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What's Left to See in Sacramento: Kevin Martin

Now that the dust has cleared, let's consider the remaining 27 games of the Sacramento Kings' 2008-09 season.

Kevin Martin

Speed has managed to boost his three-point shooting percentage for the fifth straight season. He's already No. 57 in NBA history. He's taking more threes than ever. This is encouraging, and we should hope it continues.

Martin's two-point field goal percentage, however, is painful. He's at 42% there, the worst clip since his rookie season. It's not a matter of not getting foul calls -- his FTA/game are higher than ever. It's a combination of settling for the attempt to simply draw contact in the act of shooting too often, and of not finishing. The latter can be partly attributed to the spell when his ankle looked worse; the first part -- settling too often for a chance at a whistle -- needs to be fixed. Still, his True Shooting percentage is on the cusp of 60%; if he manages that, he'd be one of the few to maintain such an efficient clip for four straight seasons. (It's unheard of for a top scorer.)

His turnovers have increased this season. The most blatant change in this regard as been the propensity to travel when trying to blow by a defender on the perimeter. Not fun. But this has been limited recently; it appears he has figured out the problem and nipped it. All told, he has a low turnover rate for a high-usage player. But it used to be lower, and it'd help the team greatly were it lower again.

Martin's defense in Wednesday's game against Atlanta was the best we've seen since 2005-06. He basically shut down Joe Johnson, with some help. No small feat. Defensive rebounding ties in with this; it's been a problem all year for Kevin, but something that has improved of late. With Mikki Moore and John Salmons gone, the team's rebounding should naturally improve. But it needs even more of a boost, and Martin can improve here.

And yes ... that mystical mistress named Leadership. It's hard to argue that a team that looks like this has had any leadership. Martin leads by example, but there were/are too many examples to the contrary. I'm not absolving Martin, or burdening Martin. This is a bad team overall, and that's no one player's fault. But at some point, your highly paid players need to grab everyone by the lapels and scream a bit. I think Kevin knows that. I think he has known that since November. But that's a tough skill to develop in these circumstances, and I have trouble blaming him for Brad Miller not caring.

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I think the good thing about these trades

Is that it shook up the roster to the point where only the players who have any real future here are left. Well minus Kenny Thomas. And eventually he won’t be on the roster anymore either.

Kevin has had his ups & downs this season. I’m very interested to see how these remaining games play out. (One reason I bought the half season league pass I suppose.) How Kevin performs is part of that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Leadership is something that can't really be developed

Kevin Martin isn’t suddenly going to become the next Bryant, Garnett, MJ, or Paul in the leadership area. But he can definitely score with them.

That said, I think he is a hard worker, and more than worth the contract Geoff Petrie gave to him. He is the best this horrible horrible team has going for it and I have been a big fan of his since he was drafted. I pretty much watch the Kings to see Kevin get his (sad I know), but younger and older players alike can learn a lot from Kevin’s hard work.

I look forward to seeing the new look Kings and I hope they find a great coach this off season, I feel that is the true weakness of this team.

by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 19, 2009 7:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It CAN be developed

but its hard and usually doesn’t happen with ‘lead by example’ guys like he admits he is.

but it happens

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wins

I know that the Kings wanted to clear cap room this week but are they officially tanking the season? Are they the first team to shoot for a better draft position? And how many wins can the Kings end up with? Will they win five more games this year?

by Zach H from Talk H on Feb 19, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How can you tank it when 2 of your starters were on the court for the large part of the team you were amassing that record?

If anything, I think the Kings did this because they’re trying to get more competitive. As crazy as that sounds.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True

But doesn’t this “youth movement” signify giving up? Which would technically be tanking. Just curious if that’s how other people saw it.

by Zach H from Talk H on Feb 19, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a sign the team wants to win

It’s not like the team was winning with it’s veterans. I’d much rather see a youthful “tanking” team playing hard. If this team finished with the worst overall record, the first pick, and a pick from 18-22 with the Houston pick, than in fact I think this season will have worked perfectly.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Clippers aren't winning games cuz they don't have all their horses

They just aren’t that good without all their players.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Clips have a better than average amount of talent

young and veteran. They have 12 wins. That is on coaching first, managment second = Dunleavy.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 20, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They also have

a horrible mix of personalities and coaches.

