According to sources with knowledge of the situation, [Drew Gooden] has had recent discussions with the Kings regarding a possible buyout of the remaining portion of his expiring contract ($7.1 million this season).
While it does not appear likely, Gooden's window of opportunity to join a potential playoff team closes at 9 p.m. Pacific time tonight. That is the deadline for players to join teams and still be eligible to be on the playoff roster.
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Makes no sense to me
I guess the Kings could save 1.4 million if Gooden forgoes the rest of his salary, but he could still have some value as a tradeable chip in the off season to teams that are over cap. It’s not my 1.4 but I think the latter is of more value than the former.
Gooden's a free agent at the end of the season
And I don’t see him commanding the type of contract that would call for a sign and trade scenario.
He’s not the future, so if letting him go means saving a few bucks and we get to see the other guys more as a result, why not?
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by section214 on Mar 1, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I'm with ya on that
Why waste time? Gooden can’t want to be here. He gets nothing out of being here really. The Kings are better off not having Gooden long term anyway.
I personally hope they waive him so he can just get out of here.
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I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Gooden needs a team that will give him PT,
he’s in a contract year, and needs to play to show he’s still worth a contract next year. Plus he’s injured, so no one else is going to offer him a contract before Monday. And, without a chance to get another contract somewhere else, why would he give up money,
He’s valuable to the Kings, if only to keep Natt from going small ball every game. Yes, he might take a few minutes from JT & Hawes, but they might get more time together if Gooden can just give them rest time, and not start for them. I’d rather see JT & Hawes playing in their natural position, then along with guys playing out of position in (natt’s small ball).
Natt is the problem not Gooden. Besides, with his injury he’ll probably only play every third game until the end of the season.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
This is not about Gooden
It’s about saving as much $$$ as possible. Financially, the Kings are going down like the Titanic. Gooden won’t help sell tickets or the Kings this season. This season’s a wreck, so the Maloofs are cutting losses and saving as much $$$ as possible for next season.
It's about why Gooden would be willing to take a cut in Pay $$$.
and he won’t, which I covered in the 1st paragraph.
Excuse me for clouding the arguement, by suggesting if he doesn’t agree to a buyou, that it might not be bad for the Kings.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Players have been known to take less money to play for a contender.
Most recently, Marbury. (though I still can’t understand why Boston would take the risk)
There can only be one Noce!
Boston takes the risk because if it doesn't work out
they just bench him. They were already Championship contenders without him.
If he plays like they want him to, they’ll be even better.
I may have to eat my words
but I think I’ll wait until I see him sign another contract this year. I can’t see his agent allowing him to do this, unless they had someone showing interest. But, he only had $2M left on this years contract, so if he walked away from that much money, he better get resigned or he’s an idiot. If he does resign then I guess I’m the idiot. But, I’m sure alot of you already knew that.
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Once he clears waivers
He’ll get re-signed. Dallas and San Antonio both want him. (He’d fit better in San Antone though in my opinion.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Rec'd. I'm all for more victories but I don't think Gooden's
going to be that much of a difference. Much better to go with the guys we know are going to be here next year (Hawes, Shock, Greene and Nocioni)
There can only be one Noce!
Why do the Kings need to overpay for Drew Gooden?
Why? Why? Why?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
It's become a habit an addiction since they signed K9.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
They didn't sign K9.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
The Kings will want a significant drop in salary just to waive him
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
RealGM: Cavs Interested In 'Surprise' Free Agent?
I say waive him
Please learn how to link Zen. It’s really irritating to see that uncovered link.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I can't believe
that Utah would just waive Boozer, when they could have at least received something for him at the trade deadline. But stranger things have happened.
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And Boozer to Cleveland? Even harder to believe.
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ESPN thinks that Joe Smith (currently with OKC) is Cleveland’s man.
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Boozer is Not an expiring contract
He has an ETO
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Mar 1, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Not so sure about that
The salary cap is going down, so the Max contract limit is too. And, with only about 2 teams having enough cap space to sign him, it’s going to be a buyers market. Plus with another injury on his resume, he doesn’t look as good as he once did.
If he opts out, and Utah can’t do a sign & trade, he might not get a offer as high as the contract he already has. 2010 should have more buyers, and offer a better time to negotiate.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
2010 he wouldn't be the marquee player
If he opts out now he’s going to be the best player available. But I see your point. And a lot of teams will have money to give too.
If I was Boozer I'm waiting until '10.
No way he’s getting the money he probably thinks he deserves this summer with the situation as it is. By waiting until next summer he may not be the top of the class (Bron, Wade, and Bosh are) but he will still be on the second tier. Once those big free agents are gone, all the other teams who have been saving and missed out on them will be willing to throw money at players like Boozer.
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Agreed, Plus
if the cap continues to decline, a lot of those big names (Bron, Wade,and Bosh) might have to take the 10% minimum pay raise to go to another team. The cap is rumored to be $57.3M next yr and possibly $54-55M in 2010. With a cap of $55M the max, which is a percentage of the cap (between 25-35% of salary cap based on years of service) Boozer could receive would be $16.5M or $5M more then he’ll make this year. If he opts out this year, the max based on a $57.3M cap next yr is $17.2M . But, considering the economy, it’s unlikely that he’ll get a max offer anyways, so he won’t be gambling much if he waits.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Gooden
He’d be a good piece if we were a bubble team that needed a solid rotation player. We’re not, and all he’s going to do is tease us while taking time away from our young bigs.
I’d rather resign Simmons for $1 mil-$1.5 mil and have him play 10-15 minutes agame next year while Spencer and JT continue to develop than hang onto Gooden.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 1, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions
I wouldn't mind JT having a competant PF
to learn some things from.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 1, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
'Reef and game time > Gooden and sitting on the bench
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by section214 on Mar 1, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure I agree
playing and locking in bad habits might not be helpful. Gooden has a lot of polish – and I think its different coming from a coach, there’s not that competetive urge to get better, to Beat that guy.
I’m not sure either way though, it depends on the player I suppose. Just throwing it out there.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 1, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I hope it happens
for no other reason than Gooden’s Kings jersey joining the Rasheed Wallace Hawks jersey hall of fame of stupid jersey buys. I’ve got my Nelson “haha!” ready to any unsuspecting Gooden Kings jersey wearer.
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Mar 1, 2009 12:28 PM PST reply actions
Forget the jersey
I want the Cassell shorts, tailored for the extra large balls.
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Everyone wins
Gooden gets to join a contender, Kings save some money (hopefully), and our young bigs keep their minutes. Do it!!!
"Let's stop arguing and get together and agree on who really is the problem: PEACHES" - HighTops
I take it there is no new news…?
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
No lol
I don’t think Gooden was waived, so it’s all a moot point. Which means my personal hell, with work on an additional 4th ring tha is currently under construction, is complete.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
It would seem so
So construction has been halted on the 4th ring. But I always hold that clause in reserve in case it becomes pertinent.
Here is the fanshot of the Gooden waiving.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Apologies Green
But there is an update via Amick and the Kings Blog: Gooden was in fact bought out.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
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