The framework is Gooden/Nocioni for Miller and Salmons, and it's - once again - a real possibility.
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by moproblemz on Feb 18, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cioniiiiiiiii!
But, I agree. NOOOOOOOO
cioni!
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This could quite possibly be the worst trade of all time.
I would lose all faith in this front office.
by Tw1x990 on Feb 18, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Nocioni would take Kenny Thomas' locker next year?
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 12:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
and Kenny doesnt get a locker?
Sadly, he’ll still be around next year.
by passionforPERPS on Feb 18, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Noce doesn't suck.....
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
He is overpaid, though.
And Kenny Thomas wasn’t his current pile of suckitude when we acquired him. If we end up with Noc, I just hope his play would at least remain consistent.
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by Exhibit G on Feb 18, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He IS a 3 pt specialist
which i think we need
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But
Do we need to join the long list of teams that are paying too much for a guy just because he can hit some threes?
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by Exhibit G on Feb 18, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
everybody knows I’m not high on trading Salmons….
Noce may fit better with KM though (maybe not)
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He may be but he's a bad one then.
Salmons is a 35.4% 3 point shooter for his career, 41.8% this year and his shooting has clearly gotten better as he got older.
Nocioni is 36.7% career, 37.8% this year. Salmons has made 77 of them this year, Noc 79. There’s no statistical difference between their shooting, its a break even.
I know everyone thinks it can’t get worse defensively, but seriously, Nocioni is going to be the “good” defender for us on the wing for the next 3 years? seriously?
Just say no, making a move for the sake of making it can be a mistake.
by ForThree on Feb 18, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Noce only plays 24 minutes
so the # of 3s he takes don’t quite match up. 1/2 his shots are 3s whether you like that idea or not(?)
He does spread the floor…
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's fair
the concept of a pure shooter works for me, though we’re pretty close to having that already with Martin. We do need to worry a little about having no one that can create a shot for themselves when the offense doesn’t create one.
But I know you and I are way different in that feeling. I’m ok with a shooter, but they need to bring more or be cheaper than Mr. Nocioni for me to be excited. Its too many years.
by ForThree on Feb 18, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not a MLE value player?
Thats what he’ll be paid. It does free up space to maybe buy Washington’s pick
HELL – I don’t know…
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I admire your courage
in taking up this fight. And, of course, I hope you’re right is Noc does come here he helps.
I’d just rather have Salmons for a couple years and Miller’s giant expiring contract this upcoming summer then Chicago’s chaff expirings and a guy they’d walk 50 miles barefoot in a blizzard to pawn off on another team.
by ForThree on Feb 18, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s 29, his PER has gone down every year for the last four years to about 11 this year and we want this for 3 more years?
How is this better than keeping Salmons who is the same age, cheaper and better and letting B52 expire next year?
This trade would be horrible.
by ForThree on Feb 18, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, what's really troubling
is that he’s gone from tough-nosed and good to seriously mediocre in such a short span. If he were 25 you’d think, ok, just having an off year, but his mileage is starting to pile up, and he’s signed until he’s 34. He’s been playing like a shell of what he used to be just a couple of years ago.
I really think he’d turn into Kenny Thomas, Aregentinian-style.
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
This isn’t the worst thing ever. I’m not a big fan (since Salmons is cheaper and better), but the Kings would be $10-14 million under the cap, depending on where the cap ends up, Moore’s fate and the top pick.
But Nocioni is a good/great rebounder at the three, he is supposedly a decent defender, he is not afraid to shoot threes (which he shoots well), and he screams a lot. Plus-minus thinks he’s good.
I’d be somewhere between disappointed and aghast.
by Ziller on Feb 18, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
+ Gooden's fate
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That sums it up
I’d be somewhere between disappointed and aghast.
At least his deal is declining.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Um
No.
Nocioni is a decent player but he is NOT better than Salmons and has a worse contract! WHY would Petrie do this? Gooden is an expiring but so is Miller next season. Salmons has one of the cheapest contracts for a player of his caliber.
To make this trade work, Chicago would have to throw in their first round pick this year along with maybe a second round or two in the next couple drafts. Even then, it’s iffy.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 12:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Picks
Yeah, I’d need a first to endorse this.
by Ziller on Feb 18, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
Assuming Miller/Salmons gives them a slight boost, that would be somewhere around 15, which would guarantee us a Lawson, Collison or Brackins if we’re feeling shaky about them being available with the HOU pick. Then again, T-Mac is out for the year…
by LPKingsFan on Feb 18, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why Petrie would do this?
You said it yourself. Gooden expires this season, Brad’s got another year. Nocioni’s deal declines in value over the next three years, so it’s not a huge bump over Salmons.
But it certainly doesn’t seem like fair value for Salmons AND Miller. There’s gotta be a pick thrown in here…
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sam's updated
OKC and San Antonio interested in Salmons – he also noted Bobby and John sitting out tonight, but no additional info at this point.
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the phone's are ringing off the hook suddenly
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How About
Salmons and Bobby Brown to Portland for Channing Frye and Sergio Rodriguez? Am I crazy?
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by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yes
Why for us?
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not sold on either of those guys
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
instead of nocioni...
couldn’t hinrich be swapped for nocioni, numbers-wise?
by sactoreg on Feb 18, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
4 and 30
Which is the number of years and millions of dollars (approximately) left on Nocioni’s contract. To me, this seems like another Udrih-esque contract that we’d need to get out from under at some point in the future. Why do the Kings make this deal?
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by outrider on Feb 18, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected...
Looks like Nocioni only has 3 years left.
Still…
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by outrider on Feb 18, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Confused
ESPN says Nocioni has 5 years left on his contract
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by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sham Sports
Has him with three more after this season, and a team option for the season after that…
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's where
I got Nocioni’s contract info, which I assumed was accurate….
http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/contracts
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by outrider on Feb 18, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ruh Roh
Per Sam: http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/019736.html#Comments_Container
I’ve been told more about the Chicago-Kings deal and had the pieces confirmed.
It’s Salmons and Miller for Nocioni, Gooden, Michael Ruffin (expiring worth $1.1 million) and Cedric Simmons ($1.7 million expiring). And there are indications that it’s close to happening.
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better be a pick as well.
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by moproblemz on Feb 18, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hang up or at least get a first round pick!
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by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible
That part of the reason this deal could get done is that GP is still interested in Gooden as a player (and not just an expiring?)
Beware certitude.
by Reges on Feb 18, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder myself
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dunno
I don’t think he solves any of the problems in the frontcourt…he’s damn near redundant I think. Nocioni maybe?
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Redundant...
Yep. I don’t want him soaking up Shock’s minutes.
Beware certitude.
by Reges on Feb 18, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gooden
Actually, if he plays well, I wouldn’t mind keeping Gooden at least for next season. Problem is, would he go for a one-year deal? Doubtful
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by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why, so he can take time away from Justin Thompson?
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I would assume the Kings would drop Moore and hopefully could trade away Shelden and KT. That would leave the backup PF spot to Gooden. JT can’t play 48 minutes. Now, if the Kings got the #1 pick and got Griffin, then Gooden goes bye-bye
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by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we could find any way to get rid of
K9 or Mikki, we would have. No one is going to come collect our trash without giving us theirs back.
by ForThree on Feb 18, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OH NO!!
Without a pick this would be VERY bad. I do like Gooden (more than most people here) but I don’t want that Nocioni contract.
Sam also said this on his blog: “Anyway, Oklahoma City is in the mix as well with the expiring for Desmond Mason ($5.3 million) and three priceless first round picks at its disposal. San Antonio is involved as well, but doesn’t appear to have enough to get it done.”
Geoff: DO THAT!!! Get some PICKS!
