Yet Another Post About Tyreke Evans
I consider myself a man of the people. I thought to myself the other day, what are people craving? What does the average Kings fan feel like they are lacking. Like Iverson to Philly, the answer came to me. The people want an article about Tyreke Evans, our rookie that has had absolutely nothing written about him recently.
Much is being made of Tyreke Evans' stats. Scoring, rebounding, assists, Evans has been filling the stat sheets. It's been quite impressive. As the recent fan shot showed, the stats have compared well to other NBA stars.
But equally impressive, and lost amongst our fantasy sports existence, has been Tyreke's defense. I'm not going to try to explain Tyreke's defense to you, because that would go completely against the rest of what I'm going to discuss. I'm going to explore the potential crossroads that Tyreke faces.
You can be a star in this league without playing defense. You can be an All-Star. You can be an MVP-candidate. Ideally, and NBA superstar is dominant on both ends of the floor. Realistically, most offensive stars only turn it on defensively when the absolutely must.A star like LeBron is capable of being a lockdown defender, but rarely does he fully exert himself defensively unless he's in a marquee match-up. I'm not trying to single out LeBron in particular, quite a few stars do this. And honestly, it's hard to blame them. It's a long season, and playing all-out on both ends of the floor is exhausting.
Some stars gave up on defense a long time ago. Players like Tracy McGrady have earned reputations as guys who do not put effort into their defense at all. The live on offense, put up gaudy numbers, and have been rewarded. It's tough to remember now, but McGrady was recently in conversations for MVP consideration, and is still amongst the top-paid NBA players this season.
The other thing to remember is that offensive stats are notoriously more correlated to new contract dollars. Nobody is lining up to give a max contract to Shane Battier. The financial incentive in this league is directed towards offense.
Some stars have dedicated themselves to offense and defense. The first player that jumps to my mind is a guy like Kevin Garnett. To be honest though, I haven't watched him a lot recently and he might be riding on his reputation these days. The trap of these stars is that there will be times when effort on defense results in a decrease in offensive stats. A player only has a certain amount of energy. O
Right now we don't know what kind of player Tyreke will become. He could become a player who dominates both ends. He could become a guy who only turns up the defensive effort for marquee opponents. Or he could abandon his defensive intensity altogether.
Personally, I don't see him abandoning his defense. It doesn't seem like the type of guy he is.
But I do wonder if he'll maintain his intensity. I hope he does. I'd rather have a dominant player on both ends, even if it means the offense is slightly less potent.
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Like Iverson to Philly, the answer came to me.
Rec’d for that comment alone.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions
That is a great line
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
me too
then I thought. Wow, I love me some man of the people G. Peeps. StR’s own Abraham Lincoln. Versus TZ’s and Section’s elitism.
I think that most casual fans will look at ‘Reke and think he’s hardly playing exerting himself on either end. Easy ’Reke, man of the peeps.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
I'm an elitist?
I guess that I should put on some pants.
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by section214 on Dec 5, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Take the car off Cinderblocks too
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
crap................I forgot
(sarcasm)
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
McGrady IS the highest paid NBA player
Ouch!
More later
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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The 3 highest paid players are Jermaine O'Neal, Kobe Bryant and Jermaine O'Neal
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Actually I take that back
Kobe IS making slightly more money than Jermaine O’Neal is.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I think you meant
McGrady, Kobe, J O’neil
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Thanks
I definitely haven’t had enough Tyreke stories lately
Now all I need is another:
Climate change story
Michael Jackson movie
Leftover turkey sandwich
Christmas Carol remake
Holiday family newsletter
and K-Mart trade suggestion
Sorry. Well written post, I’m just a little ’Reke’d out at the moment.
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Vfettke
How about Iverson news?
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uhg - I stopped reading that crap
didn’t even watch the ‘tears’ interview
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Eric Maynor
is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
How about the party crashing
We need some of our own NBA type party crashing. Maybe some Ron-Ron news how he crashed K@be sex party.
I'm disappointed that so many great Brockman jokes are now being diverted to Maynor.
I refuse to cheat on Mancakes’ legend like that. Aykis, you hussy!
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
I watched the interview
and I couldn’t stop laughing.
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I included an Iverson reference for you
Like I said, man of the people.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Who is this
BRENT Favre? That pic is either very sarcastically funny or completely idiotic. Either way it’s funny.
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by Kfan in Korea on Dec 5, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Then there is the third type of defender
the type that knows when to turn it on & off. MJ was a great defender, but he didn’t go at in 100% of the time. But, there were those special moments. Of course, going up against another marque player was one, but there were also times when the game was getting away. When teams were making their runs, and MJ would rise up and put an end to the run defensively & offensively. But, the most defining moments were at the end of games when the outcome was uncertain. MJ & Pippen would rise up their defensive intensity and take over the game. In Chicago, we called it “letting out the dogs”.
Martin & Tyreke are already 1 & 2 in SPG for the Kings. I’ll we happy with solid defense. But, if they can up the intensity when the game is on the line, make that steal, block that shot, and end that run, you’ll hear a might howl from this dog.
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Some good thoughts...
I see Tyreke as being that needed offensive star that usually plays stout defense. With the return of Martin, I think that could help him focus on the defensive side of things, as Martin can still drop 20+ any given night. And I fully expect Tyreke to be near that 20 ppg mark night in and night out…that’s 40-50 points a night right there. Get one more horse going(Hawes/Thompson/WABENO)….then you got 60-70 points out of three players…you’d hope the other 5 players that typically play could conjure up 30-40 points(6-8 points a piece) FTW.
Who the hell is Tyreke Evans?
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by andy sims on Dec 4, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
Damn you Andy
You made me laugh while on the phone with a customer.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
1-900-HOT-STUD?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Why do you phrase it like a question?
You and I both know you’re a regular customer.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Dec 5, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BURN
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 5, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
I think High Tops said it best...
I’d rather have Tyreke conserve his energy for offense if the Kings really need scoring at the time. Even the greatest players (MJ, Kobe, and LeBron) usually only play high intensity lock down defense when it comes to the crucial moments in the game.
Also, the great ones always had the luxury of fellow teammates that could be used to hold the opposing teams’ best offensive players down which allowed them to focus on offense (MJ had Pippen/Rodzilla, Kobe had/has Ariza/Artest and Magic had Cooper). Unfortunately, Tyreke is arguably the Kings best option on Defense and Offense (we’ll further discuss this when Kevin gets back).
Donte, Udoka or Noc have been doing decent jobs of taking on the best scorer for the most part. I don’t see Tyreke letting down on the defensive end. I’m sure he knows when conserve his energy and when to truly ‘turn it on’ and shut someone else with star-caliber talent down.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
The reason Petrie drafted Evans
Was because he had the talent, ability, and desire to play both sides of the ball. That is the goal of this team now. The Kings are more on the gritty, dirty side of plays than they have ever been. And a lot of that has to do with Evans (a lot has to do with coaching, and players like Nocioni, Udoka, Thomas, Brockman, and Thompson as well.) I don’t see Evans becoming so disinterested in defense that he hurts the team.
It is interesting that while you don’t have to play D to be a star, you usually do have to at least show some effort to be on that uber-star level. Kobe, Wade, James can all lock down their opponents (so can a healthy Duncan, Howard, and and Garnett, but we are talking about guards here, even though, please note, Garnett was in MVP discussions 2 years ago based on defense alone, as he consistently was a leader on D, and was not the teams primary weapon on offense.)
Players like Melo, Bosh, Nowitzki are in MVP discussions this year, but nobody has them on the same level as the other guys because they all have been inconsistent on defense.
I think it is interesting to bring up Battier. There isn’t a coach in the league who wouldn’t want 3 or 4 Battier type players. But they will also say that they need 1 or 2 guys who can score a bunch to in order to win. I think that the Kings are doing a fine job in building a team that is similar to that; we got Kevin to score, but the team as a whole is focusing on defensive effort. The defensive smarts are all the way there yet, but they will improve. Think about how OKC jumped from 23rd to 7th in defensive rankings.
Overall, Evans has the best defense of any rookie out there. Even better than Thabeet. But if he has to pick and choose in order to help this team on offense, I don’t mind that either. That is exactly what Wade, Kobe, LeBron do. And it isn’t something to be criticized. What we really should hope for is the team getting better playing defense together- individual defense is great, but team defense wins championships. See Pistons 2004, Celtics 2008, Lakers 2009, the Spurs ever.
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by Ice_9ine on Dec 4, 2009 2:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
On a side note:
How freaking weird, awesome, and scary would it be if we could clone players, and build a team with 3 Battiers, a Chris Paul, and a decent center.
Basically trade David West, Peja Stojakovic, and who ever they play at 2 for 3 Shane Battiers down in NO. Would they be pretty. No, would they be better? I think so.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Dec 4, 2009 3:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
My 5 Teen Wolves would eat two of your Battiers
but let you keep George Shinn
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2009 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
Rookie of the Year honors should take this into consideration.
Reke and Jennings are virtually tied at this point offensively. Add defense and there is simply no contest.
Reke can also play three possibly 4 positions while Jennings can only play one.
Its like comparing Garnett to Iverson. Who do you want on your team?
Iverson doesn’t win championships just scoring records.
Anyone craving for an article about Nocioni?
Great post. Just making visible the deep south people’s needs. :)
No news about Noc is good news as far as I'm concerned
I’m a huge proponent of that you don’t create news just to make some. And I say that with all due respect towards Noc’s fans around the world.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea


























