Don't Blame the Argentine: Hornets 96, Kings 94
Anyone who faults Andres Nocioni for that missed free throw, the one which at 96-94 Hornets with 1.1 seconds left effectively ended the game, should remember who pulled in the offensive rebound which preceded the final, fatal attempts.
Since 2002 I have rued discussion of choking, or some lack of innate resolve these Kings supposedly had. That epic Game 7 in 2002 is memorably painful for many reasons, but the worst of which remain the airballs. Peja. Doug. Whooooosh. Stojakovic took on an unfair rap, as if he had never missed a shot against a great defense before! And for someone to argue that Doug Christie, in 2002, couldn't handle pressure ... that accuser either has no clue about Doug Christie, or has bought into the well-spread, cliche conventional wisdom about athletic competition.
As it goes with Nocioni, one of the least quivering players in the league. Like so many of his current teammates, El Chapu backs down from no challenge, and certainly a vital free throw in December isn't going to render his spine a strand of angel hair pasta. Nocioni just happens to be a non-elite free throw shooter. Even the excellent miss some. No one has ever shot 100 percent from the line, right? Everyone misses some. (Or if you're Justin Williams, you miss most.) Some misses happen in the middle of the second quarter, some happen to come at a critical juncture. There's no magical method to hitting the critical ones that isn't used in the second quarter. You think if players, if Nocioni had a special spell he could use for important free throws he wouldn't use it all 48 minutes? It's foolish, really, to think there exists choke artists in the NBA, and that Nocioni would be one of them.
Tangent ended. A heartrending loss for the Kings, who really deserve another road win. They continue to play with their balls out (figuratively), giving every opponent every ounce of effort they've got. Jason Thompson is the rare NBA complainant who doesn't scream when called for a questionable foul because of some perceived injustice: he complains because he knows he must now leave the game. I don't know, maybe that's the same reason Kendrick Perkins and Rasheed Wallace gets techs, because they really don't want to sit on the bench. It seems implausible, but maybe that's the case. With J.T., I know that's the case. It kills him to be on the bench during the final moments, when he could be in the paint, playing defense, running the break, looking for paths to the rim.
That's evident all over the roster. Sergio Rodriguez made a couple of miscues again, but it's not because he's trying to get on SportsCenter. It's because he's anxious to get an easy hoop for his teammates on every possession. A matter underdiscussed in discourse about the "unselfishness" of pass-first players is that they basically take on complete risk for the play. If Sergio goes backdoor to Ime Udoka, but Ime doesn't cut, well then it's Sergio's fault, because he shouldn't have made the pass without proper communication. If Ime does cut and the Kings get two, the credit is shared. With Sergio, it's not completely about a clever passer sharing his gifts with cutting wings and lurking big men. It's about risk assumption. I think that's why his turnover numbers spike: because of the type of work he does, when he fails, it must go horribly, horribly wrong. He's like William Tell, in that sense.
One NBA trope that has always bothered me was the idea that your best player had to take every game-on-the-line possession. You'll remember the whole LeBron saga of 2006, when The Chosen One drove the lane on the Cavaliers' final deficit possession of a playoff game against the Pistons ... and he passed off to a lesser teammate, who had an open three due to the defense LeBron drew. James wasn't exactly castigated for the decision -- he had his defenders -- but it drew a ton of discussion, with the central thrust that the greatest players don't pass. They want the ball. They want the fate of the game to carry their mark, their DNA. I never really bought that this was smart. Studies have shown that efficiency on these plays goes way, way down -- because the offense becomes predictable (high screen for LeBron) and the defenses can key in (collapse the lane). I always figured that if you have Kobe and Pau, maybe run a post play for Pau. He's good, too.
But when Tyreke Evans drove the lane in the final Sacramento possession, I think I understood. I don't really believe in basketball mystics all that much (see my first point in this post) and I don't think the NBA's superstars have a different blood type than the hoi polloi. Superstars are just really super star players. As such, if the defense aims to make the superstar weak at the expense of putting a lesser player in super position to score, then the lesser player with the super position ought to be called upon. But having the type of dominant player we have in Reke might have changed my thinking, at least in these boom-boom cases, where there hasn't been a time-out. Coming down the floor, do you rely on your best player in perhaps tougher-than-usual circumstances, or do you rely on your B-list? I mean, if the Kings gave the ball to Beno, given the way Evans had been getting to the rim, I might have been apopletic. And Beno played great! Even with share-happy teams, the NBA is such an individualist sport. When one player can affect as much as LeBron, Wade, Howard, Paul or Evans can, you're foolish not to let them try to affect the game in the final moments. Without Kevin Martin in action, the Kings did not have a better option than Evans driving the lane. He did, he nearly got the winning basket, and Nocioni got the offensive rebound and a chance to tie the game. That last possession didn't work out, but it went well, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
And if I may, in closing: Spencer Hawes played really well. His defense was active and smart. His offense was fine. I will take that Spencer Hawes seven days a week.
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Evans is our closer
The main difference between a star and a superstar is his ability to domInate and close games late. Especially in the playoffs. Speed, as much as I love him, constanly disappears late in games. I believe it’s time for me to declare my man crush has developed into a full blown love fest for mr Evans.
I don't think Kevin disappears in the 4th
I think I remember him dropping 25 in the 4th before. I think when Ron & Bibby were here they always felt it was on them to take over in the 4th. Last year Kevin tried alot in the 4th but the defense always saw it coming & he was all we had. I can’t wait for the game I see Reke drive to the basket & kick it out to Kevin for a game winning three.
by allbenji's on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think Kevin disappears every now and then.
Sometimes it depends on who’s guarding him. I’ve seen Kevin command double teams OFF the ball which makes it even more difficult to get the ball in his hands so he can do his thing. In those cases, you can’t really blame him for being so good.
With ‘Reke on the floor, I think Kevin will stop relying on trying to get to the foul line so much and just try to really make the basket or play for a teammate. I’ve seen the Kings lose so many times when Kevin would put himself in a low percentage shot and jump into players to try to get a call. The result? No whistle is blown and a possession wasted. Hopefully, we’ve seen the last of those situations.
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Don't fool yourself
I think Kevin disappears every now and then.
Everyone does. You have to pretend to be involved but catch a breath now and then, everyone does it. It was just more noticable because KM was almost literally our only hope in winning a game before.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not fooling myself, girls.
The Kings lost those games in the last few minutes because the opposing team either covered Martin well off the ball, played his shot well or he just didn’t come through – period. There are players out there that overcome those odds most of the time and Kevin didn’t the last few seasons (and maybe he shouldn’t always have to). Hopefully Kevin will become a member of that group this year. I’m not knocking him even if it’s true. I have faith that PW will be able to use Kevin’s strengths so he isn’t put in those precarious situations from previous seasons.
I like Kevin’s game as much as the next guy. But the wins and losses are there and I can only draw my own opinion from what I see. If you feel differently, that’s cool withe me. We can agree to disagree.
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Great article
I’m a big fan of “Philosophical Ziller”.
You make a lot of great observations that I hadn’t really given much thought to; in particular, the bit about Sergio being a special kind of player. The William Tell line is brilliant.
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Who takes on the task of writing
the Sergio Rodriques Overture.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
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Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Few 2nd round miscues get mentioned as often as Justin Williams does in this blog
Consider that an indication of how much we liked the kid, and our sarcastic digs are just friendly.
How is he doing now, anyway?
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Wasn't 3-Wil a free agent acquisition?
Out of the NBDL?
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For some reason I thought the Kings picked him as a second rounder, then droppred him to the DL, then picked him up again later in the year.
But I could be very, very wrong. I started following the Kings closely near the end of his time in Sac.
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He was a rookie free agent
He wasn’t drafted by anybody.
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Can we run free throw drills?
I mean seriously. This isn’t about choking, it’s about making free throws throughout the game. I’d be happy if we could shoot 75% as a team. You know Evans and Thompson will take most of FT attempts a game. Nocioni’s career FT% average is a tad over 80%, yet he’s shooting 62% this year. And Casspi, well he’s missed more free throws than Beno has even attempted this year (25 missed FT for Casspi, 24 total FT attempts for Beno).
Nocioni can be fixed, or at the very least he can approach his average. Casspi is a great shooter, so he can also be fixed. Everyone who makes it to the line consistently is shooting about 75% or better. This can be solved cough Pete Carrill cough. Please do so soon so we can start winning these close games.
Nocioni has never been a great FT shooter, I wouldn’t expect much to change. Casspi, on the other hand – I think his poor FT shooting might be a fluke. Give him time.
I beg to differ
Nocioni has not been an outstanding free throw shooter, like Ziller mentioned, but he has been better. His career average is 80.3%, but admittedly he has been steadily declining in that area the past few years. Still, I feel 75% shouldn’t be too much to ask of him.
