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Where Spencer Hawes Shoots, and Where Spencer Hawes Scores

Let's get funky with NBA Hot Spots data. First, here's the straight map of Spencer Hawes' shooting quality this season: his FG% in different zones of the court.

Hot1_medium Now we'll add the quantity: how many of Hawes' shots came from each distance? (Note: I'm combining zones at this point: rim, close, long two, threes.)

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Let's look at this in chart form. just the basics: frequency and quality (expressed as effective field goal percentage to denote the greater point value of threes).

TYPE FREQ. eFG%
Rim 53% .532
Close 17% .356
Long 2 17% .386
Threes 13% .520


Hawes is good at the rim, basically league average among those with a lot of shots inside. And he's a fine deep shooter (at least this season), with 26 makes in 75 attempts -- roughly 35%. That may not seem good. But look at the chart again, and remember that threes are worth 50% more than twos. That extra point is a huge difference. Shooting 35% on threes is the equivalent of shooting 52% on twos. (For instance, Kevin Martin's incredible 43% on threes is the equivalent of 65% on twos.)

So good at the rim, good from deep -- he can improve in both areas (by finishing stronger and setting his feet on his long ball). But the real improvement is needed in between: the short game and the mid-range game.

Look at the Hot Spots on the "close" range again. From each baseline, it's absolutely brutal.  In front of the rim, it's good -- this is where Hawes takes a runner, or a flip-up off of a spin move into the lane, or one of those gorgeous running hooks. Yes, the running hooks is gorgeous.

The baseline turnaround hook? Hideous. Maybe that's a step too far -- they do look good ... but they rarely go in. This is all really sort of amazing to me. Hawes is still growing into his body and skill set -- he can be a bit clumsy. (See: turnovers, defense.) As we've said, he needs to work on setting his feet on his deep shots. His limbs tend to flail a bit -- not so much his arms/elbow, but his hips and legs. So you'd think that'd be the case with his running hook, right? Well, yeah. And he does look a bit out-of-control. But it works! It goes down consistently. Why? My theory is that the movement of the move has the defender off Hawes' face a bit -- there's some more separation. Hawes doesn't get much (if any) lift on any shot other than the dunk. The 6-10, 6-11, 7-foot defenders don't bother his baseline hook ... but they can body up and keep a hand in his face. They can't do this on the running hook, lest a foul call or spin move leave them brokenhearted.

Hawes' footwork -- the spin move, the up-and-under, the deke -- help him get room on the running hook. Against poor defender, you'll notice that Hawes infrequently turns to the running hook -- because it's unnecessary. As soon as he gets the ball on the block he has easier plays to the rim (typically a spin at this point ... which is to say Coach Reef is teaching him well). These easier plays don't always work out (read: turnovers, slow moves allowing help to arrive). But they exist, and Hawes tried to take them.

But the footwork seems to be little help on the baseline, where there's no room to operate. Hawes works quickly down there, usually passing right out to the perimeter or flipping up the quick hook. These quick hooks (almost) never go down. I'm not sure why -- it could be a sample size issue (although they didn't go down last year) or a particular tic that throws the whole thing off. Assuming it's an unfixable tic -- the Achilles heel of Spencer's offense -- there are still some fixes.

1. Set up on the block instead of deep against the baseline. This is on the guards -- the delivery of the ball is what secures position at any particular point. The ball needs to come closer to the middle of the floor, which means it needs to be a crisper, quicker pass before the hands start flying in from the top. Hawes need to catch these cleanly.

2. Try to back down defenders. Spring a guard (Francisco Garcia or Kevin Martin would be the best options) to the strongside wing. Hawes isn't STRONG, but he's strong. He can try to push in and get a better angle (using his footwork) than the baseline hook. If it's not working, the guard can get loose and receive a pass for a jumper or a drive. Passing out of the post doesn't necessarily require a double team.

3. Face up and get some spring. Yao Ming should be the only NBA player Hawes can't get a decent 8-foot baseline jumper over.

Okay, so that's the "close" area. What about the "long 2" area?

Stop shooting them.

Brad Miller and Chris Webber made them, sure. Jason Thompson can make them. Mikki Moore made them. Spencer Hawes isn't making them. In this offense, he has little reason to take them. He's a featured scorer, not the distributor/fulcrum Miller has been. Get Hawes to the block or stick him in a high pick-and-roll a la Deron Williams/Mehmet Okur. But there's little reason to have Hawes at the high post in a corner series or quasi-triangle set right now. How many Martin/Hawes pick-and-rolls have we seen this season? Two? Three? Need. More. Screen-rolls.

Hawes' shooting percentage, for a big man, is hideous right now. But the fundamentals are strong, and he'll get there. He'll get there quicker by taking better shots and by the team running more sensible plays.

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Great Analysis TZ

The best part about Spencer is that he’s only 20. And he’s already made huge strides from last year. He could end up being one of the premiere centers in this league if he works at it, and he seems like the kind of guy who will bust his ass to get there. I could see him as a 17 pts, 11 rbds, 4 asts, 2 blks player in his prime.

I also love the running hook. Very Vlade like. Vlade needs to teach him how to score on the other sides of the rim though.

by Aykis16 on Mar 12, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Based on Hawes now

I’d think Hawes, at some point in his career, is going to be a 12-15ppg // 10 boards // 1.5 to 2 blocks per game guy. If he’s trained right, since his ceiling is still high right now, I think he can become a good player ala Tyson Chandler.

by CloudyEyes on Mar 12, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

More inside shots than I thought

Why not very good at drawing fouls? Too much finesse even at the rim? I don’t know….

Doesn’t seem like he suffers from a lot of ‘no calls’ to me.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 12, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

My comment from the other day's game wrap-up

Elbow, dig, lean, poke, shove your way into the block young man.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 12, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this

Exactly how is Hawes supposed to do this consistently if he doesn’t get the ball in spots where it’s likely he’ll get a quality shot or get a foul call? Explain how he could this better. Enlighten us lttg.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think hes a very finese-ey type player

And I don’t think that drawing fouls will be something that he will ever be really “good” at. Thats just the kind of player that he is, I don’t think there is anything wrong with that as long as he plays his game and remains effective on the court. He could get better at it, but thats just not something he developed growing up playing, I think it would be good to accept him for his strengths and try to improve his weakness’s although not expect him to turn into an entirely different player.

Plus its only his second year. I don’t even think he can order a tasty adult beverage yet.

by jstnblke41 on Mar 12, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not until April 28th anyway

I hope to not see him at Ozzies.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOl hehe

Yeah, that could be a possibility. Just imagine him, Donte & JT on that thing. 3 goofballs being goofy in Lower Queen Anne. That’s never happened before….

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Analysis

I’m not even sure where to begin, but I beam reading this. It’s like; the god masquerading TZ is back, or something.

On the real, JJ in another thread mentioned that he could learn how to pump fake. In the audio that David Thorpe mentioned how quickly the game was going by JT. Spencer has similar issue’s even though recently he seems to have a better idea of he’s going to score, he does get lost in the shuffle.

I can’t ever remember a team being utterly awful at post entries, but other than Garcia or Martin, this team is awful at it. Natt’s coaching isn’t helping in this regard either. This is a strict Jump Shooting team, and even though one guy can help them inside, they don’t bother utilizing him.

Again, great analysis. It highlights exactly how good Spencer has become, and exactly why this team has quite a ways to go before it gets back to the playoffs let alone anything beyond that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

If Spencer turns into

Mehmet Okur on the offense side, I’ll be extremely happy because he has the athletic skills to change the game defensively which is Okur’s one weakness.

smell the ashes

by iamstern'skippah! on Mar 12, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd be happy too

But I think his ceiling is quite a bit higher then Okurs. He seems willing to bang and play down low, and he has a good skill set that allows him to play away from the basket. He is a true throwback center, able to play high post and low post. (although his high post play can be greatly improved.)

by jstnblke41 on Mar 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't we going to need a few All-Stars to win a championship?

Will hawes be one? Will JT?

I have my doubts

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 12, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definatley a point

My best case scenario would be having an all-star point guard that pushes Kevin to be recognized as the new Reggie Miller of the NBA and having a strong bench with Hawes and JT being recognized as very good borderline all-stars.

Maybe its just me, but I really love the way Hawes plays if only because thats how I run my offense with my 8th graders, with a strong high post player that creates back cuts and mismatches. I think he can become a feared player in the league, maybe not quite an all-star or maybe he can.

by jstnblke41 on Mar 12, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

To have the Best Chance at being a great team

You need

A Good/great PG (not in residence)
A great scorer (got it in KM – IMO)
and a great post player who can defend the rim and score when jumpers aren’t falling. (Jury definately out)

There’s work to do.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 12, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake Griffin's post defense is going to solve everything

Yayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

PG - such a skeptic
lake Griffin’s post defense is going to solve everything

Hawes is a good call as a throw back – he is not exceptionally strong or athletic. His biggest assets are his footwork, his length (he plays tall), his passing, his work ethic and mostly, his intelligence. He is more “Euro” than present day US – that is neither good nor bad as he defends with an American toughness which is innate rather than learned.

I am in the minority but I see more upside to Spencer than JT. He will get wider and stronger, he will also get smarter (look at the jump from last year to this year) and his abilities are unique in the league. He isn’t Kevin McHale with flawless footwork, but I see him more in that direction than Okur who looks to three. The mid-range game is a big area for improvement.

What I would want to see from Spencer is a go-to move. Webber had that inside jump hook that he abandoned in his last few seasons, but it was a thing of beauty . If Spencer could develop that set hook he would be golden. He would also get the ball more and it would give him the level of confidence that he only shows flashes of now.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 12, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

another thing

The Kings as they are currently constructed and are “future constructed” Hawes as a 3 point shooter is a plus but with Kevin Martin, Cisco, Noce and both Donte and the new PG (Rubio? Teague?) there are enough 3 point shooters. Spencer doesn’t need to be Okur, Nowitzki, Rasheed – he can be those guys later in his career when he no longer has the body to bang down low.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 12, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Apparently the numbers don’t support me, but I trust Hawes to make open shots in the “long 2” range. It seems that the problem is that he’s not taking open shots, which is a function of both the Kings’ poor offensive excecution and Hawes’s 20 year-old judgement failures.

Obviously this isn’t a new idea, but these are precisely the reasons that the Kings need a quality PG immediately. Also, as TZ implies by calling for the pick and roll, it would be nice to have the real Jerry Sloan.

by furious.d on Mar 12, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the greater problem for Spencer

Is where he thinks he can get his shots, and then figuring out how he can execute them. He’s so young that even though he has improved lately, it’s still not a given he knows what shots he should be taking, and more importantly, from what spots on the floor.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I blame shot selection, not (outside) shot-making ability. I think the outside jumper will make him much more dangerous if he learns to use it effectively (i.e. to draw out strong interior defenders, not as an excuse to avoid playing in the post).

by furious.d on Mar 12, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of the problem as I see it

The Kings keep asking Hawes to do different things every 20 games or so. They ask him to play down low or up top or in between, and they haven’t really settled on exactly what they see his role as. I imagine, among other things, when they look for a coach this off-season that’s something they’ll be looking for. (I hope.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the coach has a good power point presentation on how he'll

incorporate Shock, Hawes and Speed into the offense.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 12, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The challenge

is that our offense always looks so good in practice, because it is going up against our defense.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Mar 12, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

This isn't the sneaky argument for Muss is it?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

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by section214 on Mar 12, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's the sneaky jab at the Maloof's highering policies

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 12, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's actually a policy?

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by section214 on Mar 12, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah firing them as quickly as possible :P

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

hiring policies^

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 12, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that's what I meant

because the last few hirings have not lifted my spirits higher in the least.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 12, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn Beno!

If we take under consideration that Rasheed Wallace is shooting at only 42%, then Hawes’ percentage is ok. The main difference is that about half of Rasheed’s attempted shots are 3s. Spencer’s 3s and long twos comprise 30 % of his shots.

Raheed had 44% FGM pre-all star and just 35% post all-star. Something tells me that Stuckey is no Billups.

As Ziller said, if we had the right PG to facilitate Spencer’s shots as Billups did for Rasheed and Deron for Okur, our boy could shine offensively. I assume the same would apply for all the other players too. That would be a huge offensive boost in an already good offensive team as the Kings.

(And yes I believe we have a great offensive team as long as you forget the possessions that end up in turnovers and that we have no offensive inside presence to score with more than 50% consistently)

by ZenBaller on Mar 12, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

excellent analysis

I could imagine Spence reading this, taking note, and improving as a result. TZ, you might have made our little team a little better.

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Mar 12, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I could see that too

Which would make me wonder why in the frak the Kings are relying on SactownRoyalty for statistics about their team.

By the way TZ – great stuff as usual.

by Carl on Mar 12, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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