The Case for Tom Thibodeau
(From the FanPosts. - TZ)
Tom Thibodeau is not a coaching option. He has no experience. He has no championship rings. He may or may not be able to dunk the ball. He's starting to go bald (a little), and is therefore not sexy enough. Clearly, this paragraph is all crap - we know bald is beautiful baby, Boston defense sure as hell won a championship ring, and he has had lots of experience. Just not the head coaching kind.
While I originally intended to do an exhaustive performance study, I'm not really that kind of guy. And truthfully, I can't really say how much of a defensive addition he's been to most teams, because he's mostly coached with JVG, and I'm not sure how to seperate his performance from Jeffs. Instead, I choose to stare dreamingly at the Google image search of "Tom Thibodeau," "Coach Thib," "Thibodeau coaching" and "Coach Thib upskirt." While these searches revealed various characteristics of the man, the myth, the not-yet-a-legend, it also made one thing exceedingly clear. It showed the truth behind the fire that supports the defense his teams are known for.
How does this man instill that defensive intensity? The intensive defensive is a careful result of the pensive perspective. In less rhymetastic fashion: mean-mugging is the Coach Thib way. The indisputable visual evidence:
The man is not happy on the sidelines when the opposing team has the ball, furious when the opposing point guard is dribbling up the court, and downright incendiary when the opposing big man has the ball on the block (DENY THE POST POSITION). The man is only happy watching his defense crush your opponents offense, and that only results in a sneer. Stare into that face, then tell him you don't want to play defense. I dare you. LOOK INTO THOSE EYES AND SAY IT. Science now allows us to examine the raw fire emanating from this eyes. First I must warn all those who have performed Lasik surgery*, are pregnant, have sensitivity to heat or are shorter than Eric Musselman to look away - you can't ride this ride. Now, an infra-red image of the man's face:
The man is hot fire, he looks through the player and cooks out the man. Unformed dough turns into bread in this man's presence, and not just wonderbread, I'm talking whole grain, baby. Look at him - he's melting through your screen - DON'T TOUCH IT! And if you think that's hot:
LOOK AT THAT - el hombre es muy caliente. As our second-favorite Dominican Al Horford would say: Fuego! Only straight sexy can rock a mullet on national television. Yeah, that was in Houston, what can I say - THE MAN KNOWS TRENDS.
Why do I want Tom Thibodeau? He's not just a defense man; He's a defense, man. I don't know if you're paying attention to the Magic-Celtics series, but they're playing great defense without Kevin Garnett. Kendrick Perkins is locking down Dwight Howard. Locking. Dwight. Down. Rajon Rondo is one of the better perimeter defenders in the L. Hell, even Glen Davis can slow Rashard Lewis, and he's got enough baby fat for the entire Magic roster.
Having Thibodeau as coach is singlehandedly the fastest, most effective way to change the defensive tenacity of this roster. The coaching change would be more effective than any roster additions through draft or free agency. He's not just a coach that will teach defense, he's a coach that will make this team defend. When you have a roster of gifted offensive players, you don't need an offensive-minded coach. When you've got an offensive system in place, with the man who created it teaching your players, you don't need an offensive-minded coach. Why draft Thabeet when you can turn Hawes into a defensive beast (we know he has the toolset!). Should Martin be doomed to be forever known as a defensive liability? Finally, can a brother play Donté?
Now I know he's got no head coaching experience. Apparently he's good with communicating with players, but we know this already (the eyes - NO ONE CAN DENY THE EYES!). I have little evidence to show he's good at developing young players. Selecting him would mean the Kings would need to invest heavily in a supporting staff. Which is fine, the more teachers for the kids, the better. But let's play some defense, man.
*If you have had the surgery performed on you, stare away. But you optometrists better beware.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Thibodeau doesn't seduce me as a head coach
But I love the fanpost IW.
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm with you Pookey-
I fear one way coaches without head coaching experience. Eddie Jordan is an offensive specialist but he still has had to implement an defensive scheme as a head coach. Without knowledge of Thibodeau as an offensive strategist, I fear the Kings would be the place for him to make his mistakes and then get run out of town only to return with another team as a seasoned genius.
I do love the post IW. The circling of the “Kentucky Waterfall” is priceless.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
To be fair
I’m not completely awestruck with Coach Thib, nor do I endorse him as the sole candidate. But I do hope to drum up some interest in him and other coaching choices. I can say I am in the “gamble on a coach” camp, as long as the coach being gambled on is a Petrie decision. SVG, Jordan are also acceptable choices, but man I wish we could get a hybrid of the two (messina? I worry about his handling of the NBA player temperament though).
I respect jj’s concern for the offensive inability, but to be fair, here’s the truth of my bottom line: Boston’s offense is terrible. Terrible. Doc River’s can’t coach any better than the year they lost 18 in a row. However, the defense mitigates a crap offense significantly. It gives fast break oppurtunities and second chance points. You don’t really need to coach offense when you have offensively talented players. Institute some rules and a basic system (hello Princeton offense), then just put them out there and let them do what they do. Assuming you’ve established good chemistry in the offense, and have your fair share of distributors and scorers, the team will work itself out. Having a coach that’s not involved in every possession leads to a more successful team. Popovich, Adleman, Jackson – they’re just chilling on the bench most of the time. Their work is done before the game, during practice and late nights in the tape room. Come game time, you gotta let the players do what they do, or they’ll just resent you.
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I wonder
Who would win a stare down between Coach Thib and this guy?
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Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Good post
I’m unsure whether we can take the chance this year if we have a choice
But you know I’d be lovin’ some D!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Give Thibodeau
a good offensive coach and I’d totally warm up to him.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
Thibodeau with 1st assistant John Thompson III
Coachie like Thompson’s version of the Princeton & how he works in the bigs.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
dude!
Great idea, but would he consider leaving Georgetown?
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Couldn't say, but if he every thought about being a NBA coach here's a start
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
even messina as an assistant would work
but would he leave the headjob in europe for the assistjob in the NBA?
You do bring up a great idea, though, of bringing in one of the more gambled choices as a lead assistant. Gamble twice reduce the risk! Parlaying with coaching candidates, baby, I dig it, I dig it!
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I believe that Israeli coach has more experience with the Princeton
Cant remember his name, but he’s from the State but moved to Europe.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
But we have an offensive coach
He coached the second half of the season if you didn’t notice — Pete Carrill. I love this post; I’ve also been a fan of Thibodeax since the last coaching search. He has higher upside than Westphal and Jordan and I think would be as cheap.
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on May 18, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
He's technically a consultant
and getting up there in years – I’m not even sure if he travels with the team. I know he’s there as an educator, which is perfect in my opinion, as I don’t mind giving another, younger coach the chance to achieve his coaching potential.
Honestly, the more coaches the better. I think Thib has the personality (he has the intensity!) to settle the various voices in his office and make decisions, allowing the team the full benefit of multiple educators and basketball opinions.
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I would rather Carril work with Donte daily more than teach the Princeton
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'd rather him work with everybody daily
by teaching the Princeton.
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I'd rather bash your brain in with a spoon
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It wouldn't be as tasty
Gotta get yourself one of these Mr. Potatohead.
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Nice post!
and Thibodeau would make for an excellent head coach. I really believe that.
Unfortunately, the thing about only considering candidates with winning track records is to a large degree a PR move. Because the fact is that whoever coaches the Kings next year is going to lose quite a few games, and a “proven winner” will (in theory) be able to withstand the mounting pressure of those losses.
If Eddie Jordan starts out 16-25, well, everybody will cut him some slack. If Tom Thibodeau or Mario Elie, etc; have that kind of record at mid-season there would be rumblings about “damn… this is Musselman and Theus all over again!”
Sad but true.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
If anyone starts off next season 16-25 with this team
they’ll be throwing him a parade.
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
maybe you meant
6-25? 16-55?
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
Ha... Now Mucho Moss is the optimist!
You may or may not recall, ForThree, but I got a fair amount of grief around here last summer for suggesting that (in a worst case scenario) the Kings might be headed for a 20 win season.
I probably am being generous in the wins I just alloted to Coach Thibadeau (or whoever it turns out to be), although it’s worth considering that free agency plus the influx of Brandon Jennings or Tyreke Evans will be another couple of steps forward.
Still, sure, until further notice in July, put me down for 16-55. ;>)
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
Yeah
Arco’s a leaky old barn.
Ok, people, let's generate all the good Karma we can until May 19. Then you can go back to your shallow and empty lifestyles.
by LeaguePassAddict on May 20, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Not going to lie
I had this team down for at least 30 wins. This season was despicable. Bad injuries, bad effort, bad coaching. How to fix that? Coach that’ll make his players give effort and defend, and make the best with happen with what he’s got.
Coach Thib, Ladies and Gentleman.
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