Stephon Marbury making a whole lotta sense now
We all know the kind of contributions Brad has put with this franchise. To recap, he's been an all-star, a valuable piece when the team was a contender while Stephon Marbury has been nothing but trouble and despair for the Knicks.
However, this deal of Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas for Stephon Marbury might just make too much sense for it not to happen. This deal essentially is a salary dump and gives the Kings and their fans some fresh hope for the future. While for New York, gives them the opportunity to compete for a playoff spot while waiting on 2010.
This deal also make sense when you look at history, as recently as last February with the Mike Bibby deal and I would argue this deal is along those lines. What is the difference between Shelden Williams, Anthony Johnson, Lorenzen Wright and Tyronn Lue and Stephon Marbury. The latter three were all merely expiring contracts to give the team flexibility and even before Shelden Williams came to Sacramento he had been widely seen as a bust and the Kings didn't even pick his option up for next year. So the Mike Bibby trade became essentially a salary dump.
Is Brad Miller worth more than Mike Bibby was then? Sure Mike Bibby had a heir in Beno Udrih, this year the Kings have young bigs like Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes to develop. The 11-43 record is also another reason to do this deal as the Kings use the 2nd half of the season to see what it actually has.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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I would do the trade
If nothing else was available. Theres still some hope we can get a player out of Brad, but for Brad I wouldn’t mind just expiring.
by Aykis16 on Feb 13, 2009 2:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
why would the knicks do it? its not like brad can run the floor, which is what d’antoni wants to do. plus he is a defensive liability.
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by Cynema the Band on Feb 13, 2009 2:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Because Brad is a legit player
And the contracts come off in 2010, which is very important to NY. David Lee is their current center, and very undersized. They could put him at the 4 this way.
Also, “defensive liability”? This is Mike D’Antoni we’re talking about.
by Aykis16 on Feb 13, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would NY pay Miller & K9 $20M next yr?
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by HighTops on Feb 13, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't see NY doing this trade
Marbury is $10 million for the rest of this year.
Brad/K9(woof!) are $31 million over the next year and a half – and remember, that would likely put the Knicks well over the tax threshold for next year, meaning they could be paying up to double for Miller/Thomas.
That said, I’m in.
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by section214 on Feb 13, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn the luck
If Isaih was still running the Knicks, we could send them Miller, Thomas, and a wheelbarrow full of unicorn farts™ for the whole cupboard.
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by andy sims on Feb 13, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously,
When were the Knicks ever worried about money? They were millions in cap luxury tax this season and STILL signed Chris Duhon for their entire MLE.
So I think adding payroll doesn’t hurt the Knicks especially since their 2010 plan is still alive.
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by kingme18 on Feb 14, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Knicks don't need cap space in 2009, they need it in 2010.
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by kingme18 on Feb 13, 2009 3:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why is having cap space in 2009 that you save for 2010 a bad thing?
As long as you are over the league minimum salary, which is quite a bit below the cap, there’s nothing that says you have to use your available space.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 13, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a matter of cap space -
It’s a matter of paying probably $30+ miliion more for Miller and Thomas than you would pay if you just rode Marbury out, because this deal could push you over the luxury tax for next year.
Shoe on the other foot – would you pay $30 million for Miller and Thomas next year?
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by section214 on Feb 13, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I thought I could combine my asset's with one of those contracts
Yes, 214 I would. It’s a money gamble, but if you’re the Knicks, you can always take that kind of gamble.
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by pookeyguru on Feb 14, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No Chance...
If NY made this trade, it would make it virtually impossible for them to resign David Lee next year (without screwing up their 2010 plans) AND it would make the Kings one of the teams that could offer Lee the kind of money NY could not match (because we’d be so far under the cap). Sac could offer Lee a front loaded deal so the cap hit for NY in 2010 would prohibit their grand plan… If NY doesn’t see Lee in their future, they will trade him before the deadline and hopefully we could be part of that…
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Feb 13, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Uhm... Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas expiring in 2010
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by kingme18 on Feb 13, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but...
they’d have to sign Lee next year… its Lee’s contract beyond 2010 that creates the problem, not Miller or K9s.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Feb 13, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they want to sign Lee
Most scenario’s for the 2010 NY blowout involve not signing Lee this summer.
by Aykis16 on Feb 13, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sign and trade?
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by iashwash on Feb 13, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but he’ll be BYC, so it’ll be tough. Sucks. David Lee to Cleaveland for JJ Hickson ain’t a bad deal.
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by iashwash on Feb 13, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i say
knicks wont do it, they have a plan, they are sticking to it that’s it, now i say why not shoot for amare?
by shadowchicken on Feb 13, 2009 11:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What can the Knicks trade?
I think the Suns want expiring contracts that can still play in this league like Shawn Marion. But Stephon Marbury? I doubt the Suns want to help out Mike D’Antoni either.
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by kingme18 on Feb 14, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(hick!) wasteddddd
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by lietothegirls on Feb 14, 2009 5:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You're making beer man seem lucid
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by section214 on Feb 14, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I was on vacation!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 15, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Marbury
Never makes sense.
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