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The Case For Mike Budenholzer

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Given Woj's Yahoo! report and common sense, enthusiasm about Eddie Jordan as the next Kings coach makes complete sense. I probably don't need to remind you how enthusiastic I was in December about the E.J. prospects. Jordan makes sense from a logitistical standpoint, would indicate Petrie's back in charge, and makes the team better and more exciting. Wins all around.

But I must say the overwhelming enthusiasm for him is a bit surprising. He won 40% of the votes in the first straw poll! He won more votes than Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson and Tom Thibodeau combined! Maybe we're all sons (and daughters) of Carril, but really ... I'm surprised. Not disappointed, but surprised.

I am disappointed so little credit was given to my vote, Mike Budenholzer. Four votes. Four. Half as many as John Freaking Whisenant, the Maloof buddy choice. (No offense, Whiz. But ... you know.) Budenholzer is Gregg Popovich's top assistant, his right-hand man. And the general manager of the Sacramento Monarchs has twice as many endorsements as him. WHAT!

I realize, though, that I have done a piss-poor job making a case for my candidate. (Yes, I voted for Bud over E.J.) I linked a mess of Bud content in a comment a few weeks ago, but I didn't put it together in any sort of compelling fashion.

If you take away nothing else from this endorsement, let it be Gregg Popovich's own endorsement. Budenholzer has been on Pop's bench for 13 seasons, since Bud was 25 years old. Pop told SI's Chris Mannix this last fall:

"First of all, Mike has a wonderful understanding of the game," Popovich said. "That's a requirement. He's really good relationship-wise, too. He's secure in his own skin and he's able to tell a player the truth whether the player wants to hear it or not."

Bud was a finalist (along with Elston Turner, Tyrone Corbin and eventual choice Terry Porter) for the Phoenix job last summer. It was the first job in which Budenholzer was really considered. During that interview process, Pop offered another endorsement -- "[he] would make a fine coach in the NBA,without a doubt."

When Steve Kerr wrote for Yahoo!, he offered this anecdote in a January 2004 column on the importance of scouting and knowing your opponent.

The perfect example of all of these defensive factors coming together occurred at the end of Friday's San Antonio-Phoenix game. With the Spurs clinging to a two-point lead, the Suns called a timeout with three seconds left to set up a play.

San Antonio assistant coach Mike Budenholzer grabbed a clipboard and diagrammed a play that he had seen Mike D'Antoni run late in a game against Chicago several weeks ago. It's a beautifully designed back-door play that attempts to draw the defense out to the perimeter and then counter with one player making a quick cut to the rim for an open layup.

Budenholzer repeated to Hedo Turkoglu several times during the timeout, "Don't follow Joe Johnson to the three-point line! They're setting you up for a back door!" When the play developed, the 6-foot-8, 230-pound 2-guard Turkoglu started to feel himself drawn to the perimeter but remembered Budenholzer's advice, stayed at home and broke up the play. The Spurs hung on to win.

More recently, Budenholzer has been single-handedly teaching Drew Gooden the Spurs' system. Further, and less Bud-specific, work by Dean Oliver has indicated coaches can affect defense more readily than offense. Scott Skiles' impact in Milwaukee would seem to reiterate this.

I guess the general sentiment involved on my end is this:

The Kings have a long way to go in every facet of the game. The offense is bad, with tools available but ineffective implementation rampant. The defense is beyond awful, with only the most minor shreds of material to work with. After four coaches in four calendar years, it's time for stability. How better to make a move in stability's direction than to hire Gregg Popovich's right-hand man, a kid no one has anything bad to say about? Doesn't the top assistant of a coach who has won four titles in the last decade, has a 67% winning percentage (63% in the playoffs) -- doesn't he merit consideration? What's the problem here?

(And don't give me P.J. Carlesimo. That's a completely separate thread unrelated to Bud.)

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I would be more than happy with Budenholzer

I voted for EJ. But, I’d gladly take him, Bud, or Thibodeau as our coach. If we land any of those 3 I’ll be very happy. How Whiz got more votes, I have no idea.

Bud seems smart. Smart enough that he’d be able to implement a Princeton style offense, or at least an offense that’s much more effecient. He could also teach our guys a thing or two about defense.

I think Eddie Jordan might be the consensus pick by management, though. I also think Petrie can convince the Maloofs to hire EJ too. It’s simple really. The offense will run really well under him and we’ll win a helluva lot more. Remember when we overachieved in Theus’ first year? It’ll be like that again, without the fall off the next year. If the Maloofs just let Petrie do his job and rebuild this team it’ll be like 1999 all over again. And that will sell tickets, which means more money for the Maloofs, which will make it harder for them to move this team and make it easier for them to spend on this team. He appeals to both the owners and management because he runs the Princeton and he’ll bring in some money. I like Budenholzer, don’t get me wrong, but Jordan makes more sense.

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by vfettke on Apr 10, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

"How Whiz got more votes, I have no idea"

Well … Joe, Gavin, George, Phil and Colleen.

by Mystic on Apr 10, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Stinky voted for him under his four screen names

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Apr 10, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. More. Newbies.

There’s a learning curve to NBA coaching. I’m wildly, utterly underwhelmed by Eddie “42 wins” Jordan, but at least he’s been around the block and knows what he’s doing. Haven’t we endured enough rookie mistakes at the hands of Musselman, Theus and Natt to last us a while?

There are enough candidates with real experience out there to choose from.

by nbrans on Apr 10, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Newbies or retreads?

Not saying that EJ completely falls in the “retread” category, but he still feels more like a caretaker in my mind, than an ultimate solution.

Having said that, I voted for Flip. But I knew nothing about Budenholzer until reading this diary. The idea of losing another inexperienced coach is galling, so it would be a risky move – but it sounds like he has the necessary pedigree for an NBA coach.

I mean, all of the great coaches had to have their first head coaching job at some point right?

by otis29 on Apr 10, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, but...

…how many of the washouts are we personally going to be responsible for?

Not saying anything about Budenholzer specifically, just a general comment on one possible perception of yet another inexperienced head coach.

I couldn’t even bring myself to vote. It’s too big of a decision. I really honestly believe that, maybe even more than the draft, the fate of this team rests in finding the right man to run this thing.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Apr 10, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry but...

I’m giving you P.J. Carlesimo. A man whom I, absolutely admittedly, was once more excited about potentially coaching the Kings than Stan Van Gundy.

by rbiegler on Apr 10, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

All the same comments about Bud

were said about P.J. I have to imagine he would be better, but I have no idea how good he would be. He is more of an unknown than Tom Thibodeau. I had never even heard of him until I read something posted about him here a few months ago.

by mayfieldcol on Apr 10, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No ...

P.J. had a track record as a head coach, from his disaster in Golden State and his stint at Seton Hall. Plus he was a TV analyst that, frankly, didn’t offer any great insight. P.J. seemed like bad news based on how abrasive his Warriors term had been.

by Tom Ziller on Apr 10, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But before the Seattle/OKC debacle

all I heard on TV or in the paper was how he was the great coach in waiting. I will absolutely give you that Bud lacks PJ’s drawbacks. I think a good example to support your candidate is Mike Brown who was an assistant in San Antonio and then took awhile, but has really got the Cavs (even the non Lebrons) playing at a high level on defense and on offense.

by mayfieldcol on Apr 10, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly

Most people I pay attn to thought P.J. was a bad choice. I know folks on this site threatened to burn down the arena if hired to replace Adelman.

by Tom Ziller on Apr 10, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does

“Bud” get linked to PJ? Because they both coached under Pop?

A bit ludicrous.

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by section214 on Apr 10, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think that's why in that snippet of the Pop interview in Ziller's post

Popovich made sure to mention:

He’s really good relationship-wise, too

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by vfettke on Apr 10, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect World...

E.J. with Coachie whispering sweet Princeton nothings into his ear
Buddhaholster as defensive coordinator
Rubio drafted and immedately channels Nash
Kings with rings in 2011

Alarm went off – must wake up now…

by batso on Apr 10, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

EJ a "win-win"

We’re not ready to win now, so coaches like Flip and JVG won’t be interested. The best bet for us is a guy who will commit to our rebuilding for 4 years, and who has something to gain from it. EJ probably thinks he could be Rick Adelman if given time, support, and more experience. Works for him, works for us.

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Apr 10, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

chicken vs. the egg

So I feel like- and I think a lot of you may agree with me here- that the Kings have more than a few quality pieces in play. K-Mart is the best player on the team, and a developing stud. Shock and Hawes look to be one of the better young 4/5, 5/4 combinations in the league. Cisco is developing into a really solid 6th man and scorer. Obviously we’ve got some short comings, not limited to a new/different PG, a lockdown defender (which we haven’t had since Ron-Ron), etc.

So my question is such: does GP (and the Maloofs, unfortunately) pick a coach based upon where he/they see the team headed in terms of personnel. or rather, does GP pick a coach and then decided which way to head? The question arises because it seems that EJ would be better equipped to deal with a princeton offense with more shooting and cutting, while Buddholsterdinger would be better suited to a more defensive-minded roster. I know that I’m generalizing on coaching styles and rosters, but I feel the question still applies. Please let me know what you all think on which comes first (both logically, and then what is most likely to happen).

by misterbrister on Apr 10, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

See Skiles with the Bucks

Unless you think a rookie, and Francisco Elson are the reasons for a defensive turnaround, I would say that the Coach and the defensive sets and attention to the defensive side of the ball are more important than anything else. When Skiles was with Chicago they had one of the better defenses in the NBA… he is doing the same thing with the Bucks. I can only imagine what they would have been like had Bogut been fully healthy and swatting a few shots a game.

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Apr 10, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Budenholzer

I really do, but I don’t want another person who hasn’t had much NBA head coaching experience.. not again, especially with people like Saunders, Van Gundy, Jordan, Johnson, and Cheeks available who have all been an NBA Head Coach at one point in time. I won’t be mad if Budenholzer became our coach, I’d just be disappointed because we could have gone for a surer bet.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Apr 10, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I would

only be upset with Budenholzer if he failed miserably. If we saw improvement on both sides of the ball I would be content.

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on Apr 10, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

What does Budenholzer lacking head coaching experience have to do with being successful at the NBA level? That’s true of every coach in the NBA.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

As someone who believes you to be a thoughtful young person

I would suggest you learn more of the story about how Phil Jackson got hired (assuming you don’t know all of it). It’s very interesting, and the processes in that all worked. Awhile ago, I ran across an interesting column on Hoopshype regarding Jerry Krause. Some of it pertained some quality information on how Phil Jackson was hired, and why he was. I linked to my fanpost, and you should be able to get to the hoopshype link from there.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

When PJ got originally hired by Chicago after Doug Collins got fired

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doug Collins, I forgot about him

wasn’t he supposedly interested in the Chicago coaching job last year. He knows the game, and should be respected by the players. Would he be a good option for us?

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Apr 11, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell to the hizzno

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

Not a chance in hell if Collins had the power to make my mom into Rupaul. (Even though that would make me pause greatly. I would also promptly kill Collins if that did happen.)

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You made your case Ziller

And now he has my vote.

After all, he can tell us what they feed Tim Duncan and keep him a 20-10-2 guy for 15 years.

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by ZenBaller on Apr 10, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Greatness?

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Apr 10, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take your word for it

he sounds like he’s ready

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect
and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Apr 10, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted other/ none, can't remember

None of the experienced coaches knocks my socks off and TZ you just sold me on Budlinzenker (sp?) but……………….. and it’s a big but, I’m not talking about Section’s wife or mine) I have a real concern with bringing in a rook coach.

Now all the coaches we could agree on as good coaches got their first head coaching gig somewhere, they were all rookie coaches at one time. There is just such a difference between being the head assistant and being the man.

I have referred to TZ’s post about EJ several times before and he had me convinced there, that based on the players GP had drafted and the style of play he favors that Jordan was our man.

Barring any draft day trades the Kings are going to be bringing 3 additional rookies into the mix. It’s obvious from last night’s game that Ă© needs more coaching and more floor time and that next season we will be in full rebuild mode and loaded with young players who all need to be coached and developed.

It seems to me that the most important ability our next coach needs to possess is the ability to develop young players. I think we are going to win more games next season for the simple reason that we can hardly lose more but the real item of importance for the team next year is to continue developing our kids and to continue the process of rebuilding.

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Apr 10, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

thanks vfettke

I’ve never been called real classy before

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by Bluejohn on Apr 10, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do people not want a coach who is an assistant? To me being an assistant coach in the NBA is pretty good experience especially when he is the top assistant to a team who has won 4 titles in the last decade. Why is everyone so caught up on EJ? I mean he isn’t the best coach out there and the best he did with the Wizards was get them out of the first round ONCE!!! Ziller you have just swayed this fan’s coaching pick to Budenholzer

by SacKings4Life on Apr 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Something to consider

 I don’t think his playoff record has everything to do with him. Some of it has to do with his team being injured. Some of it has to do with playing Lebron James in the first round every damn year.

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by vfettke on Apr 10, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

and remember,

EJ was a stud assistant not too long ago

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Apr 10, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

I don’t remember that talk. I liked EJ then, and I think he brings a level of class this franchise could use in dealing with the media. But outside of that, I don’t really see the net positives that EJ brings.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

would the Kings getting Budenholzer=

to the Sharks getting McLellan minus all the talent the Sharks had for their sport?

by Brian5517209 on Apr 10, 2009 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Aren't Pop's comments

of the obligatory variety? If he said something negative, you have to pay attention. That wouldn’t happen. Saying good things about your guys has to be taken with a grain of salt, yes? Gotta like the SI quote, though.

I just hope there are no absolute qualifier/disqualifier’s like, ‘has he been a head coach in the league?’ Mainly, I want the decision to be GP’s and GP’s alone. I would feel good about that.

by left hand on Apr 10, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

bring back adelman?! look how well he is doing with the rockets without one of his superstars… hmmm i wonder why we ever fired that guy

by SacKings4Life on Apr 10, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted for Bud for every reason you gave

I also voted for Bud for other reasons that I don’t think make EJ a good fit here: He appeals to the Maloof’s to get better defensively (this team sucks there we can all agree), he appeals to Petrie because he won’t mind the fact that Petrie (and maybe Levien) will get offnsive players—he knows the deal with franchises and systems, and perhaps the most important point, he will recognize why keeping Pete Carril around would work, and not just as a guy who “knows” the Princeton, but an amazing developer of young talent whom garners respect from everyone in the basketball universe.

Seriously, Budenholzer should be the choice. But, I fear Eddie Jordan will be Petrie’s choice, and for that, I don’t understand why.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Jeff Bzdelik is another guy I think the Kings should go after

But, who knows what will happen with him? Maybe he loves losing in Colorado. Or maybe he just doesn’t want to live and thinks he can do what Billy Donovan did in Florida. Either way, even though Bzdelik’s reputation has hurt him since getting canned in Denver, I do think he’s a very underrated coach who did everything remotely possible that any coach in his position could do.

But, I’d still rather have Budenholzer, but only if he’s given a long term contract. Otherwise it’s Reggie Theus redux.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 11, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that too

Bzdelik was given the young Carmelo Anthony, Andre Miller, Marcus Camby, an old Jon Barry, and he had to try and develop Nikoloz freaking Tskitishvili, and he took that team to the playoffs. He doesn’t get as much credit as he deserves.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Apr 11, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had Nene too

But, yes, you’re certainly right. (Still, I’d rather have Budenholzer if I had a choice between the two.)

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 12, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

all things being equal

I like Budenholzer over Bzdelik because
1) it is easier to pronounce
2) it is easier to spell
3) has the more Anglican ratio of consonants to vowels

Bzdelik is coaching buffaloes, Budenholzer is coaching spurs. Spurs will move a buffalo every time. Bzdelik is making $800.000 per season, I doubt Budenholzer is making this much as an assistant but truly I have no idea how much assisstants are paid and why there are so many on each team. Both of these guys would be less expensive than Eddie Jordan ($4M last year and owed the same amount next season), Avery Johnson or Flip Wilson-Murray-Saunders (recently tagged for Wizards opening). I suspect Tom Thibodeau is expecting something in the $2-2.5M range but what do I know – nothing.

Stability is the key – so whomever is signed needs at least 3 yrs.even if I can’t spell their name.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 12, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that stability is key

But I think respect, mutually, is even more important. The “next” coach has to have power to make decisions that influence the game, and get players to agree to do them so that they can themselves become better players.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 12, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Budenholzer"

Strangely enough, it’s the word I’ve always used to scare my daughter when she comes running around a corner. Although I usually say “Buddabuddabudenholzer”.

This works on smaller pets as well.

by otis29 on Apr 13, 2009 5:09 AM PDT reply actions  

"Budenholzer"

A word often used by German proctologists.

“Ze problem iz you have a zmall gerbil zhtuck in your Budenholzer.”

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

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