You have to part with Jason Thompson or Spencer Hawes--who goes?
David Thorpe: Keep Shock, part with Hawes.
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I might need a late pass...
But the name “Shock” has transcended from StR into the mainstream? That’s dope.
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And if we trade either JT or Spencer
the whole “Shock and Hawes” thing dies an inglorious death.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 11, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
We wouldn't want that right?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Sadly
this has probably been my one big worry about an Amare trade.
However, we could have the Three S’s: Speed, STAT, Shock/Spence. Or even better, a Spanish bent on it: The Three Esés
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by vfettke on Feb 11, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
And fans get free tacos if we win.
And add a sombrero to the warm up jerseys
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What about the tequila so we could hug our toilet while throwing up?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Dude...
the pure mention of tequila makes me want to vomit
we could replace that crappy “Hell Yeah!” song with some mariachi music
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No problem
Vomit is disgusting. I’m going to run to straight to the toilet if the Kings trade for Amare. My hope there just isn’t a trail from the 20 feet from my chair in my cardboard box to the toilet…..
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
So dramatic!
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 11, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
What's sad...
is that my first though was “wow, that’s a huge fuckin box!”
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by vfettke on Feb 11, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for great comedic instinct
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Interesting...
I’ve been listening to The Lonely Island all day, so my first thought was “D*** in a Box” . . . but I wouldn’t say that about pookey (although I could see him saying something self depreciating like that about himself).
Good call smg
Except, on the Amare thing, I’m not alone. Maybe we’re a small minority at this point who don’t want him at all, but it’s a bit nice knowing I’m not alone on this one.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I don't think they are wearing sombreros or eating tacos in Spain
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
That's cuz they ain't country as fuck
That’s why California is so in love with Mexicano’s bro.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Amare is not going to be traded to a West Conference Rival . Peroid
The Suns appear intent on not sending Stoudemire (who can opt out in 2010) to a Western Conference rival. Thus, Chicago (because of the ’90s Bulls relationship between general managers Steve Kerr and John Paxson) and Detroit (which would surrender Rasheed Wallace and his expiring contract) are considered the front-runners."
Lets consider something more realistic.
by nothingbutnet on Feb 11, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
More realistic than what?
Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown?
Shaq for Shawn Marion?
What’s realistic is what actually happens. Until then it is all conjecture, so why not talk about it? Sure beats talking about the actual games.
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I’m sick of the speculation
- but I’m sicker talking about yet another fucked up game!!!
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 11, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
Kerr's got too many suitors to make a trade like that
by nothingbutnet on Feb 11, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Neither
Neither is worth Amare. He can’t be the superstar of your team and our guys have too much potential. Shock is basically a younger version of Amare without the past knee problem and Hawes has the potential to be both a floor leader and a uniquely skilled offensive big man.
Amare – SSOL – Nash = 27 yr old JT = Don’t do it Geoff!
Ridiculous
Amare at age 22: 80 starts 26 ppg 9 rebs. I like Shock and I think he has good upside, but saying that Shock is a young Amare is a little too much. I feel like there is very little chance that Shock will ever be as good as Amare was when he was 22. Defensively he could come close, tho.
Hawes, I think, has a lower ceiling than Shock.
Maybe not...
You’re right about Shock never being a young Amare….but is his upside better than the Amare of today? What would we get with Amare compared to what we have with Shock? Amare would probably be gone as soon as his contract is done.
I really don't think so...
To alot of people who know alot about basketball he’s never been thought of by as having anywhere near that much upside. It’s just us homers who think he is an allstar in the making. And I’m no expert, but I don’t feel that JTs upside is close to what Amare is now.
Different type of player
Shock is much closer to the type of player Amare is. Why do we need two?
Spence hits outside shots and passes the ball extremely well which are two thinks the Kings need and Amare can’t do.
Keep in mind
Shock used to play guard so he has ballhandling/passing skills. Plus, he’ll complement Amare defensively way more than Hawes
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So does Amare Stoudemire
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Reverse that David
and I might be in
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 11, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
maybe never the scorer
I think Spencer will be better defensively and have a wider range of offensive skills. You are probably right that he will not likely ever have the 25+/gm scoring potential that Amare does.
Were much better off with Chandlier
We lack team defense hence we are classified as the worst defensive team in the league. Amare doesn’t help this situation.
by nothingbutnet on Feb 11, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
scarily enough, from the same chat...
"How good can Jason Thompson be? "
Thorpe: "Good for sure. Not sure if he can be great. "
To be fair...
Those two statements can both be true.