Nocioni is not one of those guys who live at the line, like Kevin Martin. He’s only averaged a bit over 2.5 FT attempts a game for his career.
Chapu is the best free throw shooter of all-time, statistically
by chapuforyou on Dec 10, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Uhm...dude.
You’re giving us Noce die-hards a bad name ok? Unless you’re Noce’s brother or cousin or something, in which case, rock on!
There can only be one Noce!
What we should take from this
Is that it was clear to me last night that the Kings have more talent up and down their roster than that playoff team we should / could have beaten. We just didn’t play better last night (ok – except for FTs) we were better.
Thats without Casspi, an important rotation guy and our future FT specialist (heh heh).
Bright things ahead – bright future.
Wins coming.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Without Casspi, Martin and Garcia
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Cisco is a long way from back
but I eagerly await Friday’s MRI result
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Same.
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They made their free throws.
The Kings didn’t. We lost.
My only moral gain was that Tyreke was the best point guard on the floor last night.
I do agree that the Kings have more potential than the Hornets if the Kings are FULL strength. But shooting 47% will not cut it for any team, mediocre, average or power elite.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
I don't blame Noc...
I would more readily blame Evans for missing the lay up, but I don’t blame him either.
I blame 9 of 19 from the line. That is unacceptable!
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Ziller
There are times when your analysis and perspective is brilliant in the way that a really bright light lets you see what otherwise would not be exposed.
This article is one such and definitely has me thinking about things in ways I would not otherwise. Really great points and I wish I could Rec more than +1.
The real cause for this loss was free throws missed. We took care of the ball and played hard. One turnover for Tyreke is the stat that really gets my attention. Everybody contributed off the bench killing NOs with the bench points. This was a game that we should have won. Definitely a hard loss to swallow.
Sure I was pissed at Noc at the end, but he would not be have been at the line if he didn’t scrap and hustle for that rebound…
24 pts from out bench and 22 pts from the Hornets bench isn't exactly killing.
2pts from Udoka, 4pts from Thomas & 5pts from Sergio, isn’t stellar offense. True Beno had 13pts but if he had started instead of Greene, our bench would of been outscored 22 to 16.
Granted if we had only shot FT’s at our seasonal average, we probably win by 2 or 3. But, I could pick a half dozen things that cost us the game. (poor defense of the pick & roll, our bigs not being able to rebound with the Hornets bigs, blown help assignments, 4 for 13 shooting from our SF’s, JT’s foul troubles, favorable calls for the Home team & failure to get into the offense quick enough) When you lose by 2 every thing comes into play.
But, we won the ORB’s, Stls, TO’s, and FG%. And, it’s not like we need another player to get over the hump. We have them already in Martin, Cisco & Omri. We’re on the threshold of making that next step. Whether it’s correct some of our mistakes, or just the return of some of our best players, the road wins will come. And, it will be before the next FA signing or draft, that’s really promising.
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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good points
I guess I was thinking of the first half on the bench points. We had a huge number and they had hardly any by the half. I didn’t realize they climbed back up that high.
You are correct in that we lost in a lot more than free throws, but we would have won by improving just that one area. I can see your point though, with that close of a game, we could have won with just a few other improved areas.
We are on the cusp of that next level… I find myself watching games wishing KMart was in there shooting or Cisco and definitely Omri this last game.
Yeah, our bench was big in the 1st half
as needed then quiet in the 2nd – except for Beno I think. We really missed Casspi
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed on all points.
However, I do think we need a special post player to get over to the little power elite side of the league.
If the Hornets had a bench, a proven coach (which I think they did in Scott), and better role players in their starting line up, they would certainly contend for the top 3 spots in the west. I think David West and Chris Paul are a great inside-out foundation to build around.
I’m a strong believer in having a potent outside-inside balance to win a 7 game playoff series. JT’s bag of 1 trick isn’t going to do it. I don’t know how any great power forwards that don’t have more than 3 great moves as well as a pump fake. I’m sure he’s going to improve but he’s not ‘there’ yet and I don’t think he will get there by the end of this season. Spencer actually has a few more moves than JT but he’s not as quick, which limits his effectiveness. I’m hoping the Kings lobby for a great post player in the summer and JT and Spence improve fivefold by next season.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Neither Spencer or JT are likely to make that type of improvement
they just don’t have the lift. They’re never going to be the type of low post player that can take the ball straight up and dunk it. It will be necessart to add that type of player to the front line, but whether it’s thru the draft or by trade, it will happen.
Right now the biggest difference between them is BB IQ & D. Spencer is by far the superior defender even if you take JT’s foul problems out of the equation. And, JT’s pick & roll defense is simply horrible.
I am totally in agreement with
I’m a strong believer in having a potent outside-inside balance to win a 7 game playoff series.
But I also know that it isn’t the only way to contend in the playoffs. And, since we’re no way close enough to contend, I’ll sit back watch them progress, until the final piece is added.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
True.
I’m actually not talking about dunking though. Pau, Bogut and Duncan don’t have that lift either but they’re all able to score almost at will due to their post arsenals.
I guess I’m speaking more along the lines of patience, fakes and moves to get a hook or layup in. JT got one right handed jump hook in when he got the ball on the left block. He did it a second time on David West but West defended it a little better and JT knew he had to work a lot harder to get it to fall. When JT got the ball on the right block, he still tried to do his weak right handed jump hook, which was and is always bad and useless from that angle. I think a nice pump fake would do JT and Spence wonders. A solid left jump hook would keep defenders honest so JT could use his right hand more.
I loved it when Udoka got a rebound under the basket with 2 or 3 Hornets surrounding him (near the end of the 2nd quarter). Udoka did 2 pump fakes and was able to put the ball in while the Hornets were still gathering from earlier bites. I hope JT and Spence can learn from that and Kenny’s ‘old timer’ tricks of the trade.
I totally agree with:
But I also know that it isn’t the only way to contend in the playoffs.
Yes, the Suns and Bulls showed us that you can win in the playoffs with different approaches. But to maintain great perimeter shooting for at least 4 games in a 7 game series is extremely hard if there is no post presence.
Thanks for the dialogue, Tops. Go Kings.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
clear out basketball
I watched the Cavs-Heat series and hated it. Why? Because the last 5 minutes of every game was when the Cavs had the ball, 4 players went to their corners and Lebron went one on one. When the Heat had the ball, 4 players went to their time-out chairs and Wade went one on one. I like team basketball. That is what made the Kings so great in the heyday. Ball movement. But here lies the problem. The Kings have never had a “clear out” player and now maybe they have one in Evans and every team in the last few years who have won a championship (except the Pistons) have had the superstar “clearout” player. I will leave it up the PW and Co. to figure it out.
A few thoughts about last night and the last few nights games
1) I can not believe I am gonna say this. But do we really want to trade Kenny Thomas? Hell I am almost ready to sign him up for 2 more years on the cheap.
2) I wished last night we could have had Beno, Martin, Evans, JT and KT on the floor last night at closing time. Beno on the perimeter. Martin and Evan driving and drawing fouls, JT down low and rebounding, and KT playing defense and rebounding.
3) I love Beno again and prefer the ball be in Evan’s hands and went not in his hands, it better be in Beno’s hands. What a difference a few months makes.
You heard it here first. The boys win tonight. Count it and put it in the books
by noreboundsnorings on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I also agree
That ‘clear out’ end of game plays both lack imagination and are low %.
The main reason is that officials will almost never give you anything but an obvious call on those, and sometimes not even then. You want to play mano e mano with a second or two left ? – you better get it in the bucket.
I’m praying for really good news on Martin’s MRI Friday.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
With on 1) Kenny - to a point
I know that Kenny Thomas is a good chip to trade and all, but he is really changing the game defensively when he is in. How many times did he bat away passes and get his quick hands into the passes? I never was down on Kenny. I always liked how he played for Adelman who used him a lot. He mostly sat because the Kings gave up on winning and decided to develop young talent and cause we had awful coaches who didn’t know how to play talent what talent we did have.
IF we trade him we better get somebody who can defend like he can, but also has more scoring potential.
rec'd, snorings.
I agree about the clear out part. I do want to add that the teams that do win also have one or a few clutch shooters that compliment their one ‘clear out’ player.
The Celtics have Ray Ray, House and Garnett to compliment Paul Pierce and the L*kers have Fish and Pau to compliment K*be. Those two teams have the luxury of doing the obvious isolation play and have players that can spot up and make their shot if the isolation doesn’t work. With lineups like theirs, they still can play 5 on 5 basketball without going 1 on 5. Last year, I was more than pleased to see Stan Van Gundy and the Magic shut down LeBron and Mike Brown’s anti-team offense.
I’m sure everybody here can see the endless and fruitful possibilities of having Tyreke and Kevin on the floor at the same time. Here’s to the future.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Well said TZ
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Tyreke Evans for Mayor
The kid is building stadiums.
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Don't blame the Argentine,
Don’t blame the Argentine,
I blame the freethrow line,
I blame the referees,
I blame the lack of threes,
Don’t blame JT fouling out,
I blame Songaila’s flop about,
I blame the referee,
I blame that he could see,
Don’t blame Tyreke’s shot selection,
I blame the Hornets’ shot rejection,
I blame their stupid D,
I blame our injuries,
Don’t blame the Argentine,
Just put this game behind,
The loss is tough, but fine,
We’ll deal with it in time,
And while we dream of trades,
For the best players ever made,
And if we can’t have Chris Paul,
There’s always next year, and John Wall.
(God, I’m rhyming. I always knew flu medication was bad for you.)
There's nothing to fear but everything.
by elfboy_ on Dec 9, 2009 11:46 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
So now we imagine
the defense having to respond to Evans on a critical play and having to keep track of Martin at the same time.
I’m tellin’ ya…there’s potential for scary.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
You mean Kevin Martin could hit a critical game winning shot?
Shocking.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmzlgR_JAas
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I'm not going to click on this
Because I already know it is the Spurs Playoff Game 3 shot.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Holy Shit
A new link to a Martin winning shot. I like it Aykis!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
HA!
AND YOU’RE WRONG! I WIN!!!!!!! I knew you would think it was that.
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Is it the Seattle
“Let’s go home” game?
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Yeah.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
He also has a game winner in Chicago
It was a game part of the road trip we always go on to start the season. It was either when Muss was coaching or the first year of Theus. Anyone remember that one?
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Yes
Unfortunately no video.
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I thought Ron Artest hit that game winner in Chicago
Let me look it up.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You're right though
That was Kevin Martin. And, it was the year of the Muss.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I crumple in shame when faced with true greatness
Well done Aykis.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I self-righteously go on record
as saying I never questioned it.
But the key enhancement is that he does not have to create it for himself while being considered the only true threat on the floor.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
I don't blame Noc for his missed free throws at the end of the game
I blame the other 8 missed free throws throughout the game.
I’d also like to blame whoever rigged the rim on that last Evans drive. How the hell does that not go in?
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Perhaps it was the magnet hoops from last year.
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New Orleans
someone hit it with some Hoodoo!
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Must have
Or maybe one of ‘em tried Dwight Howard’s new little trick
Either way it was a shot he should have made and I have no idea how he didn’t make it.
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That is gross.
I said in the post-game thread he should have gone off the glass, but I’m not a NBA player who has to make split-second decisions. As such, he still barely missed it.
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What vfettke said.
I don’t blame Noc for his missed free throws at the end of the game. I blame the other 8 missed free throws throughout the game.
Also, I don’t think Sergio is trying to get on Sportscenter. However, Serge has to slow down for his teammates or his teammates have to catch up to his passing. I think Serge sees the angles within the game a little faster than his teammates and it’s a beautiful thing to watch when Serge is in sync with his teammates on the floor.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Good point
I think that the guys have to be prepared for Sergio’s passing and sometimes his moves are so quick they aren’t until a split second before it hits them. Probably cause of his ability to see the angles and pass in that split second.
Sergio sees the angles and has a hair trigger. The guys are catching on and he is getting better with them. Nice to see.
Thanx, Mustang.
However, I still think Serge can tone it down if he sees Ariza or Artest between himself and a fellow teammate. Sometimes a nice fast bounce pass is more effective than an alley-oop.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Sniff. Thanks for the article, TZ.
Noce is going through a really rough couple of games and it’s easy to be shortsighted and blame him for last night but the fact is he’s really playing hard and trying to get himself n a position to help the team win.
It’s probably last night’s game that triggered his incessant shooting tonight, as he probably wanted to make up for it. Of course, it didn’t turn out so well either.
Maybe it’s time to sit him down and play Beno instead. Beno has been playing really well and we can’t afford to keep giving up 1st quarter leads and trying to catch up the rest of the game.
There can only be one Noce!
Uhm...he's been sucking the past 2 games. If that's the norm and not "rough" games,
then he’s proving some of his Sac doubters right.
There can only be one Noce!
Don't get me wrong, we're on the same side (Noce's side)...
but let’s not practice blind love either.
Noce would be the first to admit he’s not playing to par.
There can only be one Noce!
My cousin Pablo
He’s doing well though
Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...

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