Ricky Rubio Game 2. Spanish PlayOffs

by Matenja on May 18, 2009 1:36 PM PDT Comment 34 comments

He played off the bench with this his box score:

16 points
4/8 FG (1/3 3's)
5/6 FT
7 rebounds (4 offensive, 3 defensive)
6 assists
4 steals
6 turnovers
1 block
3 fouls against
6 fouls for
24 points of valuation (the best of the game)

This kind of games are normal in Ricky. I hope see other great game in the Game 3.

What's the opinion about Ricky's game now? He shows his quiality to everybody in this game

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Thanks for the box score Matenja

Is points of valuation like the +/- they use in the NBA??

by eduardo_m7 on May 18, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

You might want to ask him that in Spanish ed

He can probably explain it, but he isn’t great at writing in English in part cuz he’s literally Spanish.

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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I mean ed

Matenja lives in Spain.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

it’s a kind of efficiency rating stats that I don’t really understand

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on May 18, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's why I don't understand it

It’s got a different rating system than +/-. +/- system is very simple to understand.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correct. The formula is:

PTS + AST + REB + BLK + STL + PFs suffered + FTM+ 2PTSMade + 3PTSM – TO – BA – PF – FTA – 2PTSAttempted – 3PTSA

It became popular more due to a very successful fantasy type of game (supermanager) than exactly due to its statistical value (that it’s meaningless).

by cordobes on May 18, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

6 turnovers!

I guess we can call him “Spanish Chocolate”. :)

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by otis29 on May 18, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I like spanish hot chocolate...is he like that?

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on May 18, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

without the turnovers. With the turnovers, its merely a great stat line. I give him extra credit for playing while injured and his team winning while he was playing and getting blown out when he wasn’t.

Also, I think that Rubio won’t have as much a problem with turnovers in the NBA as he does in Europe since almost every time I read a Rubio game theres a few instances where its “Rubio passes, some guy fumbles it”. I think the athletic skill level and more practicing and playing with his team in the NBA will lead to more caught passes. I’m more impressed by the 7 rebounds and 4 steals in this stat line than anything else.

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by Aykis16 on May 18, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He did this all in 30 mins too Aykis

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep. Off the bench coming off an injury.

We need to get Kenny traded dammit so Ricky can wear number 9.

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by Aykis16 on May 18, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Potential #1 draft pick vs. Woof...

The kid is gettin’ nueve…

by Mcamp49 on May 18, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How long are his arms?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 18, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Reportedly he has a 6-9 wingspan

According to this link: http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ricky-rubio-nba-draft-profile-163577

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by Aykis16 on May 18, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I couldn't find numbers on a few sites

but most people list his “Great wingspan” in his strengths.

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by Aykis16 on May 18, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

~ I was joking ~

since we can no longer complain that Griffin is short
- oh, never mind!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 18, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Rec’d your first comment. It always sucks having to explain the joke, eh?

You could have said something like “I wouldn’t be surprised if Rubio is 6’2” in his socks, but 5’11" with a shaved head, and his armlength is roughly that of a third grader."

That shit would have gone green my brotha.

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by otis29 on May 19, 2009 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be Lying if I said the Assist-to-Turnover Ratio Didn't Bother Me.

But I’d also be lying if I said I was dissuaded by it.

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by PhutureKings on May 18, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

motherlover.

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by iashwash on May 18, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Assist to Turnover

Couple of things to keep in mind:

1. As Aykis mentions above, there seems to be a lot of stories of Rubio making a pass, and the guy has trouble catching it. Could mean that turnovers will decrease with higher quality teammates, or it could mean he needs to make his passes more precise so that the guy has a better chance at catching it. Personally I think it will be more of the former than the latter, but it could go either way.

2. European scorekeepers tend to be stingier with Assist than NBA or NCAA scorekeepers. Assists should see a significant increase with the move to the NBA.

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by Exhibit G on May 18, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Related to your first point

Current roster of Joventut is really far from great and only few players are able to create their own shot or/and are great finishers. Rubio often takes risk he did not have to take last year (for example because of the presence of Rudy Fernandez) just so the team has a chance to score, many of his penetrations are blocked as he has noone to pass the ball to etc.

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on May 18, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not only that KFfCE

If you look at his stats, his Assist to Turnover ratio went, with Rudy Fernandez on the team, from 1.16 to 1 (assist to turnover), and this year, 2.1 to 1.

Today’s game meant he had to make a lot of plays, and the fact he played 30 mins greatly says something in my opinion.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

You can see Jerome Moiso, 49% careet shooter from the field in NBA and 59% in his first year in Spain (for Real Madrid) shooting 65% in two years with Rubio (partly after offensive rebounds, partly due to Rubio’s passes)

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on May 18, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

e.g. Calderon

Calderon in his best and last regular season in the ACB got 3.13 assist per game after playing 30 minutes per game). So Ricky’s 6.14 APG in regular season are very impressive in his 23 MPG.

by Bend3r on May 19, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Calderon also shot a ton better too

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's true...

…but we were talking about assist in Europe and in the NBA.

by Bend3r on May 19, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

Ricky’s a terrific passer and so was Calderon. But the difference is Calderon was 24 when he made the jump. Ricky will barely be 19 by the time the season starts.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same here

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by submison on May 18, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is quite interesting

and very useful to see so many people here watching the game as I did not have time today but what about other player mentioned in terms of drafts, Sergio Llull? From the boxscore, he seeme to have struggled, is that right?

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on May 18, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And this is really the final question

I see from the boxscore that Raul Lopez (the starting pointguard of Madrid) scored 16 points /second-best of his team/ despite playing only 26 minutes as he fouled out. That means a) what about Rubio’s defense on him and b) what about his defense on Rubio, i.e. did he quickly foul out on Rubio?

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on May 18, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And finally

Rubio’s season highs are 18 points, 8 rebounds, 12 assists and 6 steals (in different games, of course). It seems nice that he reaches his maximum in the most important games (even injured and with slightly limited time)

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on May 18, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

30 mins is alot though KFfCE

That’s not small time for a guy in the ACB.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And coming off an injury lest we forget.

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by Aykis16 on May 18, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rubio updated his Tweeter (he tweeted I guess)

He just says he’s resting after a tough game. Tomorrow he has treatment on his hip injury as he kinda ‘re-injured it.’ He also thanks the crowd for the support.

I’ve been reading a couple of his updates and he sounds like a really good kid has a really good head on his shoulders, especially considering all the hype he gets.

by eduardo_m7 on May 18, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs