Summary of Sacramento's Deadline Moves
by Ziller on Feb 19, 2009 1:03 PM PST
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* You already know about Brad Miller and John Salmons for Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden, Ike Diogu and Cedric Simmons. Portland paid for the rest of Diogu's 2008-09 salary. Several reports claim Gooden is nowhere near healthy. The trade saves $10 million next season, but adds $1 million in 2010-11 and $6 million in 2011-12.
* As a result of the above trade, Sam Cassell (acquired earlier this week for a $350,000 profit) and Quincy Douby were waived.
* The Kings traded Bobby Brown and Shelden Williams to Minnesota for Rashad McCants and Calvin Booth. The deal saves $740,000 next season, as Brown had a player option.
* The Kings waived Mikki Moore, according to Sam Amick. That will hang his $2 million guaranteed salary on the team's 2009-10 payroll.
* The Kings tried to trade Kenny Thomas to New York for Nate Robinson and Jared Jeffries. Robinson is a restricted free agent this summer. That would have hung Jeffries' 2011-12 $6.8 million salary on the Sacramento payroll. But the Knicks rejected the offer, on the assumed basis that Robinson is awesome.
* UPDATE Amick reports that the Kings will take on Will Solomon's tiny contract along with cash from Boston in a deal that sends Celtic Patrick O'Bryant to Toronto. Solomon has an expiring contract.
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Weird day.
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Here's what I don't understand
Why acquire McCants, and Booth, to save money, only to waste that much more of it to acquire Nate Robinson and Jared Jeffries? I don’t really understand that at all.
Other than that, I like the moves overall. All of them made sense, and saved the Kings money in one way or the other.
I think the Bobby Brown trade only proved what several people around here had said for awhile: if Bobby Brown isn’t stopping anybody what kind of worth does he really have for this team? I think it’s evident management felt the same way.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd like an updated roster run-down soooon
Seems like half the team are mediocre power forwards….
Natt couldn’t figure out a rotation that made sense before – now?
Hah!!!!
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
For instance:
Who will play back-up Center?
Who will be JT’s primary back-up?
Who will start at small forward? garcia or Noce?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Amick update
(1:07 p.m.)
The Kings did squeeze in one last deal, as a league source tells me they did a three-team deal to Will Solomon and cash from Boston while Toronto gets Patrick O’Bryant and the Celtics get a conditional future second round pick.
The Landlord – The man with the lowest Sweet Game to Nickname Ratio, ever.
by babasin on Feb 19, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And the important part is the Kings get cash out of the deal
Gee, what a surprise, that they’re dealing away 2nd round picks that mean crap, in order to get some cash now. (I bet the pick is heavily protected like the pick for Cassell was.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably more protected
Since he’s a second year player that’s 30 years old. Played for the Grizz in 01-02 then disappeared until this year, I guess?
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by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He played oversea's some
That’s what I read off the Boston Globe feed though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a PG
I assume he’s insurance in case Bobby Jackson dies or Beno Udrih gets hurt.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So he's our new Bobby Brown basically?
All paid for by Boston presumably. Did we give up a super protected 2nd rounder in 2043 or something?
by Aykis16 on Feb 19, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ super protected 2nd rounder in 2043
Yeah, probably something like that. Probably in 2011 or 2012 though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
An Interesting Stat on Will
Will Solomon is 9th in the NBA in assists per minute. That is better than players such as Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions, Chauncey Billups, Kirk Hinrich, Luke Ridnour, Baron Davis, Chris Duhon, Devin Harris, Andre Miller, Jameer Nelson, Derrick Rose, TJ Ford, Mike Bibby, Russell Westbrook, Steve Blake and, suprisingly, Beno Udrih. Not saying he is the Kings next PG. Far from it. But considering Beno is 53rd and Bobby Brown is 69th, 9th doesn’t look so bad. He also has a very respectable 2.51 assist to turnover ratio. Better than Beno’s 1.90 and Bobby’s 1.85.
Just food for thought.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 19, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be in the Top 10 in Assists
If I had KG, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen to pass the ball to!
The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.
by gdub171 on Feb 19, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
Didn’t realize TOR had that kind of roster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 19, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Solomon played for Toronto
You are right that averaging a lot of assists for a team like Sacramento is much harder than for Toronto. We will see.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 19, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Will Solomon?
from where?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's also why Mikki Moore was waived
To open up that spot.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to find his stats - was he Boston or Toronto?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto
But he’s a bit player Lttg. He’s the 3rd string PG behind Calderon & Ukic.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
3.2 assists per game in 14 minutes is pretty decent
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh My God
I wonder if this means if Bobby Jackson might get waived. (Seriously.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He actually plays?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
39 games this year, started 9
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Well, whatever works. If he contributes any, good.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice assist to TO ratio
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like a pass first PG
6’1’’ so he’s not big
An amazing 37.8% of baskets scored by teammates on the floor were assist by him.
Really, really bad 3pt% and by the stats not much of a defender. Turns the ball over a lot too.
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3.2 to 1.3 is bad?
in which world?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry - little harsh
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was looking at TOV%
20.4 TOV% – an estimate of the number of turnovers per 100 plays. 20.4 is really bad, its double most point guards.
The guy gets a tons of assists though.
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically
it looks like when he’s on the floor, he totally dominates the ball, either getting an assist or a TO.
Appropriate caution for limited data sample size though of course.
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of 'catch and shoot' guys on Toronto
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind
he plays limited minutes to its kind of a small sample size, no?
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to be more specific then
“Appropriate caution for limited data sample size though of course”
vfettke :)
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ the gentle reminder
I love it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe bold it next time
so that dumb motherfuckers like me don’t just skip over it and make themselves look like complete jackasses
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is anybody expecting Solomon to get mins over
B Jax or Udrih right now?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is BJax sorry he's still here?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter
Cuz he might have to live with it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what's sad?
I’m really disappointed that we didn’t get to see Sam I Am in a Kings uniform?
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
LOl Vf
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is no laughing matter
I fuckin’ love Sam Cassell. Dude is a badass floor general and is funny as hell. He’s tougher than anyone on our team not named Jason Thompson and is pushing 60
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL yeah i get it
It’s just that, Sam was too old.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sam's the Clint Eastwood of the NBA
He’s too old. Everyone knows it. He knows it. But no one’s got the balls to say it because he’s still a badass motherfucker that nobody wants to mess with.
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When you're done
You’re done homey. I, too, like Sam I Am.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thabo Sefalosha also got moved
I’m assuming the Thunder used their exception from the Delonte West deal, and they gave up a 1st rounder to the Bulls. Interesting on 2 fronts. Supposedly this puts the Bulls under the tax now too.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's a good move for OKC.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Feb 19, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe maybe not
We’ll see. I’ll hold my breath on that one.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls picked up either SA or Denvers #1 in this deal-
I’m wondering if this pick isn’t coming our way due to the Gooden injury issue.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
by jjham15 on Feb 19, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So
Udrih,Kmart,Noc,JT,Hawes
BJax,McCants,Garcia,Diago,Gooden
Solomon,Simmons,Green,K9,Booth
OR do Hawes & Gooden swap? OR do Noc & Garcia swap? Or BOTH?
by hudson101 on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Gooden is going to play much
Cuz right now he is hurt. And I dont’ think the Kings will play him to aggravate his injury any more. I’m willing to bet that Ike Diogu is the 3rd big whose going to get time in the rotation. Which is not a bad thing at this point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I like the Diogu addition
with the right coach/mentor I think he can lose the Nellie-related lack of confidence that he got to start his career and become a decent player
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think your first thought is right to start with
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I don’t think the starting lineup is going to change.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't know who the hell 'Simmons' is though
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cedric Simmons
Came over in the Miller/Salmons trade.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He isn't going to get much time
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know what a shock right?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With Mikki being waived
Are Kings stuck with the $2 mil. buyout tab for next season? Any chance it comes off if he gets picked up by another team?
by ttylerbballcamper on Feb 19, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Some of it will
depending what hey pay him both this year, if he gets picked – and next
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe just a little this year
depending what they pay vet minimum-wise
next year I think is set no matter what
(I’m not sure)
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Some of what they will owe him will come off from what he gets paid if he gets picked up by another team.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Woke up from nap and ...
