Two fail-safe sources reveal the Kings also are contemplating turning over the sidelines to the [Ettore Messina]. Currently coaching CSKA Moscow, Messina was recently contacted by a Sacramento representative regarding interest in an interview. It's in stone Raptors president Bryan Colangelo plans to meet with Messina during the European Final Four in Berlin (Barcelona vs. CSKA, and Olympiacos vs. Panathinaikos) beginning May 1.
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If this isn't official news
I don’t know what is that Natt isn’t coming back. (Not that we thought he would anyway.) But, the idea of reaching out to Messina is not a bad idea at all. I don’t know if he would succeed right away in the NBA, but then again, who knows? I’ve heard worst idea’s. Like Eric Musselman. (And I never dreamed he could be that bad.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
sounds good to me
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Peter Vecsey, the man who voted Vinny Del Negro for Coach of the Year 2009
(I think that should be an obligatory disclaimer for everything he publishes from here on out)
by Norsktroll on Apr 21, 2009 6:39 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Much more the way I saw the search going
Lots of “leaks”, presumably from the coaches themselves, and several interviews before GP finally pulls the trigger.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
Would we really start interviews
before letting Natt go? It’s obvious that we aren’t picking up Natt’s option, but wouldn’t it be a bit more classy to formally let him go before interviewing his potential replacements?
No
I have to believe the interview would happen at the Final Four in the first week of May, where at least Petrie and probably others will be in attendance.
Natt’s option is due by May 1, and Petrie’s leaving at the end of this week. So I imagine official word on Natt will come sooner, perhaps today or Wednesday.
again about Vescey
It’s not just that, as Norsktroll mentioned, he has no idea about basketball, he’s also very, very willing to make up “sources” out of thin air and post the most blatant bull**** with credit to these “sources”, just because it sorta makes sense to him.
All this basically meaning: wait until somebody else reports anything on this.
Fight indifference! Or don't.
I wouldn't sweat it too much
I’m cool with them interviewing as many potential candidates as they need before making a decision.
Yeah the Kings are a bunch of tough guys right now.
We make the Pittsburgh Steelers look like children. I shudder to think what would happen if we became soft!
by mayfieldcol on Apr 21, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
xenophobia strikes again!
I don’t want anybody with a foreign accent coaching this team, unless it’s Avery Johnson!
by corbin on Apr 21, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
That's funny
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
HELL YES, interview him
C’mon guys, this shouldn’t even be an argument! During a coaching search you should interview a whole bunch of guys, and this particular guy is by many accounts a very, very good coach. The Nets and Raptors are already courting him, why shouldn’t we at least take a look?
Hire Messina, draft Griffin
that way Petrie gets his euro fix and we get Griffin.
There has been a lot of chatter that Brian Collangelo in Toronto was interested as well and Collangelo is a smart guy. There was also talk about Collangelo bringing him in as an assistant for a couple of years.
Just goes to show we know nothing about what’s going on and are operating in an information vacuum having to rely on the east coast media even for rumors.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I'm italian and yes..
I’m proud of the remote possibility to have Messina coaching the Kings!
He is surely not a soft coach, and he surely knows how to make his teams play well….and, by the way DRAFT RUBIO!
Today on ESPN
Chris Sheridan had a story about how Mike Brown was a very deserving coach of the year candidate. One of the points he made was that he came from a strong tree in San Antonio where they trust and develop coaches. He mentioned that when the Brown wanted the Cavs to improve on offense he went to see Ettore Messina.
I think Sam Amick mentioned him as a long-shot candidate (my words not his) for the coaching job. I think that as long as Geoff Petrie makes the selection with a minimum of noise from ownership I will be happy. We have nowhere to go but up from here.
I've read in a few spots today
that Mike Brown seeks out other coaches for input how to improve.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And
Maybe Mike Brown is the strongest argument for Mike Budenholzer.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Agreed.
Well maybe Ziller makes the best argument. But it is close between the two.
Good call mayfield
One might say it’s perilously close.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
How dare you think Ettore Messian is a good coach cuz he's Italian and so are you
How dare you believe such blasphemy! You’re going to burn in hell for such transgressions. Just ask the pope. He’s down the road, right?
On a serious note, this isn’t the first (or last in all likelihood) that I’ve heard Messina’s name mentioned. Bryan Colangelo has loved him for years, and who knows, maybe Messina could make Bargnani a better player than Triani or Mitchell did.
Even then, I won’t complain (even if I don’t think Messina is the ideal choice) if he is hired. And, the fact that he speaks English is an important selling point to me. What I find more intriguing is that he hasn’t just coached in the Italian league. Not a single person here has mentioned it, but this is a guy coaching a team in MOSCOW. He can coach. That isn’t the question. The question is should he coach the Kings long term. And that’s the only important question here.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Messina and Vescey
Messina – I have read nothing but good things about Messina – supposed to be the best coach in the Euroleague. My only concern about him is that he has no NBA experience even though he has years of experience as a head coach. In my opinion, the Euroleague, which I believe is the highest level of basketball in Europe is only a notch or two down from the NBA, certainly above college ball here. I am much more comfortable with Messina than I would be with the Whiz.
Vescey – Peter Vescey is the godfather of modern basketball writing. He prints a lot of rumors in general because he’s plugged in but in recent years his reputation has taken a hit because too many of the rumors he prints seem to be made up out of whole cloth. Just because it’s in Vescey’s column doesn’t mean he made it up, he’s been around for a long time and has a ton of sources.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Read EC Inc BJ
I’ve already got my response up there.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
But regarding Vescey
Some of the shit he throws is just that, and some of it is totally true. If he did vote for Vinny Del Negro as coach of the year, I wonder why, but that doesn’t mean he is a complete hack. His reputation hurt with somebody liked me who despised him during his time on NBC. But as a writer for the Post, he does a pretty good job. And, one of his best under-cover sources (if you want to call it that) is Donnie Walsh. It’s always useful to keep these types of things in mind when you, as you say BJ talk about how long Vescey’s been doing his job and how many sources he’s got, throw Vescey under the bus. The guy has been thrown under the bus his whole career, and, is still around.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
On another note
Andrea Bargnani has looked LOADS better under Jay Triano. I expected the Raptors to keep Triano and have Iavaroni join as top assistant.
Anyways, I like Messina and I wouldn’t mind him coaching in Sacramento, as his credentials are great, but I would still prefer some JVG or possibly Budenholzer up in here.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
I'll throw up if JVG becomes head coach
And I mean everywhere. It will make the worldwide news I swear.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I will join in a vomit protest if JVG is named our new coach.
Seriously, I’m talking drunken puppet from Team America-style throwing up.
If the new coach is Fratello…well, let’s just say it involves the “other end” doing the spewing.
"Yeah, totally! Totes Magotes! Cool."
by PhutureKings on Apr 21, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
When you start bending over
I’ll know you’re serious Phuture. (I’m kidding dude. No, really I am.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
More of a squat at that point, versus a "bending over"
"Yeah, totally! Totes Magotes! Cool."
by PhutureKings on Apr 22, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he can get Kenny G to play Sax while he's at it
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DIRTY KIDS!
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
OK that's really funny...
…but you’re dating yourself. You realize most of the kids these days have no idea who Kenny Loggins is never mind his old sidekick.
He'll fit in great in West Sac...
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
The only good thing about West Sac is leaving it...
Oh, and IKEA.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Be funny if the Kings moved there
Dont’ laugh. How many people thought the Rivercats would ever play in West Sac?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Arena issues
Do you know how many massage parlors West Sac would have to tear down to build an arena? I’m not sure the city could take the tax revenue hit.
Ike Diogu - kicking ass and taking names since 4/13/09
by otis29 on Apr 22, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You sound dangerously close to a patron with that comment Otis
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
West Sac massage parlors?
Sounds like a job for Slamwow!
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Apr 22, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look at what you done did started
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Now I'm depressed
Cuz now I know you run of those parlor’s. Yikes!
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Can the StR community
get a coupon for Otis’ massage parlor, (buy a rub, get the tug free?).
"Yeah, totally! Totes Magotes! Cool."
by PhutureKings on Apr 22, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Otis' West Sac Massage Parlor and Bait
Give me the all-over-and-under and a can of red wigglers.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Interesting
I guess I wouldn’t mind it if Petrie truly believed Messina was the right man for this team.
On a side note, StR got a shout out from the Rise Guys in the morning. I think that they actually saw this fanshot in the morning because they used it to transition to the Messina subject. They said something along the lines of “if you want to get all the information about the Kings you got KHDK, and if you want even more information on the net head over to sactownroyalty.com (they got the name right).”
Looks like StR is the go-to-place for all things Kings. Great work TZ and Section.
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