Lots, lots and lots of discontent from Nocioni

Dissatisfied with his health and dissatisfied with his performance this year overall... But, mostly dissatisfied with Sacramento. With individualism and the lack of team-chemistry, with results and with the near future hopes of the very young and individualistic team. Still, decided to work as hard as he can and to do what he can for the team, but if there was a chance he would be hapy to join a contender. The highlight? 'Sacramento is more interested in saving money than in the development of the team.' Quite disturbing reading.

(A rough summary, I think, if someone with language abilities might check it...)

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My Spanish is rusty

But not so rusty that I can’t read that he is one angry hombre. He talks about the possibility of the team moving, calling the situation unstable.

I hope he’s just frustrated by his injuries and the many losses and not an habitual malcontent.

Coming to you live from the land of interim coaches.

by LeaguePassAddict on Mar 25, 2009 7:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What concerns me are statements such as

‘Si Chicago era una banda, Sacramento son dos bandas’ (If Chicago was a team, Sacramento is two teams)

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Mar 25, 2009 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is concerning...

…as is the notion that Sac has the same “individualismo” as Chicago. I blame that on a lack of a point guard, one who can integrate the players into a unit. Although I think, as Big Nuts alludes to, the presence of so many young players trying to prove themselves also leads to an individualistic style of play.

The direct quotes the OP referenced:
“Pero si Sacramento puede mejorar, no tengo dramas en seguir. El tema es que acá están más preocupados por no perder tanto dinero que en el equipo que se viene.”

“Me dijeron que sí, que quieren mejorar el equipo y que yo contagie mi esfuerzo, pero por ahora priorizan más lo ecónomico que lo deportivo.”

The told me that they wish to improve the team…but they are prioritizing economics over the game.

by sactown on Mar 25, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

not exactly

“Una banda” means that a team plays without order, like a street team. The “bandas” are teams who plays without intensity and effort whose players only play to score a lot of points

by Matenja on Mar 25, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two years of high school Spanish, and this is all I have:

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Mar 25, 2009 7:13 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs

Beautiful!

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is how I talk, ain't you seen my movies!

by MITCH FRONTAGE on Mar 25, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rec'd

for general baddass-ery

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by vfettke on Mar 25, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

rec'd for the following reasons:

General Bad-Assery
Truth
Shared Personal Opinion
Ability to Serve as an Important Public Announcement for Our Newest “Citizens”

by PhutureKings on Mar 25, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to be disrespectful or offputting (both of which I am)

But, umm, it’s not KFfCE’s fault that the article was in Spanish, of which I might add, he is not a native speaker of either, English, or Spanish.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was actually

making fun of himself and making a more general point, both funny and one which was somewhat irreverent. Nothing worse than bowing at the feet political correctness. (Notice though that only certain targets are off limits.)

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

I wasn’t making a point about that at all. And political correctness is for lack of a more appropriate word, lame.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

One thing is for certain, Pookey,

you DO NOT bow down to the PC Police! Lol! :-) And that, sir, is the true beauty of your contributions here. (Well, aside from a Rain Man – like ability to cite past games and the salary cap rules ;-)

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wapner is on at 4 :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did that really get pulled off

by the PC Picture Police? How freakin’ Orwellian.

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Say what?

by Ziller on Mar 25, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe my work is blocking the pic

but I don’t see it anymore. If that’s the case, my apologies for an undeserved comment. If not, I don’t understand why it was pulled.

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you're talking about the Sam Jackson pic

It is still up.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Slow loading.

At least at work. At home this morning it popped right up.

by mayfieldcol on Mar 25, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn't pulled

Still there.

In fact, I rec’d it.

by Ziller on Mar 25, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that I would know (completely)

But I find it rare that you delete just about anything.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think my client site just

has crazy filters for everything. B*stards!!!

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

From reading the article

It’s hard not to agree with his statements concerning the team chemistry; it hasn’t been there all year. With that said, I don’t really see it getting any worse. I just hope these players realize that teams around the league don’t respect them right now.

by kingsfan300 on Mar 25, 2009 8:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

This does not surprise me

Confirms my assessment that the organization is in total and complete disarray. I have a feeling Nocioni will be gone next year and he knows it. He has a lot of nads pointing out the emperor has no clothes.

by KingsFan on Mar 25, 2009 8:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I appreciate his honesty

And I agree with his assessment; although I do not think he is being completely fair, e.g. yes the front office is trying to save money but common Big Nuts, look around, the franchise, the city, the state, the country is teetering on financial meltdown. I bet you’re not investing your whole salary in California munies right now, are you? Because I hear there’s a big auction coming up soon to fund commercial real estate development in your new home town. Care to pony up?

by BrooklynFan on Mar 25, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Rubio could translate this for us...

just saying.

There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru

by moproblemz on Mar 25, 2009 8:30 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

The kind of thing that Keeps Rubio in Europe

‘Hmmm, Maybe another year here would be a good thing…’

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really news though

Its obvious the team isn’t much of a team right now.

As far as saving money, well, thats a pretty new phenomenon based on the economy, the attendance and the fact they were paying out $70mil for that team.

Its got to be frustrating to go from a decent team to one that looks years away.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Deadline to declare is after the lottery.

So he can back out if he hates the top 3 teams. That being said hiring a new coach will help make the Kings more attractive.

by mayfieldcol on Mar 25, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No it's before the lottery

Like 3 days before.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Besides,

How often is it that a player loves the top 3 teams in the draft? I think Derricsk Rose and LBJ are probably the only 2 players in the past 10 years that were happy about where they were going. Teams are top 3 draft teams because they’re not very good. Waiting another year wouldn’t make it that much better.

by PhutureKings on Mar 25, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My comment was tongue in cheek

I think they know they’ll usually go to a crappy team. I don’t know if it affect thier decision. Maaaybe with a guy like him who is already making money, doesn’t speak the language, family, ect. it adds up.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Adds up to another load of your BS

Didn’t we already go over this?
He doesn’t actually make much money (80k in Euros which I would be ecstatic with, but not much for pro-bball player). And he’s fluent in English.

Pookey wrote this in response to one of your other propaganda pieces:

…or that he’s fluent in English and Spanish already,

and similarly pookey wrote in a different thread that you participated in…

Anybody wanna guess the over/under that Rubio will be very popular for all of Sacramento?

Considering A) he’s Spanish, and speaks it fluently, but B) he’s also fluent in English as well (or speaks it well enough to be considered communicated by DX). These are called marketing opportunities he might not have in Spain.

Your perpetual bullshit is annoying and a disservice to the rest of the readers here. Just like your comment regarding how only a few people wouldn’t want Griffin, you again fluff your own crap to emphasize your preference.

For what? Does it make you feel better? Will influencing our opinions somehow encourage Petrie to draft a big man? Will Blake Griffin run back into your arms when he moves to Sacramento?

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Mar 25, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Can't we all just get along"

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only if you're a Democrat Kus

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As soon as I get that lobotomy..... ;-)

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or your manhood cut off :P

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If only

We could go back to the George W. Bush era, everything would be OK. Right?

by Carl on Mar 25, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will Blake Griffin run back into your arms when he moves to Sacramento?

Won’t Thabeet already be there???

Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not allowing natural selection to do its work. You're like the guy that invented the seat belt.

by otis29 on Mar 25, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Lol!

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Otis

You brighten my day sir.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great

Just great

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Mar 25, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously CAB?

Because I said ‘Maaaybe it will have some part in his decision’? Or because I said ‘they know they’ll go to a crappy team’?

Take a Valium dude – and find where it says that Rubio speaks english.

OH! I know, because pookey said so (?) and his info comes from some secret source we’re not privy to?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect!
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure the whole tone of what I said

was that it probably wouldn’t be a big part of the decision.

