watches his dribble, quite literally, and so the subject shall be changed at this point.


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
Andre Iguodala 30 40.2 6.7 15.8 42.4 1.4 4.2 33.1 4.2 5.5 75.9 1.0 5.8 6.9 5.6 2.9 1.9 0.6 1.9 19.0
Louis Williams 18 33.7 5.7 12.1 47.0 1.1 3.8 27.9 3.0 3.7 81.8 0.4 3.0 3.4 4.8 1.7 1.7 0.2 1.9 15.4
Thaddeus Young 30 36.5 6.3 13.5 47.0 0.9 2.6 36.4 1.7 2.6 67.5 1.7 3.4 5.1 1.7 2.0 1.2 0.1 1.7 15.3
Allen Iverson 9 29.9 5.2 10.9 48.0 0.1 0.2 50.0 4.3 6.0 72.2 0.6 2.3 2.9 4.1 2.2 0.6 0.1 2.2 14.9
Elton Brand 27 30.6 5.3 10.9 48.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 3.7 81.8 3.1 4.0 7.1 1.1 1.8 1.1 1.3 3.3 13.6
Marreese Speights 16 22.9 5.3 9.6 54.5 0.0 0.1 0.0 2.8 3.6 75.9 2.7 3.4 6.1 0.6 1.4 0.5 0.7 2.8 13.3
Willie Green 29 21.6 3.2 7.2 45.0 0.6 1.6 34.0 1.7 1.9 87.3 0.3 1.6 1.9 2.7 0.9 0.5 0.3 1.9 8.7
Samuel Dalembert 30 24.3 2.7 5.6 47.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.1 1.4 81.0 2.8 5.5 8.3 1.3 1.8 0.4 2.0 3.3 6.5
Jrue Holiday 21 18.8 2.1 6.1 34.9 0.6 2.0 30.2 0.8 1.0 80.0 0.6 1.3 1.9 2.7 1.6 1.0 0.0 1.7 5.7
Jason Kapono 27 14.9 2.1 4.9 43.5 1.1 2.7 40.3 0.1 0.3 44.4 0.2 0.7 1.0 0.4 0.6 0.3 0.1 1.3 5.4
Jason Smith 24 12.2 1.3 3.2 39.0 0.3 0.9 38.1 0.6 0.9 68.2 0.8 1.4 2.2 0.6 0.7 0.3 0.6 2.0 3.5
Rodney Carney 26 11.5 1.2 3.2 35.7 0.4 1.5 27.5 0.5 0.7 82.4 0.4 1.3 1.7 0.6 0.3 0.5 0.3 1.2 3.3
Royal Ivey 19 8.6 0.9 2.0 44.7 0.4 0.7 50.0 0.2 0.3 80.0 0.2 0.8 1.1 0.6 0.2 0.4 0.1 0.9 2.4
Primoz Brezec 6 5.3 0.3 1.8 18.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.3 50.0 1.0 0.7 1.7 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.2 1.5 0.8


 

KEY BATTLE

Thaddeus Young vs. Jason Thompson. This should be a beast of an opportunity for Thompson, with Philly's undersized plan of attack (Young is smaller than Greene, and roughly Omri Casspi's size). But Elton Brand (dying but still skilled) and Marreese Speights could provide trouble off the bench, and Young has a versatile offensive game that will require focus and possibly trickery to defend. I think Thompson can do enough damage on the offensive glass to tilt this one, but he's got to be a stud on the other end for the Kings to safely waltz. (You never want to waltz in a dangerous situation!)

INTERESTING SIDESHOW

The three holiday home games -- Cleveland, L.A., Denver -- had amazing crowds: loud, active, smart. Good ol' day crowds. Will those same fans come out in droves for ... uh, Allen Iverson? Sweet Lou Williams? Easy Elton Brand? I think not. But it could be a good measuring stick for Sacramento's own power as a home draw, what with the undesirable visiting team.

BOLD PROCLAMATION

Jon Brockman will break a fan's nose. On accident, of course. Wink, wink.

NUMERIC PREDICTION

Kings by 5.

DETAILS

7 PM start. Game Thread Uno at 7, GT Dos at 8, post-gamer at 9:45, recap in a vending machine at the arcade under that roller rink on that street in that town.