The Clippers would make a good fantasy basketball team, but the way their pieces fit together is just abysmal. A great coach would be able to figure things out and get them on the right track.

They have Mike Dunleavy.

by ForThree on Feb 20, 2009 6:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dunleavy is a halfcourt coach

with a PG that like to play uptempo. Baron underperforms at a slow pace.

by mayfieldcol on Feb 20, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you tank

when you’re already in last place and the team’s been trying all along?

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Feb 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we really wanted to tank,

we’d hire Kevin McHale as our GM.

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by section214 on Feb 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah - Sorry

We cellar dwellars need to stick together. Best of luck on AJ’s rehab (I mean that).

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by section214 on Feb 19, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He seems to be a hell of a coach

and good luck on the injury front.

by mayfieldcol on Feb 20, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Um,

In case you’ve never looked at it before, it says you’re a Wolves fan on your SBN profile.

Standard operating procedulre. When a new guy posts, you see who he is.

Coming to you live from the land of interim coaches.

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 21, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With brad gone, kevin is now clearly "the man" and with the kids and the newcomers he will never have

a better opportunity to establish his leadership mojo. He has focused on his game every year and improved every year and I believe that he has the freedom to focus on his leadership responsibilities and improve them as well.

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Feb 19, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Supposition

I think had Martin’s ankle not first been dinged up, then misdiagnosed, it’s possible that he’d have been in contention for an All-Star slot, even from an awful team. The improvements that Z mentioned will be about all KM will be able to take from an otherwise dismal season.

But as to leadership, that’s something else. Kevin is a fantastic player, and tough, but generally seems to be soft-spoken. If he could develop the impulse to do the lapel-grabbing, even off the court and in private, it’s possible he could show leadership in the manner that Doug Christie did, although Martin seems less inclined to let it rip than DC did.

What the Kings need, and I repeat this for the thousandth time, is a guy like Chris Webber.

“Duh! Wouldn’t that be nice?”

It’d be nice if this neo-Webber had those kinds of skills, but we have had a guy like that since C-Webb left: Ron Artest.

The team needs a player, who is the lightning rod. He’s going to get too much credit when the Kings win, and take too much blame when the Kings lose. Webber had broad enough shoulders to handle it, occassional tantrums aside, and even Ron-Ron, nutty as he is, seemed to be able to deal, although that may have been more out of practice after the media glare of the brawl fiasco.

I’m not advocating to get Ron back, but the team needs a leader of this type. Bibby claimed he was going to be that guy after C-Webb got traded, but it’s not in his nature to do so, and I’m not sure if it’s in Martin’s either, absolutely no disrespect intended. The best thing that could happen for Martin is for a Kings player to steal all of the ink while K-Mart quietly drops 26 a night.

Yeah, it’d be nice if this unnamed player could be an All-Star. Dare to dream, I say, we’re down to a .200 winning percentage. It won’t last forever, I feel good about the future, cloudy though it remains.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 19, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

100% agree with everything

I may be jumping the gun here, but I have a hope and a dream that the player you’re talking about is already on our roster, and 12 or so years from now we’ll be hanging number 34 next to number 4.

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 20, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the All-Star Break

did wonders for K-Mart’s ankle. Which is why his defense was so good last night. If he can play d like that every night, he’s going to be an All-Star next year.

by Aykis16 on Feb 19, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's nice that people are saying nice things about him defensively

It’s almost a step up.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

that he was playing hard for Bibby’s return, they were and probably are good friends.

Hope

by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 19, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see that effort continue

Kevin impressed me last night.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Quick!

Find Kevin some more friends!

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by section214 on Feb 19, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Martin is the team

I would almost say this could have been written 55 games ago. He is something special, surrounded by spare parts.

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by louismg on Feb 19, 2009 8:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with that a bit

He’s the best player of the group the Franchise is banking as a core to return this team to prominence.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 19, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Get better players around him and he'll be better

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed and rec'd

27 games to audition the pieces that have very little chance of staying and 27 games to give Martin/Hawes/JT/Beno/Nocioni/Garcia a chance to start figuring things out.

by ForThree on Feb 20, 2009 6:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you end up adding

McCants to that list. But he clearly has to show he belongs and is willing to resign for an appropriate-sized deal. I see him as kind of an Eddie House instant offense off the bench kind of guy if he is willing to fill that role.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 20, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"if he is willing to fill that role"

is the operative statement there.

Honestly, McCants could actually be really good, just like J.R. Rider could have been really good. Will he grow up? The magic 8-ball hasn’t been in his favor on that recently, but we can hope.

by ForThree on Feb 20, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We used to be very good at reclamation projects like that

but I wonder how much of it was due to Adelman’s talent at being able to work with guys like that. Do we (or will we) have a coaching staff that can effectively deal with reclamation projects. There are times when it seems like GP is acquiring players as if Adelman was still here.

by hozr on Feb 20, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe there should be two leaders

BJax seems to be a team leader in the locker room. He puts it all on the line when he’s on the court and he’s a senior guy, so the guys listen to what he says when he talks. But, he’s not the leader on the court. On the court you need a guy that wants the ball at crunch time, and makes the play.

Jordan was both, but we don’t need one guy. We’ve had enough guys in the locker room, calling meeting, and calling out guys. But, we haven’t had that finisher on the floor. Someone who takes the ball at the end of the game when we need a basket, and gets the job done. He doesn’t have to make the basket every time, but he needs to make the play. Make the pass to the open guy, drive to the rim and pass to the open big under the rim for the dunk, and yes hit the shot with no time on the clock.

Salmons, Martin, Miller, BJax & even Douby have had the opportunity but failed more often then not. I don’t think that player is on this team yet. Maybe after the draft, 2009 or 2010.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Feb 20, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I forget exactly which game

But one of the tough overtime losses, we were falling apart again at the end of regulation (Beno had probably just kicked the ball out of bounds, or Martin traveled) and out of nowhere Spence gets the ball and nails a beautiful clutch shot to tie or something, and then a little bit later he hit another one to send it to overtime, and I remember thinking “Oh my God, someone on this team actually has testicles!”. And then he missed a tough shot at the end of the overtime, but he at least took a shot (instead of some mind-boggling turnover like everyone else has been doing all season).

I was suddenly a Hawes fan after that game (I’ve been mostly on the fence with him since we drafted him). I haven’t quite seen from him what I saw in that game, but I think part of that has been the coach’s fault and partly his teammates, but he proved to me that he has that kind of player inside of him.

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 20, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Conveniently forgetting

the dozens of times Kevin Martin has made one of those clutch shots at the end of games.

by ForThree on Feb 20, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dozens?

Be lucky if it is a handful.

If it was dozens we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 20, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well said CC

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 20, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well said sir... you are going green

I know you are probably not worried about what others think but more positive comments like that would help us understand a little better where are coming from.

"Let's stop arguing and get together and agree on who really is the problem: PEACHES" - HighTops

by eduardo_m7 on Feb 20, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well

It’s been kind of tough to be positive this year. Now we have a fresh start.

I am so glad Petrie didn’t sit on his hands. In fact, anything but, and you have to give him a lot of credit for shaking things up.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 21, 2009 12:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

And agreed.

I Rec’d the parent post a long time ago, glad to see it got 5.

by smgmatt on Feb 24, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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