Child

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect!
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No man

It’s ‘cause you spill the same bullshit every time. Plenty of places to see that Rubio speaks english, DX, the Interview with him that was posted on here, in addition to Pookey’s words.

At the absolute worst… you call that information a push… but no, you go and say explicitly that he doesn’t speak the language. Considering you are already aware of the previous information, that was a completely made up lie. You my friend, ARE FULL OF SHIT.

I don’t give a f___ if you said maybe, or if your tone “says” something that was opposite of what you wrote…

you did write…

Maaaybe with a guy like him who is already making money, doesn’t speak the language, family, ect. it adds up.

Your message had 3 main parts; 1.You contribute one valid opinion 2.make it irrelevant with “I don’t know” 3. And then conclude with “maybe… (fill in made up BS)” that supports some kind of strange propraganda machine you’ve got going on.

But some how because you placed a “maaaybe” to give yourself some wiggle room of words, a la a politician, that your whole tone becomes…

I’m pretty sure the whole tone of what I said
was that it probably wouldn’t be a big part of the decision.

?
?
What a freaking stretch.

It’s really awesome that you can pull some poli-sci semantics bs to validate yourself. But that doesn’t fly around here. Well, it certainly doesn’t fly with me. Make up more excuses. I won’t care, you’ve proven that you’re full of it. Expect more of the same if you’re going to continue purposely misinforming fellow readers.

But seriously? Valium? Child?

Someone get’s called out, and then calls someone a “child” to finalize their rebuttal. Am I the only one that sees the hilariousness in that?

Weren’t you just the one whining and sniveling because Pookey called you names?

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Mar 25, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What was vague about?

’

my comment was tongue in cheek

’ followed by a ’

maaaaybe

’

subtlety apparently isn’t your strong point (and it wasn’t very subtle)

English is obviously not his language, whether he can stumble through it or not, and Mexican Americans or South Americans are not Spaniards. Not Europeans. Not Home.

All these things I say (plus the $6 mil) may be factors in his decision making, things that obviously will be, – and I’m pushing something?!

I have NO idea where all your anger is coming from, but its misplaced. I have my preferences and opinions on who I’d like to see drafted, state them – and why. (what a thought!)

Thats the whole point here.
Or only people who you agree with are allowed??

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

keep backtracking

English is obviously not his … blah blah cough bullshit.

Doesn’t speak the language

Is what you said. Keep giving the run-around.

The whole point here is that you lied. Knowingly lied. It’s a disservice to the community, and I find that unacceptable.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Mar 25, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Neither of us know how well he speaks English

and thats totally off the point I wasn’t even really trying to make.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just going to repost my original comment and go to bed

My comment was tongue in cheek

I think they know they’ll usually go to a crappy team. I don’t know if it affects thier decision. Maaaybe with a guy like him who is already making money, doesn’t speak the language, family, ect. it adds up.

I was saying Who Knows what will be a part of his decision? If he had already decided to declare – I think we’d know

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No the point is

that you’re trying to push some stupid agenda for no reason at all. And you’re making shit up along the way.

NOT about how well he speaks… ‘cause that’s not what you said. You said he doesn’t speak the language.

Run-arounds, run-arounds, practice the reach, and I’m sure Thabeet will love you.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Mar 25, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

GP and the Maloofs no doubt hang on every word written here. ;p)

World Peace – thats my ‘agenda’.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know ricky Rubio personally

He speaks highly of all of you, and mentions your courage and stupendously large casual pants very often.

" Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. "

by Bushka on Mar 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ya know why I need the HUGE pants - right?

(yeah, long legs)

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anything else he said?

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Mar 26, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My first thought was

How the hell does Nocioni really have a feel for what’s going on in the franchise? One, he hasn’t been with the team very long and two, he’s hardly played due to injuries since he got here.

I’m generally leery of anyone who can walk into a situation and be able to diagnose all of its problems in such a short time.

On the other hand, sometimes it takes an outsider to bring the reality hammer for people that are too close to see the warts of an organization. And if he’s correct, I guess you can strike the idea of “adding professionalism” from Kenny Natt’s accomplishments this season.

Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not allowing natural selection to do its work. You're like the guy that invented the seat belt.

by otis29 on Mar 25, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I totally followed

your initial line of thinking noted in your first paragraph. Once I thought about, though, I realized that what he suggested was actually a pretty fair assessment of this team and its current management strategy.

Kenny Natt has no accomplishments – unless you want to include his stunning inability to understand player rotations and who should be on the floor in given situations.

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ultimately

It depends on the person doing the talking. If this was a Bonzi Wells, a Dennis Rodman or a Stephon Marbury type, you’d laugh it off. Nocioni…not so much.

Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not allowing natural selection to do its work. You're like the guy that invented the seat belt.

by otis29 on Mar 25, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Es la verdad, Otis.

Just a little Spanish lingo in keeping with this post’s genesis…..

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think there are two points in his statements, really

While he is unhappy with the strategies of the franchise, he is not so much of criticising them. On the other hand he is both unhappy and criticising the team, the lack of cohesion and organisation on the court etc.

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Mar 25, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

For a guy with limited Spanish skills

I’d say that’s a pretty good read

by batso on Mar 25, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good summation

Nocioni was a mouthy, whiny, malcontent in Chicago; looks like its only taken him a little over a month to start up here.

I agree sometimes an outsiders perspective is good, I’m just not buying it from Nocioni. There’s no question this organization has some chemistry issues, I just don’t see why Nocioni needs to be complaining about it in the press, when he’s barely been here.

The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell

by ForThree on Mar 25, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't hear he was whiny

Did he whine about basketball-related issues or was it more of a “me-first” sort of whining. My impression as a decidedely non Bulls fan was that he played his ass off most of the time. (Then again, so did Ron Artest when he was with us.)

by Kusian on Mar 25, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What did he say that was wrong?

by Carl on Mar 25, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

any of it

said to a newspaper wasn’t a good idea.

The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell

by ForThree on Mar 26, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree. I've been following the guy for about 7 years now and...

…I seriously doubt anyone has ever thought he was a mouthy malcontent. Would John Paxson have said what he did when Noce was traded if Noce was a mouthy malcontent? Would Deng have almost burst into tears for a teammate who is a locker room cancer?

This is a guy who went on record saying Deng should be in the starting lineup because he was better than him (Noce) and who said Manu and Luis Scola were the stars of the Argentinian team and he was there to provide a need (rebounding and outside shooting)

Noce can be a bit whiny about foul calls in a game but he has never whined about PT or about starting or coming off the bench.

Of course, you should take my Noce opinions with a grain of salt. I obviously like the guy enough to follow him here.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 25, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Everything that I saw out of Chicago was that he whined about calls, period. Other than that, he was thought of as a guy that gave effort and was a pretty good teammate. His contract is longer than I’d like, but that’s about it.

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by section214 on Mar 25, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I do not agree with is the length and depth of the interview.

I think Noce could have stopped a couple of times after making a point instead of going into details. Much of what he said may be valid but some stuff could have been kept between teammates.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 25, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some players have reacted already.

Kings guard Bobby Jackson said he prefers that players voice their frustrations in-house instead of publicly."Everybody knows our ups and our downs, so why go out and talk about it and say, ’That’s how I feel?’ "

I may be a Noce fan but I like BJax’s position on this one.

Doesn’t change the fact that Nocioni’s observations are pretty much true, though.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 26, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sam Amick has a very detailed blog post on this one.

Check it out.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/021046.html

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 26, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yes

And it explains a lot, as it contains Nocioni’s follow-up comments after the interview, worthy of read, definitely

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Mar 26, 2009 3:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is what I was waiting for Noce

Thanks.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 26, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What guy in the NBA doesn't whine about calls?