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Bigger surprise: Westphal, Jordan, Saunders or Rambis?

and whatever happened to Ettore Messina?

Nostalgic for desperation I bring forth these questions before the roller coaster that was 2009 is officially over.

Iverson is no longer the Answer. But tipping hat to Alex Trebeck, his presence should be in the form of a question. As in; Why does Philly have to do to sell tickets to a team with decent talent and coaching that can’t seem to win?

The other A.I. is always entertaining and I like the match up he presents to Domré at the 3. I am looking forward to the match up of Spencer v. Dalembert – it should expose weaknesses of each.

BOLD PREDICTION: Noce will throw up at least 5 3pt-ers. Tyreke will not play resting up for the LAL/Mav back2back this weekend.

ESPN Accuscore has the Kings by 3, 109- 106.

by betweentheeyes on Dec 30, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

My Messina prediction

The new Russian Nets owner hires Messina in the off season.

by BrooklynFan on Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad we got Westphal

but I still think Messina would have been an awesome hire.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Dec 30, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sixers have a lot of talent

even if their record doesn’t look like it. Iverson’s old, but that doesn’t mean you should discount him.

Louis Williams was having a breakout season before he broke his jaw, and he’s the Poor Man’s NaPG in the East.

Mareese Speights is probably a better offensive player than JT right now, but he does not rebound, defend, or handle the ball nearly as well.

Thad Young is an iffy stretch 4, but he can put the ball in the bucket.

Iggy is by far Philly’s main threat and if Tyreke plays, I expect to see a lot of Iggy/Jrue Holiday on him, two very long athletic guys, and that could bother him a lot, especially with a bum ankle. And then they put Dalembert at the rim, which is pretty much the only place he’s good at. And I doubt Tyreke will play, if only to rest for the tough part of the schedule.

Brand is not himself, but he has shown some glimpses of Elton past lately, so that could be scary, especially for JT or Spence (who should have a good game, Dalembert is a zero on offense, so he’ll probably be on Speights half the time).

All in all I still think this is the Kings game to lose, but they have to come out with the same energy they did against Cleveland, LA, and Denver, and not play to their opponents level as they have tended to do a little bit this season (see @Minnesota, v. Chicago, @ Memphis).

If we win this game, the Kings will be 15-16 at the end of the December, something I had barely hoped for. I said if the Kings were at .500 at the end of December, I would consider them a legitimate playoff team. Let’s extend that to the end of January, for when Kevin comes back, and we face the toughest month of the season.

Go Kings tonight!

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

Sixers have a lot of talent, but....

It is very disperate and does not fit together well. Iggy is a good #2, but also needs the ball in his hands. Sweet Lou has become a better outside shooter this year, but also is best with a higher usage percentage. Iverson, well, you see a theme emerging.

Speights is talented but very raw. The epitome of a player who puts up good stats, but does not yet understand the game and is inconsistent. He can be a very good player in a few years, but right now hurts the Sixers as much as he helps them.

Brand is bad. Undersized players have shorter career arcs than normal sized, because once the athleticism goes, they are at a real disadvantage. Brand’s disentagration is not as bad as some others, because he is also skilled. But age and injuries have him quickly moving on the downside of his career. He’s heading towards the Kenny Thomas zone quickly.

Dalembert blocks and dunks, but has a low bball IQ and isn’t exactly “tough.” Not too worried about what he might do to our bigs in this one. If Spencer fails, Brock will push him around pretty easily.

As long as we play with the same focus and energy as we did the last 3 games, we should win this one easily. I am just scared that we come out soft as this is our one break between all the elite teams.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a dangerous team

I agree with many here that say they don’t fit that well together – but they have the capability of really putting it together for a night here or there, especially on the glass, our biggest weakness. If a few shots that don’t usually fall for them (not a good shooting team) do, its a real problem.

I’m pretty confidant Tyreke won’t play as BTE mentioned. They have to learn how to beat teams like this shorthanded and any chances this weekend depend on Reke being healthier.

With the small season ticket base this year and a lackluster opponent, I expect the crowd to be waaaay down. JT needs to have a big game and I think the chances are good for that as he knows it will be shown on TV back home.
It should be another ‘we can score more than them’ grind it out win.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Bold prediction.

AI, realizing he may not be the answer anymore, reveals his new persona.

""Balance your right to dissent, with your responsibility to contribute."
Gordan Ryan

by SavageBeast on Dec 30, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

The proctologist?

Makes sense, since he seems to be invasive and make every locker room he has been in this year uncomfortable.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

The Riddler

Though the gloves make you wonder.

StR Token Female

by LeaguePassAddict on Dec 30, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but back in the day all the villians and superheroes wore lots of spandex

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

""Balance your right to dissent, with your responsibility to contribute."
Gordan Ryan

by SavageBeast on Dec 30, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

and if you have visited your local gym

you know that spandex is a privilege not a right

by betweentheeyes on Dec 30, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh my gosh

I think that’s my crazy bi-sexual cousin.

""Balance your right to dissent, with your responsibility to contribute."
Gordan Ryan

by SavageBeast on Dec 30, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I was bysexual in high school

I would ask girls to have sex with me and they would say “bye”

by betweentheeyes on Dec 30, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow! Small world. What's his name?

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Dec 30, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of a Friends episode

They’ve been watching old movies.

Monica: The camera adds ten pounds.

Chandler: How many cameras are on you there?

StR Token Female

by LeaguePassAddict on Dec 30, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That gives me a vision -

Sean: I just lost 10 pounds.

Donté: If you turn around and look behind you, you’ll find it.

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by section214 on Dec 30, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Come on now

Learn your terminology, the question mark would make him the Bi-Curiousy. The Queery would ditch the question mark and be dressed much more fierce and fabulous.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Bi-curious

nice reference

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Dec 30, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Iverson rides again

The 76ers come into Sac with a 8-22 record with ½ their wins coming on the road (4-12). But for the first 24 games they didn’t have Allen Freekin Iverson. In the 6 games since AI joined the team they are 2-4 with road wins @ Boston and @ Portland. And, had road losses to Utah & Washington or 2-2 on the road.

Philly is a little undersized with their backcourt of AI & Williams both under 6’1". And, their starting frontcourt of Dalembert 6’11, Young 6’ 8" and Iguodala at 6’6" is on the small side when compared to the average NBA frontcourt. Even their reserves Brand 6’9" and Speights 6’10 and 245lbs; don’t help improve their size very much. Which is probably why they are 23rd in rebounding. They’re slightly better in rebounds allowed in 18th place, and are a remarkable 7th place in blocked shots.

Offensively they’re very good, and have only been held to less then 98 pts once in the last 7 games. Iguodala is averaging 20.1pts, 7.1reb, & 5 assts for December. AI is averaging 19pts, with 8 trips to the FT line in the last 4 games. And, Speights, Brand, Williams & Young are all averaging better than 14ppg for December. Dalembert is the only starter not in double digit scoring with 6.8ppg and 9rpg.

In last years final meeting here in Sac, the 76ers won 112 to 100 on (43-72) 60% FG% and (7-13) 54% from 3pt. While Kevin Martin & Will Solomon went 5-20 Field and 1-10 from 3pt range. The Kings won the rebounding battle, 40 to 34 in trb and 15-5 in offensive rebounds, due to Spencer’s 17/11 and JT’s 12/13 lines. The Kings hurt themselves by shooting 9-27 from 3pt range.

I expect the Kings to hold Tyreke out again this game even if the swelling is down. Not that we couldn’t use him, but the injury has been hanging on too long. We have the Lakers on Friday and a back to back on Saturday. Then there are only 4 games before the start of the 6 game east coast road trip, which is when I expect Martin to return. And, it would be heartbreaking if Tyreke wasn’t recovered when Martin returns.

I think we match up well with the exception of defending AI. I like Spence & JT against Dalembert and Young, and I’d pay money to see Brand and Brockman go head to head. Unfortunately, I’ll be out of town so I won’t be at the game. Guessing PW’s starting line up is like finding the Ace in a 3-card Monte game so I probably should go with the same starters as the Denver game. But, I just can’t see Omri defending AI. Who would have thought that only having 2 players under 6’6" would be a problem?