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by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
the OKC deal >>> the Chicago deal, IMHO
by LPKingsFan on Feb 18, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know about that
There aren’t really any specifics on a proposed deal with OKC. But a first rounder sounds mighty tasty.
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amick:
Anyway, Oklahoma City is in the mix as well with the expiring for Desmond Mason ($5.3 million) and three priceless first round picks at its disposal.
Nothing confirmed, yes, but a much better possibility.
by LPKingsFan on Feb 18, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it'll take a whole lot of scooby snacks
for me to sign off on this deal.
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My hope
is that Geoff is leaking these updates to Sam to scare Presti into sweetening the pick for Salmons
by LPKingsFan on Feb 18, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
larry hughes!
I don’t know, if Chicago is packaging all their crap and sending it to the Kings, we might as well get the full poo-poo platter. C’mon Petrie, you know you want Big Shot Larry taking up Kevin Martin minutes!
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nocioni is a good player.
Given good minutes he’s worth his salary. The question is.. would we sign a better FA than the Argentinian, if all we got now was expiring contracts?
by ZenBaller on Feb 18, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we would sign no free agent at all
And that’s the debate: what has more value, Nocionio, or the cap space taken up by Nociono?
For me, the cap space is a no-brainer.
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No FA at all?
Cap Space is not a good basketball player, Nocioni is.
by ZenBaller on Feb 18, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather take cap space
Than a 29 year old making absurd money until he’s 34
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
come on now - 32
Though I don’t know what I think about this
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When Noc signed his contract
he was a slightly above average player; he has since regressed, hard.
Its not just money spent this summer, its money spent for the next several years that keeps you from making substantive changes.
If this summer Nocioni was a FA and Petrie signed him to a 3yr MLE deal, these boards would go berzerk, and rightfully so. That’s the same thing as getting him now. You just bought another bad MLE deal rather than letting Miller expire.
by ForThree on Feb 18, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who might be suddenly re-thinking the NewOrl situation
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bummer for pookey today
I think he’s sitting in a dentist’s chair instead of following the bouncing trade ball.
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by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Paul wants out of New Orleans!
I’m making this up, but it’s a possibility with owner George Shinn in fire sale mode. Let’s move heaven and earth to get CP3!
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by Holmdel on Feb 18, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
From Amick's blog
There are a few conflicting signs out there, but a top source says the Kings are talking to New Jersey about a deal that would send Miller and Salmons to the Nets for hometown boy Ryan Anderson, Stromile Swift, Trenton Hassell, and Eduardo Najera.
by shadow1480 on Feb 18, 2009 12:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Anderson
equates to a late first round pick and expirings for Miller and Salmons. Wait, how much is Najera on the books for next year? Or was it just a one-year deal? I can’t remember.
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More from Sam:
There are a few conflicting signs out there, but a top source says the Kings are talking to New Jersey about a deal that would send Miller and Salmons to the Nets for hometown boy Ryan Anderson, Stromile Swift, Trenton Hassell, and Eduardo Najera.
by Ziller on Feb 18, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and i was going to post this too
but you got beat by a full minute and don’t delete other peoples posts pretending you didn’t :)
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson!
Didn’t I say they should try to get the home town boy to put at least some butts in the seats?
But what do the Nets want with this deal? Are they all the sudden trying to compete? Isn’t Brook Lopez doing fine at C?
Still think/hope this is posturing to get a pick along with Desmond Mason.
by LPKingsFan on Feb 18, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or at least leaking this to the Bee
So the fans think they’re making a good go at getting the hometown boy. This one doesn’t make any sense at all.
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's at least within the realm of possibility
The Nets are supposedly trying to shed Vince Carter for salary purposes. You don’t generally do something like that and then turn around and take on more salary.
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless they're close to getting rid of VC
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you were close to getting rid of VC
Why would you then turn around load up with more salaries?
I mean, New Jersey isn’t unloading Vince Carter so they can snatch up Brad Miller and John Salmons.
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2010
Miller expires in 2010. Salmons is cheap and fills (in some fashion) a Carter void.
by Ziller on Feb 18, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm good with it
Not sure who plays the 3 for us…
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Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i know
Just convinced he’s best as a 6th man
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Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Start Greene
let him play with the big boys and bring Cisco off the bench
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's
what i wanna see, but not sure if he’s “ready” to play those minutes.
But I do wanna see Donte out there.
by shadow1480 on Feb 18, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Donte' 'tll he proves he's earned it
In an ideal world Cisco is a 6th man
Its not ideal around here
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Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same could be said for Salmons
ideally he’d be a good 6th man.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cisco or Donté
or the Rocket’s pick. Solid threes are doable in the late teens.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you laughing?
He’s a tough, decent player. Always beats the snot out of the Kings.
by Ziller on Feb 18, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with that
is that he’s one of the mediocre forwards that kills the Kings. But when you put him on the Kings, he no longer has a team that he’s a monster against because he’s playing for them.
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not a starter, but
yeah, man, Eduardo is one nasty basketball player! We could use a little bit of what he brings on to the court.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Feb 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a three?
He’s a good back-up PF to come in and rough up the opposing bigs and keep the intensity vibrant, but as a starting three? Does he really have the offensive ability/defensive speed to do that?
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by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
I still have a hard time believing they’d want Miller and Salmons at the expense of more 2010 salary at the expense of Ryan Anderson when the entire point of the VC deal is to clear his salary.
by nbrans on Feb 18, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Almost seems as unfeasible as Petrie wanting Nocioni.
by Ziller on Feb 18, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They want to clear salary for Lebron
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just picture every silly
auction scene you’ve ever watched.
NJ, was just scratching their nose.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey that happens
I run auctions. People get caught up in the bidding – smart people – before they know it.
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Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take this over the bulls offer.
Stromile is 6.2m expiring, Najera is only guaranteed 3mill next year, Ryan is a prsopect, and Hassel has an early termination clause.
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by moproblemz on Feb 18, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Petrie is reading the blogs
He’s trying to fuck with us giving Amick false info. DAMN YOU GEOFF!
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Ryan but
I’m all for the Kings getting Ryan but Najera for 4 years!
by Doubl3Dos3 on Feb 18, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just next year guaranteed
two more 1 yr team options. But hassel for a year as well?
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Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Najera's last two years are unguaranteed.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Feb 18, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sweetner
I like this better than the Bulls deal for sure then. So it’s only Hassell we’d be eating. I’m all for it. Seems they may be close to trading Vince then if they want Salmons.
by Doubl3Dos3 on Feb 18, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but if they're trading Vince
why do they want Salmons/Miller?
by LPKingsFan on Feb 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Salmons plays the 3, Miller plays the 4, Lopez plays the 5
Seems to work.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Feb 18, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Anderson ($1.2 million this season, $1.3 next season with two team options thereafter), Stromile Swift ($6.2 million expiring), Trenton Hassell ($4.3 million this season with $4.3 million next as player option), and Eduardo Najera ($3.4 million this season, $3.1 million in 2009-10, $2.8 million in 2010-11 and $2.6 million in 2011-12).
by shadow1480 on Feb 18, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do this trade
Assuming the Kings dump Najera and Hassell after 2010? Ryan Anderson is going to be a very good player in MHO
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
While I'm not totally against this
an draft pick needs to be involved and it better be an unprotected first rounder this year.
I like Nocioni but he’s just a more expensive Salmons, who rebounds better. I think as a starting 3 he’ll put up the same point totals as Salmons but grab more rebounds. I just think he’s too expensive and we’d have him for too long. But, if the Bulls throw in this years potential lottery pick it’d definitely soften the blow
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wish that I'd taken today off -
Nothing seems to be happening, but it’s happening awfully fast.
Take that, Yogi Berra…you rat bastard!
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Feb 18, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hah!
