Report: Sam I Am to the Kings

why? can he still play?

by kingme on Feb 16, 2009 11:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Cash and An Extra point guard!

The oddities, the peculiarities, the implications! I can’t wait to hear what people come up with. Is Beno moving? Is this just a straight money deal? Is this a pre-deal before a bigger trade where Boston needs the roster spot? How much cash is coming?

Let’s gooooooooooo……

Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'

by iashwash on Feb 16, 2009 11:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

That's the immediate impulse thought for Celts fans,

that either a trade or perhaps multiple signings are coming (the latter possibly after the deadline). While I’m certainly not privy to what goes on behind closed doors, all signs had been that Cassell was doing a fine job in whatever his role was – semi-coach, semi-cheerleader, general loveable goofball, mentor to Rondo and some of the youngsters.

Given that a) he wasn’t making a ton, b) the Celts have mentioned how nice it’s been to have him around several times this year, c) he didn’t seem disgruntled in his role and perhaps most importantly, d) he was the team’s supposed insurance policy for the second half of the season as a back-up point (and by no means has that issue been resolved), it’s hard to fathom Danny Ainge making a move here if he wasn’t gearing up for something more.

I’ll just continue to hope against hope that said “something more” doesn’t involve a fellow from my hometown of the Sizable Apple who currently has his sneaker logo tattooed on his head.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Feb 17, 2009 12:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

is it possible that the Kings could get a 2nd round pick

And swap Bobby Brown for Cassell?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 4:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The other issue I have SW

Is that the KIngs don’t have a roster spot open to do this. This might mean another big trade is imminent. Hopefully anyway.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 4:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Theyll immediately waive Cassel.

So, basically, we’re getting some cash to take Cassell off their hands cause he’s not doing anything for them player-wise. Wouldnt be surprised to see him back in Boston in some kind of assistant capacity.

by Citadel 29 on Feb 17, 2009 6:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Or they could toss in Cassell as a throw in another trade

It’s always a possibility he could be used in a trade with Portland or something like that. No needd to hold onto Sam I Am, but there’s also no need to be hasty in waiving him immediately.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 6:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

Cassell is worth keeping on the roster as opposed to some other guys on the team, both from a money standpoint, as well as what he can bring to the team.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Feb 17, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We Do have a roster spot -

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 17, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah I realize that

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not all that bright, so type slowly

On the face of it, what is the benefit to the Kings? Do they just get Cassell, waive him, and Boston pays the salary, and if so, how does that save the Kings any money, if they didn’t move anyone to get Cassell? More to come? Does Sam have anything left in the tank?

And my main fear:

It’s a trap!

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 16, 2009 11:58 PM PST reply actions 5 recs

rec'd

by LPKingsFan on Feb 17, 2009 7:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Weird

So the Kings just traded for a player who is essentially retired? And they may not have sent anything for him?

Can Sam be packaged in a trade to another team before the deadline? That’s the only way I could see the Kings getting anything out of this, unless Boston sent more cash than Cassell is owed?

by cabz on Feb 16, 2009 11:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

all for the dolla dolla bill y'all

Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'

by iashwash on Feb 17, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

This is basically Boston paying the Kings to open up a roster spot. I wonder what move comes next from the Celtics.

by LPKingsFan on Feb 17, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

???????????????????

Somethin’ is up with that……

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 17, 2009 12:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I have yet to propose a trade but it is late and well...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

and keep Sam Cassell to coach. No, I am not kidding.

The Kings get expiring and a PG, The Okay’s get a Center who fits beautifully with their team, and the Horn get to dump big $ in one and two years and I think a guy in BM who fits their offense well.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 17, 2009 1:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I have no idea what you just said

by Soupial on Feb 17, 2009 5:02 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs

No trade linked BTE

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 17, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

well, if nothing is learned from all the posts in the last few days

at least we have determined that even after a few months on StR I am still a lame post-er.

I can’t even link what I proposed because it happened. I had a trade machine deal which sent Tyson Chandler to the OKC, Wilcox and Smith to the Kings and BMiller to the Hornets. The trade worked because it happened…. kinda. Just BMiller wasn’t involved.

If a trade happened in the forest and no one heard it……(did it really happen?)

by betweentheeyes on Feb 17, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Cassell

It’s been known around the league for several seasons now that Cassell is essentially an on-the-court coach. The guy knows the game inside and out, including all the crafty tricks. Even if he’s not on the court, he can be instrumental to the development of our PGs.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Feb 17, 2009 7:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

My hope is...

This is a move that will beget another move. Say someone wants Salmons but the expirings/players the Kings are to receive make more than his contract. Add Cassell and maybe it works.

Otherwise, it doesn’t make too much sense. Does it?

by towndunce on Feb 17, 2009 7:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

By the way

The Kings will make about $350,000 in the deal, according to the current numbers being thrown around. Boston will save $300,000.

For anyone talking trade: Cassell can’t be packaged with another player in a trade this season. If this one gets put on hold pending other work, Boston could be added as an extra team with Cassell going somewhere else, the Kings getting the cash, and Boston getting the super-protected second-round pick. But I’m not clear a) Cassell wants to play anywhere but Boston, b) Boston wants to potentially help anyone who’d want Cassell (Orlando, Cleveland?), and c) it would be much help, as the Kings have a variety of small expiring contracts (Douby, Williams, Jackson, semi-Moore, semi-Brown).

by Ziller on Feb 17, 2009 7:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Forgot about combining...

Still, it opens there could be “two” trades that teams can work out…

by towndunce on Feb 17, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Tz I see what you mean

But it’s always possible that Cassell could be part of the swap, and technically the swap would look like a 2 for 2 swap, when really it’s a 1 for 1 swap.

For two months after receiving the player in trade or claiming him off waivers, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 72 for a special case where players can be traded together in less than two months.)

I forgot that you can’t trade him in conjunction with anybody, but he can be traded by himself. There are ways for that to be possible.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

it makes money, so good deal.

by shadow1480 on Feb 17, 2009 8:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Good trade

We get money for doing nothing. Cassell will probably get waived and if he doesn’t he’s gone at the end of the year anyway. Maybe he could provide a veteran presence if we keep him.

by Aykis16 on Feb 17, 2009 8:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Remeber the days

where we would get really, really excited that Geoff Petrie was talikng with Danny Ainge?

I miss those days.

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by section214 on Feb 17, 2009 8:21 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

I wouldn't be surprised if half the motivation was...

…to have Sam here to get to know him, get an idea of his philosophy, his understanding of the game, his ability to connect with our players…and to have the inside track at hiring him as an assistant coach and later a head coach.

Some people think he could be a very successful head coach. Cheap price to pay for the inside track on a guy like that.

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Feb 17, 2009 8:44 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

Agreed

Cassell seems like a guy who would segue into that type of role more easily than a lot of players. Doubtful he’d be ready to be a head coach yet, and although I like Natt in some ways, I don’t get the impression that he’s going to be around long enough to mentor anyone…

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 17, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This is the move

to put us over the top.

On a serious note, if the kings don’t waive him it seems Beno may be on his way out.

The doctor said I wouldn't get so many nosebleeds if I just kept my finger outta there.
-Ralph

by kangsfan on Feb 17, 2009 9:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Geoff, can we keep him?

Pretty please?

The man has more toughness in his left pinky than most of our team combined, and that doesn’t even take into consideration the toughness in the man’s left nut

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by vfettke on Feb 17, 2009 9:15 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

Best testicles in the business...

…hands down…

…down there clutching them…

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Feb 17, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

From Chad Ford's chat ....

Anthony (New York City): Which team says no to the trade of Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas, and Mikki Moore for Stephon Marbury and Jared Jeffries? Knicks clear cap space for 2010 and the Kings clear cap space for next year.

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:09 PM ET ) I know the Knicks and Kings spoke Monday about a deal with Brad Miller and Malik Rose as the principals. The talk never got too detailed. I think for the Knicks to pull the trigger Jared Jeffries has to be in the deal. For the Kings to do it, they’d like Nate Robinson back. I do think there is a deal there for both teams that makes sense. Kings get cap relief now. Knicks get it in 2010. I think ultimately, both sides say yes if they can work out the details.

by shadow1480 on Feb 17, 2009 10:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Guh

Player A: $8.5M, $8.7M, $0.0M
Player B: $6.0M, $6.4M, $6.8M

If the Kings get Jared Jeffries, I’m going to immediately start calling him either J9 or K10 (woof!).

by smgmatt on Feb 17, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jerome James makes sense or Nate Robinson probably

But, not Jared Jeffries. Oh hell no.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Jerome James makes sense..."

I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard that uttered before.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Feb 17, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm drinking beer

But the problem is, I agree with that sentiment when I’m sober too…..

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs