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"It takes work. That’s why Geoff has been successful in the Draft, because he’s taken the time to go to Europe twice, in like two weeks, to make the effort to go there and see these players firsthand. So he’s not relying on everybody else. He does the leg work. Our scouts do the leg work. They work very hard at gathering the information — psychological testing, physical testing, mental testing and everything you can to hope you can ensure that we will pick the best possible player at that spot."

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If Petrie likes Rubio a lot

or any player for that matter who is higher than 4, I fully expect the Kings to move up. There is also the possibility of moving down.

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by Aykis16 on May 20, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

That's sort of where I'm at on this too

Petrie and the scouts will do their work. Players will workout. One or two players will emerge as Geoff’s favorite, and if GP thinks he can take him at 4, he’ll take him at 4. If he wants a guy bad enough and he doesn’t think he’ll be there at 4, I think he’ll make a serious effort to move up and get him, especially if Choice #1 is miles ahead of Choice #2. I don’t think we’ll move down though even if Petrie thinks he can get his man much lower; that doesn’t seem to be Geoff’s style (see Thompson, Jason. Dammit, I swore to myself I’d never do that).

The bottom line is, this year Petrie gets to take almost anyone in the whole world that he wants. I feel pretty good about that, considering how well he’s done in the past under far more restrictive circumstances.

by AnotherStupidSN on May 20, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Patience is all you ever need with the minions Aykis

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by pookeyguru on May 20, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although

the kings didn’t get the #1 or #2 pick …. I’m still excited to see what Petrie pulls off!

Booyah!

by Dub_TC on May 20, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd love to see us move up

But no matter which way I look at it. I don’t see that happening. It’s not like some drafts where #4 and #2 are close. I don’t think 4 & 23 buys you #2. And, while I’d be willing to give up anything but K-Mart, Hawes, or JT, what else do we have of value? Is anyone here suggesting they’d give up #4 and one of the three listed above to get #2? Or is there a realistic (meaning most people could see it happening) chance of any other trade that would move us up? For 90%-100% of the teams out there Griffin is the clear number one pick. But I think the difference between 2 and 4 is at least as big as the difference between 1&2.

Moving down is far more likely in my opinion.

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by SavageBeast on May 20, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd consider giving up #4 and KMart, but I don't know that the teams ahead of us would take on

KMart’s salary.

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by Holmdel on May 20, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you want to give up a possible star of your franchise and a known star

for just 1 possible star? Especially when we have K-Mart at such a good price.

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by Aykis16 on May 20, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed - not a chance

And it would be a terrible decision.

by Kusian on May 20, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well dude

I don’t know why you keep asking that question, but the answer is that you’d make such a move if you think you can get a better player to improve your team. That is why you would do it.

Now do I think we should move Martin and the 4th pick to get the 2 spot? No way. It’s a silly idea, I think. There are far better (for the Kings) and more realistic moves that we could think up in which Martin would be moved.

Having said that, I like Martin and am not particularly interested in seeing him moved unless we have a good shot at a better team.

by DustyG on May 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

We wouldn't need to

Chances are if we move up it’d be to number 2. They really wouldn’t want to take on the salary. Plus, they already have OJ Mayo as their big time scorer. It wouldn’t make sense

Also, having Rubio without Martin on the team would make Rubio way less effective

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by vfettke on May 20, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, repeating my question

What would we have to do to move from #4 to #2? Do you think #4 and #23 would buy #2? Seems like a stretch to me.

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on May 20, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think 4 and Kenny Thomas for 2 and Marko Jaric would do it

The Grizz would have the most money to do something in 2010 and still have a good pick.

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by Aykis16 on May 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

That’s a pretty realistic and likeable scenario. But i don’t know much about Jaric’s contract…must be pretty hairy.

by DustyG on May 20, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than Tyra

IMHO

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by DustyG on May 20, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about that this morning

that’s an extra 1000 tickets sold per game

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by vfettke on May 20, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

6.5 mil for two more years

But the Griz are already way under the cap. Do they need space that much?

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Vfettke

by SavageBeast on May 20, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

We might have to throw in the #23 with it as well

But maybe we could get away with giving them #4, #31, and K9 for Jaric and thr #2

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by vfettke on May 20, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

a star

just not a superstar or a franchise-type player. He certainly has “star” numbers.

by Kusian on May 20, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

A star Not! Trade up - No!

K-Mart is a very good player but not an NBA star – yet There are his questions about his durability. He is the best player on a very bad team. This can mask both make a player look better than they are. At the same time It can also hide how good a player actually is. He does have potential to develop further and reach star status. But with the limited talent on this team, you can not risk a proven, above average player NBA starter for an unproven rookie.

As I have proven in other sections of this board, there is a tendency amongst King’s fans to over rate our players and other shall I say ‘parts’ of the Kings. Even ones from the ‘glory days’. Especially a tendency to focus on a ‘career year’ or ‘career series’ rather than the longer view. A star does it year in and year out. The NFL has had many 1,000 yard rushers for a season or two. The great ones like Peyton, LT, Emitt Smith produce over many years.

by mr west on Jun 4, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Psychological AND Mental testing?

Man, that’s some thorough testing

Just say no to Flip Saunders

by Muff209 on May 20, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep

Pretty standard for any business that’s going to invest millions in a potential employee. Plus drug testing, credit and background checks, you name it.

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by otis29 on May 20, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

They test their bodies

they do physical testing,
physique evaluations,
Body tests of all kinds,
etc.

by DustyG on May 20, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

No it's not

mental testing can be intelligence and mental acuity. Psych testing would be more about mental health stuff.

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by vfettke on May 20, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about
everything you can to hope you can ensure that we will pick the best possible player at that spot.

by furious.d on May 20, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

That was a little heavy on the ‘snide side’

by batso on May 20, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a second

Why are we all assuming that Rubio is the player that GP wants anyways, let alone that he wants him so bad that he’d trade up to get him? Rubio has all the hype, but I think it’s been well established that Mr. Petrie cares not for hype.

We obviously know that he was intrigued enough to take a trip to Spain just to see him, but did he like what he saw? Maybe I haven’t read everything that’s out there, but so far I haven’t seen anything that would indicate that Geoff was blown away or that he’s found his man. Lest we forget this ancient chinese proverb:

A man who makes assumptions about Geoff Petrie is a man destined for a suprise

by AnotherStupidSN on May 20, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

It’s a fool’s errand to assume anything Petrie is thinking.

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 20, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Doesn’t Rubio play like the guy Geoff Petrie was put on this planet to build a team around? Minus Rubio’s shooting touch he seems to have the skills GP has coveted in draft’s and player acquisitions past.

by bignerd on May 21, 2009 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

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