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Yet Another Post About Tyreke Evans

I consider myself a man of the people.  I thought to myself the other day, what are people craving?  What does the average Kings fan feel like they are lacking.  Like Iverson to Philly, the answer came to me.  The people want an article about Tyreke Evans, our rookie that has had absolutely nothing written about him recently.

Much is being made of Tyreke Evans' stats.  Scoring, rebounding, assists, Evans has been filling the stat sheets.  It's been quite impressive.  As the recent fan shot showed, the stats have compared well to other NBA stars.

But equally impressive, and lost amongst our fantasy sports existence, has been Tyreke's defense.  I'm not going to try to explain Tyreke's defense to you, because that would go completely against the rest of what I'm going to discuss.  I'm going to explore the potential crossroads that Tyreke faces.

Star-divide

You can be a star in this league without playing defense.  You can be an All-Star.  You can be an MVP-candidate.  Ideally, and NBA superstar is dominant on both ends of the floor.  Realistically, most offensive stars only turn it on defensively when the absolutely must.

A star like LeBron is capable of being a lockdown defender, but rarely does he fully exert himself defensively unless he's in a marquee match-up.  I'm not trying to single out LeBron in particular, quite a few stars do this.  And honestly, it's hard to blame them.  It's a long season, and playing all-out on both ends of the floor is exhausting.

Some stars gave up on defense a long time ago.  Players like Tracy McGrady have earned reputations as guys who do not put effort into their defense at all.  The live on offense, put up gaudy numbers, and have been rewarded.  It's tough to remember now, but McGrady was recently in conversations for MVP consideration, and is still amongst the top-paid NBA players this season.

The other thing to remember is that offensive stats are notoriously more correlated to new contract dollars.  Nobody is lining up to give a max contract to Shane Battier.  The financial incentive in this league is directed towards offense.

Some stars have dedicated themselves to offense and defense.  The first player that jumps to my mind is a guy like Kevin Garnett.  To be honest though, I haven't watched him a lot recently and he might be riding on his reputation these days.  The trap of these stars is that there will be times when effort on defense results in a decrease in offensive stats.  A player only has a certain amount of energy.  O

Right now we don't know what kind of player Tyreke will become.  He could become a player who dominates both ends.  He could become a guy who only turns up the defensive effort for marquee opponents.  Or he could abandon his defensive intensity altogether.

Personally, I don't see him abandoning his defense.  It doesn't seem like the type of guy he is.

But I do wonder if he'll maintain his intensity.  I hope he does.  I'd rather have a dominant player on both ends, even if it means the offense is slightly less potent.

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Like Iverson to Philly, the answer came to me.

Rec’d for that comment alone.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Ditto.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Dec 4, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a great line

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

me too

then I thought. Wow, I love me some man of the people G. Peeps. StR’s own Abraham Lincoln. Versus TZ’s and Section’s elitism.

I think that most casual fans will look at ‘Reke and think he’s hardly playing exerting himself on either end. Easy ’Reke, man of the peeps.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Dec 5, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm an elitist?

I guess that I should put on some pants.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Dec 5, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Take the car off Cinderblocks too

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

crap................I forgot

(sarcasm)

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Dec 7, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

McGrady IS the highest paid NBA player

Ouch!
More later

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

I thought he was

Did a quick search and didn’t find it.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Dec 4, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

The 3 highest paid players are Jermaine O'Neal, Kobe Bryant and Jermaine O'Neal

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I take that back

Kobe IS making slightly more money than Jermaine O’Neal is.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you meant

McGrady, Kobe, J O’neil

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

Kobe, JO and then T-Mac.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I definitely haven’t had enough Tyreke stories lately

Now all I need is another:

Climate change story
Michael Jackson movie
Leftover turkey sandwich
Christmas Carol remake
Holiday family newsletter
and K-Mart trade suggestion

Sorry. Well written post, I’m just a little ’Reke’d out at the moment.

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on Dec 4, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

Oh and more

Tiger Woods news. Can’t get enough of that!

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on Dec 4, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

How about Iverson news?

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

uhg - I stopped reading that crap

didn’t even watch the ‘tears’ interview

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

And that freaking

Maynor is EVERYWHERE! Yeah, we get it. He’s amazing!

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric Maynor

is the reason why Waldo is hiding.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

How about the party crashing

We need some of our own NBA type party crashing. Maybe some Ron-Ron news how he crashed K@be sex party.

by MustangMBS on Dec 4, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm disappointed that so many great Brockman jokes are now being diverted to Maynor.

I refuse to cheat on Mancakes’ legend like that. Aykis, you hussy!

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched the interview

and I couldn’t stop laughing.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I included an Iverson reference for you

Like I said, man of the people.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Dec 4, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is this

BRENT Favre? That pic is either very sarcastically funny or completely idiotic. Either way it’s funny.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Dec 5, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Then there is the third type of defender

the type that knows when to turn it on & off. MJ was a great defender, but he didn’t go at in 100% of the time. But, there were those special moments. Of course, going up against another marque player was one, but there were also times when the game was getting away. When teams were making their runs, and MJ would rise up and put an end to the run defensively & offensively. But, the most defining moments were at the end of games when the outcome was uncertain. MJ & Pippen would rise up their defensive intensity and take over the game. In Chicago, we called it “letting out the dogs”.

Martin & Tyreke are already 1 & 2 in SPG for the Kings. I’ll we happy with solid defense. But, if they can up the intensity when the game is on the line, make that steal, block that shot, and end that run, you’ll hear a might howl from this dog.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Dec 4, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

+1.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Dec 4, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Some good thoughts...

I see Tyreke as being that needed offensive star that usually plays stout defense. With the return of Martin, I think that could help him focus on the defensive side of things, as Martin can still drop 20+ any given night. And I fully expect Tyreke to be near that 20 ppg mark night in and night out…that’s 40-50 points a night right there. Get one more horse going(Hawes/Thompson/WABENO)….then you got 60-70 points out of three players…you’d hope the other 5 players that typically play could conjure up 30-40 points(6-8 points a piece) FTW.

by Smills91 on Dec 4, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Damn you Andy

You made me laugh while on the phone with a customer.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Dec 4, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

1-900-HOT-STUD?

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do you phrase it like a question?

You and I both know you’re a regular customer.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Dec 5, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

BURN

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 5, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I think High Tops said it best...

I’d rather have Tyreke conserve his energy for offense if the Kings really need scoring at the time. Even the greatest players (MJ, Kobe, and LeBron) usually only play high intensity lock down defense when it comes to the crucial moments in the game.

Also, the great ones always had the luxury of fellow teammates that could be used to hold the opposing teams’ best offensive players down which allowed them to focus on offense (MJ had Pippen/Rodzilla, Kobe had/has Ariza/Artest and Magic had Cooper). Unfortunately, Tyreke is arguably the Kings best option on Defense and Offense (we’ll further discuss this when Kevin gets back).

Donte, Udoka or Noc have been doing decent jobs of taking on the best scorer for the most part. I don’t see Tyreke letting down on the defensive end. I’m sure he knows when conserve his energy and when to truly ‘turn it on’ and shut someone else with star-caliber talent down.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Dec 4, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

The reason Petrie drafted Evans

Was because he had the talent, ability, and desire to play both sides of the ball. That is the goal of this team now. The Kings are more on the gritty, dirty side of plays than they have ever been. And a lot of that has to do with Evans (a lot has to do with coaching, and players like Nocioni, Udoka, Thomas, Brockman, and Thompson as well.) I don’t see Evans becoming so disinterested in defense that he hurts the team.

It is interesting that while you don’t have to play D to be a star, you usually do have to at least show some effort to be on that uber-star level. Kobe, Wade, James can all lock down their opponents (so can a healthy Duncan, Howard, and and Garnett, but we are talking about guards here, even though, please note, Garnett was in MVP discussions 2 years ago based on defense alone, as he consistently was a leader on D, and was not the teams primary weapon on offense.)
Players like Melo, Bosh, Nowitzki are in MVP discussions this year, but nobody has them on the same level as the other guys because they all have been inconsistent on defense.

I think it is interesting to bring up Battier. There isn’t a coach in the league who wouldn’t want 3 or 4 Battier type players. But they will also say that they need 1 or 2 guys who can score a bunch to in order to win. I think that the Kings are doing a fine job in building a team that is similar to that; we got Kevin to score, but the team as a whole is focusing on defensive effort. The defensive smarts are all the way there yet, but they will improve. Think about how OKC jumped from 23rd to 7th in defensive rankings.

Overall, Evans has the best defense of any rookie out there. Even better than Thabeet. But if he has to pick and choose in order to help this team on offense, I don’t mind that either. That is exactly what Wade, Kobe, LeBron do. And it isn’t something to be criticized. What we really should hope for is the team getting better playing defense together- individual defense is great, but team defense wins championships. See Pistons 2004, Celtics 2008, Lakers 2009, the Spurs ever.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Dec 4, 2009 2:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

On a side note:

How freaking weird, awesome, and scary would it be if we could clone players, and build a team with 3 Battiers, a Chris Paul, and a decent center.

Basically trade David West, Peja Stojakovic, and who ever they play at 2 for 3 Shane Battiers down in NO. Would they be pretty. No, would they be better? I think so.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Dec 4, 2009 3:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Rookie of the Year honors should take this into consideration.

Reke and Jennings are virtually tied at this point offensively. Add defense and there is simply no contest.

Reke can also play three possibly 4 positions while Jennings can only play one.

Its like comparing Garnett to Iverson. Who do you want on your team?

Iverson doesn’t win championships just scoring records.

by nothingbutnet on Dec 4, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone craving for an article about Nocioni?

Great post. Just making visible the deep south people’s needs. :)

by palomba on Dec 5, 2009 5:46 AM PST reply actions  

No news about Noc is good news as far as I'm concerned

I’m a huge proponent of that you don’t create news just to make some. And I say that with all due respect towards Noc’s fans around the world.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

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