I’m guessing Donte starts on Iguodala who shoots jumpers 69% of the time with 1 out of 3 from 3pt range, but who shots 59% when he gets close to the basket so Donte is going to have to play him tight. AI is going to draw Omri since we only have 2 guards. Omri is going to have to play off AI and give him the outside jumper, where he takes 80% of his shots anyways. The problem is going to be not fouling him when he drives, because AI gets a third of his pts from the FT line.

Offensively, the Kings have to avoid turnovers. The 76ers, 4th in steals, will create enough turnovers without our help. I hope Noc’s shooting slump is over but I’m not expecting another game like the last one. I expect Beno & Sergio to see extended minutes especially if AI goes off. I also expect JT to have a double double, which of course means we win. And Donte will have a good game against Iguodala making it the 4th game in a row where he had to go up against the opposing teams leading scorer. If Omri does start against AI, I don’t think he’ll have any trouble scoring, since AI has been battling with a bout of Arthritis. There will be plenty of opportunities for 3pt shooting like last year. Philly is last in opponent 3pt shooting percentage, allowing 42% 3P% this season. So, we should take our time and look for open opportunities. There is no need to look for 3’s early in the shot clock.

If I’m wrong about Tyreke sitting this one out, it’s Kings by 11, 110 to 99. Otherwise, I pick the Kings to win 105 to 101. Go Kings.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Dec 30, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

Yeah, Greene

Just needs to do what he made LeBron, Kobe and Carmello do and it will work much, much better tonight. He did a great job forcing those three to shoot a lot of long two pointers. Unfortunatley, those 3 can hit those shots pretty consistently. Iggy puts up 5 16-23 footers per game and only hits 40%. If Greene can keep him chucking more of those shots, this could be a fun game to watch (well, for Kings fans at least).

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He definitely needs to keep Iggy from driving

Because he’s very good when he gets near the rim. Not so much at shooting jumpers. It’s a little bit like guarding Tyreke.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm flagging this post

for even mentioning W*** S******

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

And, well you should

but I felt forced to mention WS, as the quickest way to explain why we lost to the Sixers’ at home last year. And, as a reminder who was coaching without mentioning his name. I know that TZ is trying to clean up the foul language.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Dec 30, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

I actually had forgotten abour W*** S******, talk about my brain protecting me with selective memory. Thanks for the flashback jerk ;)

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

W*** S****

weak shit?

Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...

by edm7 on Dec 30, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Pretty much.

[Will Solomon if you really didn’t know]

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, I knew

Aykis and I share the same hatred for that guy. Couldn’t stand when he played for us last year. Least favorite Kings ever (modern era)

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by edm7 on Dec 30, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Solomon tried,

but he couldn’t displace Jason Hart as my least favorite. He sucked and demanded “play me or trade me.”

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by section214 on Dec 30, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure he told the same thing

to the other 14 teams he played for

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by edm7 on Dec 30, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He'll be...

telling that to the lower level European teams and the Globetrotters soon.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad you mentioned Speights.

Speights can be a big contributor to their offense and is capable of a double double. I look forward to seeing how well our bigs defend Brand’s post moves and Speights’ hustle.

It’s always nice seeing new challengers for Brockman’s cage title.

Donte vs. Iggy will be thrilling. I expect Beno and Ime to guard AI. Can they keep up with an Answer that’s lost two steps? I think so.

I think this game will be tough with or without Tyreke (I’m hoping the Kings rest him for optimum health). The Sixers defeated well rested Boston and Portland teams on the road. Both victories came from behind in the second half, which says a lot about their heart and execution. I’m thinking the Kings will have no letdown tonight and carry their excellence from the Denver win to this game. Spence, use a pump fake tonight, big fella. Go Kings!

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Dec 30, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

if tyreke sits, can't you start Sergio and Beno?

Especially since their backcourt is so short, as you mentioned.

There is no way either Iverson or Williams can contain Sergio. I say start Sergio, and push the tempo with a small line-up for a bit. Play Donté, Omri, and Andres all at once with Thompson at the 5. We should be able to run them off our floor. Especially if the play Brand and Dalembert at all.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Dec 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

possibly

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Playing Beno & Sergio together would be fine, but someone still has to backup at 2

when one of them rests. And, they’d both have to play extended minute, with one of the on the court the entire game. We don’t have anyone else to bring up the ball under pressure. And, as I pointed out, the 76ers are 4th in steals.

