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by Ziller on May 19, 2009 5:55 PM PDT
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Didn’t anyone think sending #4 to the draft lottery was a bad idea?
by sactown on May 19, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well considering there wasn’t an opportunity for him to choke under pressure I didn’t have a problem with it. But I guess his aura tainted it.
by tony_flow on May 19, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He couldn't do it for Washington when he had the chance.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CWebb did choke
He shoulda called timeout after Memphis moved into the top 3…
by AnotherStupidSN on May 20, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is a f**%#I*^#&$^ good point.. I WANT TO KILL MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!
by SacKings4Life on May 19, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...F
Why didn’t you bring this up earlier?
by chilibean_3 on May 19, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know that book "The Secret?"
it’s bullshit. I even lowered my expectations to thinking positive thoughts about the number 2 pick.
When was the last good day Kings fans have had?
by Artestify! on May 19, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well. . .i guess we can now look forward to
the 2010 draft :p
man. . .this feel worse than getting hammered by 40
by Spoz of Oz on May 19, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
see yah….gonna go jumpoff the arco rooftop now
by roberteffenhorry on May 19, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wait for me.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on May 19, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Un-fucking-believable
And I sure as hell don’t want that dude from Conn. Time for GP to earn his money. Any chance of us moving up for Rubio? Let me rephrase that: Is there a realistic strategy for moving up from #4 to #2? (I’m assuming Rubio goes #2, which I think is accurate.)
by Kusian on May 19, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm writing something up Kus
Look on EC Inc (just click the link here) for some theories on that.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In about 30 mins
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not feasibly, we would possibly have to give up both our first round picks and a player. You can look at it this way though, Memphis drafted Mike Conley in 2007 and aren’t probably looking to draft a guard since he has started to show signs of major potential. Not to mention they are pretty stacked at the guard position anyway. OKC drafted Westbrook last year and might be looking to acquire a big man such as Hasheem Thabeet. This possibly leaves Rubio at 4 (hopefully). That’s pending if one of these two teams don’t decide to trade down. Either way, this is a PG heavy draft and I think the Kings will find a decent player at that position if they don’t opt to try and sign one in free agency.
by candlestickparklegends on May 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
by lodisacfan on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well. . .considering it's the clippers at #1
that pretty much means we have #3 yeah ?!
by Spoz of Oz on May 19, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One positive development...
This effectively kills the Rubio v. Griffin debate. P.S: RIP Blake Griffin’s promising career. If Mike Dunleavy can’t destroy this man, then he’s a g.d. terminator.
by BarnesyardSportsManagement on May 19, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ya no joke
They will more then likely take Griffin and he will be taking orders from one of the worst coaches in the league and learning the position from Zach Randolph.
by jstnblke41 on May 19, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god
learning the position from Zach Randolph
Dooooooooom!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 19, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio better pray the Griz don't draft him.
That would be a nightmare scenario for him, as well.
by Deleran on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's probably on the phone with Marc Gasol right now
RR: “Marc I’m coming to play with you in Memphis”
MG: “NO DON’T!”
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on May 19, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Spain will bomb Memphis.
Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol, Juan Carlos Navarro, and now Rubio.
by Deleran on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they don't have any plans, they should start. Spanish players seem to stagnate there.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on May 19, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
man...that whole crappy season and we get fourth
by kingsfan300 on May 19, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame you.
Unfortunately, I think I can.
Sacramento Kings Forever!
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 19, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully the clippers screw things up and instead picks Taylor Griffin…..
by pakyubai on May 19, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
God does everything for a reason...
next year john wall wil be ours.
by HarbirD on May 19, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
and he can play for the Ananheim Kings
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 19, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really dont want to wait til '10
This season was hard enough, I have no desire to go through it again thinking a #1 pick will make it any better. I just hope something good comes out of this but right now its really hard to be positive
by Hilton on May 19, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut Up...
First of all not everyone believes in God (like me), and secondly a supreme deity could give two shits about pro hoops.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on May 19, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree
How can God NOT be a Kings fan?!!?
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 19, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling sorry for Blake Griffin more than anyone else.
I have to go write a fanpost.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 19, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
or...
…perhaps the Clippers mistakenly select the mythological “griffin”? Work with me, entire universe!
by BarnesyardSportsManagement on May 19, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
With the first pick
in the 2009 NBA draft, the Clippers select…
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on May 19, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
C-Webb = number 4. 4 years ago = 2005. 2005 = CP3 4th Pick.
…………………..
Its the best i could do..
: – (
by sdfd on May 19, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sometimes...
God’s reason is fucking witchoo.
by BarnesyardSportsManagement on May 19, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
God had nothing to do with this
But if he wants to let the Nuggets win, that’d be cool.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 19, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully Rubio will be unable to buy out of his euro contract now….haha?
by roberteffenhorry on May 19, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Clippers?!
At least the OKC conspiracy is over. Time to draft Jennings re-sign Diogu.
by rc360 on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do the same fucking teams always win this shit?
by EWEEZY on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhh. :(
Blessings.Love.Peace
by lifestyleforthesellout on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully rubio falls to number 3 and get can trade up with the grizzlies i mean they did give awaay pau gasol for kwame brown
by SacKings4Life on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
2010
john wall im jumping on the bandwagon now
by B-RAD on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Guys
Sorry for your loss.
Blogging at RidiculousUpside, where we converse with recently fired mascots.
by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting thing though is that Memphis has conley and OKC has westbrook… so hopefully the team that picks rubio would somehow trade one of there point guard.. or maybe not…grrrrrrr
by pakyubai on May 19, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Neither of those teams need cap relief
And thats the best we could offer. Petrie isn’t gonna trade a future first round, he doesn’t believe the draft is good enough.
by Deleran on May 19, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On my s***list:
-ping pong balls
-Donald Sterling
-the tweedy guy who unsealed the draft lottery envelopes
-God
-Ricky Rubio (still!)
-percentages
-other religions’ God
-the smoke monster
by BarnesyardSportsManagement on May 19, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wah
wah
Bring Chris Bosh to California!!!
by Shizzo on May 19, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Portland Blazer fan here
And I feel bad for you guys, but I do have 2 positive things to say:
1) Let the John Wall watch begin, he woulda been #1 if he was allowed in this years class, so getting him as your consolation prize next year won’t be bad.
2) If you guys draft Harden at #4 I think he has a real chance to be the best player in this draft. As a Blazer fan I look at him over and over again and can’t stop thinking of how similar he is to Brandon Roy, you could do far worse than getting Brandon Roy with your #4 pick.
Hope things pick up, good luck next year, and of course: BEAT LA.
by diskord on May 19, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, sir.
I sure hope you’re right.
by jveezy on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3??
The question is whether or not Hardxen can play the 3 at the NBA level.
Thanks for the optimistic approach though-
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is the next Roy
send Martin to the bench. Hinrich style.
by sdfd on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
martin for #2 overall (rubio)
draft harden
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
by lodisacfan on May 19, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
If Harden can even provide 80% of what Martin does . . . is this worth it?
Rubio > Udrih
Harden < Martin
Which is greater?
Rubio/Harden OR Udrih/Martin
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think harden is undersized for his position. 6’4? He’s good but unless he trasitions to the 1 idk. I think Tyreke Evans is a better choice here.
by candlestickparklegends on May 19, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify
I’m not advocating anyone specific with the #4 pick at the moment, just looking at all possibilities.
If Harden really was the next Roy, then drafting him and trading Martin for Rubio would be a net gain.
For the record I had conversations about trading Martin even if the Kings got the #1 . . . you should NEVER exclude any options.
The only UNTRADABLE player in the L is King James . . . and even then if the Cavs win the title and he says he won’t return after his contract expires, trading him for long-term pieces might even be feasible.
So again, no untouchables.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Roy played twice as athletic as Harden was in college
I don’t want 12 points a game for a career with the number 4 pick if its a shooting guard. I’m sorry I’m mean, but I’m sure you can understand.
by jstnblke41 on May 19, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i kinda have this thought too...
we draft Harden and that frees up the trade of KMart for something better?
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on May 19, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Harden is the next Roy. I rather think Roy will get a number of players like him picked too high
“Hey, he is not overly athletic but crafty. Look at what Roy is doing in the NBA…”
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy IS athletic
Dude has a 40" vertical, after all.
He just only uses it when he needs to.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 20, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the lowest moment in the history of the Sacramento Kings
This season was officially a waste
by mc barbarian on May 19, 2009 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know when you hit it
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Absolutley appropriate...
I picked a bad time to stop drinking. I’m going to the store now.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
by CAB on May 19, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That kind of looks like Adam Morrison
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does it say John Wall?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on May 19, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kfaaaaaaan!
Comment stealer.
I knew I shouldn’t have wasted time formatting.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foreshadowing?
Well, it does say “Wall” in that picture . . . and yes, I know that’s a reach.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I CANT HELP BUT THINK...........................
The NBA likes shitting on SAC anytime possible.
I agree this season now feels like more than a waste…
by SACRAZY on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheer up
Three years ago the Blazers sucked rocks, had the #4 pick…and came away with Roy and Aldridge.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our franchise is in danger of moving
Yours wasn’t. San Jose Kings?
by Deleran on May 19, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers were up for sale at the time weren't they?
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
PA did sell the Rose Garden, but the Blazers have some longstanding clause in their contract that says the team cannot be moved.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 20, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Allen did have the Blazers on the market for a while
They were tied to the Rose Garden with a lease; and to the city of Portland with an exclusive site agreement—but a fat lot of good that did the Sonics.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 20, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Options
Harden? Jennings? Evans? Holiday? all four have star potential. Or we could trade down and get 4+ players…
by KeonClark on May 19, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans...
I feel that with the way Tyreke Evan improved his game as the year went on he’ll continue to grow and mature as a ballplayer… I’d like to see him continue to grow and prepare himself for the draft….IF (which is a slightly big IF) he does this, I like him over Rubio / Jennings etc as the best PG in the draft-
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If everyone's going to keep crying over the 4th pick
then at least go cry over this
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on May 19, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like is picked the wrong week to stop sniffin' glue
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on May 19, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Fucking Clippers?!
The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?! The Fucking Clippers?!
Fuck the Clippers.
by The Ghost of Dick Bavetta on May 19, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
haven't heard anything for pookey for quite some time
i’m a little worried
by kingme on May 19, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm writing up something
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I even hope you read it
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pookey, step away from the edge. Slowly now... :-)
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on May 19, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's time to start drinking.
And I don’t think I’ll be back until the draft. This lotto disaster is just to much dissapointment to bear. I don’t know if I can even look you guys in the face.
by The Ghost of Dick Bavetta on May 19, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolut on the rocks
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
by CAB on May 19, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Keep it.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahahah.
"Umm - it was - you know - umm - a good game. You know."
-Patrick Ewing
by Thelonious Dunk on May 19, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope you guys get number 1 next year. the nba has screwed you over for a very long time.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm done as a kings fan, it's not worth it anymore
by KingsForLife on May 19, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
does that make you
kingsuntilwelosethelottery ?
The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give…Howard Cosell
by ForThree on May 19, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well...
