Weekend Playoff Thread
by Tom Ziller on May 1, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
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PrintHawks vs Heat, Game 6 on Friday.
Bulls vs Celtics, Game 7 on Saturday.
Mavericks vs Nuggets, Game 1 on Sunday.
Final MVP Blogger Rankings Monday. Promise.
Beginning of the Sactown Royalty Draft Board Monday. Double promise.
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the series I'm interested in
I’m rooting for Bibby and the Hawks to take down the Heat as well as Chicago knocking out the Celts. Also predicting Cavs-Lakers championship with hopes that LeBron will stomp on the [….].
same here
i still love watching Bibby play
and how can Rondo not get suspended after slapping someone and then pushing someone into the score bench? he’s a dirty player, and i hate to see that shit.
and i would love to see a Lakers-Cavs finals and watch the King go to town on the Rapist
YAHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 1, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't mind Redacted not reaching the finals.
A Houston-Cleveland Series would be pretty fun too.
damn glad you said that
and how can Rondo not get suspended after slapping someone and then pushing someone into the score bench? he’s a dirty player, and i hate to see that shit
I so much want to vent on the NBA and wish that they were exposed for such heinous crimes. This situation with Rondo just goes to show once again how bias that guy Stern is. He can’t have Rondo suspended because Boston would lose and that wouldn’t make the millions very happy. I too hate Rondo because of his dirty plays and Boston’s D is only good because they get away with so much (hence, never bought into the Boston bandwagon). That’s two strikes now against the NBA just on Rondo. On top of that I heard an ESPN commentator give props to the refs for making the ‘correct call’ on that punch he threw because it didn’t land. Wow, I totally buy into that. Seriously, can the league get any worse than this? Oh yeah I remember now, last playoff season Horry and two or three Phoenix players got suspended because Horry shoved Nash to the tables. That suspension I believe costed Phoenix’s championship that year. I guess they came to regret suspending Horry because it was an irrational call by the refs.
+1
It’s a total sham. The intent was there. If someone threw a punch at someone’s face, would it make any difference if it hit their face or not? It doesn’t, since the intention is still the same. I bet if Rondo’s elbow hit Kirk, Stern still wouldn’t have suspended Rondo.
These are the moments I live for
Blue Moon in the kegerator. Bulls/Celts on TNT. Regardless of what else is going on, these are the moments that a basketball fan lives for.
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No kidding
I hope this game lives up to the rest of the series!
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
bleh
Blue Moon is nasty. Sorry G.
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Well
If you had Fat Tire it wouldn’t be….
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Fat Tire is the devil
Sorry, I just associate it with douchebags in Boulder, CO. I had some buddies who went to CU, and everytime I visited there was nothing but idiots pining for Fat Tire.
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Hehe
Nothing but idiiots in Em City fiending for it too. Although, Mac & Jacks is basically the same beer if you ask me.
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yeah based outta Redmond WA (where Microsoft is)
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On a serious note G
Regarding the email, if you need any research on specifics let me know. I’ll be glad to assist.
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I always knew you were a commie
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
A battle again so far
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Chicago doesn't want to let House get hot
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Always been curious Kfan
What’s your time difference? Like, what time is it there right now?
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Sunday morning 10:00
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok
I always wondered if you were watching games at 3am or something.
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That will be tomorrow's games
hate the afternoon games.
For regular games it’s a pretty ideal situation for me. I work afternoons and the games are on in the mornings.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what you get for being a stinky Korean
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Watching games at 3/4 am is what you get for being a stinky Italian!
Supporting Kings from Italy since....forever!
Go Kings!
Not to be ignorant
But nobody has any problems stinking if they put their mind to it. (Or not)
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Mikki Moore just got hit by Brad Miller
Funny as shit if you ask me.
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Wow
20-2 Boston run.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Bulls aren't running their offense
If they actually have one.
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Vinny D
When I was in 8th grade, I spent a week at the Vinny Del Negro basketball camp (right before I moved from Sacto to Colorado). My take is that he’s a guy who knew how to play, but didn’t have a great grasp on how to relate the game to others. Really nice guy, and I’m not going to speak poorly of him, but I’m just not sure if he was ready to be a head coach. That’s what I think causes the breakdowns we see from Chicago.
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I see your reason to be hesitant
But still, has VDN proved to be a quality head coach yet?
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You know me
Usually I’m very willing to be the asshole and rip people apart. I guess it’s just harder when you’ve met someone and see them as a good person.
Maybe that’s why professional journalists have such a tough time being objective with certain hometown coaches or players.
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I think people are way too hard on him
It’s his first year, his team is in the playoffs and playing well. It’s a young team, you think some of their problems could have something to do with that?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
However
He has had issues with his management of timeouts. Can’t be overlooked.
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That's a tough criticism
because you can’t know if the team would be in the game if he hadn’t used the timeouts earlier. Doc ran out of timeouts in one of the games, and not a word was said.
Is it better to have timeouts at the end of the game and be down by 10 or have no timeouts and a chance to tie or win?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
They aren't running any real offense either
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4th foul on Perkins
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Major factor
But the Bulls haven’t been taking advantage of their opportunities. Story of the game.
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Interesting
TNT is commenting on the similarities between Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. Moving without the ball, creating opportunities. Interesting because of this:
“Everyone talks about Rip and Reggie running around and getting open; Allen’s the same, but efficient about it” (guest paraphrased)
That was posted on FreeDarko’s Twitter about an hour ago
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14 Turnovers for Chicago
Down by 8. I’d say those TOs are a factor.
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Still a game
but Chicago has been looking like us – not passing the ball
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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Gordon and Salmons
to be expected
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicago won the quarter
33-26. Even without the last couple of shots they were hanging in there.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Lot of credit to Chicago
They could’ve folded many times in this series, and nobody would’ve made too big a deal out of it. But they’ve fought at every turn.
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Should Vinnie get some credit there?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Taunting call is stupid
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Interesting thought
Can you imagine this Bulls team if they had landed D’Antoni?
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he's probably kicking himself
course all will be ok if they land LeBron.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy to forget
Chicago had like a 1.6% chance of getting that number one pick, and D’Antoni went to NY before the lottery.
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yeah,
he could’ve waited til after the lottery to sign though eh?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
big payday difference with NY over Chi-town
might as well get paid more with the challenge of rebuilding in the biggest market, not a bad consolation. Further, more confidence long term with GM Walsh than with GM Paxson.
by betweentheeyes on May 3, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
6 minutes to go 6 point game
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
now a 5 point game
Since when can officials make a correction mid-game, but well after the play in question?!
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Yeah, that's pretty weird
good thing they didn’t hold that point until the last seconds of a tie game or something.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
They reviewed a call last game
just like the one that lost us a game at the end of the season that had nothing to do with an ‘end of quarter’ play
different rules with this crew I guess
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonus point for the Bulls
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Pass the ball!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
I didn't see the T on Brad there
whacked at the ball – sorry the guy has a bad shoulder but. . . .
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He didn't whack the ball
he whacked his arm. They called a double T, which is silly since Perkins did nothing.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
must have said something serious
I still don’t think its a T
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by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
again it was a double T
I wouldn’t have called it, but the refs are trying to make sure it doesn’t get out of hand and it was a hard foul by Brad.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I said "at" the ball
but I know you want to come back on any comment I make
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
not true
I don’t think he was going for the ball. He was just fouling hard. He hit him up near the bicep, that’s not at the ball. sorry.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
so hitting a guy on the arm who is going up for a shot is now a T?
then every foul is
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
It wasn’t a T on Brad. It was a double T. That doesn’t cost either team anything. It’s just the refs trying to keep the hard fouls and emotions in check.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Eddie House
wow. 4 threes
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Thats his specialty
getting it done
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Last Chicago posession
That’s what they need to do. Quick ball movement, don’t use too much time, find a quick, clean shot.
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Dumb foul by Hinrich there
after a big 3
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
He is
Wanna guess what BaB is arguing about right now? (Gordon’s selfishness.)
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Are you kidding me?
Who else do you want to have the ball with the game on the line? The guy has been money!
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Brad Miller driving the lane of course
;p
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He got signed mid-season to be Derrick Rose's mentor
something like that.
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Terrible fans
Up by 6, the game ain’t over. Boston’s stupid bandwagon fans start chanting while Pierce is trying to shoot his second free throw.
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LOL @ that
Boston fans stupid? No way! I’m shocked!
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just about over
good series
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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steal
if he’d hit that 3. Wow
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
great shot of Pierce there
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah Great series
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That's it
very good series. Lot of good experience for the Bulls. They’ll be a factor next year.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Big decision to make on Ben Gorden
that changes the team a lot
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Problem is...
Somebody is going to overpay him. Might be Chicago, might be someone else. But after this series, he’s going to end up being overpaid.
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yes indeed
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as it isn't us
I’m ok with that.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
no chance i think
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by lietothegirls on May 2, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe maybe not G
Gotta remember only a few teams have cap room, and among them, only OKC might even be interested.
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Hopefully Chicago just lets Gordon go
he’s pretty much a chucker who takes shots away from Derrick Rose, Luol Deng, and John Salmons.. I really dislike Gordon’s game if nobody’s noticed.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
We disagree
Heartily. Gordon didn’t chuck to take shots away from other guys. He was doing it to help keep Chicago in the game. He was playing on a bad hamstring I might remind you.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Gordon is a chucker
has always been so, especially prior to the playoffs. He has eased up on it in the playoffs and since Salmons joined the team, but Gordon still shoots more unadvised shots than I’d like.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
Yeah, tough call
You want Gordon-Deng-Salmons? Who comes off the bench? Or do you go with Deng-Salmons or Gordon-Salmons and trade Deng?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it?
Does he provide the kind of shooting Gordon can provide?
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I don't know about the shooting
But the rotation becomes an issue if you’re trying to balance Salmons (notoriously not a great off-the-bench option), Deng (a guy being paid like a starter and major contributor) and Gordon (who would have a fresh contract paying him like a contributor)
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Probably goin to let Gordon walk
But if I was Chicago, I’d look to move Salmons.
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Probably the smartest move
His value will be high after game six, hes not being paid much, and Chicago could use a better inside option.
who from where?
is the question.
( i don’t disagree, you don’t keep them both)
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Gordon's a 2 guard
Salmons and Deng are small forwards, I think that’s where the move will come from. They’ll probably deal Deng.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on May 3, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I might remind
Other than Derrick Rose, who can the Bulls look to get their hoops? That’s maybe the difference between the Chris Paul Hornets in 2005-06 and this Bulls team.
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Dallas needs to score at the basket
getting/got killed in the paint.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Why is it....
….That there are so many ex-Kings playing in the playoffs? If they were so bad, why are they now on playoff teams? Salmons is a huge contribute to to the Bulls (44.7 mpg/18.1ppg). Miller is his usual liability. What did we get from Chicago for Salmons/Miller? They got Gooden, whom they waived and was playing on the Spurs in the playoffs. He played 18 minutes per in the playoffs and scored 7.3 ppg. Cap space I guess… Turkoglu played well for the Magic (37.2mpg/11.8 ppg) but the Magic lost anyway. Other Ex-Kings players starting or contributing in the Playoffs. Artest (36.8 mpg/15.7ppg) , and Bibby (35.7 mpg/15.5 ppg). We got a not so good first round draft pick #23 for Artest and we got nothing for Bibby except more cap space. Will the Kings use all the cap space they have accrued or are they just cutting costs and becoming a bargain basement team? Will Petrie have the freedom to complete the transformation from a bad team with bloated veteran contracts to a younger more athletic team with a reasonable cap number? This summer will define Petrie’s career if the Magoofs allow him to make the moves he needs to in order to make this team competitive. If no good free agents are signed, then we will know what the mindset of the Magoofs is. If no FA acquisitions are made, there will be even more empty seats next year at Arco. No matter where the Kings select, and what players they get with the 2 first rounders they have, the addition of quality free agents is a must! The Kings need a quality PG either from the draft or in free agency. Beno is the #1 reason the Kings played so poorly this year. Beno was horrible last year and PG is the MOST IMPORTANT position on the floor. If you dont have a good floor general, the rest of the team could be virtual all-stars and not win many games. Raymond Felton, Juan Carlos Navarro, and Andre Miller are the only decent Point Guards available in free agency. Not exactly a strong class of available free agents, but any of those players is better than Beno. There are also a few quality point guards available in the draft. If the Kings get the 1st overall they will select Griffin for sure. But if they get 2-4, do they select Rubio ? Also, there are several quality PG’s available at 24 according to most mock drafts. Darren Collison, Jrue Holiday, and Eric Maynor all might still be available at 24, and in the second round Nick Calathes, Toney Douglas and Jeremy Pargo might still be on the board. No matter how the Kings do it, they need a Point Guard upgrade before play starts in the Fall. A Trade is always possible, and the Memphis Grizleys have 3 good Point Guards available to trade. There are a lot of other Point Guards in the league that can do better than Beno did this year. I am not sure Beno can even be a quality bench player. Every other position on the Kings has a decent starter and backup, but the PG position is a mess. It makes you wonder WHY the Kings traded Bibby with no good options available. What did they get for that move other than the high 1st round draft pick?
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
Point guard play is critical in the modern NBA, yeah.
That’s why Rubio is higher on my board than Griffin.
Actually
The elite point guards (Paul, Williams, Parker, etc.) have gone fishing. Maybe the position is not as important as some think.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on May 3, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no avoiding that point
but there is also no avoiding that Paul, Williams, and Parker’s teams just weren’t as good; Paul’s team quit, there was no way Williams could beat the Lakers, and Parker only had Duncan at 80% against a Mavs team who was hot at the right time. You can’t really expect a player at any position to do the unthinkable that unless they had the right help.
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The enter/return button
is your friend.
Also, the Bibby trade netted cap room and a 2nd round pick, not first.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
OK
Thanks didn’t remember the Kings getting a 2nd rounder. That might be a pretty poor pick because of how well the Hawks played this year. I could see the Kings taking Rubio instead of Griffin, but the National Media would tear Petrie a new one. The Kid better be the second coming of Pete Marivitch. Besides, it seems to me that Petrie is going to take a player that will help the Kings right away, not a player that may take a coupla years to develop, being this is a contract year for Petrie. I guess with 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders, the Kings are bound to find a serviceable point guard.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
The national media would have torn the Blazers a new one if they took Durant over Oden,
But the Blazers would be laughing all the way to the second round instead of sitting at home with a second year rookie who contributed almost nothing in the Playoffs.
Nah dude-
the pick was for last year.. it’s why the Kings had Sean Singletary AND Patrick Ewing Jr.
I do agree that whoever we draft with our first pick needs to be a star (that is if that’s your point).
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We could have gotten more for Miller,
but you kept calling him a pile of dung.
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To be fair, he didn't help matters with his play
His defense was garbage in the Boston/Chicago series as well.
Yea, same old Miller
He is what he is. A player who is closer to retirement every time he suits up. I think we were lucky to get rid of him. His contract was worth WAY more than his skills justified. I am really concerned with the way Salmons played and how little we got for him.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
Wait..
A player who is closer to retirement every time he suits up
I’m pretty sure that’s the same for every player.. even Dikembe Mutombo.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
I am going to root for Houston tomorrow
I know it is a hell of a long shot, but I would love to see Adelman bring home a ring. The Maloofs might be a lot more apt to think twice when medaling in coaching decisions.
Boston down 18 in game 1
They either really like giving themselves a high degree of difficulty or they are going to be in big trouble in this series.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Turned into a pretty good game
but Orlando holds on for a 5 point win.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you watching ripped feeds
Or were you able to buy a postseason package too?
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I bought the package
They have an HD option, that I got and it’s really nice. On full screen the picture quality on my nice monitor rivals my standard TV other than it’s a couple of inches smaller.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That's cool
Must be worth it too.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Looks like a huge win for the Rox
Ron letting the offense come to him, gutsy performance for Yao, a flaming pile of Theus game for Kobe and this series may end up turning on PG play. Brooks with a very nice game.
Really like the move by Adelman to put in both PGs when Phil went with Kobe at SF.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Great win by the Rockets
Just got home from a 13 hour work day and nothing makes me feel better than seeing the Lakers lose.
We hire Phil Jackson for next season?
Kobe cements his place in history as not the next MJ?
The world economy crumbles as 1.2 billion Chinese burn their country to the ground in celebration?
All of the above?
Anything is possible.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
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