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Things Grant Napear Actually Said

During the second quarter, Grant Napear said this following a well-executed Pacers fast break:

The Pacers have 10 more field goal attempts than Sacramento because of the pace they play at.

No. This is not how basketball works.

Two teams will typically have the same number of possessions in a game, with minor discrepancies for end-of-quarter possessions. This is due to the basic rules of basketball. On the playground, it's known as "loser outs." When a team scores, the other team gets the ball. Possessions are traded. Team A (Sacramento) gets a possession. Successful or not, Team B (Indiana) gets the next possession. You do not get a possession surplus by playing a faster style. If you push the ball, you will get more possessions ... and so will your opponent.

You can, of course, get a field goal attempt surplus, as Indiana did in the first half. But field goal attempts are but one result of a possession. Possessions can end with a turnover, a made FG, a defensive rebound or a made FT. So one way in which you can get more field goal attempts than your counterpart is to force turnovers -- in this instance, your opponent does not get a FGA. Or, you can get offensive rebound: in this case, you have the opportunity to get multiple FGAs in a single possession. Finally, if the other team draws fouls and gets to the line, they will have fewer FGAs in the box score, but (as always) a roughly equal number of possessions.

Indiana did not get a FGA surplus because it pushed the pace. Indiana gained a FGA surplus because Sacramento turned the ball over repeatedly, because the Pacers earned several offensive rebounds and because Kevin Martin drew fouls. Indiana's pace surely helped the Pacers score more efficiently -- or, to score more points per possession on average -- because Sacramento's transition defense is simply awful. But running will not allow you to take more FGAs than your opponent. Basketball does not work that way, and I would imagine someone who has worked in the game almost 20 years could have figured that out at some point.

(I only make an example of this because basketball miseducation worries me. Napear has a huge audience 82 times a year.)

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uh - ok

but I did know they don’t just ‘get xtra balls’. thanks I guess

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 4, 2009 7:33 AM PST reply actions  

was I snippy? Yep - oh well sorry

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 4, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I love it, TZ. It is terrfying that he is allowed to speak anywhere near a microphone at any time.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Mar 4, 2009 7:41 AM PST reply actions  

TZ

You do realize this is Peaches you’re talking about? Lol I should call him up on his show today and see what he thinks.

by Aykis16 on Mar 4, 2009 7:50 AM PST reply actions  

Scary, TZ

I shudder to think that people who don’t know the rules of NBA basketball are trying to learn them by watching the Kings play.

I’m going to take this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to defend Peaches. I think it’s likely that he was implying that the Pacers’ quick pace flustered the Kings and led to increased offensive efficiency (ie. fewer turnovers, more uncontested shots instead of FTA, and more offensive rebounds) and more FGA. Less likely that he thinks that each team gets the ball for an equal amount of time, and that the amount of FGA’s a team can put up is determined by how fast they can take a shot in any given possession.

by furious.d on Mar 4, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

He also said in this econonomy multi positioned players are key,

he was even irritated that Jerry didnt agree until Reynolds enlightened him to the lack of 8 man rosters in the NBA.

by passionforPERPS on Mar 4, 2009 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

yeah

that one confused me

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by Dub_TC on Mar 4, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I love how Jerry responded to Grant

As if he was that one family member that’s just a little bit slow.

by avishai on Mar 4, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Peaches

is a tool!

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by Dub_TC on Mar 4, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

funny!

Haha, I was thinking all the same things when he said that stuff about more possesssions due to a faster pace, and about being a multi-position player because of the economy. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one scratching my head. : )

put me in, Coach

by LaBradford on Mar 4, 2009 8:18 AM PST reply actions  

LOL

I heard that as well last night, and busted out a Scooby Doo “HUH??”

HELP ME TOM CRUISE!

by otis29 on Mar 4, 2009 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

I knew that TJ Ford was fast -

But I didn’t know that he was that fast.

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by section214 on Mar 4, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions  

This title

Would be a great name for a book. I think it should be a coffee table book, so I can place it next to my copy of “Everybody Poops”.

HELP ME TOM CRUISE!

by otis29 on Mar 4, 2009 8:35 AM PST reply actions  

If you dont like THAT...

…Bobby Jackson is on FIRE!!!!

by DustyG on Mar 4, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

It's also why

When you listen to KHTK, they’re so dumb. Napear couldn’t handle a smart audience.

(I only make an example of this because basketball miseducation worries me. Napear has a huge audience 82 times a year.)

This is why I thought Kings fans were so dumb. I just realized it was KHTK after spending time here.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

I will admit

Grant and Mike did a pretty solid interview with John Moag the other night. It doesn’t appear the interview is up at the KHTK site yet, but when it is, I’ll throw it into a fanshot.

HELP ME TOM CRUISE!

by otis29 on Mar 4, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

That might also depend on your point of view too Otis

After all, if you’re pro arena then you’re more likely to agree with Moag.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually

I got the impression he was being pretty forthright about the challenges that lay ahead in the process, and where he expects the process to be in one year’s time if things are going well.

HELP ME TOM CRUISE!

by otis29 on Mar 4, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't hear it

But knowing your skepticism I have no reason to doubt you.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Now it's my turn to say...

He actually said that? Scary.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 4, 2009 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Hilariously sad

Not only did I hear him say that, but he didn’t learn from his mistake. Just before halftime, with about thirty five seconds to go he said the Pacer’s might have a three for one opportunity because of their pace. Peaches strikes again.

Another night earlier this season both Renolds and Peaches agreed that the sun rises in the west!

The doctor said I wouldn't get so many nosebleeds if I just kept my finger outta there.
-Ralph

by kangsfan on Mar 4, 2009 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

Too bad the Kings were trailing by double digits most of the game

We would have heard all about the three-second defensive technical foul the Kings received in the first half THAT COULD LIKELY HAVE COST THEM THE GAME.

HELP ME TOM CRUISE!

by otis29 on Mar 4, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

That's true

especially since Grant will never get to blame a close loss on a Brad Miller technical ever again

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You know what kills me?

Is all the talk about Donte playing PF, and he plays 7 mins, like the last game. That’s what really killed me more than anything else. (I also haven’t been able to see the game yet either.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew?

If the Kings play at the speed of light, does that mean they get infinite possessions? Only Peaches knows…

by Carl on Mar 4, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Carl you're too much mayne

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The speed of light is finite

How would that yield infinite possessions? Would peaches know that though?

What I would want to know is his take on the wave particle duality that playing at that speed wold entail. Not to mention the relativistic effects on the game clock. The time dilation would slow down scoring lower than one would think because the game is a finite length.

All in all a very good question. We’ll have to get his take on the rate of possessions in terms of velocity.

by propane on Mar 4, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You do realize....

…That Carl’s point was that Peaches does not necessarily get that 2 + 2 = 4 right?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

I was just exploring the possibilities of light speed basketball, and what it would entail.

by propane on Mar 4, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Under the Peaches rules of basketball physics, if one team plays infinitely fast, they could outscore the other team infinity to 100. All we need to do is sign the entire Jamaican Olympic sprinting team, and we would be unbeatable.

by Carl on Mar 4, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Now you're talking

But what if we played infinitely slow… Would that lead to 2-0 scores? Or does peaches basketball physics only apply as the pace goes to ∞?

by propane on Mar 4, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps there's a singularity that follows the kings

and comes to rest each game in the opponents basket – therebye drawing balls into it at a greatly increased rate?

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth - and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 4, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that just a fancy way of saying Peaches is a tool??

"Let's stop arguing and get together and agree on who really is the problem: PEACHES" - HighTops

by eduardo_m7 on Mar 4, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Aha!

So it’s the LHC’s fault the Kings are having issues with giving up more points than they scored.

by propane on Mar 4, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Because remember that the fundamental law of the Peaches Laws of Basketball Physics and Red Hair (PLoBPaR), is that the pace of one team bears no relationship at all to the Field Goal Attempts of the other team. So if we took one shot in a game, we would lose 100 – 2. If we took infinite shots, we would win Infinity to 100.

by Carl on Mar 4, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

PloBPar:

Knowing is half the battle!

by propane on Mar 5, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Listen...

If you have ever listened to any other broadcasts, say Houston for example, be thankful you get Grant.

by monkeyklawz on Mar 4, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

I hear that a lot

“He sucks less” isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement.

HELP ME TOM CRUISE!

by otis29 on Mar 4, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I know but...

It amazes me the suckitude of most other announcers. Case in point “wheels” for the Blazers is beyond awful. I am just saying, be glad you get “peaches” and not someone else. Besides, Peaches does have the entertainment factor going for him.

by monkeyklawz on Mar 4, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Wheels...

Is that one of the Mike’s? The older one is usually bombed, I think. He drives me nuts.

by avishai on Mar 4, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Rice is awful

I find it hard to believe Wheels sucks though.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

I always really liked him when he was here. Great voice.

by Kusian on Mar 4, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than Koz in my opinion

He doesn’t suck at the radio play by play either.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 4, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite is

when calling a fast break and he just says the name of the ball carrier over and over. Its the sign for me to durn down the volume or listen to the Yugoslavian broadcast!

You try you fly; you don't you wont. . .

by raufisonfire on Mar 4, 2009 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

The title of this thread...

…sounds like something off of the old $25,000 Pyramid:

“Bobby Jackson IS ON FIRE!”
“If you don’t like THAT, you don’t like NBA basketball!!!”
“It’s 4:30 – let’s get to the update and Jason Ross…”
“The Kings (unfortunately) lose again tonight. The final score from Arco Arena…”

Ummmm…Things Grant Napear Actually Said! :)

I also agree that for as much as we lambaste Napear for the things that roll off his tongue (I’m old school – give Gary Gerould me the dearly departed Bill King ANY day for a radio broadcast), I’ve heard and seen broadcasts for other NBA teams. MAN…talk about not looking a gift horse in the mouth. Grant and Jerry are better than most. We are lucky even though it doesn’t seem like it a lot of the time.

"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"

by Derwood13 on Mar 5, 2009 9:12 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

We've said it before...

Grant Napear th basketball announcer is actually ok. Peaches the radio jerk overshadows the other personality.

by Carl on Mar 5, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what makes Gary Gerould so wonderful I think

We see him in his realm, and nothing more. We see Grant in many ways, and it’s just not that interesting. (I don’t think it would be hard to guess he’s a jerk though.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Observation

Grant + Hoops = Pretty Good
Grant + Radio Show = Below Average
Grant + Raiders Football = Beyond SUCK!

Plus, For Old Schoolers>>>>
Grant + Channel 31 Sports Anchor = Satan’s Flatulence was better.

by monkeyklawz on Mar 5, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't remember his sports anchor days

But I know he did it at some point.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

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