We offered the knicks a deal for nate robinson and they didn’t take it? This deal was ideal for them. I would of loved to see nate in a kings uni. Fill the stands!!! Disappointed we didn’t get nate and also disappointed we didn’t get rid of nocioni to the Cs. If petrie would of pulled all this off, IMO he would of been my hero
by SacKings4Life on Feb 19, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think Noc will help our young bigs & KMart ALOT!
He`s a hard nosed rebounding SF who`s not afraid to do the dirty work w/o crying for the ball or dribbling it forever .(Like that sent.)Did I mention he can hit the 3?
by hudson101 on Feb 19, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Will Silomon used to play here in Greece some years ago.
He was a star in a mediocre team called Aris and he managed to win a minor European cup which is kind of a big deal here.
The one thing I remember about him is that he was making about 90 out of 100 (European) 3pointers in every practice and in-game he was chucking up 3s worse than Donte.
The funny thing is that I wasn’t sure if the term “chucking up” is correct so I made a yahoo search and the first find was about Solomon. LOL
by ZenBaller on Feb 19, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
a real life “when you look in the dictionary under … there’s a picture of …”
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 19, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Booth has gotten into one game this yr for 42 seconds!
(he got an offensive board in those 42 seconds though)
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 1:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why is Amick mentioning that teams are wondering if we will release him?
In demand?!!
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Questions and comments
Booth was rumored to be wanted by Boston but since we just were in a trade with Boston and he was not involved I would guess we his staying.
Big issue here is backing up hawes. Besides 6-10 gooden both simmons and ike are only 6-9 thats not center size. Gooden might be worse off than expected so chances are he sits the rest of the year and gets cut so that means we are really short at center.
Backing up Beno now I guess is Jackson. Hmmm neither one can pass the ball at all so unless Martin and Thompson bring the ball down themselves who is gonna get it to them.
Mccants is a scorer he was in college and has showed flashes of that in the nba nearly 14 last year I believe
Give Kenny Thomas some time? He is a solid rebounder and Defender when he gets some time. After all when you only play every other month you would be rusty also
by xtremedyme on Feb 19, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That last line might get you banned
Saying that Kenny Thomas should be given time around here is a no-no….
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Cuz we hunt you down without mercy...
…hunt you down all nightmare long."
I will cut you, sucka. I will cut you real deep, you go talking that bullshit ’round here.
by PhutureKings on Feb 19, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed sir
Indeed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HUH?
Give K9 time? What – is this his mother?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Diogu or Gooden will get the minutes
Booth may get a few
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Honestly whats the issue with kenny….Im open for the real reasons besides his contract which is not his fault
by xtremedyme on Feb 19, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you Watch the games???
he Was an energy guy with few actual skills who lost his energy edge.
Thats it – simple
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
of course
But like I said when coach only calls your name every 2 weeks for 5 minutes how can you. Give him 10 or so and hes good for 6 and 6 easy on hustle alone
by xtremedyme on Feb 19, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Diogu is being auditioned
One of the few in this bunch we may keep
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the other reason I think the Kings did the Shelden/BB deal lttg
Is to audition Ike Diogu for the backup PF spot. Can’t really do that with Shel around.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I concur with pook
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I concur with lttg
and we both concur with pook
by mayfieldcol on Feb 19, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ike Diogu...
The Return of Corliss Williamson…except with a 8’3" wingspan and no heart.
by DustyG on Feb 19, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's what people dont' realize
He has an amazing wingspan. I hope he can pan out for us.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Diogu
I have some friends that are Warriors fans, and we would joke about Ike. He has a great name, and he is pretty interesting looking…almost pear-shaped with the arms of a man a foot taller. Looks and performs like a strange mixture of Sleepy Sam Perkins and Corliss Williamson.
Dude can also chew gum like a maniac…watch for that…
by DustyG on Feb 19, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Dusty
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Thomas
The biggest problem is that, for whatever reason, the coaches (three of them!) have not played him significant minutes. Which, to me, says that he’s not good enough to play garbage minutes on a 20-win team.
The coaches watch him practice, they talk to him, they work with him. I believe that, whatever the fan sentiments might be, the coaches would play him if he could in any way help the team. PARTICULARLY since he’s making so much $$$.
Coming to you live from the land of interim coaches.
by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 19, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So why did Kenny Natt play him against NJ?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No you didn't just say that
All I heard was woof,woof,woof,woof….
by nothingbutnet on Feb 19, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mccants?
Will he get any minutes? And who starts Nocioni or Cisco….I know as kings fans we love Cisco but what has he really done. Nocioni has been a starter and shows flashes I put him as the next Toni Kukoc
by xtremedyme on Feb 19, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nocioni starts if its up to me
Cisco is a 6th man
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I agree however we take a hit behind 3 point line though with nocioni
by xtremedyme on Feb 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
He’s a decent 3 pt guy, in fact almost 1/2 his shots are 3’s in the 24 minutes he was getting. 37%
With KM penetrating and kicking out to someone who’s 1st(!) instinct is to shoot – rather than dribble, I think he’ll do well.
He may thrive (maybe not, but he’ll get his chance)
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think most hate his contract, not Nocioni.
I have a feeling I’ll like him once hes playing for us. As long as he’s close to playing like he did a couple years ago.
by MITCH FRONTAGE on Feb 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If he starts and thrives next to KM
It may look better
We’ll have to see, he’s going to get a lot of shots.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what the team is thinking RE Mccants
Is he filler – or will they give him a shot?
no idea….
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think they were looking to shake up the team
For an interim basis. Without touching their core to do it. They did that don’t you think?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Im guessing just another expiring and save the 750 k owed to Brown
Other than that it doesn’t make much sense. Im still trying to figure out what the roster looks like. Hello #1 draft pick (Come on you fucking ping pong balls)
by MITCH FRONTAGE on Feb 19, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was about saving $750k
and a complete tiny chance of success roll of the dice.
The talent is there for McCants, he’s just an idiot. If he stopped being an idiot, who knows? Unlikely but what’s the downside?
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see my question about McCants vs Robinson
And how both of them would play together when they both need the ball? I think that would be a major issue 4 3.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know enough about Mccants
just that he’s been a headcase
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's grow up
His chances are running out…
Yeah, I think they shook things up a LOT
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't McCants torch us in a game last season?
Taking a chance on GP/Coachie being able to rescrew his head on a little straighter the next two months is worth giving up watching young Bobby trying to imitate old Bobby for next season, IMO.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 19, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a funny idea
K9 may finally be a valuable (somewhat) trade chip next summer for a team that wants to reload and needs to dump a good player.
Fantasy??
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Glad we didn’t take on Jeffries for him. Even though Robinson would have been interesting to have.
by MITCH FRONTAGE on Feb 19, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You agree he might finally be worth some prior to 2010?
Or that I’m fantasizing?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That he might be a good expiring at about 8 million.
Amount that could net us a good player.
by MITCH FRONTAGE on Feb 19, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
I might have shot myself (for real) if Nate Rob would have came here. Which is a bit ironic since Nate Rob is from Seattle, and I live here…. Shit I just hate imagining Nate Rob in a Kings uni.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I said that already
But having said that, I think you’re right. 8.8 million dollars of a purely available trade chip is worth seeking deals. But the RIGHT kind of deal.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would have to be someone big contract-wise
A star
(I think its probably fantasy)
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To get a big start
It would be a package of talent that includes Kenny’s contract.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
big star^
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In a "movie trailer" voice
From the producers that brough you the “Theo Rattlif expiring contract” and the directors who atempted to trade the “Raef LaFrentz expiring contract” and the “Wally Scerbiak expiring contract” comes one of the most coveted trading assets the NBA has ever seen: the “Kenny Thomas expiring contract”!!!!!!!
In every King’s trade next season…
Woof, woof!!
"Let's stop arguing and get together and agree on who really is the problem: PEACHES" - HighTops
by eduardo_m7 on Feb 19, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sponsered by .................... nobody
nice E7. Rec’d for silver lining attitude
by betweentheeyes on Feb 20, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's how you make K9 valuable next year
You make a good pick with the Houston pick or Donte gets better.
K9 becomes really useful to fill in the gap between someone that’s demonstrably good already and someone else the other team likes but is young/cheap.
—Just an example—
We decide we like…Caron Butler
Butler probably makes good money right? Washington likes whomever we drafted with our late #1 and we get Butler for that guy + K9’s expiring deal. We get definitely better right away landing a star, Washington gets a young guy that might pan out and a wasted year of K9’s expiring contract.
The way to make K9 useful is to have cheap assets lying around other teams want. Your cheap good (bot not great or you keep it yourself + K9 = a real good player another team wants out of.
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why everyone wanted to trade with Portland the last couple of days
and its why Portland is probably stupid for not making a deal.
Its also why the Cavs couldn’t make a deal even with Wally’s awesome expiring, they have nothing cheap anyone wants except Hickson. Its hard to make straight trades of good players for expiring only. The fan base likes the hope of someone young coming also.
by ForThree on Feb 19, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure thats what happened with the Cavs
they didn’t want to mess with something working.
but I think Portland should have done something, too late now, but I will shed no tears for them, they’re doing fine.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree about Portland
I don’t think they needed a move exactly, even though I think Salmons would have been perfect for them. Their choice.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They could have traded for another expiring
+ a young player.
OK for them, they don’t need the money and an expiring vet may have helped in the playoffs
Good for the other team because insurance covers most of LaFrze salary
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but they were thinking about themselves too
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Portland needed to make a move
Especially since the Miles issue touched off so much league-wide resentment, they felt like they were well within their right to take their ball & go home.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect example of why keeping Thomas isn't the worst thing in the world.
Even though it may seem that way.
by MITCH FRONTAGE on Feb 19, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is also the bonus of
seeing Bill Simmons use “Kenny Thomas’ expiring contract” over the course of the next 12 months.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 19, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hadn't thought of that
Good call Kfan.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
It’s not the worst thing in the world that we still have K9 on the books, because by this time next year, his expiring salary will look good to somebody willing to part w/ talent.
by PhutureKings on Feb 19, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll keep those hopes alive!!!
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You may not be aware of this
But Calvin Booth has a PER of 40.
by Deleran on Feb 19, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where to post this question...
Can someone explain to me Boston’s side of the two deals they did with us? If all they were doing was freeing up roster spots, why wouldn’t they just cut players? Why did they have to trade two players for our 2nd round picks that they might not ever get anyways? There must be some weird rule I’m not aware of? Or am I missing something obvious?
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 19, 2009 3:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
having a possible 2nd round pick is better than having nothing?
by Viliphied on Feb 19, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at signing some/one of the many players
who will be waived in the next few days
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and it lightens thier luxury tax payment
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But why not just waive two players and sign different ones? Why the trades? Why for picks that they might not collect on anyways?
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 19, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I may be way off base
but this is my guess:
Boston is over the tax line, so for every dollar over that line they have to pay an additional dollar. So let’s say Cassell was making 100 dollars. If they kept him or waived him, they’d have to pay the rest of his salary for the season(say 30 dollars) + the $100 penalty.
Now if they can pay the Kings $35 to take Sam for the rest of the season, the Kings make $5 and the Celts save $30 of luxury tax penalty – $5 extra to Sac = $25 net savings for the Celts over just releasing him. Everybody wins.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 19, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another
REad what Kfan wrote. That’s exactly what Boston did. (Just with a lot more money.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I said that
I guess I didn’t explain it though
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, ASSN still wasn't clear
after your post, so I was trying to make it more plain.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 19, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say this about Charles Barkley
He pulled out the ‘Gollum’ reference to Sam Cassell
How did we miss that one????
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 5:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I always thought that Cassell
looks like a Ferengi. That said, he’d be a great addition to the front office. I hear Ferengi are killer business negotiators.
by hozr on Feb 19, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kings fans, i have sent thee
Son of David, King Solomon, to show unto thou the basketball knowledge of the great Kings from the past.
I created light on the first day but it was not until the fourth day that I created the sun and the moon, ponder that.
by -God- on Feb 19, 2009 11:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I guess this means we should get Jesus Shuttlesworth to play the two.
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by section214 on Feb 20, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a team player
I heard that at least one of his team mates denied him, three times even!
by hozr on Feb 20, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but rose to play again
Dwayne Wade isn’t the only one
by betweentheeyes on Feb 20, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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