It’s part of the game. It’s really ingrained into the culture, actually.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

unfortunately true

watching college lately has been refreshing

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think u are confusing mouthy and whiney

With intense, loyal, hard working and most of all wanting and having a strong desire to compete.
Noc is pissed cuz yr team has no identity and gave up Drew to save even more cash.
Noc is as hard working a player as any in the league, he wants to compete and wont stand 4 complete individualism…he’ll be good 4 you guys if u keep him so long as he sits down in games where he’s too hurt 2 help…

by majoyenrac on Mar 25, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd. Oh yeah, just a warning.

Noce gets really mad if you sit him down with less than a broken leg. Just saying.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 25, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I know

And I’m a Noc fan, but he did hurt us in the playoffs 2 years ago when he wouldn’t sit with that plantair facitis….

But gotta love his passion too as when healthy he helped more than he hurt (shows up more on other teams play really than his own, but Noc is a guy who could get 20 on a given night and come from nowhere to be very effective)….

Miss Nocioni, even though I’d take Salmons in a second over him again (Chicago Fan)…

by majoyenrac on Mar 26, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Salmons over Nocioni?

Just wait until Salmon’s shows you his alter egos Pouty “I can’t score if I don’t start” Chin Boobs or Thump Thump “I can bring our team offense to grinding halt” Thumper.

by BrooklynFan on Mar 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They'll

probably be ok with Salmons’ 17.9 PER since he got there over the 12 or so Nocioni was giving them.

The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell

by ForThree on Mar 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As Brooklyn mentions

Salmons has been starting lately because of Deng’s injury

- wait ’till they try to move him back to the bench.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they don't re-sign Gordon,

Salmons could be their starting two-guard next year,

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by section214 on Mar 26, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Salmons-Hinrich

would be a nice guard combo. I’ll take it over Gordon-Salmons, no matter what Bulls fans say (not a call out in any way).

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by submison on Mar 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They’re not moving him back to the bench, Salmons is arguably their 2nd best player. When Deng comes back, I would guess Gordon goes back to the bench.

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by ForThree on Mar 26, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's never gone to the bench this season

-has he?

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by submison on Mar 26, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank's majoyenrac

Told ya I’m here, and I rec’d ya.

Anywho I think that Nocioni’s outburst was just of malcontent so far.. injured in Sacramento, worst record in the league, cutting Drew Gooden, I wasn’t surprised he did it. What I was surprised of, like Bobby Jackson was, that he didn’t voice it in-house but to the press. It’s not like we don’t know this stuff.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Mar 26, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When you get unwillingly traded,

to the worst team in the League which also happens to be in the lowest point of its rebuilding phase and you are 30 years old… it’s “normal” to share your negative feelings with people from your own country. I’m 100% sure he wouldn’t talk like that if he was being interviewed in the USA.

But I guess Nocioni forgot that whatever you say and whoever you say it to, it will be known everywhere on the globe in a matter of hours.

Nocioni lost a bit of his Professionalism rating in the next NBA 2K video game.

by ZenBaller on Mar 26, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I should have read this before I posted what I did

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Mar 26, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who cares...

Nocioni is at best a role player. He may work and play hard, but in the end this guy can only really give you 20 solid minutes. Of course your team sucks, quit complaining. What did you expect, the Kings to all of a sudden be competitive with the arrival of more bench warmers at the trade deadline? Management has clearly shown which direction they were moving in, in February, and that is for the best draft pick and the intention to have a lot of cap space to make some moves. Until they have the ability to bring in some REAL talent, Nocioni needs to stay hush and keep his thoughts to himself, especially when he just arrived, and could not get traded for at least 5 more months. Not a smooth move, but then again, they aren’t paying these guys for their intelligence.

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by Sac King on Mar 26, 2009 11:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Just weird. Your handle is Sac King but you refer to the Kings as "you team"?

But I really shouldn’t be reacting. After all, my handle is NoceOne. You can have one guess why I’m here.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 26, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"your team", I meant.

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by NoceOne on Mar 26, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he was addressing that to Nocioni directly?

Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not allowing natural selection to do its work. You're like the guy that invented the seat belt.

by otis29 on Mar 27, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs