With the 1st Pick in the 2009 Draft, the Kings select....
by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 12:16 PM PST
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I've been curious about this for a few weeks now, so I figured I would post a poll and find the answer. Everyone in Sacramento is absolutely in love with Tyreke Evans. However, Brandon Jennings is looking pretty damn good as well. And of course let's not forget Blake Griffin, and just for the hell of it, Ricky Rubio.
I've included the top 10 picks of our community draft board. Our picks are actually looking pretty solid, except for the glaring omission of Johnny Flynn in the top 10. However, these picks were made before a lot of the workouts and information gathering occurred.
Sactown Royalty's Community Draft Board '09:
1. Blake Griffin
1. Ricky Rubio
3. Brandon Jennings
4. Tyreke Evans
5. Hasheem Thabeet
6. Stephen Curry
7. Ty Lawson
8. James Harden
9. Jrue Holiday
10. Demar DeRozan
So...Let's wind back the clock and pretend we miraculously won the Draft Lottery. Knowing what you know now, who would you select as the #1 Overall choice?
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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I think my opinion is known.
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by tomroadrunner on Dec 4, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I share your opinion.
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm voting Rubio
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by edm7 on Dec 4, 2009 12:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Blake Griffin
You can’t assume he blows out his knee, and without that assumption, you gotta take Blake.
That said, I’d take Tyreke without hesitation.
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's not done for the year
Still a chance he wins ROY in fact. But the poll clearly states “Knowing what you know now…” Haha jk
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a little early for revisionist history
A better q)
when you look back at
2007, would you still take hawes over stuckey, Thaddeus Young, Al Thornton, Aaron Brooks, Rudy Fernandez?
in
2008: JT over Randolph? May look good now but in 3 years when Randolph is 23 and a potential star… hmmm
(also passed on hibbert)
by tafkasam on Dec 4, 2009 12:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rookies are more fun to discuss
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just remembering all the
“NOOOOOOOO”
“WHAT THE HELL?!?!”
when we passed on Rubio. Obviously people don’t feel that way anymore. But do we like Tyreke so much that we like him better than Griffin at this point? That’s what I want to know.
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We haven't had a chance to see Griffin play yet
So this is a bit early in my opinion.
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by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll post another one in 3 months
Then we can compare everything. Gauge opinions at every point :)
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
when you got 1 like tyreke, oooh yeaah.
by tafkasam on Dec 4, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol the real joke is minnesota/NYC.... desperate for PGs
pass on jennings
by tafkasam on Dec 4, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flynn aint bad himself
He’s being held on a tight leash by Rambis though.
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by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yup
The kid is shorter, but he is physically impressive. You know he just wants to get out there and run all over people.
New York, however, could have Jennings and Lopez in their rotation right now. Scary.
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gallinari is a nice player
though lopez and e-gordy r better
by tafkasam on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
e-gordy got drafted with Lopez - NY couldn't pick both up.
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but one or the other. I think they need an eddie gordon type player
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by Robby1987 on Dec 4, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eric gordon
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Other
Brockness.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
HAHAHA
I was wondering who voted other.
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually voted 'Reke
and then my sense of humor caught up later.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 4, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nice
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thabeet!!
:)
"When talent is roughly equal," said Westphal, "the competitive guys win. You have to have that in this league. Here's a perfect example: We (the Phoenix Suns) drafted Tim Perry and Dan Majerle the same year (1988). Now, if you get a stopwatch for down and back (baseline to baseline sprint), Tim Perry was faster than Dan Majerle. That's a fact. But if you had them race, Dan Majerle won. I can't explain it. Somehow, he had that drive, that fire, something inside him. If you have enough guys like that, your team starts winning again."
by kingsbruins02 on Dec 4, 2009 1:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
funny
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by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a little early grasshopper
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't believe no one has said it yet
Eric Maynor!
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by edm7 on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he implied?
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by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the draft was to be redone
Maynor would have never made it – there would have been a huge bidding war to sign him outright.
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clippers might have taken LeBron for the #1
so that Cleveland could draft Maynor. Maybe.
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by Aykis16 on Dec 4, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the Clippers do that deal?
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by iashwash on Dec 4, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Griffin
I’m happy that we have Evans (thrilled, in fact), but I’d still lean towards Griffin. Let’s discuss this after BG has had a chance to suit up and play a bit.
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by section214 on Dec 4, 2009 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that was my vote as well
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hesitantly voted Evans because the known is too good to pass up.
Secondarily, if BGriffin is the choice than in this strong PG draft – if the Kings don’t trade down (?#31 and #23 for Ty Lawson? Maynor?) than this season looks vastly different.
The Kings played the future and the strength of the draft, which was point guards. This upcoming lottery it is big men, but the #1 pick will possibly be a point guard (JWall). It would be counter intuitive to expect the Kings to get the #1 pick, so a big man will be available in June.
Lastly, Evans is the favorite at this time to be the RoY with “LeBron like numbers”. It is easier to find a high level power forward than a point guard. Therefore; the choice is Evans.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's hard to find franchise players
I have no doubt Evans can be that. I do have my doubt that Griffin could be.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. bird in the hand...
and this is some bird. Evans is the real deal, no arguing, no waiting or guessing.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was funny
A few weeks ago I was reading something by Chad Ford on draft night that struck me as a bit funny:
I thought the Kings ultimately would do the right thing and take Rubio, but instead they take Evans. He’s not a point guard. But he’s a physical combo guard who knows how to get to the rim. He can’t shoot much and isn’t super athletic, but he’s big and strong and he’ll make an impact right away. This was a short-term pick. It will look good early, but I wonder how it will look in five years.
Funny how Ford got it right that he’ll make an impact right away. He just didn’t think that Evans would like a near All-Star so early on. LOL
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
faux augury
I would say he should stick to his day job – but I am not impressed with that.
At least he got the impress early part right. Does he think Tyreke won’t improve? I can’t figure out his logic on this.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't either actually
I did laugh reading that at the time. How does a player improve more over time than another player? Ford is a pundit, and he almost certainly got this wrong. Oh well….. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
to beat a dead horse on this...
does he realize that Tyreke Evans just turned 20?
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't care
He really doesn’t. Ford believes that Rubio will be a great star in the NBA. Jerry Reynolds and the Kings basketball staff believe Tyreke Evans will be. I’ll take the Kings staff every time even if I curse them out on draft day.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
pundits are like weather forecasters
oh it rained on your picnic? sorry.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Heh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 6, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think Griffin will get more votes after that. I also think JT and Hawes’ relatively strong play has stopped the clamoring for a big a bit.
But I definitely want to gauge this more as the season progresses and we see Griffin (and KMart) back.
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on Griffin
This is going to be like the Durant vs Oden discusions. And, will probably take as many years to resolve.
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by HighTops on Dec 4, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It will definitely be intesting to look back in five years
since we haven’t seen two of the guys in the top five play a game in the NBA yet. Especially considering how weak this draft was supposed to be.
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by SavageBeast on Dec 4, 2009 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rubio, then Jennings before
Voted Rubio because of what seems to be his solid play making skills and defense and voted Jennings for his pure offensive game. Jennings had the look, to become a great player, too, while making headlines since high school.
…But knowing what I know now, I’d hands down take Evans. I was REALLY concerned that Evans’ game was one dimensional and haven’t really seen him play before the draft. …But it looks like Evans is going to be the total package here. He’s already years and years ahead of most players in this league, in terms of his development on offense AND defense. It’s mind-boggling to wonder what Tyreke will be averaging 3 years from now and how developed his game will be.
by CloudyEyes on Dec 4, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Still no votes for Jennings.
Interesting.
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, of course people are going to pick the best between Evans and Jennings, right now. :) A few people are taking a gamble in the unknowns in Rubio and Griffin… while the “other” is just for comic relief.
by CloudyEyes on Dec 4, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
No Thabeet love??
I thought that there were potentially some people out there who think Jennings is a better fit for the Kings because.. HE’S A PURE PG!!
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Evans
Because I never believe Griffin will be a franchise player regardless of how good he is.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 2:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Glad your mind has been changed.
I remember looking at evil cow town the day after the draft… lol
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just for fun.. a quote... lol
“Tyreke Evans is not OKAY. This does not make sense. You take a SG in a PG heavy draft? Uh, yeah, no.
What does Evans do? He’s big? Yes, I know. Was Evans that impressive? I mean, you’re running out a team that was born to run pick & rolls and the open court, and you take Tyreke Evans?
This makes little sense.
Unless the Kings may not know something I don’t.
But, I don’t subscribe to the BPA argument with this draft. There is too many things wrong with everyone.
I do think it’s telling that Rubio is on the Wolves and not the Kings. Especially when the Wolves didn’t trade to get up to Rubio.
Which only makes me wonder what was wrong with Jonny Flynn.
I ask again? What makes Tyreke Evans so great? Geoff Petrie thinks so?
Dude needs to retire if he’s going to make bullshit picks like this."
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Punditry is so much fun. I should do it more often.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
I was SOOO pissed on draft night that we passed on Rubio. I think I said something like “The Kings need a damn superstar to draw fans. This is the end for the Kings in Sac. They are moving the franchise for sure now!”
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by lodisacfan on Dec 4, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It happens :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Im happy with evans
but i wasnt during the draft lol. Same with jason thompson, hawes aswell.
what was that funny post about GP picks and our reactions to them? that was hilarious, story of my life lol
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by Robby1987 on Dec 4, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We all make mistakes
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we do!
Im just glad our GM doesnt. Well not often atleast ;)
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by Robby1987 on Dec 4, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It happens Robby
Nobody is perfect. Sometimes the circumstances don’t work either.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
i know all about bad circumstances. I’m an Oakland Raiders fan. Bust capital of the NFL.
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by Robby1987 on Dec 4, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
You shouldn’t admit that in public Robby.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh
No matter what, never bandwagon your team. Didnt do it to the Kings, wont do it to the raiders. No matter how bleak. Al davis will never die. LOL
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by Robby1987 on Dec 4, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry to hear that
Al Davis is the principle problem with the Raiders. Once he goes, the Raiders can come back with a real owner. Yes, Al was great once, but is no longer. Sadly.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You should replace Charles Barkley on ESPN
by CloudyEyes on Dec 4, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's okay
I’d much rather be a racist white guy.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 4, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
And he just cant be the best player in the draft, the clippers picked him.
by madmavmathews on Dec 5, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think he'll be good
But he was never the kind of player the Kings needed, and the Kings needed SO many things. My belief is that Tyreke Evans and Blake Griffin will have similar impacts offensively, but defensively Evans will be far & away the best defender of the 2009 draft class. The Kings absolutely need that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 5, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah no doubt.
He will perform at a high level consistently, but I cant see him as an all-star.
by madmavmathews on Dec 6, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say
STR did better than real NBA GMs.
Finding the talent in Jennings, and not taking Thabeet.
by sdfd on Dec 4, 2009 2:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do you think these numbers would be the same..
But with Jennings and ’Reke swapped if this poll were run on a Bucks fan site?
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by lodisacfan on Dec 5, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I could definitely see that
This is a bit of a “bird in the hand” scenario for Bucks and Kings fans. You stick when what you have/know.
by nobodyinparticular on Dec 5, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At this point...
I would have a REALLY hard time wanting anyone other than Tyreke Evans. Blake had a TON of hype (and production) heading into the draft and Jennings had a very nice few games, but Evans has been an absolute revelation on both ends of the floor in Sacramento. I hesitate to change something that is working so well. I’d stay with Evans.
by nobodyinparticular on Dec 5, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
a few more games like last night againt the Hornets and I may change my vote
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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