Weekend Playoff Thread
by section214 on Apr 25, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
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Better Times
Better late than never - one game in progress and another seven on tap over the weekend. If you watch all eight games, you are guaranteed to see almost half as many wins as the Kings secured all season.
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LOL Thunderburke
The good old days. I like how Brent Price is too good for the bird. Jesus, look at our team depth back then. I miss the Bench Mob.
Look at that rag-tag bunch of unkempt hippies
They should have gotten Vlade a leather Fonz jacket.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
SA up 3 early on
I think I’m going to go bother Mavs Moneyball now.
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Or Dallas kicking the shit out of them did
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thanks for stealing my avatar pic there Section. ;p
Must win game for NO. Mission accomplished. Must win game for SA. Having trouble after a hot start. Dallas up 7 middle of the 2nd.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Yes, I know I stole it from you.
Thanks for letting me use it.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
personally
I really think they need K9 or Nocioni to add depth, yah, that’s it.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Looks like they're gonna be well over the cap.
They may have trouble improving over the summer and will have to rely totally on their guys getting healthy.
I wonder alot what the Kings are gonna do with K9
If the economy was good, they’d obviously trade him, but maybe at this point we just hang on to him and let him expire?
He adds a ton of flexibility
Basically having him around next year adds the possibility of trading for a legit player without giving up any core pieces. Of course the Maloofs have to be willing to take on that contract we’d be getting in theory, which is the big question, but for the first time, I think we should be looking forward to having K9’s contract on the books for next year.
If we use it, we get the chance to add significant value from some team worse of financially than us (if those exist).
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Memphis is definitely one
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Memphis doesn't owe anybody anything though.
I know nobody is going to their games, but to dump salary when they’re already WAY below the salary cap… They’d have to be in a REAL bad way.
Memphis wasnt' below the salary cap until they dumped Gasol
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PAU Gasol
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Let me rephrase this for you
Memphis was well over the cap until they trade Pau Gasol. When they dumped his salary was the major reason they were able to get under the cap.
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bet Pops could make nocs fit in there pretty well
I’m pretty sure they have no cap room, which is why they are relying on vet minimum, late first round and early 2nd draft picks. All their cap room is tied up in Timmie, Manu and Parker.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Well until 2010 that's true
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Over the cap, under the tax
Not a lot of wiggle room, but a ton of expiring contract (about $28 million, including Manu).
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Yep
ShamSports is a great bookmark for this kind of info(for any who don’t know, I know you know 214).
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that site
some much great info there.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the expanded stats of kids
Particularly in Europe vs the NCAA. Gives you an idea of what kind of player you may be looking at. I discovered looking at it that they don’t just stop there either; they continue with the pro stats too.
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could you share that link with me pook?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Go to DX and pick a player
and look at the extended stats tab. Not much to share BJ.
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Or comprehensive stats
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Wyn of Canis Hoopus has quality information as well
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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That is nice
thanks for the link
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a nice spreadsheet
There are some mis-leading things there though.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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The Spurs will have MAJOR cap room in 2010
They only have Parker, Duncan, Ian Mahinmi, and George Hill signed thru 2010. I can see someone like Chris Bosh or Joe Johnson going to SA to be with Duncan, Parker, and likely Ginobili and continue the winning tradition. The Spurs will be fine.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
Found it
Here’s the major linkage.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
I also thought Ian Mahinmi
was going to make an impact this year. Good defender who is a good learner too.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
SA making a run late 2nd
up one now. 29 for Parker, 12 for Duncan and 9 for everyone else.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I agree
but its easier to add talent when that talent only has to do well-defined things. Duncan does so much for them. He controls the defensive glass, he guards the basket, takes the opponents best big out of the game. On offense, whenever they need to, they dump the ball in and he commands a double team, meaning they need fewer playmakers (though they have some).
Post-Duncan, the Spurs will not have those built in advantages, so they’ll need more dynamic players. Finding those is hard, though of course the Spurs have been great at it.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
They could trade Duncan and/or Manu in KG like fashion
to some team looking for a 2-3 year window and retool very quickly. I doubt that happens though. Think Duncan has earned the right to retire a Spur.
So, a gradual decline and sharp drop when Duncan retires is likely and after their long, long run of success, to be expected.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
They didn't still have a Tony Parker
after trading KG. They also didn’t have the proceeds of a Manu trade. If the Spurs were to trade Duncan and Manu over the next 9 months and got anything like what Minny got, they’d be bad for a very short time. Also, I wasn’t disagreeing with Aykis, just adding to the discussion.
Again, though. I don’t think there’s a chance in hell of them making those trades.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
2010 is their friend
as I said, check this site here.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
Tony Parker, Tony Parker, Tony Parker
French and all is starting to make me re- think Rubio. Could he do that for us given time?
Does anyone know if they still allow hand checking in the Euroleague? If they do all his taking it to the rim, splitting the defense etc is even more impressive.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
1) Let’s get Rubio first
2) then remember how badly Parker struggled early in his career
3) patience, patience, patience
then yes, I think theoretically Parker, maybe not as quick, but even more of a playmaker for other people, is what people envision for Rubio.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
thanks forthree
which is why I said given time. Do you know if hand checking is still allowed in Euroleague?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
From what I've seen
I don’t think they allow alot of physical contact. I doubt hand checking is allowed, but I can’t be sure. Asking Zen or KFfCE or any of the impending Rubio fans might be very useful.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
One thing to remember BJ
It’s actually somewhat difficult to get into the lane in part because it’s so clogged all the time. Scoring in there is not necessarily easier than the NBA; but the lane is so much wider that more players end up being down there.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
thanks pook
I don’t look down on the Euroleague like many do because at the highest level it’s not too far down from nba ball.European ball does have a lot of levels though. That being said I need to do some research on what’s going on overt there.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
The wider lane makes it harder to have a dominant post presence on offense
the lane and the legal zone, with no defensive 3 second rule. Right? So, it’s more packed with defensive players, not offensive, which I think is what you were saying.
Also explains why Euro bigs tend to have good jump shots.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It also makes it more difficult to drive
Or get an easier shot in the lane for a G.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
yeah
packed with defensive players. I got that that was your original point. I was mostly just clarifying that it was the lane width and the lack of defensive 3 second rule.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that's important to note
Sorry about that.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
no sorry necessary
good points all around.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Parker is 1 of the quickest guards in the league
Rubio is not near as fast as parker and isnt very athletic. I like Rubio 2 but hes not going to be like Parker, Parker uses his speed to get to the basket and Rubio isnt going to be able to do that as good as Parker. Parker was in the top 3 for guards at scoring around the basket in the league
Its weird seeing Kidd
defer on outlet passes. Dampier just got a defensive rebound, passed it out to Kidd and immediately he gave it up to Barea. You’d expect to see Kidd pushing it and making something happen.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Fathertime eventually hits the best of us 43
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not going to re argue the stat arguement here
but statistically JKidd is still among the best 1’s in the league. It’s his smarts that allows him to know what he can’t do anymore and what makes him still a valuable player as opposed to AI whose still has skill but whose pride makes him almost worthless now.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
at 36 (?) they aren't expecting much d from him now
AI never played d anyway
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Err
he’s 12th all time in steals. The guy certainly has ego issues, no doubt about it, but the AI bashing goes too far sometimes.
AI has always played his ass off, averaged 40+ minutes a game almost every season, averaged over 6 assists per game, and I’ve never, ever seen him not try. He’s got his issues, but that’s why he’s a compelling personality.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Well said
And, David Aldridge did mention that Detroit’s other veterans never embraced AI. They were all a bit mad about Billups departing.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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compelling personality no doubt
but older player with declining skills who won’t consider coming off the bench and taking a secondary role is what I’m talking about, not bashing him at all
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
But Kidd just stole the ball from Roger Mason
And got the foul from Mason.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
it is
when you get the steal. :-)
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
I love
when Duncan shoves the rookie in the back with both hands, the foul is on the rookie.
How dare he not let Duncan setup wherever he’d like?!?
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
It's good to be King
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
and if anybody deserves to be king TD does, fouls aside, class act all the way
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Does Parker ever miss?
the guy’s been on fire for like an hour straight now, amazing.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Good 3rd Q for the Mavs
Up 80-71 now.
Parker with 35, Duncan with 23 and the rest with 13.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Well, at least the Spurs will probably have a longer than average offseason to rest their older guys.
Not looking like they’re gonna win this series.
They won't say that publicly
But I suspect that’s what management would prefer too.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah they are
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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makes you pine
for the Kings season ticket holder interviews between quarters, pandering for ticket sales.
Oh wait, no it doesn’t, they both are horrendous.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
haha
coach interviews are bad, but not even close to as bad as the ticket holder interviews.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
They all suck
But not as much you do. :P
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I really hate that cab commerical
And, I mean, really hate it. This Cisco commercial is not far behind.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Mavs don't have an answer for Parker
But they don’t need one because nobody else besides Duncan is giving the Spurs anything. I guess when you lose an all-star your team is way worse. Who knew?
I hope that isn't a point for Artest
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
SA bench is 1-13
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
See I told you u suck
You & SA’s bench. Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha </ stabs self in heart >
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
One word: No
2 other words: George Hill. 2 more other words: Jacque Vaughn.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I've got nothing
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Game isn't over yet though
5 point game 7:25 to go.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Terry
really needs to make a shot or two.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Technical for taunting?
I don’t get that call.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Finger wag is taunting
shirt pulling and chest thumping are taunting. If you aren’t going to call those, I wouldn’t call that.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
he was facing Duncan is how he got the call. Not sure I completely agree, but I can understand it.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Yeah, that kind of stuff could get out of hand, but
in this situation, I’d rather see a no call and a league fine. That call late in a close game could change the out come. And if it was Garnett or Casell doing the big balls dance it wouldn’t have been called.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I certainly won't argue the double standard
I totally agree with your statement.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
That what a few Mavs Moneyball folks said
Wes Cox (the main blogger there) brought up Shaq.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Shaq is a perfect example of getting right in the other guys face
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He is
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Not necessarily a bad thing either
Duncan can use some rest for his ailing body.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Good game.
Now to see if Atl can bounce back.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I'm going to sleep
Dwyane Wade couldn’t possibly top the excitement that was Dallas-San Antonio.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Kings-like start for the Hawks
down 14 points in the 1st Q.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Bibby 2-4
rest of team 0-12
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
rest of team 1-16 now
Johnson 0-7, 2 TOs and 4 blocked attempts. Yikes!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think any team that has Joe Johnson as their best player is going very far in the playoffs
JJ is good, but not good enough to carry a team in the postseason by himself. He’ll get to witness Wade do that first hand, though.
unfortunately
the Atlanta model is probably the direction we’re going, barring extraordinary good fortune. Having lots of good players rather than a great one or two. Historically that’s been a tough way to win deep in the playoffs, but you play the hand you’re dealt.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
So, that Dwayne Wade guy is pretty good.
50-29 at the half.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Big game now
Can Utah make it a best of 3? Okur is back.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Okur had no idea what he wanted to do on that possesion
I didn’t see how he looked earlier, but that wasn’t promising for Jazz fans or [redacted] enemies.
Not looking good for the Jazz
Who was calling for Scott to be fired for “under-performing” with CP3, West an aging Peja and an injured Chandler? Are you also calling for Sloan’s head for being an 8 seed and looks like a 5 games and out team, with Deron, Carlos, Milsap, Okur, and AK47?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I didn't say they should fire him or would fire him
I was just comparing two similarly talented teams that look like they will meet similar fates this season. I find it interesting that Scott is criticized but Sloan is not. That’s all.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Jazz have been plagued by injuries all season
They’re a better team than their record, but not good enough to beat the [redacted].
Hornets have been injured all year too
Hornets only had 5 players play 65+ – Butler, Paul, West, Posey, Armstrong.
Compare to the
Jazz – 8 players played 65+ games-Brewer, Korver, Milsap, Knight, Okur, Miles, Williams and Kirilenko
Chandler and Boozer both played less than 50. Very similar seasons.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Paul played 78 and West played 76
Williams played 68 and Boozer played 37. New Orleans had the services of its all-stars for basically the entire season, the Jazz did not.
And Utah is deeper
with Milsap, Kirilenko, Okur, Korver, Brewer vs. Peja, Chandler and … who? Butler? Posey? Armstrong? Marks?. I’d say the drop off from Chandler to Armstrong is greater than the drop off from Boozer to Milsap too.
I still say, very similar seasons.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 25, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone should blame Scott
especially with the way the front office is. They tried to trade one of their key players at the deadline then had it vetoed. And the only reason they attempted the trade was for financial purposes. Basically, management said winning wasn’t important, we need the money. I’d play with a little less effort too.
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Kirilenko..
is the guy I’d love to have as a SF…if he plays like he used to he’s maybe the most complete human (not considering Wade, LBJ and stuff like that) player in the league.
He is unhappy in Utah…let’s trade Noc for him!
He must mean these guys -
I’ll take the one on the right.
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When we had Artest
I was seriously hoping for an Artest/Thomas or Abdur-Rahim or Moore for Kirilenko trade. The Jazz get legit cap relief and Sacramento gets a team player, an offensive facilitator, and one of the best help defenders in the league.
Andrei Kirilenko is one of my favorite players in the game because he has such a complete game offensively and defensively, as Panzerfaust said. I think his recession is due to being less involved in the offense (or is it just disliking Sloan?) because of Deron Williams, Carlos Boozer, and Mehmet Okur who score more and have the ball in their hands more often then Kirilienko.. make him part of the vocal point on offense and he will play like he once did on both sides of the court.
Not to mention that Kirilenko seems to be more effective as a 4 then a 3.
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Did Hedo come to play today?
He needs to step up. Magic off to a good start.
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The Celtics/Bulls game was epic.
Of course, when Brad picked up the “T” in a tight game, Peaches’ voice began to dance around in my head. And I forgot that Mikki signed with Boston. He gets so little playing time, even with KG out. Kind of sums up how far away we are from being an elite team again.
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Remember when he said
that we may have been tanking because he was starting?? Yeah Mikki, about that….
Orlando by 2, Philly ball 24 seconds to go
can they get another last second win?
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Kings like D on that pick and roll by Orlando
Dalembert dunk.
Tie game. Magic ball. 14.8 to go.
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Hedo!
big 3. 0.9 to go.
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Series tied up
home court advantage back to Orlando.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Portland this bad
against decent competition or is Houston really the 2nd best team in the west?
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its been a good game so far
someone needs to tell Portland they’re actually in the playoffs, they started a while ago, and it might be a good idea to bring some intensity.
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Hahaha
That’s the lack of playoff experience a lot of ‘exprts’ have been talking about when it comes to this young Blazers team.
I really don't like the makeup of this Portland team
I know Pritchard is a genius, and there are 10 future all-stars on the roster based on the hype, but they have one very good, probably great player in Roy and then…what?
LMA doesn’t assert himself at all, they don’t have a #2 option right now. Rudy Fernandez looks like a very, very good role player that isn’t afraid of the moment, and everyone else has been bad. (Outlaw had some good moments in the first half tonight.)
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LMA is good, but still young and too thin
he’s getting pushed around by Scola and Yao. They really need one more stud. Oden to develop, but he’s just not ready yet, or Durant would’ve been nice.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Rockets are a real tough matchup for them
Roy and LMA are your two best scorers and the Rockets can run Artest/Battier at Roy and Scola/Yao at LMA. The SFs and the Cs for Portland have not risen to the occasion and PG has been a wash at best.
John Salmons probably would’ve helped them in this series.
On the plus side they are the youngest team in the league, aren’t they?
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
they are really young in this series, that’s obvious. LMA has really woken up this quarter at least for them.
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I think the Warriors are the youngest team in the league
Portland is still very young and talented though. The problem I see with them moving forward is that they are not going to have anymore lottery picks so any player the get to complete their puzzle has to come through trade or FA signing
just counting the people we have signed now
we have to be pretty young too. :)
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If Oden pans out
they need a PG and can maybe get one in this draft?
They also have Bayless and Batum who are both very young. It’s really all about Oden. If he’s a bust they may have trouble taking it up to the next level.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
On the plus side for Portland
Bad-Ron is in full effect here in the 3rd quarter.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Really good quarter for Portland
playing with purpose and hustle, if they keep it up they might make a great series out of this.
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yeah
very nice run to end the Q.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Wafer
measured that 3 too much, but he got it down.
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LMA
was just waiting for me to slam him; he’s playing well now.
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Yeah, that last little turn around was very nice
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Adelman has to be going crazy
when they actually run their sets and pass the ball, they get good shots. Unfortunately they only do it about 1 in 4 trips down.
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Fouls have evened up a lot in the second half
I think it was 13 Portland fouls to 6 Houston fouls at one point. 20-15 now.
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a little fire
and emotion from the big guy too.
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Wow
that was a great post and shot by Yao, literally completely unstoppable.
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Rockets going to Yao at the right time
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Great game
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Portland getting killed on the offensive boards
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very nice decision by bad-Ron
that was a good play.
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10 offensive rebounds in the 4th Q by Houston?
did I hear that right?
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I think so.
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and 6 of 12 Portland TOs in the 4th
youth rears its ugly head.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the rare team where it doesn't
And usually that team has a key veteran helping the young guys along.
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Offensive foul
wow!
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good call
he was set, and the block was clean. Nice D.
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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 26, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That
was a hell of a defensive play by Hayes and Battier.
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Aaron Brooks
one more for the win.
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the Blazers season
has a very, very faint pulse.
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Good game
Rockets may finally get out of the 1st round.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Tracy McGrady's contribution
clearly has made the difference
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Wait a second
Rudy with the 3!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
No more time outs for Portland?
gonna be tough
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TNT showing Sam Cassel
doing the balls dance against the Kings. He should’ve kept the guy, I tell you
Why?
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Oh
Yeah, no thanks.
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This season was crappy enough
Don’t need Cassell’s dancing to be an actual highlight.
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Must win game for NO
and they’re down 21-8 in the 1st. Not good.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
36-15 Nuggs after one
and the Hawks up 44-25 in the 2nd. Blow-out day in the NBA
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 27, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
wow...
great final two minutes of the first half for the Heat…from 44-25 to 46-42!
Supporting Kings from Italy since....forever!
Go Kings!
I think it's safe to say that NO quit
Final game will be interesting. See what kind of pride they have, or desire to keep their coach.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 27, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
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