I’m hoping that with AI having lost a step, Omri & Udoka will be able to cover him. If they can’t then we might have to switch to our 2 guard backcourt.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Dec 30, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

how many minutes is Iverson getting?

I think Udoka can come in and do decent on him, actually. I will be surprised if Iverson gets more than 30 minutes, with his arthritic knee.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Dec 30, 2009 3:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He played 31 minutes in Portland

after missing 4 games. Before that, he averaged 34 minutes a night in the previous 5 games.

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by section214 on Dec 30, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

PW likes bringing Sergio off of the bench. Start the game with a more stable lineup and then bring in Sergio to provide a spark and some energy with the second unit. While you could start him in this match up, I am not sure who would play PG when Beno needed a rest with Reke out.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Dec 30, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

if tyreke sits, can't you start Sergio and Beno?

Especially since their backcourt is so short, as you mentioned.

There is no way either Iverson or Williams can contain Sergio. I say start Sergio, and push the tempo with a small line-up for a bit. Play Donté, Omri, and Andres all at once with Thompson at the 5. We should be able to run them off our floor. Especially if they play Brand and Dalembert at all.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Dec 30, 2009 2:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

no way

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

ah, gosh darned handheld devices!

Nice set up for ya, though, lttg

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Dec 30, 2009 2:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yep, dangerous game

I hope we don’t overlook this team. Also looking forward to the Brand-Brockman tango-tangle.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 30, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Just wanted to say I won the Ball Don't Lie create a caption involving Noc

Proof

Picture:

Winner, Akis Y:
Birdman: “It’s so good talking to another South American.”
Noc: “Get out, I didn’t know you were from South America!”
Birdman: “Well, Colombia made me an honorary citizen a couple years ago, for my … contributions.”

Going for 2 in a row! Outfunnying Yahoo users in the comment section is almost child’s play.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Nice!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome!

Somebody tell me that the Birdman is not Kevin Bacon’s long lost brother.

""Balance your right to dissent, with your responsibility to contribute."
Gordan Ryan

by SavageBeast on Dec 30, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Philly has more intelligence

With Allen Iverson on the roster than most Yahoo commenters.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Donte always watches his dribble, quite literally.

Is definitely going to be my new sig. Great preview. I think JT and Spence wreak havok tonite, Kings by 13.

by MichaelMack on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Bold prediction

Sections 214 and 215 won’t be as loud as they were two nights ago.

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by section214 on Dec 30, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

Sigh....

Peaches is a tool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 30, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Bold prediction

AIs tatoos will outnumber those of the entire Kings roster

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know

Donte has a lot himself.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 30, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping they don't look at the abysmal record of Philly and

take the night off. I know every player says they don’t overlook any opponent, but after their great play against the elite teams (the past 3 games) in the NBA I wonder how the young Kings will respond to a team they should beat by double digits at home?

Ba-da

by Ba-Da Bing on Dec 30, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

They have had a few off games

but with the Denver game being an really exciting win, and with an other chance to go at the Lakers on Friday, there going to want to keep the excitement alive. I expect them to get off to a great start at home against a team they match up with very well.

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by HighTops on Dec 30, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a must-win to keep the recent good feeling fest alive

Side note:

Iguodala has to be the worst “franchise player” in the NBA. Not saying he is a bad player by any means, but if this is the guy you are “building around,” the finished product of your building ain’t gonna be that impressive.

Absolutely no comparative analysis went into this: snap decision. I am surprised he has so many assists. Don’t like the shooting percentage or the FTA #’s though. Again, no analysis, but the guy has his hands on the ball all the time (see: assist stats) and shoot be getting to the line more than that IMO

Thoughts?

by lchristmas on Dec 30, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

Tough to say this is a must win

When Phili just beat Boston and Portland on the road. That being said, I think we win. Which is great for us EJ haters from all the way back. What were there, three of us?

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by SavageBeast on Dec 30, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Sixers are coming off an impressive win

in Portland. When’s the last time the Kings went up to Portland and won? The Kings better not take these guys lightly.

by KingsFan on Dec 30, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Iguodala is a very good player and I disagree with you

If I had to say who the worst best player on their team in the league is I would say… well New York doesn’t even have one, Chicago’s best players are Rose and Deng and they’re not at Iggy’s level yet, although Rose will eventually be better, New Jersey has Harris and Lopez. There’s quite a few more I could list that I would prefer less than Iggy.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Gay

if you know what I mean.

