and is that Chris Brown sitting next to Gavin?

Nice athletic ability, even though he was like 4 feet away from his man, he had enough quickness to still get there and contest the shot.

def a talent and a step up from what we have imo

also consider this he is bigger than both rubio and jennings who are also considered in the top 5 point gaurds in draft

I know that’s a really small sample size, but it seemed like he missed a lot more jumpers off the dribble than after the catch and shoot.

…him in a vacuum, but in the vacuum, he looked pretty mediocre.

This is what a drop step vertical is supposed to look like. A vertical jump is basically jump ball, you don’t get the benefit of having extra steps. You just go straight up. (unlike the way the Kings measure it in the video above.)

From the video and the few times I watched him at UCLA, he tends to shoot before reaching the peek of his jump. Sometimes he wouldn’t get himself square either. That said he’s a good leaper which actually makes a jump shot more difficult at first. His problems may be associated to not having to take many pull up jumpers in high school… and when he did I’m sure these weren’t often pressured shots. It takes time to develop a strong jump shot and we might just being seeing the growing pains of developing that.

He does have a nice release and follow through.

On his set shot he tends to drop the ball off the catch just a bit instead of going straight up. This may not sound like a big deal but it only takes NBA players a split second to recover.

From what I saw at UCLA is that he didn’t really struggle creating his own shot but the fact that the defender was still there to challenge the shot was new to him. He didn’t seem comfortable that a defender was still in his area when he pulled up for a jumper. This may have caused some of the timing issues. If he can get get over that then he shouldn’t have much of a problem.

He also struggled with his role a bit. Didn’t know when and where he should take shots.

Holiday does not have the ceiling Westbrook does. Not nearly as athletic. Might have more of a natural basketball I.Q. though.

holiday will become a high quality/all star level one in the league. if in two years, holiday is a bust, i’ll fully own up to it. time will tell.

I can’t see him being a possibility at no.4. That’s way too high for a guy who struggled his freshman year, getting worse as the year went on. He wouldn’t have been a no.4 pick out of high school and now he’s supposed to be one after a disappointing freshman year in which he didn’t even demonstrate he could point, the position he’ll have to play in the pros. I think he’s more thought of as a late first rounder or as an option at 31 based on the guys he worked out with. If he was really in consideration for a high lottery slot, I think they would want to see him against better competition.

If I could play scout for a second, he reminds of Mario Chalmers. Physically they’re similar, athletically too. Their defense is brought up whenever one wants to mention something positive about them. Like Chalmers, I think Holiday is more of a potential solid point guard than a dynamic, top-10 one because I don’t think he’ll have the ability to live in the paint and/or be a force in transition. Chalmers went at pick 34 last year and that’s about where I think Holiday might slot in as well.