101 Degrees Of Draft Musings
I’m home, sick on a rainy Tuesday. I think that it’s a chest cold, while Mrs. Section214 keeps throwing pleurisy at me (is it Lupus, Doc? Is it Lupus?!?). This would normally be the time that I would break out my first fly over of the upcoming draft. But, seeing as how nbrans has already pontificated on the top players (and whether you agree with his assessments or not, he did a damn fine job), I am now left to sweep up after the elephants.
As I had stated in an earlier piece, I do not believe that this is a weak draft as much as it is one lacking in star quality. As I gaze upon the players that the Kings could secure with their lottery pick, the Houston pick (24th at the moment) and their 2nd round pick (31st right now), I envision a highly entertaining/frustrating/exciting/maddening team for next year. Think about it. If the Kings do not pull off a draft day or preseason deal, they will go into next season with Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson, Donté Greene, Andres Nocioni and Francisco Garcia up front, with Kevin Martin and Beno Udrih at the guards (along with Garcia). Maybe you throw in McCants if he can be had at the right price. Rashad McCants, priced right, head on straight, doing the Bobby Jackson thing off the bench. Me could likey. (Note – for those of you that are about to chime in, “Hey, you forgot about Kenny Thomas,” no, I didn’t.) Now, add to that three rookies that will be asked to contribute to varying degrees.
So, let’s start with the notion that with our first pick, we get one of the following players: Blake Griffin, James Harden, Hasheem Thabeet, Ricky Rubio, Greg Monroe, Jordan Hill, Brandon Jennnings or Jeff Teague. That covers us as low as the 7th pick, even if Rubio doesn’t declare.
All of the above mentioned guys will most likely be gone before the 24th pick, along with Al-Farouq Aminu, Stephen Curry, Jrue Holiday, Earl Clark, Cole Aldrich, B.J. Mullens, Willie Warren and Gerald Henderson. It’s probably safe to say that these guys are either selected, or they will have chosen to return to school based on feedback telling them that they probably won’t be drafted in the top 20.
That’s 16 players off the board. For the sake of time, space, and the fact that no one around here wants to talk about wing players, let’s just toss the following guys into the category of “let’s hope that the other teams choose them so that the C/PF’s and PG’s will drop to us: Chase Budinger, Austin Daye, Demar DeRoza, Tyreke Evans, Damion James, James Johnson, Kyle Singler, Tyler Smith, DaJuan Summers, Evan Turner, Tyler Smith, Sam Young, and Terrence Williams.
Any way you slice it, at least some of the following players should be available by the time we pick at 24 and 31 (listed by position and then alphabetically, not in order of personal preference):
Jerome Jordan, C, Tulsa At 7’0” and 235 lbs., Jordan is really the only center that will be latter half of the 1st round, unless Vanderbilt’s A.J. Ogilvy moves up a little. Jordan is averaging 14pt./9reb/3blk. for Tulsa. Some have compared him to DeAndre Jordan, but DJ was a freshman last year, while JJ is a junior. Perhaps the poor broke man’s Tyson Chandler at best, Duane Causwell at worst.
DeJuan Blair, PF, Pittsburgh It’s been well chronicled around StR what this 6’7”, 265 lb. beast did to Thabeet the last time Pitt and Connecticut met. Blair was the bowling ball and Thabeet was the pin. In spite of being only 6’7”, Blair is averaging almost 13 boards per game, and adding 16 pts. on 60% shooting. I think that DeJuan Blair is what would have happened if LaSalle Thompson and Corliss Williamson had a baby. He could either wind up being a nice scoring punch off the bench, or he could travel the road of Reggie Evans, Danny Fortson and Eduardo Najera (Shelden Williams may also inhabit this same road before long).
Craig Brackins, PF, Iowa State Brackins is averaging 20 and 9, and at 6’10” and 230 lbs. he has a good NBA frame. My concern is that he has a penchant for playing away from the basket. I watch his game and I see nothing that will help the Kings interior defense. That said, GP likes guys that can shoot, and Brackins can shoot. Channing Frye? Frye? Frye?
Tyler Hansbrough, PF, North Carolina 6’9”, 230 lbs., tireless worker, last year’s collegiate player of the year, hustle and heart player, blocks fewer shots than Muggsy Bogues, yada, yada, yada. He’s the kind of guy that every NBA team could use, but you don’t want to have to spend a draft pick on him.
Gani Lawal, PF, Georgia Tech I’m not sure that Lawal is coming out, but if he has a good tournament I’m betting that he declares. At 6’8” and 233 lbs., he’s a tad small for the NBA power forward position. He reminds me a little of Brandon Bass, though Bass is a much, much, much better shooter.
Patrick Patterson, PF, Kentucky I said that Lawal reminded me of Brandon Bass? Patterson is Brandon Bass. Short for a PF at 6’8” and weighing in at 223 lbs., the sophomore does possess a pretty good wingspan and is a fairly active player.
Has anyone noticed that the average height of the PF’s listed is a little under 6’9”? Blake Griffin suddenly seems taller to me.
Darren Collison, PG, UCLA Here’s another guy that at one time was a lottery projection, and he just keeps sliding down the ladder. 6’1”, 165 lbs., so he’s a little on the slight side. But check this out – he’s shooting 58%/42%/92% from 2/3/line, and he has a 2.5–1 assist to turnover ratio, and he averages almost 2 steals per game. Lightning quick, he could be a real nice change of pace PG off the bench, maybe more. Russell Westbrook stole Collison’s thunder last year (deservedly so), and Jrue Holiday is getting a lot of that love this year. But I think that Collison could help a team. The Tyus Edney comparison is probably too easy, but hey, I like easy.
Ty Lawson, PG, North Carolina Lawson was well chronicled here last year, when he was waffling back and forth before finally deciding to return to school. The “experts” currently have him going anywhere from 11th to 27th in this draft, so the NCAA tourney will probably be critical for him. 6’0”, 195 lbs., roughly as quick as Collison, better than a 3-1 assist to turnover average. For the right team, Lawson could be a big contributor in the NBA. I would be surprised to see him drop to the Kings. I would not be surprised to see him vault into the late lottery.
Eric Maynor, PG, VCU 6’2”,…165 lbs.? Son, put some meat on those bones! I like this kid, but I am not yet in loooooove with him. He turns the ball over a bit, is not a consistent deep shooter, and I’m not sure that he’s that great of a finisher. But he’s a gamer. A lot of people like to compare him to Sam Cassell, so if he’s bringing a giant pair of balls with him, grab him (but not by the balls).
Patrick Mills, PG, Saint Mary’s I threw Mills in here because he is becoming a little bit of a local favorite. But the 6’0”, 175 lb. sophomore hurt his shooting wrist about a month ago, and I just don’t think that he will have his game developed to the point where he will declare for the draft this year. I could be wrong, of course. Mills could dazzle at some pre-draft camps and in personal workouts. But my gut tells me that he will return to school for his junior year.
OK, thread time. Who do you like? Who, not so much? Between nbrans and me, who did we miss? What wing players are you just dying to talk about, at the risk of having your fellow StR brethren bellow, “Not another effing wing player!!!”
Ready, fire, aim!
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Is that guy who won NCAA player of the year last year
even a 1st round draft pick? I forget his name. I don’t follow college ball much but the guy seems pretty damn good every time I see him. I not good at evaluating NCAA to NBA talent, but, even though he is tough, he seems a tad small and a tad slow. I’ll give him credit for brining it every game though. Probably would have been a Hall of Famer if he played 50 years ago. In 2009, he reaks of Eduardo Najara. Just one man’s opinion.
Brackins, Jones, Lawson, & Maynor
Any of the above depending who we draft at the #1.
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Probably meant Jordan
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No I meant BasketBall Jones
Thanks, Pook, I did mean to say Jerome Jordan. It’s scary how even though my mind is still failing more and more every day, that Pookey can still read it.
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There was one J
I took a stab HT. A soothsayer I am not.
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I'm leaning Maynor
because he’s capable of being a bit of a game changer I think.
But the thing about draft hype is – guys like Collison get no respect because they’ve been aroung so long, talked about soooo much.
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And yes, nothing but little big guys late (benchwarmers)
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by lietothegirls on Mar 3, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
At either the 2nd rounder
Or Houston’s pick, I’m totally up for a project player at the C position. Especially one who could make a long term impact defensively (like Sam Dalembert—drafted the pick after Gerald Wallace—for instance).
Every guy should be looked at by the Kings, and if there is one guy whom I would like to see more than any other, is probably Collison or Lawton because they could play right away and be rotation players potentially. Defensively, they can also bring it as well.
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In your opinion,
are the PGs mentioned by HighTops good enough to start over Beno? Or ready to be competent backups? PG is such a difficult position. I personally think it will be difficult for a rookie to come in here and get the starting spot. Curious about your thoughts.
Well to be honest
I think the team needs to roll the dice on a backup big and a backup big. I think if you take Rubio in the draft (which is likely if he comes out—which I think will happen) then as the Kings you need to think about fortifying your depth. I also think it’s possible that the 2010 pick could easily net another quality player up front as well as depth’s concerned.
Teague or Rubio could start over Beno (as PG’s) at some point next season. The rest of them? Not a chance, unless any of them make that unforeseen leap. Maybe Jrue Holliday jumps in that boat, but I don’t see Brandon Jennings getting there, and I definitely don’t see any sleeper name doing it right away. As you say Kusian, it’s such a difficult leap. Some of these guys have real holes that can’t be fixed magically. If they could, I suspect we would see 30 perfect teams.
As far as what other sleepers are out there, I really don’t know. This is going to be a difficult draft to read. In general, I’m pretty convinced the Kings would be wise to take Rubio over any player in the drat regardless of whether he comes over this season or not. And, I don’t watch college hoop because I know watching it won’t give me a good read on what college prospects are out there.
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True PG's take a little time, but it will depend on the new coaches system.
Both are great ballhandlers and passers. Lawson is maybe better, but Maynor has better size and possibly greater potential. Beno really is a pick & roll pg. And, since Natt got him to stop driving to the rim, and take the little jumpers, he’s really not playing PG anymore. No one on the Kings is setting up plays. They set up around the arc, and pass it around until someone takes a shot or trys to penetrate on their own.
So, Yes, I can see a coach starting either one over Beno. They may not be any more successful at the start then Beno. Unless we go back to a pick & roll type set. So, it’s going to depend on the new offensive system. And, since it will be new for everyone, anyone can win the job.
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Now you're speaking my language
Totally agree about this draft being filled with possible sleepers, even if the guys at the top scare the hell out of me. Particularly in this draft I think people are overlooking the seniors and overrating guys like Aminu and Clark and Damion James, who can’t shoot a lick, don’t have many skills, and aren’t even close to developing anything passable. Better for us that those projects go early.
Player by player, here goes:
Jerome Jordan – He’s not really the physical specimen that Deandre Jordan is: he’s really, really skinny and really, really weak. He runs the floor ok but he’s not a spectacular athlete and not much of a shotblocker. He’s reasonably skilled and has a pretty decent jump hook, only he lacks any and all strength necessary to establish position in the post so…… yeah. He can get stronger, but until he does he’s sort of a string bean without a real purpose.
DeJuan Blair: Just say no to 6’7" power forwards. His upside is Craig Smith, I don’t care how many 7’3" centers he slays.
Craig Brackins – Absolutely the sleeper of the draft, mainly because the team he plays for completely sucks and not many people can probably bear to watch. Brackins is 6’10", very quick and athletic, and incredibly skilled for a big both inside and out. He has a deadly post game including jump hooks with either hand, he can fade away, and hit jumpers in the lane. Or, if that’s not your style, he is an incredible ballhandler and can take bigs off the dribble, including pulling up from midrange. His long range jumper is still a work in progress, but he can hit it when he’s wide open. He’s more Lamar Odom than Channing Frye, or, as I like to compare him, a smaller, faster Jason Thompson.
Tyler Hansbrough – Mark Madsen, meet Tyler Hansbrough. Tyler, Mark. (Ok, Tyler is probably better than Madsen…. by a little bit)
Gani Lawal – Gives DeJuan Blair a run for his money in terms of strength, an inch bigger, and more athletic. This guy can rebound. Unfortunately, that’s basically his entire game. He’s the second coming of Reggie Evans.
Patrick Patterson – Yeah, you called it. Brandon Bass. Nothing to add, except that Kenny Thomas has given me a powerful aversion to any and all undersized power forwards. Pass.
Darren Collison – Sometimes you overlook the player you know. Collison has been overshadowed by so many players now, and yet he is what he is — an incredibly solid floor general, very quick (not blinding), and a terrific shooter. He’s so solid that he lulls you to sleep. I think he’d be a steal after pick 10 in this draft, let alone after pick 20. You just don’t find his combination of passing, defense, quickness and shooting very often. I would take him over Jrue Holiday 20 times out of 10 at this point.
Ty Lawson – And yet…. then there’s Ty Lawson. My problem with Lawson is that he’s somewhat similar to Collison, only he’s an inch shorter, he’s not the shooter, and he’s not the defender….. Lawson’s good at a lot of things, only I wonder if he’s good enough at them to succeed in the NBA.
Eric Maynor – How long has it been since this guy hit that shot against Duke in the tournament? I remember being impressed with him then, haven’t seen him since. VCU needs to get on TV more often.
Patrick Mills – Dude is fast… dude is short. His long range prospects depend entirely on his (currently shaky) jumper, because he really struggles taking it into the lane, so he’s going to live and die on the perimeter. I’d let someone else take that gamble.
A couple I’d add:
Sam Young – Not sure he gets enough credit for Pitt’s success. He’s got prototypical size and athleticism for an NBA wing, he can shoot (even if he has funny form), and can put the ball on the floor, but needs to work on his handle.
Terrence Williams – versatile super-athletic senior 2 guard who is a bit offensively challenged. Could succeed as a glue guy, but kind of a risk because of his disappearing acts on offense.
Taj Gibson – Another guy people are probably overlooking because he’s been around a million years. Very athletic, 6’9", skilled, decent rebounder and shotblocker. Don’t see any reason he couldn’t succeed in the NBA.
Dionte Christmas – can really shoot and really score, pretty good at putting the ball on the floor. Don’t know if he’s quite athletic enough to be a full-time SG, but could be a gunner off the bench a la McCants.
Honorable mention: Jeff Pendergraph, AJ Price, Danny Green, Jack McClinton
by nbrans on Mar 3, 2009 5:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Brackins...
In one of those old ironies of the draft I agree that the fact that Iowa State is as terrible as it is only helps his stock. Not saying that it’s an indictment of Brackins’ ability or lack thereof (JaVale McGee was good on a bad Nevada team last year, I was convinced he would bust in Washington, he hasn’t) but I think his situation has allowed Brackins a perpetual talent showcase that makes him immune to the sort of scrutiny guys like Aldrich or Thabeet are exposed to. Short of You Tube/College Game Night highlights I’ve seen the kid play once. And I sometimes think it’s not nearly as hard to look good on a bad team as it is to look great on a good team.
In his game, his elusiveness and concerns about an ability to translate his game at the pro level he reminds me of the annual parade of Euro bigs.
by rbiegler on Mar 3, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No way man
I’ve seen him play…. four or five times I think. For some reason they always show Iowa St. on YES.
I personally think he’s the real deal. Opposing teams know: all they have to do is stop Craig Brackins. And yet even with the defense keying on him he’s been able almost every game to score points and get rebounds. He obliterated Kansas’ front line (including Aldrich) for 40 points, and the toughest test I saw him face was Baylor, who has a pretty athletic front line — he had an off night and still managed to turn it into a dunk fest.
Whether or not playing for Iowa St. is going to hurt or help his stock…. we’ll see, and I could see him shooting up the draft boards. You just don’t see 6’10" guys with his combination of skill and athleticism.
I'm not saying...
I don’t like Brackins. I’m also not saying I would rather have Aldrich. I’m just saying I find him a slightly more difficult person to gauge. But I’m also in a living room in East Sacramento so may gauging abilities in general are a bit dubious anyway.
As always Section; muy bien. nbrans - question for you. Can any of these guys Flat Out Play?
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DeJuan Blair and Tyler Hansbrough
Channeling Jay Bilas: “You know, DeJuan Blair is an earth bound 6’7” power forward who doesn’t have great athleticism and that combination has never really worked at the NBA level, but the guy can just flat out play."
“Tyler Hansbrough may be 6’8” and not very athletic or strong or quick or skilled, but the guy hustles and can just flat out play."
At the risk of being mocked endlessly by my fellow StR'ers
I’d like somehow, someway to get Stephen Curry on my Sacramento Kings. There, I said it, now you guys have 10+ years or however short Curry’s NBA career is to make fun of what a terrible draft guru I am; which is in fact true, I am terrible at these reindeer games.
Any discussion of Sherron Collins out of Kansas as a late first-rounder?
I’ve seen enough to be intrigued, but definitely not enough yet to weigh in on his potential (or lack of).
Everybody's probably gonna hate this
Because he’s a skinny wing, but I think Budinger belongs in that category of guys who are being undervalued because they’re perceived as known commodities. He can score efficiently in a variety of ways, jump out of the gym, and he’s unselfish. He’s not going to carry an NBA franchise, but I think he’ll be a great value if he goes in the mid twenties.
But yeah, I get why he’s not exactly what the Kings need right now.
There are plenty of teams out there that could use Budinger
San Antonio is a team that could use him for instance.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I was thinking San Antonio too
But then I remembered that OKC has their pick.
The point still stands though, he’d be great for the Spurs because he’s ready to fill a specific role right now: offensive lightning in a bottle in a well-structured offense.
Good Point
I had forgotten they had the 09 pick of SA’s. (He could work for OKC too.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
My problem with Budinger
is that he can jump, but he’s really not very quick. He struggles to make things happen when he has the ball.
Yeah
You’re right, he’d be much more dangerous with a good first step and better ball-handling skills.
He won’t blow by NBA defenders, but he’s got a good jumper, can score with his back to the basket, and can score off the dribble (pull-up shots). And if he does get a step on someone his vertical makes him a dunk waiting to happen.
I think he’ll make a good two. What he lacks in quickness compared to other SGs, he’ll make up for with length and explosive leaping ability.
Funny you should mention that
In my initial (and much, much longer piece), I said that the early comparisons for Budinger were drawn to a young Brent Barry, and the current comparisons are that of an old Brent Barry.
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I like the comparison...
but I think an old Brent Barry is his ceiling. He’s an athletic guy, sure, but put a bigger guy on him and he disappears – that doesn’t bode well for his game translating to the NBA. He’s far too slow to be a 2, and at the 3 I don’t see him being anything but a spot up shooter.
To me, he’s Luke Walton with far less play-making ability. I’m willing to take side-bets that he’s a bust.
Re: Maynor
I go to VCU grad school and see Maynor play all the time in person. He’s good, definitely in crunch time. The guy has won so many close games, I lost count. And VCU doesn’t play many pushover teams. Good perimeter defender too, which the Kings have NONE of. Think Rod Strickland meets Cassell. He may be wiry, but he’s about 200 times tougher than Kevin Martin. Knows how to finish and be a leader.
I would be stoked if they picked him late. Something tells me he’s going to pick it up at the next level. He’s got the right work ethic and natural playmaking skills.
I'm intrigued by him for sure after a game I watched a week or so ago.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Mar 3, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Johnny Flynn
As a Syracuse grad, I’ve got to point out no one’s mentioned PG Johnny Flynn here. IF he comes out, he should go somewhere around our 24th pick. He’s a bit on the small side, but is a great scorer and distributor, in addition to being a top-notch floor leader. If we didn’t get a PG with our first pick I wouldn’t hesitate on him with our second….
by Out of Service Pervis on Mar 3, 2009 7:11 PM PST reply actions
All those look great but...
please just say no to Psycho-T
Please do not say Mullins
if he comes out this year – he is definately the Joe Klien of the draft
a basketball statue in every respect, dude accomplishes Nothing that doesn’t land in his lap.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
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I'm thinking more Jeff Foster than Joe Klein
Not worthless, but a long ways to go before he’s a contributor.
Nice read Section
and very welcome comments Nbrans. I also like the Seth Davis article that has also been discussed.
I am the typical NBA draft pick follower: I don’t watch many college games during the season, watch as much NCAA tourney as is convenient until the sweet 16 and then Final Four weekend and then I watch everything. I watch a bunch of ESPNews. I have a very limited exposure to the majority of these guys and rely on pundits for my information. I am biased by every good word and every harmful comparison. Yet I love to read and dream of all of that potential. Every year I watch Draft Day, and every year I scratch my head with GP’s picks and murmur – who’s that again (along with the draft day announcers)?
Why am i adding to this post, as I am admittedly both ignorant and naive? Because I want to see this Kings team get better and whoever is the best player available is who this Kings team needs. Too much talent at ANY position is not a concern. ALL picks are gambles. Some more than others, some less. I know enough to know I don’t know.
I am consistently amazed that the high draft picks arrive at various teams and I take one look at the guy and wonder, WTF? Shawn Bradley was picked #1 some years ago – who didn’t take one long look at that guy and say – this guy is slow and unccordinated with mediocre reflexes? Shelden Williams – bad hands, stands on his toes – why is this a surprise? Alex Smith (49ers) has small hands – was he wearing extra large gloves during the combine? This stuff must be harder to figure out than it looks, but some things are self evident.
So, whoever is there, the best guy – at 1,2,3,4 or 18 or 31 – that is who I want. If Mark Madsen is the best guy – I want him (or if you are clever enough to trade him for something else later if you really don’t want him). Petrie & Co. seem to know. I trust them most of all.
Any word on the Euros? (other than Rubio)
In this economy, are the Euros out? Funny, no Chinese nationals being showcased this year.
What about James Johnson?
Section, you listed him as a wing Sac shouldn’t consider but I put him towards the top of the list (for a big) along with Maynor- as late picks. JJ’s 6’9 (?)/ 245 and his averages in order of relevence are 1.5 blocks, 1.5 steals, 8 reb, 15 pts. (54%/70%FT). I read an Sports Illustrated article about him, and his whole family, being championship, black belt kick boxers. Not that it matters, but I think it may give him a competitive confidence that shows when he plays. Maynor also seems to have a certain something that makes me think he may be a player.
Of course it all depends on who Sac drafts with their 1st pick.
For bigs it’s Griffin, Thabeet (because of undeniable potential/need), then a drop off. I have trouble getting excited about Monroe. A little more intrigued by Hill, Patterson, Taj Gibson. Need to see Brackins.
For PGs it’s Rubio, Holiday, and then a drop off. Maynor, Calathes, Jennings, Collison. I can see Petrie picking Curry if he’s available low. Teague seems like another Douby to me.
So, I want…..hmmm? Not considering the draft day trades to get young, promising pros….Thabeet @ 3, Maynor w/Houstons pick, James Johnson in the 2nd round.
I think that Johnson
will have to become adequate at small forward in the NBA game. On the other hand, Marion played the 4 and we’re messing around with Donté Greene there right now, so who knows?
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By the way, Section
Thanks for the musings, great post.
Anyone else like Calathes?
Also, alot of talk about Sac still wanting to go after Nate Robinson.
I'd prefer Nate Robinson
I see a lot of Cisco in Calathes, I think he could be a good player but I think hes a mid to late first round guy next year. Now, if he grew to 6’10 like his brother Pat…
I like him
He is super tall and I like the way he distributes. If Rubio doesn’t come out I could see us drafting the best big at the 1-4 spots and taking Calathes with Houston’s pick.
Tremendous, tremendous stuff 214
I’ll admit I haven’t seen Iowa State at all. (Yet I’ve seen Georgetown like seven times, and actually most of the Big East and Pac-10 multiple times.) I need to clue in.
As busybe alludes to, there’s something to watch w/r/t the Kings’ free agent targets. Petrie and Levien obviously lust for Nate Robinson, if they were willing to take Jared F. Jeffries back. He’s an RFA. If the Kings go big or wing with this picks … maybe we should then expect a push for Nate.
Or, in other words: if Griffin comes to Sac with #1, perhaps the team doesn’t focus on PG at 24ish or 31. Best Player Available.
Patrick Patterson
my roommate is a huge Kentucky fan, and as such i have seen lot of his games.
I would love to have Patrick Patterson. from what i’ve seen, he is a great post player, one of the back-to-the-basket mold. great rebounder. good on defense, and good reactive shot blocker. very good passing instincts. good athleticism. he averages about 20ppg, and it rarely seems like Kentucky’s coach (gillespie) calls anything specific for him.
this kid runs the floor both on the break and in transition defense. and practically every time i see him on offense, he is battling (and i mean battling) for position in the post. he also does well clearing out his man when his guards drive to the basket.
oh, and he has a few years experience playing on a kings-like team…by that i mean in the past couple seasons he has played with a 2-guard, Jodie Meeks, that can really light it up from the outside, and is good on the drive (a la Kevin Martin), and also has played without any great talent at the PG position.
Hmmm -
Not one “get well, section” from any of you jerks. I was going to autograph my SpongeBob themometer for one lucky threader, but now you can forget about it. :)
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i was worried it wasn't an oral thermometer
by betweentheeyes on Mar 4, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
and get well soon.
you can still blog with soggy hankies and those pj’s with the feet, right?
by betweentheeyes on Mar 4, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions

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