Measuring Up

by section214 on Mar 30, 2009 10:24 PM PDT in NBA Draft Comment 61 comments

Hey, he's wearing socks! Cheat!!!

They got little baby legs
And they stand so low
You got to pick 'em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time
Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no small People
Don't want no small People
'Round here

- Short People, Randy Newman, 1977

When you get old and crabby like me (and you will get old and crabby like me), it does not take much to send you off on a tangent. Whether it’s those damn neighbor kids on my front lawn, Taco Bell shorting me a value menu taco (You’re dead to me, Taco Bell), or the fact that the TV commercials play 50% louder than the show that I’m watching (and heaven help everyone if it is a Taco Bell ad), I am an exposed nerve just waiting to be touched. Such is the life of a Sacramento Kings fan, 2009.

I’ve seen a lot of comments lately regarding Blake Griffin’s true height, and how that should impact how the Kings pick. If he is indeed 6’10” we should grab him and not look back. 6’9”? Less appealing – maybe we should give that Rubio kid a look. 6’8”? We should trade down (after all, we’ll be the only ones that will read the measurement data, so it would have no impact on the value of the pick, right?).

This is not to say that I am sold on Griffin over Rubio at this point. It is only to say that I’m not hung up on this whole height thing. I am much more concerned with Griffin’s free throw percentage than his height. And as I have mentioned before, I would like to see Griffin shoot one time with his left hand before the Carlos Boozer comparisons continue. Of course, Griffin’s shortcomings are no more glaring than the dearth of foreign talent that has graced the lottery over the past few years (I just posted in a thread that the last 10 foreign players to go in the lottery were Gallinari, Bargnani, Sene, Sefolosha, Vazquez, Korolev, Biedrins, Milicic and Pietrus – Mamma Mia!).

While pre-draft measurement data is rather incomplete (not everyone gets invited to the big yardstick), there are some interesting names that crop up below 6’10”, 6’9” and 6’8” (these measurements are without shoes, because it makes this all the sillier). Like, who? Like –

Below 6’10” – Dwight Howard, Chris Webber, Alonzo Mourning, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess. Other surprises include DeAndre Jordan, Nené and Brian Skinner.

Below 6’9” – Al Horford, Theo Ratliff, Emeka Okafor, Al Jefferson…alright, hold on a minute. Those guys are all playing center for their NBA teams. Not power forward. Center! Brandan Wright, Drew Gooden, Shawn Kemp, Brian Grant, Amare Stoudemire, Elton Brand, David West. I guess we should stop lusting after Horford or even Brandan Wright – they’re just too freakin’ short.

Below 6’8” (which makes them too short for some rides at Six Flags, I think) – Kevin Love, David Lee, Carlos Boozer, Antawn Jamison, Josh Smith, Udonis Haslem. No wonder their shorts look so big on these guys – they’re shrimps!

Now I’m not so daft as to think that height doesn’t matter. We haven’t used that punch bowl on the top kitchen shelf since we moved in for a reason. But height is not the absolute measure of an NBA prospect. It is a contributing factor, just like wingspan or a player’s ability to hit his head on the backboard.

I could go on, but my daughter is in the other room texting her boyfriend, and the clicking of her telephone keyboard is really pissing me off. I’m putting a stop to this right now. No good kids.

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Must Destroy Phone!

Hope

by Ultrakingsfan on Mar 30, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If this were were the annual National Bloggers Association draft...

I’d take Ziller over Section214. There are too many concerns surrounding Section’s height, and attitude.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Mar 30, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

LOL CAB

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think section is telling Taco Bell to get off his lawn.

There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru

by moproblemz on Mar 30, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

If I didn't have a book for a signature....

…I would make that my new sig.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally

I just use the height that is recorded at the pre-draft measurements and add an inch for shoes. Almost all the reported heights are in shoes anyway.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Mar 30, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if Greg Oden gets an inch in his listed height

Cuz he has to have shoes that that equal up the difference in length of both his legs.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2009 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

An awesome point I think

They guy is a dominator around the rim – thats unlikely to change when he turns a ripe old 21.
Though I share the concern about Free Throws
(I HATE missed free throws! They’re freeee! This is what you do for a living! I can hit 70% on a good day – and I haven’t really practiced in years! I became a 200 bowler after 40 with just studying some technique and working at it – and I hadn’t really bowled since the Army – when freakin’ Reagan was President!)
But I digress.
He’s the number 1, no doubt in my mind. You pick him and keep him or you pick him and get serious bank in a trade return – but you Pick him.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 30, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep. If the blazers picked Jordan instead of Bowie....

And traded him for whoever.. Shit!

by avishai on Mar 31, 2009 12:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

How thick were the socks?

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Mar 31, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

and don't forget illsap!

by sdfd on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with this completely

but is Howard really under 6’10?
I thought he was 6’11"?

I am definitely with you on this. I don’t think an inch is going to make any sort of difference to a player like Blake Griffin

by sdfd on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What about DeJuan Blair?

He is 6’7" but is just as good if not a better rebounder than Blake Griffin. At least in college. His 2 inch difference could be monumental in the NBA. Or will it be? Of course, Blair doesn’t seem to have the athleticism that Griffin does.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

no - he doesn't

Think Smith on Minnie. A good role player for the right team.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blair has impressive wingspan

which makes up for head measured height. The guy can board. He will be a tough, good pro. He has Jazz or Piston written all over him (I can’t read the tattoos, I think that is what they say).

by betweentheeyes on Apr 1, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Section

Remember, destroying the phone is expensive. And she’ll just bug you until you get her another one.\

One, I love the satire. There’s a difference between quality and quantity, and you do your best to exhibit all of that.

Beyond that, however, is the issue of Griffin’s height. It’s not his height that bothers me. It wouldn’t bother me if he was 6’4 (he’s not—somewhere between 6’7 1/2 and 6’8 1/2 would be my guess without shoes), and it wouldn’t bother me if he was mentioned as the first pick or the tenth pick. He’s a talented player. Anyone who argues otherwise isn’t just stupid; they’re practically blind, deaf, dumb and whatever ailments the American Disabilities Act covers.

The problems I see with Griffin are the following: His lack of a left hand, his lack of a real go to post move, his lack of shot blocking instincts, I didn’t pay great attention to this detail, but I wonder how well he rebounds out of his "area’, and, his defense is not there at all. He, is, in short, definitely not Tim Duncan. In otherwords, being the first overall pick doesn’t mean something to me if the Kings don’t get a quality player that is a core piece, and at worse the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team. If that piece is Griffin; okay great. If that piece is Rubio, or somebody else, okay great. What I do know, at this junction, is that Griffin is not going to be a franchise player, and given the varying problems the Kings have the board, it’s possibly likely he doesn’t solve any of them.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2009 4:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The Kings have across the board^

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2009 4:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Btw

I wish you had the buzz up option on your posts. I would have totally buzzed this up.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2009 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's got the Buzz now.

Buzz it!

by Ziller on Mar 31, 2009 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank You

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 1, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Completely agree

Griffin is talented, and will be in the NBA for many years. No doubt. I just question whether or not he’s a true franchise player.

Height is overrated. If I were a college or NBA player they’d list me at 6’4" or 6’5", when I’m actually 6’2" or (maybe) 6’3". They do it with just about every player. Always have, always will.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Mar 31, 2009 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

Franchise players are not easy to come by, and looking over this years draft there are ZERO. Griffin at least has the most potential to be something special and an immediate impact for a team that is in desperate need of talent…

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by Sac King on Mar 31, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brilliantly stated last paragraph

And I share almost all of those concerns with you. In the best world, Griffin could be a Karl Malone type, but the question then begs would Malone have been Malone without John Stockton.

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by section214 on Mar 31, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Karl Malone but...

Griffin can bash on your head.

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by Sac King on Mar 31, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Karl vs. Blake

Here are the college stats. (Karl was a junior, Blake is a Sophomore):

Malone – 28.9 minutes, 2.3 assists, 9.0 rebounds, 16.5 points, 54% FG
Griffin – 33.3 minutes, 2.3 assists, 14.4 rebounds, 22.7 points, 65.4% FG

Just stats but the difference is big.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Apr 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Of course though I’m pretty sure he’s a stud – you never know for sure if someone will reach Star status.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Apr 1, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree on some points...

“His lack of a left hand, his lack of a real go to post move, his lack of shot blocking instincts, I didn’t pay great attention to this detail, but I wonder how well he rebounds out of his "area’, and, his defense is not there at all.”

First, he’s fine in the post. He makes over 65% of the shots he takes, which tells me he is scoring efficiently near the basket. I don’t know what more you want here. No he doesn’t have a sky hook, but they guy is great down low.

He has several post moves going both directions. No left hand is not as big a deal if you can score going both directions (if you can hit a fall away going one direction and a jump hook the other, the defender has to play honest).

He is the leading rebounder in the country. My guess (although I have no hard data to back me up) is he can rebound out of the area. Watching him, he has a nose for boards.

I agree on the defense, but college games are called tight and he cannot afford to pick up cheap fouls, so he seems to give ground on a lot of plays. I think he has the athleticism to be a good defender, but he certainly hasn’t focused on it at the college level.

Bottom line: He has a nose for the ball. He scores well inside and after contact. He’s got great hands (that one catch on the baseline in the UNC game was incredible). He has a nice finesse game around the hoop and isn’t just a bull (which is where you get the Boozer comparisons). He may not be a franchise player, but he looks like an all-star and a conerstone for whichever club is lucky enough to draft first.

by R-Man on Mar 31, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Griffin Doesn't Solve any of the Kings Problems?

How about rebounding-14.4 a game. The Kings get out-rebounded almost every game. 3.9 offensive rebounds, badly needed on this roster. And in general, who backs up JT and Hawes… Calvin Booth! We need Griffin more than anyone in the draft. Free agency is where we get the rest of our needs- Point guard… I do not want to see another Sean Singletary come in and get abused. We need an established point guard.

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by Sac King on Mar 31, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes on rebounds & No on Griffin more than anyone

There is no one on the Kings including Martin that should feel that his roster spot is secure. JT has already been mentioned in trade talks. I agree that Griffin will bring scoring and rebounding to the Kings, and will make a great trio with JT & Spencer. But, to say that Griffin is needed more than a starting PG like Rubio is really controversial.

Heres my take. Griffin is by far the best big in this draft, disregarding potential, just on immediate impact alone. There are so many potentially good PG’s available in this years and possible next yrs draft. Therefore, to improve the Kings the most, you take the hands down best Big and let GP find the best PG available later in the draft. And, if that PG isn’t our PG of the future than you look to next years draft.

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by HighTops on Mar 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we please stop talking about a guys height with or without shoes

or am I the only sane mother effer here who realizes that the height that really matters is a player height in shoes, since they’ll be wearing them when they play? Blake Griffin’s height isn’t important when he’s ordering a couple Double Decker tacos, it is important when he’s going for rebounds.

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by vfettke on Mar 31, 2009 7:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You order double decker tacos

in your bare feet? That’s weird.

by PhutureKings on Mar 31, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its about the hot sauce on the toes

I knew a girl from LA -

well nevermind, its the usual sticky story.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Granted, right now no

Blake Griffin is not a franchise player but I do see the comparisons to Amare and Boozer, hell Roy Williams even compared him to LeBron James (a little irrational for now) but in any case, give this guy a couple years in the league and I guarantee he’ll be the cornerstone to any franchise. He will make multiple all-star teams and put up the same numbers as the elite PF/C in the game. I agree the height issue here really isn’t all that important with Griffin, what matters is his ability to score and his rebounding skills. I love Shock and Hawes and I think adding Griffin would give the Kings one of the best frontcourts in the league moving forward. With that being said, I am also not jumping off the Rubio bandwagon either because I feel like the greatest need for this team right now is a point guard but if Griffin is there with our pick, I can’t see Petrie passing up on him and trying to go after a PG with the Rocket’s pick or even trading up for a better one.

by MTBalla on Mar 31, 2009 7:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Why do Kings fans have concern about a players height?

cough-woof-cough

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by kangsfan on Mar 31, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

K9's(woof's) problem isn't his height

It’s his depth.

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by section214 on Mar 31, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oooh...

Nicely stated.

by PhutureKings on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW

This kind of undermines the point of the post (which I also agree with), but after watching the post-OU-UNC-game handshake I can say confidently that if BG is 6’8", Hansbrough is 6’6", and Sam Young is 6’4", etc., etc.

by furious.d on Mar 31, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The real difference between Rubio and Griffin

Is not about height or free throw percentage, its about the ability for the player to come in and make this team instantly better. Rubio is 18 years old, although skilled, is still at least two years away from being a legit point guard. Griffin on the other hand is a freak athlete who has the strength and the skills to compete in the NBA. Griffin is the superstar, Rubio is the project. Whether or not Griffin is 6’10 or 6’9 he is the most talented player in the upcoming draft, hands down, THE KINGS SHOULD NOT PASS ON THIS GUY!!!

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by Sac King on Mar 31, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Completely disagree

Griffin has two years of NCAA experience.
Rubio has been playing in professional Spanish leagues for 2 or 3 years, and held his own in the Olympics.

Both have experience against some legit competition. But Rubio has more experience.

If the OU-UNC game showed us anything, it is that Griffin is OU’s only weapon. When you are the only weapon on a team, your numbers will be inflated.

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by Exhibit G on Mar 31, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree (w/ ExG) to Disagree (w/ Sac King)

Why is Rubio 2 years away? I don’t get it/buy it/believe it. Rubio’s court vision is ridiculous…RIDICULOUS. He has been playing since he was 4 years old, his dad’s a coach, and all the elite Euro-League guys consider him to be a “force” to be recognized…and he’s 18 years old.

I think Rubio is one of, in not the most, ready-to-contribute guys in the draft.

Rubio running the point next season (along with further off-season development of Shock & Hawes, and Greene) instantly gives us at least 10-15 more wins next season.

Still, with the first pick, you have to take Griffin. It’s a non-arguable issue. After that, Rubio. After Rubio…the draft dissolves into chaos, which I why I hope like there’s no tomorrow that we get a top-2 pick in this draft. I mean, sure, Harden seems to be legit (but what would we do with him?), and Thabeet & Hill would be welcome additions (but not as impactful as Griffin/Rubio), but the Kings’ state of affairs is far past getting another role-player or project.

by PhutureKings on Mar 31, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I respectfully disagree... The key words in your argument is he is "18 years old"

Is not physically able to come into the league and make an immediate impact. The Euro League is no joke, but his size and age needs to be taken into serious consideration. Not many 18 year olds from overseas have been able to successfully come into league and be a force. Point guard in the NBA is the toughest position in the league to become comfortable in. Derrick Rose is struggling this year and Rose is better than Rubio and is more physically developed than Rubio. Rubio’s numbers are not spectactular overseas either, which is a cause for concern in my opinion. No doubt is the kid talented, but is he NBA ready to physically be able to compete against guys by the likes of Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Felton, Steve Nash, Jose Calderon? I think not. But give him 2 years of NBA experience, and he could very well be a top 5 point guard in this league.

If the Kings want to win right away they need to get some talent that is capable of coming in and contributing right away. Why go after a player that is considered a “project” by most NBA scouts? We need an immediate impact player in order to win, this years and next years draft will not provide that- Free Agency will.

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by Sac King on Mar 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell me again - if he's ready, why doesn't Rubio start for his team?

(Don’t answer! I shouldn’t have gone there!)

But to save our team, an immediate impact guy would do the most.
Wouldn’t hurt the perspectives of free agents looking for a home either.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm the first to admit...

…I don’t know a ton about the Euro-leagues. And I have no idea who the starter is for Rubio’s team. But aren’t Euro-leagues notorious for not playing younger players as much, and being hesitant to “showcase” NBA prospects? Could be similar to the situation with Brandon Jennings.

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by Exhibit G on Apr 1, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coaches everywhere want to win

want to keep thier jobs. I just can’t help believing that there must be significant holes in his current game that make that couch believe that someone else gives them the better chance of winning.
That small sample we were exposed to where he played great for a game or two – is it the full story?
I do know we don’t have the sample size like BGs breaking ofthe Tim Duncan record for games with 20/15. Unanamous All-American.
I DO get the desire to have a truly remarkable PG, it makes the whole game easier.
(of course, so does a nearly automatic 20/15 guy)

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Apr 1, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Just amazing the way we argue in circles.

No doubt is the kid talented, but is he NBA ready to physically be able to compete against guys by the likes of Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Felton, Steve Nash, Jose Calderon?

Paul and Williams are the best PGs on that list. They were also on Team USA for the Olympics. Guess who Rubio, as PG for Spain, went head to head with for the Gold medal? Anyone? Anyone?

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by Exhibit G on Apr 1, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exhibit G

Lets get back to the original argument. Do you believe Rubio can come into the league and make an immediate impact?

And to answer your question on Euro Leagues- These teams are run just like an NBA franchise, they play the best talent that are able to get them wins. Rubio has not yet developed physically where he can dominate on a nightly basis. Jennings is not playing much because they have a more effecient point guard running the team. The Euro League is such a different game, its not always about statistics, but more about effeciency, as the plus minus system is huge over there.

Just one last point. To transfer from overseas to the NBA is a much tougher transition than from college to the NBA. The style of play is SO much different that it takes guys longer to get acclimated with the NBA system. Barganani is a perfect example. Rubio will need the same amount of time to get adjusted.

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by Sac King on Apr 2, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's not true

They don’t always do that. European clubs play their players differently than NBA teams do.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Surprised no one has mentioned

wingspan? that’s definitely been a key for “undersized” guys like Brand who still make it big.

by LPKingsFan on Mar 31, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

right, anyone know what BG's wingspan is?

and if we add Blake and Booby Gibson to Buckets Greene, is there any limit to the BeeGees marketing possibilities?

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by Holmdel on Mar 31, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Other than the fact that the BeeGees were terrible?

no, no limit other than that

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by vfettke on Mar 31, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

as long as there's no Ben Gordon

But seriously, Griffin’s wingspan measurements in the pre-draft camps will go a long way in determining my final opinion on the merits of taking him #1—should the Kings even have the #1.

by LPKingsFan on Mar 31, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excuse me, Sir.

I’ll have you know the Bee-Gees were not terrible. You can’t tell me Night Fever doesn’t make you want to shake your ass…besides, most Bee-Gees songs are about mackin’ on chicks (perhaps you don’t recognize the message, given the subtle nature in which they are delivered…unlike some other artists, such as…oh, let’s say…Too Short).

I can’t believe I’m standing on a soap box for the Bee-Gees, but damn you, give the Brothers Gibb their due!

“You can tell by the way I use my walk, I’m a woman’s man…no time to talk.”

(In Stewart Gilligan Griffin voice): Yeah, that’s right…

by PhutureKings on Mar 31, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't care what anybody says,

I don’t care how tall he is barefoot because I’m pretty sure he’s going to play bball wearing shoes, Blake Griffin is going to be a superstar in the NBA and if we get the chance to draft him he has the skill and desire to take the King’s to the top of the mountain.

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by Bluejohn on Mar 31, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

AGREED

One area that hasn’t been taken into consideration, is what will the future coach of the Kings want in a PG. No matter what kind of offense we have next year, Griffin will fit into it, but can we say the same for a pass first or ball control PG. Maybe the new coach would prefer a shoot first PG. As, alway what we want really doesn’t matter.

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by HighTops on Mar 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Truth

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone should give this info to Shelden Williams

18.8 pts. 10.7 rebounds his senior year in college.

6’-7.5" w/o shoes and 7’-4.25" wingspan for you wingspan nuts.

NBA career – 4.6 pts 4.1 rebounds.

If he had been 6’10" he might’ve been something.

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by Kfan in Korea on Mar 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs