Why we should take Pat Calathes at #4
by lodisacfan on May 20, 2009 12:24 PM PDT
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So I'm sitting at my desk, and I realized something kind of incredible..
1998 is the year that the Kings started their ascent towards greatness. Which two teams had the top picks that year? Oh, that's right, it was #1 Clippers and #2 Grizzlies, just like this year. Very interesting... They are projected as of right now to take a big guy and then a point guard, just like the Clips and Griz did that year (Olowokandi and Bibby). Another amazing coincidence is that there is a white point guard out of the university of Florida available and he will seem like a reach at our draft spot.
So obviously, we need to draft Calathes at #4, trade K-Mart for Amare this summer, and then in two years trade Calathes for Rubio.. (or maybe Jennings, since he was supposed to go to U of A like Bibby).
READY... GO
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I was looking at the name and thinking
it must be “Nick’s” brother, I didn’t even know he was in the draft.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Did you not get the sarcasm? Or am I not getting your sarcasm?
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'
You guys should not draft Jennings.
He is a Warrior for sure.
He's gonna get hurt riding a moped and then lie about it?
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Ohh that's for sure
Why even say it? Top to bottom the Warriors organization is better than the Kings. Starting from the great owners, down to the proven GM, and the all the way to the thoughtful coach
I was not here to start an argument, but if that's what you guys want...
Yes the Maloof brothers are better owners than Cohan, whoever your GM is is probably better than Larry Riley (even though he has yet to do anything), I mean look at all the great things he’s done for the team. He brought in Nocioni, gave Udrih a big contract, and…and…and….
Roster:
Monta>Kmart
SJax>Francisco Garcia/Nocioni
Randolph>Thompson
Biedrins>Hawes
Azabuike>McCants
Wright>Gooden/Diogu
Bellinelly>Udrih//Will Solomon
CJ Watson>Bobby Jackson
Donte Greene=Bust city
Calvin Booth=Bust city
Good jobe tanking and getting the 4th pick.
LOL Ed
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Um, no
Monta>Kmart
KMart- Younger, bigger, cheaper, better scorer, statistical tie in rebounds.
As for the rest, we don’t even have McCants, Gooden, Diogu, Solomon or Jackson under contract anymore. And you’re comparing veterans with first and second year big men.
I’ll give you Jackson over Nocioni, but Noc isn’t a starter for most of his career.
If you must troll, troll accurately.
Ok, people, let's generate all the good Karma we can until May 19. Then you can go back to your shallow and empty lifestyles.
by LeaguePassAddict on May 21, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Since Monta barely played 2008-2009, let's compare 07-08
Monta – 81 games/53% field goal percentage/5 rebounds/3.9 assists/20.2 points
KMart – 61 games/45% field goal percentage/4.5 rebounds/2.1 assists/23.7 points
KMart might score more than Monta, but he’s not as efficient a scorer as Monta is. He also can’t spread the ball as well as Monta (an area Monta is still improving in), or rebound as well as him (plus KMart has 4 inches on Monta too).
Monta had this one season where he was injured, so I wouldn’t be ready just yet to call him injury prone, but this is the second straight season where KMart has missed at least 20 games.
Another thing is that Monta is still 23 and is still improving, and KMart is 26 isn’t really improving in anything. His numbers have stayed about the same for the past three years, except his scoring has increased (but his field goal percentage has dropped) and his turnovers have increased.
by ZaMzAm FiRe on May 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Career True Shooting Percentages
Martin = 58.9%
Ellis = 53.4%
Next.
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True shooting is a stat made by fans. It's not very relevant.
The only reason KMart’s is higher than Monta is because KMart is a better 3-point shooter than Monta.
Again. Look at the numbers. Over the past three seasons, KMart has increased scoring, but has dropped in FG percentage and has increased his turnovers to the point where he gets more turnovers everygame than assists.
Yeah
Or more accurately, it was made by Dean Oliver who now works for the Denver Nuggets as a stats consultant.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Actually
It is used by John Hollinger. But I suppose that he’s a fan, too.
Keep spinning, sparky. You’ll get dizzy and fall down sooner or later.
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Oh -
And Martin is #20 on the list this year. I’m not sure where Ellis is, because I don’t get “ESPN Insider” so I can only look at the top 50 players. Sorry, Monta.
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Doesn't really matter cuz Monta only played 25 games
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It is interesting to me that playing in such a fast pace high octane system
that Ellis doesn’t get to the FT line more often.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Also
Look at this. Kevin Martin’s stats on Basketball Reference. And Monta Ellis’.
They have multiple stat references, and it’s amazing that they have the traditional stats, as well as the stat geek fanboy stuff you discount. Amazing how that works sometimes.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
HAHAHAA
KMart might score more than Monta, but he’s not as efficient a scorer as Monta is.
FAIL
Question: What kind of bear is best?
How is that a fail?
KMart scores 3 points more, but shoots at a lower percentage.
Don't foul shots and 3 point attempts/makes/percentage factor into this equation?
As well as 2 point attempts/makes and percentage factor?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Don't even know why I'm arguing with you
Since you consider the True Shooting stat irrelevant, why are we even discussing this? You don’t seem to care about three point shooting or drawing free throws.
And we haven’t even touched on how a Don Nelson team might inflate the stats of a player.
I’m not saying Monta is not a good, or even a very good player. And I’m not saying that Kevin doesn’t have issues with turnovers and defense.
I just find it laughable that you called Monta a more efficient scorer than Kevin. That’s a joke.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's all yours
This is like playing catch with Mikki Moore.
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Wow. Come on now.
I have not talked any (insert synonym for poop here). The post above is a joke (even if it may be a little true).
I don't know
I don’t live in Sacrapmento.
But the River Cats are doing quite well. They’re a lot like the A’s, except they win and make money.
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LOL 214
You know it’s pretty said when your Triple A team is capable of out drawing you at the box office despite only having 14000 seats.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I dare anyone
To name an occassion in which the Clippers had first pick, the Grizz had second pick, the Kings took a white UF point guard with the first pick in the draft and it didn’t begin a period of greatness for the organization. I dare you
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Great!
1. Do you have aging All Star SG you can to trade for young, underachieving, disgruntled but purely elite talent PF who also happened to be a past #1 NBA pick?
2. Is there a free agent Center available who can contribute leadership along with great ball and passing skills?
3. Does the team have a budget to bring in whole slew of available 2nd tier talents that will gel into the mold of the bench mob?
Are there even enough companies left to make a Fortune 500?
So asks the man with the 201k.
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