Outside of the awfulness of getting the #4 pick, there is a bit of upside.
a) OKC will almost certainly take Thabeet with the 3 pick and eliminate that potential option from us.
b) Mike Conley is 21. Although he hasn’t played too well yet, young point guards rarely do. Memphis may elect to wait out on Conley rather than go through the whole process of watching a young PG struggle again. Plus Memphis’ biggest hole is clearly at the 4 spot – if they like Hill 4 would be a good spot to trade down to. Unfortunately, not sure what we trade up with other than our #23 and or #31…doubt they’d want Ike and doubt we’d want to trade Thompson/Hawes/Martin.
But this hurts so bad. It really does.
by coachtheus on May 19, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
also
Even if we don’t trade up, we choose from the best of the pack who’s not Griffin/Rubio/Thabeet. There are a LOT of good players out there. Chins up fellas.
by coachtheus on May 19, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
I think we can figure to see Jennings, Rubio or Evans (My top choice) as our starting 1 next year..
On the surface, were already clearly better than we were this year with Beno at the 1…However, if the Kings dont go with the 1……..It could get ugly-
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point actually
Given the lack of depth in this draft we are free to pick the best available talent for our needs.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 19, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep your heads up Sacramento
We got work to do!!!
by eduardo_m7 on May 19, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
Let’s start those Rubio rumors so that he drops a couple spots! I heard from his neighbor that his birth certificate is fake and that he’s actually 36.
by wabut on May 19, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, he's actually 5'9". He wears insoles.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on May 19, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
move back!
Kings send the 4th pick to Minnesota for the 6th and 17th.
by deepnu666 on May 19, 2009 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who...
Would Minnesota want/need at the 4 that they wouldnt get at the 6?
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But..
Isnt that exactly what were looking for at this point?
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...
But we’ve got GP and they don’t even have a GM at this point (unless I missed the hiring).
If they want Player X, and GP wants Player Y . . . that’s a WIN-WIN.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
But thats assuming the GM of the Wolves will call the Kings and tell them who they want… wont happen-
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously
Unless they REALLY want one over the other.
I’m just saying that these types of trades (2 for 4, 4 for 6, etc.) aren’t uncommon.
Recent Examples:
(2) Aldridge for (4) Thomas & Viktor Khryapa
(2) Okafor for (4) Livingston & #33 (pre-draft trade, which also included an expansion draft pick)
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loves that Aldridge trade
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on May 20, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can take advantage
- + Kenny Thomas + Nocioni for Al Jefferson!
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on May 19, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not a terrible idea
Dropping from 1 or 2 down to 6 wasn’t really an option, but from 4…
There’s a good chance that Jennings/Evans is still on the board, but you’d have to be ok missing out on both if you make this deal.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify
“THEIR CHOICE” of Jennings/Evans.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Memphis might be more enamored of Jordan Hill
They might really think he’s worth it at 4, but not at 2. If they can get rid of Marko Jaric, and get Kenny Thomas in the process, Memphis might think that savings is really worth it.
Just one example.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm listening...
I’d like for the Kings to make some moves (for the better, not just because).
I guess we may never know what GP would do with a #1. Since #1 didn’t fall in GP’s lap, it’s time to go to work.
Nothing is off the table at this point.
by smgmatt on May 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get why he should be a top #5 pick
Yes he remotely looks like Chris Bosh. But all his stats are worse than DeJuan Blair’s. Look it up on DraftExpress or so. Pace adjusted 40 minutes is a huge difference, and even in totals. And not just rebounds where Blair is a monster, also efficiency, steals, blocks, …
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats the probability that Sterling trades the #1 Pick?
I’d say of anone he is most likely.
" Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. "
by Bushka on May 19, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No Chance!!!!
Blake will sell a lot of seats for the Clips… Theyve been the Red-Headed stepchild in LA for too long.. they finally may have an exciting star to watch- (Baron didnt do the job)
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well happy birthday to me
Thanks a lot NBA. I should’ve guessed though I mean today is my 22nd.
by propane on May 19, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
DID YOU BLOW OUT YOUR CANDLES?
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'
by iashwash on May 19, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
K9 to OKC for Nenad Krstic, anyone?
Krstic or Collison and we swap picks?
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd Trade...
K9 for a bag of Cheetos right now
by Hoops916 on May 19, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd Trade.....
K9 for a Klondike Bar…..
that’s what I’d do for a Klondike Bar
by SACRAZY on May 19, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We get the big contract of a back-up center/pf, OKC sheds salary and picks up a big man with the 4th pick
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OKC is already way under the cap
Who are they looking to dump? Watson? Collison?
by Deleran on May 19, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now OKC is looking to upgrade their 5 spot. A rotation of Collison/Nenad is bad for them
Especially when both are being paid around 6mil/season respectively. If they shed one of those guys’ contracts, they’ll have approx $38 to $40 mil of salary next season (after picks), making them competitors for the 2010 FA market.
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, if the Griz are showing more interest in Thabeet (since they already have Conley), we'd have a chance at Rubio.
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree Cloudy
I think they would love Thabeet or Harden at the 3rd overall pick, or maybe even trade down a spot with Sacramento to get either.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Griz are picking 2nd
So, yeah, they might trade down. If not, they have a chance at picking Thabeet with the #2.
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do honestly believe the Kings have a great chance at moving up someway somehow
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always did in fact if the cards fell right
The Kings always had to have a worst case scenario, and frankly, I could have seen worse scenarios where the teams in front of them were absolutely going to take Griffin/Rubio/Jennings. That isn’t likely now.
That means, despite the Kings not finishing in the top 2 picks, they are still very much in this draft to get a player they feel can alter the course of the franchise. I believe. You all should too.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately for us, all of the teams above us have recently aquired or drafted a good PG. There are worse scenarios out there.
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much much worse scenarios
I could easily see the Kings getting Rubio for swapping Kenny Thomas for Marko Jaric. There are worse things than that aren’t there?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Natt being signed to a 5 year contract?
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's 1 LOL
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love having Marko Jaric, that would mean Adriana Lima being here in Sacramento. MMmmm…
by brianmc27 on May 19, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thas what I'm sayin'!
But then again I wouldn’t be all that sad with Jennings, too
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not either
Perk up people!
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKIG NEWS: Sterling Trades #1 Pick for #31 Pick
Cites Michael Olowikandi as reason.
by sdfd on May 19, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Screeeeewed
pack the trucks
(I mean it)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For some reason
I have a feeling GP isn’t gonna do a damn thing
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats what it looks like
‘someone’
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 19, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so fucking pissed
I decided to make an account just to say that.
by brianmc27 on May 19, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on May 19, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DX just updated their page
Jennings for us. I agree
by kingme on May 19, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, enough Jennings
I’m sorry . . . he sucked in Europe. Lets not forget he ran to Europe because he didn’t feel he was up to hacking it out in college (tells you something about his personality). The guy is all sizzle, no steak. Please, put wrap on the Jennings talk. The day has already been terrible enough don’t be touting the most likely, flat out bust.
by bignerd on May 19, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's how I see it
Get Jennings, Rubio, Evans, and Holiday in a gym together and let them fight to the death while Petrie looks on clapping in delight.
by thekangarooster on May 19, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Clippers decide to draft the player with the best 40 time.
by jveezy on May 19, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blake Griffin - Welcome to Purgatory!
Dont confuse activity with achievement.
by ridnour8 on May 19, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Being drafted by the Clippers makes you a bust by default.
by Deleran on May 19, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not by default!
They Teach you to bust there!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 19, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time to start selling ourselves on Jennings
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Jennings-1114/
Screw Rubio..its all bout Jennings now!
by roberteffenhorry on May 19, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
With Jennings, our starting line-up is going to be blazing fast.
by CloudyEyes on May 19, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…who needs an unathletic slow euro point guard anyways? ;)
by roberteffenhorry on May 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My post is up
For those who want a dose of good news. I believe I can give (some) hope to those in need of some.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just don't die
We need you around kingme. :)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truly sucks for now. But historically the chance to land a good player at #4 is the same as on #2
http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm
60% star, 30% solid role player, 10% role player.
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Norsky
I appreciate the silver lining.
by Ziller on May 19, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted something similar
Perk up TZ. All is well in the kingdom.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe not in the whole Kingdom
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a fanpost up as well.
Basically this is probably the best situation we could have hoped for at number 4. Theres still a sliver of hope for Rubio if Memphis decides to take a chance on Thabeet or Hill. OKC is gonna want Thabeet. I don’t see OKC taking Rubio but they could and move Westbrook to the 2 guard.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 19, 2009 6:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree Aykis
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We didn't see Portland taking Bayless last year, either.
I am now firmly convinced of our bad luck. I’ll read Pook’s article and hopefully it will help, but…
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on May 19, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PK's article will help.
Dont confuse activity with achievement.
by ridnour8 on May 19, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say this
But, I find it depressing so many of you feel depressed. I wish you didn’t feel so bad. :(
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought I'd feel more depressed
But we lucked out on who was above us.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 19, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep me too
One reason I don’t feel so bad. I got another post coming too. Give me a few more minutes and I’ll have it up.
IT’S GOING TO BE OKAY EVERYBODY! WE GOT GEOFF PETRIE! WHO DO THE CLIPPERS GOT? Mike Dunleavy Sr? I rest my case. Who do the Grizzlies got? Chris Wallace? I rest my case. Okay, Sam Presti is pretty good as the GM of the Thunder. But, still, he isn’t in a chance to take Rubio or Griffin.
So guess what? Geoff Petrie is good as gold.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will be alright.
Like PK posted on his blog, we havent had a pick this high since Billy Owens and that turned into Mitch Richmond which turned into Chris Webber which turned into some pretty good times….We will be alright.
Dont confuse activity with achievement.
by ridnour8 on May 19, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Naw...wont be 7 years.
I think we have more assets now then we had then. But I think we need to focus our attention on the next coach now.
Dont confuse activity with achievement.
by ridnour8 on May 19, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is....
We really need to explore trading #4 and #23 or #31 to move to the 2 spot, or the 3 spot (if Thabeet goes at 2, which is what Chad Ford says will now happen) to take Rubio. Unless we move up, or trade out for a young star that significantly improves our team, the Kings are DONE in sacramento. With the worst attendance in the league this year, we HAVE to get people energized about the team….and drafting brandon jennings or tyreke evans so they can play 20 minutes a game as a backup (which is what jennings will be at least for a few years—he can’t start in Europe, why would he start in the NBA?) will not do it.
We need Rubio even more now…
by Out of Service Pervis on May 19, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhm . . . .
Rubio didn’t start either. Nobody is giving up 1 or 2 for the #4
not in this draft
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on May 19, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio was a starter
I don’t know where you are getting your information from.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really doesn't matter whether he started or not
In Europe minutes are divided differently than they are in the US.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
Does Manu Ginobili suck even though he came off the bench for a lot of his career so far? Kevin McHale? John Havlichek?
Starting is not the end all be all of anything.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly the clips will take griffin, but at 2 if Memphis takes Thabeet, then there’s a good chance OKC would be open to swapping down a spot to pick up another first rounder…if they decide they don’t want/need rubio to play with westbrook….
by Out of Service Pervis on May 19, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a protected 1st rounder
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was talking about our #23
And my point about jennings, which I should have just said I suppose, is that I’m not sold on him, and think he’ll take 2-3 years to get to a point where he’s playing at the level of an NBA starter…
But the larger point is that I don’t think keeping our pick and taking a guy like jennings will do enough to excite our fanbase to come to games, which could lead us down the road of the “formerly” sacramento kings…..
by Out of Service Pervis on May 19, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think not getting an arena done will do that
Brandon Jennings selection should, and can’t, be the reason fans don’t go to games.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we all need a day to gather our thoughts.
Seriously we have GP and not to mention some pretty smart members here at STR. It will be ok. Maybe not the best case scenario but who knows could turn out better than we think.
Dont confuse activity with achievement.
by ridnour8 on May 19, 2009 7:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It will be ok. Maybe not the best case scenario but who knows could turn out better than we think.
Amen brother ridnour. Amen.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heartbreak...
Don’t really have any positive words… Just can’t really remember the last time I felt PRIDE as a Kings fan. MAYBE when we ALMOST did something special??? All being a Kings fan seems to be, is hoping for things that never happen, and when they do, some tragedy happens to take it away… Draft a stud, and he commits suicide. Trade for a stud, and he blows out a knee. Load the team up ten deep (bench Mob), and they can’t make 4th quarter freethrows… I could go on all night considering I’ve been riding with the Kings from the day they came to Sac… But I think I’ve made my point. I don’t want to hear the nonsense about how this is “the best possible outcome” and all the BS above… The best outcome would have been Blake Griffin in a Kings jersey! I’m tired of always being FORCED to settle as a Kings fan. I’m tired of finding the silver lining in things… I think it’s a fair question to ask the SACRAMENTO KINGS ORGANIZATION: WHEN will you finally do something to make use ANYTHING other than a joke? When will the aggressive move come? The one like Boston getting 2 future Hall-of-Fame players… The one like LA getting Gasol??? When will anything of relevance happen where the KINGS come out looking like the winner? I’m tired of my team being the NBA’s Epic Fail…
by tlfairgo on May 19, 2009 7:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No disrespect intended
But how long have you been a Kings fan? I mean, were you a fan for the eight stright years of playoffs, or are you more recent? I don’t mean this as a smart ass, and this team indeed sucks right now. And there is no doubt that being a Kings fan isn’t easy. But to paint it as the Kings always being a joke (ignoring the playoff run), or the organization never doing anything agressive (ignoring the Webber/Richmond trade, the drafting of Peja and Jason Williams, the Artest deal), I just think that is highly inaccurate.
Again, I share your frustration and I understand where you’re coming from. But as someone that had his ears ringing days after attending playoff games, I must respectfully disagree.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on May 19, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To "section214"...
Not one person on this site has seniority over me in Kings land… I’ve been a fan from day one as I did say in my post… Not sure how you missed it considering it was the first thing I said… Again, when we made those playoff runs we ended up as a joke. Maybe you have never lived outside of Sacramento and don’t know how the rest of the country saw the Kings for never being able to beat the Lakers or how all I ever heard was how the Kings are the NBA’s best choke artists, soft, flop artists, etc… But imagine being in a city (Houston, Phoenix, and Dallas were places I was for a while for school/work before coming back home) that has not one but 3-6 pro sports franchises and STILL all you hear about is how garbage the Kings are… And that’s when you are at the PEAK of ANY success you have EVER had. So you can “respectfully disagree” all you want… Won’t change the fact that Artest wasn’t an aggressive move. Just a stupid one… Also, if were being honest, the Webber trade was a stupid one as well… Did it work out? Sure, and I’m glad as Webber is one of my all time fav Kings… But when someone says publicly that they don’t want to play for you and you trade a HOF like Mitch for him… Not to bright… Could have EASILY backfired and instead of being happy about 8 years of playoff failure (and make no mistake, NEVER winning you’re conference in almost 30 years is pure failure) we would be sitting here without even those memories. Also, you go ahead and be happy with Division Titles hanging in our rafters, and not having even ONE All-Star in something like 5 years… I’ve paid for my tickets and bought the jerseys and shoveled all the shit that everyone dumps on me as a Kings fan since they got to Sac and done it with a smile because I’m a Sac-King til’ the day I die! And to me, that earns me the right to ask these questions. As someone who STILL defends Geoff Petrie (because he doesn’t shoot free-throws or decide how much effort to put in on D) I think it’s fair to ask him when he will get me someone who’s Jersey I could actually wear and not feel like a complete douche… Trust that I have lost my voice as much as the best of em’ and will continue to do so… But I KNOW I’m right on this and I’m getting tired of rocking Richmond, Webb, Webber, and Bibby jerseys because I don’t even know who will be here next year… No more excuses, get me a real balla…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
Mitch went into the Hall of Fame? Did I miss that?
Anyone who claims that the Webber-Richmond trade was a failure is a complete dumbass…PERIOD. If that trade hadn’t been made, you wouldn’t even have had division titles hanging in the rafters.
Honestly, you sound like anything but a legit Kings fan.
But I KNOW I’m right on thisWell in that case…nevermind!
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Otis29"-WTF?
Does someone need to boost their reading comprehension skills???
First, show where I said the Webber trade was a failure… Please since you’re so smart, and I’m what did you say? “A complete dumbass”??? So now that I re-read my post and still couldn’t find that part, maybe I should repeat myself for all the slow kids in class… Namely YOU. I said it was a STUPID trade and even gave the reason why, so try reading it again douche…
Now as far as Mitch in the Hall? Hasn’t happened YET… But I don’t see him not getting in… If Reggie Miller gets in than Mitch gets in… Check the stats oh wise all knowing super Kings fan and tell me I’m wrong… But After re-reading my post I still would word it differently now that I’m not typing a mile a minute in pure draft rage. But please don’t tell me you think Mitch doesn’t belong in the Hall and then have the audacity question my fanhood at the same time…
So when you’re done re-reading my post and actually get what I really said and not what you made up, THEN tell me where I’m wrong and make a case while you’re at it instead of childish name calling this time around…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
Also, if were being honest, the Webber trade was a stupid one as well… Did it work out? Sure, and I’m glad as Webber is one of my all time fav Kings… But when someone says publicly that they don’t want to play for you and you trade a HOF like Mitch for him… Not to bright… Could have EASILY backfired and instead of being happy about 8 years of playoff failure (and make no mistake, NEVER winning you’re conference in almost 30 years is pure failure) we would be sitting here without even those memories.
Fair enough, you didn’t indicate that it was a failure, but you are certainly implying that it was a dumb move. Or am I misunderstanding your neanderthal-like cave scratchings?
By the way, it would take someone who is “not too bright” to type the words “not to bright”. I’m surprised you didn’t go with “not two bright”.
As for Mitch Richmond,
Mitch Richmond does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Mitch Richmond does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Mitch Richmond does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Mitch Richmond does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Mitch Richmond does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Clear enough for you? Reggie Miller doesn’t belong there either, in my opinion. I love Mitch as much as the next Kings fan, but I’m a realist as well. Funny that there’s never really been a groundswell of support at this site or any other Kings site I’ve seen for a Mitch Richmond HOF push.
I hate to leave without saying something nice so – great work on the paragraphs this time, Sparky.
More paragraphs, less ellipses = WIN.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really????
You’re BEST argument was that a post (that I didn’t bother to proof read or spell check) was missing an O on the word “too”? OK, I guess you got me good there… WOW! At this point I know you’re not a real Kings fan. If you were you, would have better smack and much better knowledge… I came to this site because I was told it’s a good spot to get with legit Kings fans… How any Kings fan can disagree with Michael Jordan along with most other NBA people is beyond me. Especially if they actually followed the Kings back then and watched Mitch play. No way you were at those games and believe the nonsense you just said. Jordan came out in 2001 (when Mitch retired) and said very clearly that Mitch Richmond was THE best match up of his career at SG. He went on to say that it was the game he looked forward TWO (just for you) most. For the simple reason that Mitch worked him as hard as he worked him and the 1-on-1 was just plain fun. Maybe I’m just taking crazy pills here but when the GREATEST OF ALL TIME talks about a guy who has career numbers like that it means something. Also, every “expert” I hear talk about Mitch or any of the other no championship perennial all-stars, say the ONLY thing that could hold him out is that he was in a small market before the ticket and all that so he wasn’t the most known player… Well, until he won an All-Star MVP… So no Miller either huh? OK, is Chris Mullen a HOF guy? How about Vince Carter? How about Ray Allen? Because they’re all in the same boat… Well, Allen was blessed with Paul Pierce and KG on his team so he got his ring…
Oh, and PS- Anytime you trade for a player who PUBLICLY STATES they don’t want to play for you??? Pretty stupid move… Worked out and I am MORE than happy it did. But if Webber had stuck to his guns the run would have never happened…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allrightythen
Listen, the only reason I brought up your typo, is you did so in the context of questioning the intelligence of the man who made the Webber trade. While I wouldn’t want to go so far as to call it “ironic”, I did find it interesting, as I found interesting your claim that Mitch is a HOF player.
Your penis-waving about being a more legitimate Kings fan than anyone else here – in one of your first posts on the site – is equally interesting. Some might even call it arrogant.
Hang around a while – you’ll probably find out that many of us have been attending games since the first Arco Arena opened. Many of us have even been season ticket holders back to that time. And not that I should have to establish my own credibility as a Kings fan, but I was lucky enough to get to know many of the original Kings – LaSalle Thompson, Larry Drew, Reggie Theus and Mike Woodson primarily – since many of them were my neighbors when the team moved here from Kansas City. I’ve been buying tickets, jerseys and merchandise ever since.
So you may have to accept that you’re not the only rabid Kings fans in these parts.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go again...
So yet again you’re putting words in my mouth huh? I believe what I said was: “Not one person on this site has seniority over me in Kings land… Ive been a fan from day one as I did say in my post…” (don’t know how to quote it like you’re doing yet) And that was only in response to someone asking if I had just become a Kings fan. I was there when our owner went up into the rafters (during a game) to patch a leak in the roof that was dripping on the floor… I remember wearing my Spud Webb jersey EVERY day until it exploded because he dunked two balls at once in the dunk contest as a King… Thought it was the coolest thing ever at the time… Is that old school enough for you? I’ll be around this site for a while because outside of you, everything else has been dialed in. LOVIN’ the site. I still think you smoked a big bowl of crack if you think Richmond, Miller or any of the others I named off aren’t HOF-worthy, LOL! I’m still waiting to hear WHY he won’t get in or more accurately why YOU don’t think he SHOULD get in. Plus, why did you argue that in the first place? Do you correct people when they say “Hall-of-Famer Carl Malone”??? (or whatever name you prefer) He’s not in… YET…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calm down, Sparky
Your mention of the HOF in conjunction with Richmond’s name appeared to be an attempt to bolster your argument that the C-Webb trade was stupid. That’s why I mentioned it.
Tell you what, maybe we can come to a meeting somewhere in the middle. Perhaps we could use the term “risky” in conjunction with the C-Webb/Richmond trade. There is a certain element of risk in any trade, but Petrie saw that C-Webb was a superior NBA talent whose trade value was diminished by the perception that he was a difficult guy.
Honestly, at the time I thought it was a great trade, even after C-Webb pissed and moaned about having to come to Sacramento. Richmond was not taking the Kings anywhere at that point, and to get a guy as talented as C-Webb for an aging star (no, not superstar) was a no-brainer.
By the way, it is Karl Malone – and yes, he is a clear Hall of Famer. He will be in the Hall his first year of eligibility. Mitch is already eligible, but is not in. Slight difference.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back at you...
First, you need to stop calling me names like sparky… To this point you have made all of ONE good point and that was about Karl Malone’s name… And again, nobody cares… Calling me names isn’t going to convince me that I’m wrong. I also thought I MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR WHEN I WROTE “or whatever name you prefer” that I was not comparing the 2 players… I’ll try to make my posts longer so I can explain every little thing to you as it seems the only thing that works is you’re spell check… Stop nitpicking if you have no argument and just leave it be… Nitpicking isn’t going to win you an argument. It just makes you look like a moron who tried to argue and then had to find another subject because he couldn’t make his case. Also, rewording a take I already put out there isn’t making a new take… It’s just saying I was right from the beginning and because you were too busy trying to find someone to rag on you cried about my post. I wouldn’t have an issue meeting you half way but first you tell me you have attended games from the time the Kings came to Sac… Then say Mitch isn’t HOF-worthy… Then I ask about 4 or 5 other players and you never answer… Please stop talking in circles and come legit or admit you were wrong. Creating arguments that have nothing to do with the subject is plain garbage…
The bottom line is that Mitch Richmond SHOULD be in the HOF, PERIOD. If you REALLY went to all those games you would know that and would never say something so ridiculous. Did you never get to see him go head to head with Jordan? Because I loved every second. Clearly you missed some of the things the guy used to be able to do in his sleep. Whatever, you have no clue what you’re talking about anyway… What will you claim I said next? We’re all waiting…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, I have no clue what I’m talking about. I’ll just go ahead and agree with you – the C-Webb/Richmond trade was stupid and Mitch is a hall-of-famer. And the Artest trade was stupid as well, because we needed a 15.6 PER guy who could pound the ball, kill the 24 second shot clock and hoist an ill-advised three pointer.
You’re a regular Red Auerbach.
I eagerly await Mitch’s induction ceremony.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So anyways...
You really don’t agree that trading for a player who goes through the media saying they don’t like you’re city and don’t want to play for you’re team is stupid? Did I not say it worked out and that Webber was one of my fav’s?? So I guess you would marry a woman who said she doesn’t love you and doesn’t want to sleep with you because she’s hot then right??? Brilliant!
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi tlfairgo
Sorry to get in the middle of your guys’ argument but I think I can add a couple things, not necessarily on the topic, but on why you guys maybe disagreeing and pretty much attacking each other. Please don’t take this in a wrong way, not trying to attack or anything, just some suggestions.
It may help if you could start using more paragraphs, clear sentences and less ellipses. As I was reading your stuff, it was hard to make sense out of it because you have a lot of run on sentences and it’s hard to get your point. This is not grammar class, I know, but it would help everyone underastand your arguments better. You are saying that Otis is putting words in your mouth a lot and this may be partly because of your writing style. It’s tough to see what you are saying if there are no dots, or comas. Again, not an attack, just a suggestion.
One thing that a lot of people here hate too, is when new people join theis blog and fron the get-go start acting like they know it all and they’ve been through everything with this team. That seems to be the cas ewith you, as you are an older fan and have followed this team since the very beginning. That’s more that I can say for myself. At the same time, it came accross snobby, like we should respect you because you’ve been there before. I’m just giving you my impression as a unbiased guy that spends a lot of his time around StR so maybe that could help you understand why you may think Otis is antagonizing you.
Most people here are pretty cool, including Otis, but sometimes we are rubbed the wrong way by new people who come in here thinking they own the place and unfortunately that’s how you may have come off at first.
Please take some of this as constructive criticism and not as a personal attack.
Now you can both go back to arguing about Mitch Richmond ;)
by eduardo_m7 on May 20, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks eduardo
But I shouldn’t have jumped his shit so hard. I think I’m still a little pissed about last night’s events, combined with this horrifying thought that the dominoes are falling in the exact manner necessary to cause this team to relocate. Which I’m sure all of us can agree would be a huge disaster.
I probably should have just taken the day off. :)
So my apologies tlfairgo – you can probably see why TZ has not appointed me as the StR Welcome Wagon. Hang around a while, I think you’ll find that we are a pretty good crew.
And that’s two apologies here in the space of 24 hours on this site – I’d better knock it off or y’all are going to think I’m going soft.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's cool...
That’s all I wanted to hear. I have enough on my plate dealing with the majority of my friends being fan’s of either LA, Phoenix, Houston, NY, and Dallas… Don’t need to fight Kings fans along with it, LOL! But I’m still gonna’ say Mitch is HOF to the end, LMFAO!!!
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will see!
I hope you’re right about Mitch. :)
Peace.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Not at all dude. I can see why you were arguing that way. I actually thought he said that was a bad trade too. Anywways.. it’s all done so we are cool. Now let’s go argue how we are going to get Rubio…. hahaha
by eduardo_m7 on May 20, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
To anyone who thought I was “snobby” I apologize… But I also ask you to go back to the beginning and read my posts.
I’m pretty sure if I attacked you’re “fan-hood” you would tell me how long you’ve been a Kings fan as well…
So while it wasn’t my intention I also felt it necessary as Ive heard you better hold you’re own around these parts and back up what you say…
I haven’t done anything to say I own this place but plan to be a regular now that I know about it…
Also, not writer. So bear with me on the grammar, LOL!
But if you read it, Otis came sideways from the start and I don’t show respect to those who have none. You say he’s a good guy? Remains to be seen. To this point, I don’t see it…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is and you'll see it
And I do appreciate the understading. My grammar is pretty bad too but it helps to work on it to get your points accross. Anyway, welcome again and we’ll be arguing soon. That’s what we do around here
by eduardo_m7 on May 20, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A different name to make you happy...
How about Gary Payton? Is he a better name for you to get the point that someone can call a player a “Hall-of-Famer” before they get in? I mean seriously, this site was suggested to me by a friend who said it was all Kings love here. Everyone knows basketball and nobody says stupid ish… But you have been steady hatin’ from jump. I’m glad you’re the only hater Ive encountered on here to this point Otis…
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should see for yourself
Before you assume anything about this site. We tend to disagree about quite a few things here, but that doesn’t mean we don’t all love our team (well, except for CCR).
By the way, if this first post of yours is exhibiting “Kings love”, I’d hate to see when you are pissed at them.
Don’t really have any positive words… Just can’t really remember the last time I felt PRIDE as a Kings fan. MAYBE when we ALMOST did something special??? All being a Kings fan seems to be, is hoping for things that never happen, and when they do, some tragedy happens to take it away… Draft a stud, and he commits suicide. Trade for a stud, and he blows out a knee. Load the team up ten deep (bench Mob), and they can’t make 4th quarter freethrows… I could go on all night considering I’ve been riding with the Kings from the day they came to Sac… But I think I’ve made my point. I don’t want to hear the nonsense about how this is "the best possible outcome" and all the BS above… The best outcome would have been Blake Griffin in a Kings jersey! I’m tired of always being FORCED to settle as a Kings fan. I’m tired of finding the silver lining in things… I think it’s a fair question to ask the SACRAMENTO KINGS ORGANIZATION: WHEN will you finally do something to make use ANYTHING other than a joke? When will the aggressive move come? The one like Boston getting 2 future Hall-of-Fame players… The one like LA getting Gasol??? When will anything of relevance happen where the KINGS come out looking like the winner? I’m tired of my team being the NBA’s Epic Fail…
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 20, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was supposed to be like that...
That post was not about love. I activated my membership for the sole purpose of venting, lol! I think it would have been a red flag if I hadn’t been so pissed about yesterday don’t you think?
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're entitled to your opinion
I respectfully disagree. And I apologize that I missed the part about you being a Kings fan since day one. My bad, though paragraphs do help.
I feel bad for you if you have not been able to take any joy from these past several years. I have never been embarrassed to be a Kings fan, not even the two years that I lived in Chicago and proudly wore my baby blue Kings jacket to the Madhouse on Madison.
Am I satisfied with the results from the past several years? No. Have I had my heart broken as a Kings fan? Absolutely. But do I feel that we nothing other than a joke? No way. I’ll leave that for you and Clippers fans.
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by section214 on May 20, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%...
Yesterdays post was pure rage man, LOL! I LOVE the memories from the Adleman years. That’s not what I meant… What I mean is: why is it that the Kings always find a way to make us a joke? Examples would be firing one of the 10 all-time winning-est NBA coaches and then you’re first candidate for the job is a WNBA COACH WITH NO NBA EXPERIENCE? WTF? You just now have some cred/respect in the league so you hop up to be the ONLY team who goes after Artest? WTF? Hire Theus (who I thought was doing OK) and fire him in the middle of the season? WTF??? I guess I’m just tired of doing things different from the teams who consistently have success and thinking it’ll workout. You know? I hope that clears it up and sorry for getting a little testy. MY bad… Last night and first thing this morning were rough, LOL!!!
by tlfairgo on May 20, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My 2nd post on this is up
I hope it helps cheer you up. (In fact, I’m going to bust out my Wailers CD and sing to Jammin right now.)
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by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here ya go
http://evilcowtowninc.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/with-regards-to-geoff-petries-legacy/
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 19, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"How you like them apples?"
Hey there,
DJ’s currently choosing between seven diff. NBA teams to travel to summer league with. (without the whole, "contingent upon tryout" clause) For some reason, possibly loyalty to his hometown, he’s still entertaining the thought of playing along with the Sacramento Kings. I’m just not sure why you guys didn’t notice DJ’s natural, organic & raw talent when you first had the chance. Meanwhile, the ‘next’ team exuberantly notices and also is willing to bend over backwards, tweak & perfect it. It’s very ironic due to the fact that you guys are the ones who are in need of the spark that DJ could provide the most.
……you can always work on your fundamentals or learn a play; UNFORTUNATELY you cannot teach athleticism, heart, desire, LOYALTY, determination, TENACITY, basketball instinct…..or a 42+ inch vertical.
you said NO to the local kid without a second thought; but now the local kid is actually giving you a second thought!
LOCAL KID+TALENT= FANS BACK IN THE STANDS= FINANCIAL BOOST FOR THE KINGS ORGANIZATION= MORE MOOLA FOR 2010 FREE AGENCY=THE REAL REBUILDING OF THE SACRAMENTO KINGS
EQUALS HAPPY MALOOFS!!!!!
The preceeding is what I was hoping that you would acknowledge last year.
"How you like them apples?"
by ToBikeisMyRight on May 19, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who the heck are you?
Stop your trolling of all our threads.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 19, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Girlfriend and agent
of the dude she’s promoting. He’s a local guy who got invited to the Kings training camp last year. The trolling is getting really annoying, especially today.
by eduardo_m7 on May 19, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the 2nd best player and the local YMCA
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on May 19, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised you're still around
Blatantly spamming several SBN sites.
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Organic? I like that in my tomatoes and vegetables.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on May 19, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOO
The Kings could have drafted him too if only they had the first pick. DAMN YOU CLIPPERS AND YOUR LOVE FOR DAVID JOHNSON!
by Sabonis4Ever on May 20, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I contributed to the jinx!!!
For those who read my concpiracy post…
I planned on flying up to sac but yesterday i had a change of plans cuz my wife flew to Philly for a promotion interview so I had to stay behind to take care of the little ones. Had I not been in So Cal today, we could have been a contender!!!
Uggghhhhhh!
by SactownheartOChouse on May 19, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You have a house in OC
and a wife who’s getting a promotion…spare me your drama.
:)
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by PhutureKings on May 19, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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