Who is the Rockets best?

by betweentheeyes on Dec 30, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Gay has actually been playing very well this year

But yes I do know what you mean. It’s also possible (and very likely in my opinion) that he is playing so well because it is a contract year for him. I think Minnesota will go after Gay and overpay for him.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

If they do

That will be a very impressive young front court.

by MichaelMack on Dec 30, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Iguodala

He’s comparable to Martin, perhaps a little better all around. A very, very good player, but not a franchise cornerstone.

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by section214 on Dec 30, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say

Iguodala is more a power player. Martin is pure finesse.

by KingsFan on Dec 30, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

this is kind of pointless as its hard to factor in age/position/injury (yao) and also who cares… but I guess what I meant was those considered “franchise players” by fans/media and PAYCHECK… I don’t think ny/nj has anybody in that convo…

I take rose over iggy right now, I am not a deng fan. its hard to compare kmart to iggy as iggy is an all around 3 and kmart is a dynamic scoring 2. I would take kmart if im starting a team. I think his skill set is more unique.

one guy who comes to mind in this discussion is michael redd though bj is on the come….

2 thoughts as I just listened to the donte interview

1. we got dg and omri for what would have been 1 yr of a miserable malcontent ron ron – in geoff we trust

2. you cannot overstate how big a tool peaches is and I hope he gets his dream job in ny soon and it infuriates me that he is the voice of my kings

by lchristmas on Dec 30, 2009 4:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

nice post

I live in Seattle now, and watch every Kings game on League Pass, and am stuck when the announcers are Jerry and Peaches. At least when I lived in Sacramento, I could turn the TV volume down and listen to GG.

by MichaelMack on Dec 30, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather have K-Mart than Iguodala

for this Kings team. Because while I hate the people that cry about how Tyreke and Kevin won’t mesh, I would be one of those people who says Tyreke and Iggy can’t play together. Their games are too similar and Iggy isn’t a good enough outside shooter. That would be a hellacious defensive backcourt though.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They have that Jrue Holliday kid

Not starting out as quick as Evans apparently.

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by otis29 on Dec 30, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Didn't Chad Ford have him being taken at #4 by us for like 5 weeks?

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by Aykis16 on Dec 30, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

it sure looked like he was going to be the one

he has a lot of skills – very ambidextrous, good defender, court vision, but not a lot of college experience and now stuck in Philly without brotherly love.

by betweentheeyes on Dec 30, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I never believed petrie was really considering this and i’m so glad I was right

by lchristmas on Dec 30, 2009 4:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That's why I mentioned him

For a few weeks there, Jrue sounded like a done deal for the Kings.

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by otis29 on Dec 30, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

On my way to the game

GO KINGS!

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by lietothegirls on Dec 30, 2009 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

The crowd

Tonight, we won’t have as many fans as the holiday crowd but I really think people are starting to get excited about this team for the first time in a while — like falling in love all over again. There is a noticeable buzz among Kings fans everywhere. Petrie’s extension could not have come at a more pefect time.

Soon, Arco will be rocking again, just wait and see. Maybe not tonight, but soon…

The Kings need to come at Philly w/the same rock star intensity of the last three games.

by MadProphet on Dec 30, 2009 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

Wait, is a home game getting double-game-thread treatment?

Have we made a difference?

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by iashwash on Dec 30, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

(Haha – no, this was a joke between Kfan and I during the game thread for the Denver game, where part of the reasoning for shooting for 1000 posts was to highlight the unfairness to out-of-towners for giving us single post games)

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by iashwash on Dec 30, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

you know I was kidding

After 800 or so posts things get slow for me.

by southern oregon on Dec 30, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It was definitely slow when we were shooting for 1000

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by SavageBeast on Dec 30, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

League watch

Jersey about to win their 3rd game this season. Up 11 on the Knicks with 1.40 left in the 4th

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by edm7 on Dec 30, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

No go

Per Kings twitter

Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...

by edm7 on Dec 30, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Link

here

Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...

by edm7 on Dec 30, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

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