Thorpe may feel that JT is going to be better than Spencer, and that neither will be “great”.
He wouldn’t be the first person with that opinion, and if he’s right then trading one of them for an established “great” player (Amare or otherwise) would be a coup for GP & Levien.
To stretch the analogy a bit . . . .like they say in baseball, “there is no such thing as a pitching prospect”.
note to Thorpe: don't comment on potential of KMart's teammates
Same rule applies to you as applies to KMart’s Mom, Dad, Uncles, girlfriends. When you are a perceived confidante of one player, you don’t give public evaluations of that player’s teammates unless it is wild praise. O/w it looks like KMart is judging and critiquing his teammates and that’s not cool.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Don't agree at all.
He’s not just KMart’s coach. He has tons of clients all over the NBA…He couldn’t talk about anyone, then.
Also, I’m pretty sure it’s not perceived this way by the majority of readers.
He was asked about upside
It was simple. He thinks JT will be good. Not great. No biggie.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
it's a biggie to JT, and I couldn't blame him if he assumes KMart shares Thorpe's view
which breeds resentment
Yes, Thorpe has other clients – but he is associated 99% with KMart, 1% with Haslem and 0% with everyone else.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
agents have lots of clients
but you don’t want KMart’s agent putting a ceiling on one of KMart’s teammates upside
not cool
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
I doubt JT ever reads it
I wouldn’t bother losing sleep on it. I really wouldn’t.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
BREAKING NEWS: TRADE NOT HAPPENING
Bill Simmons just said it was a good idea on his latest podcast.
Oh well.
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
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by iashwash on Feb 11, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
I really with the Bucks would’ve given him a shot as their GM (even an AGM).
What else do they have going for them?
Bucks hired John Hammond
Who worked under Joe Dumars. I doubt that’s happening smg. (I realize what you’re saying is a joke.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Obviously
Although I’m not kidding when I say that they could have made a huge PR splash if they’d offered Simmons a figure-head position of an Assistant GM or “consultant” . . . even if he had no actual power.
(Guh, and I didn’t even realized I made such a terrible typo in my previous post . . . with = wish. That looks like the typing version of a lisp).
I would love that
I can see Simmons in his office working up trade proposals on the Trade Machine
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Thought this was interesting (even though it had nothing to do with Shock or Hawes or Speed)
Laura (Austin, TX): Hi Coach Thorpe, I was just wondering if you would ever consider a position in the NBA as a Head Coach? It seems clear that you know how to get players to trust and listen to you, and you are great at helping them get better. Coaches have been hired with far less experience at coaching pro’s than you.
SportsNation David Thorpe: Thanks Laura, and yes, I do think that I’ll be in a position to accept a job like that. But no, it will not happen for at least 11 more years. I have one chance to be a great dad, and being a head coach would mean that I’d lose that chance. For me anyway. After that it’s still unlikely, my wife deserves better than to have us together just for the summers.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 11, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I find this interesting also
Johnny (Santa Barbara, California): How good can Jason Thompson be?
SportsNation David Thorpe: Good for sure. Not sure if he can be great.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Thorpe bit his tongue
his real response was “Good for sure. He’ll be the next Malone if he works with me”
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by vfettke on Feb 11, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL vf
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Seriously
as captain of the team Kev needs to demand that all rookies see Thorpe in the offseason.
Actually, it could become an all Kings players thing with Levien in the front office. His two clients (Martin, Deng) both train under him
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So...
if all of Levien’s clients go to Thorpe, and Levien is our Assistant GM is it possible that the Kings could be sending more guys to him in the summer? I would love that. That’d be as big, if not bigger, than bringing Coachie back. Just look what he’s done for Kevin. Dude is no frills and just knows basketball. In fact check out Abbott’s Training Like a Pro series from True Hoop. He and some other writers worked out with Thorpe and his trainers for a week. That’s some good reading.
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You want me to read Henry Abbott
Just so he could talk about Thorpe’s sophisticated training methods? Crap. I’m a sucker.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
You don't like Abbott?
You should definitely read it. Great series of articles. Imagine if our whole team worked with Thorpe for a few weeks in the summer. That probably gives us an additional 15 wins.
www.mancancook.net
Yeah I hate Henry Abbott
I hate everything about him right down to the fact that he’s a Blazer fan. I really hate that he’s the most influential basketball blogger on the biggest sports website and has given countless exposure to bloggers making the blogosphere that much more of a rewarding place.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Yes I'm so Indy
Pookeyguru: Where hatting classic happens.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
i'm old but what does hatting mean?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
it means I'm an idiot
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
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