I feel the same way. I hate the day before the deadline. Why would I wanna post payments to some snotty kids’ accounts when I can watch the most exciting grass growing ever
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Grass Growing
And the discussion it causes. Great stuff. I feel like a retired old man on my front porch yelling at kids to stay off my lawn. Why I feel this way I have no clue….
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to walk down to the store
a good 30 minutes there and back.
Perhaps all the worlds problems will be solved by then (?) :)
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's good excercise, lieto!
And by the time you get back we’ll have that Wizards first rd pick delivered for you.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Feb 18, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Might have to do that walk 10 times
21 more hours?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, good math
40 times?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, is it
30 minutes each way, or 30 minutes total???? Hard to tell from his initial post.
Yes, I’m bored.
Mambo King
by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Total
He said:
30 minutes there and back
So it’s like 42 trips
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Still not sure
You could interpret that as “30 minutes total to get there and back” or “30 minutes there and 30 minutes back”.
Clarification please!!
Mambo King
by otis29 on Feb 18, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Back I'm back
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look what you missed
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine...
it’ll be good for him.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Feb 18, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
30 minutes?!
Do you know what can happen in 30 minutes? By then we could have the Wizards unrpotected first rounder and Lebron coming our way! Or nothing could happen at all. Why would you want to miss it?
I have no idea how I’ll survive my hour long drive home. Will this be discussed on 1140?
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the reminder
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
while I'm not here to disagree
I am confused as to what generated this statement.
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'
by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
easy
bq.I have no idea how I’ll survive my hour long drive home. Will this be discussed on 1140?
by shadow1480 on Feb 18, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea how I’ll survive my hour long drive home. Will this be discussed on 1140?
by shadow1480 on Feb 18, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ah, it works when
i don’t rush my comment. Interesting.
by shadow1480 on Feb 18, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amick:
* There are indications that the Chicago deal is close to done, and it involves Portland.
Ike Diogu gets moved for Ruffin.
Please God let there be a pick
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by vfettke on Feb 18, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
doubt the pick would be left unmentioned
it’d be the best part of the deal
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
by Holmdel on Feb 18, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please no
Ryan Anderson >>> Ike Diogu
by thekangarooster on Feb 18, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh For Goodness Sakes
So then our power forward depth lineup will look like this:
Jason Thompson – Drew Gooden – Mikki Moore – Ike Diogu – Kenny Thomas
Shelden Williams is also a power forward that plays center. Talk about a hydra.
Holy cow.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Late to the party
I’m gonna take as a given that because we suck, it doesn’t matter if we get Drew Gooden or King Kong Bundy back in a trade as the expiring. We don’t need more wins. So we’re flipping Miller a year early to dump salary and trading our main chip Salmons for extra years of Nocioni? This is retarded. Am I wrong?
by discocricket on Feb 18, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You are not wrong
We all think its retarded. Well most of us.
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have not heard a single person in favor of the deal
only lttg said Nocion was not THAT bad, and Ziller agreed.
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'
by iashwash on Feb 18, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Petrie is in favor of the deal
Because it looks like its happening.
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct sir
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it happened.
According to the front page of ESPN.com.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
by Jaycee on Feb 18, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
...And on the front page for Yahoo! sports...
Petrie. My trust in you, just because of this, has dropped from 50% to 0%. It looks like he’s deliberately trying to ruin this club.
by CloudyEyes on Feb 18, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
God help us all
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 18, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really understand this
I know its been said here before but this kind of looks like a deal just to be making a deal, I personally like Salmons and I know we have been trying to get Miller out but I just don’t see many advantages to this particular deal
by MTBalla on Feb 18, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to turn against Petrie. History will show if the trade is wrong after 3 years.
I’d like though to read an explanation of this trade from Petrie’s point of view.
by ZenBaller on Feb 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If they had to do this to move Miller
to save space for something pending (still crossing my fingers on that Wash pick)
Its worth it.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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