Losing Eddie Jordan Sucks, But It Probably Doesn't Matter
As Amick writes today, Eddie Jordan has really been the odds-on favorite for the Kings coaching job since, oh, December. The team made a bee line toward him after Kenny Natt was released from duty, and other than the (still weird) interview of Paul Westphal, he really stood alone as a candidate. I think one of the vogue terms leftover from presidential campaign coverage is "air of inevitability" -- Eddie Jordan's hire in Sacramento certainly had an "air of inevitability" about it. Just like Hillary Clinton's nomination.
Whoops.
Before we get too flagellant, this is different in so many ways from the Stan Van Gundy debacle. The Kings could have offered Jordan a contract at any point over the last three weeks. They did not, or if they did, they did so in an incredibly, improbably quiet way. With Van Gundy, the Kings rushed to hire him after the interviews. And he came to town. And he brought his wife. And ... Billy Donovan doomed us to the Reggie Theus and Chuck Person Era. This is different.
There's no sign management desperately wanted Jordan to be the coach. Maybe Petrie did, and he felt as if he needed to have a dog-and-pony show to satisfy the Maloofs. (Remember: Petrie is heading into the final year of his contract. Don't put it past even a choir boy like Petrie to feel like he needs to please the bosses.) But if this is the case -- if Westphal and Kurt Rambis and Tom Thibodeau were decoys, superfluous mayonnaise to make Jordan's ham more irresistible -- then why the fungus would it have all taken so long? I'm only sympathetic to the demands of intercontinental travel for so long. While the draft is far more important than the coaching search, no one said the job of NBA general manager wasn't demanding. If Petrie felt he needed to rush through the show to get to his chosen thrilling climax, he could have done this all much, much more quickly.
And that's why, even if it's not a crushing blow, definitively losing out on Eddie Jordan definitely sucks: we want Petrie to have all his favorite options available when he makes the decision. The Maloofs have famously given this hire over to Petrie's office. "Geoff's decision," they said. Well, if a top candidate gets hired away by another team, that takes some of the thrust from said decision. Petrie's deck is no longer complete. That sucks! If he interviewed Rambis and Thibodeau, maybe a couple more dudes, then sat down and decided Jordan would be the best fit after all ... well, tough cookies! Jordan's gone. So in that case, if after all is said and done Jordan would have been the best fit, Petrie has to move on to Choice No. 2. The degradation in confidence is obvious.
All that said, I've warmed considerably on Rambis and Thibodeau. Boston's defense without Kevin Garnett defended Orlando far better than Cleveland's vaunted resistance has. In my book, that says more about the system than Glen Davis. And Rambis has run L.A.'s defense this season -- it murdered the potent Nuggets Friday night. Tommy will interview in Las Vegas today, and Rambo's team won't play again until Thursday. In about a week, Petrie should be heading back to Europe -- to Treviso, this time, for Reebok Eurocamp. (Patrick Mills will be one of the point guards there. Nando de Colo and Rodrique Beaubois, as well. I could say the name "Nando de Colo" for the rest of my life.) Maybe this time he finds Ettore Messina for a chat, serious or otherwise. (Despite the pre-search rumors, Petrie has apparently not met with Messina, despite the two trips to Europe, one of which was actually a trip to watch Messina's team play in the Euroleague Final Four.)
Otherwise, good luck to you, Philadelphia. Jordan's a good coach. While Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala are hardly optimal Princeton players, the 76ers defense is fantastic and they just need a bit of help on offense to make an assault on the East's top tier.
0 recs |
33 comments
|
Comments
OK
Who is this Messina guy? I keep reading about him here, but haven’t had the chance to read up on him.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on May 30, 2009 9:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He coaches CSKA Moscow
He’s the most famous coach in Europe, other than MIke D’Antoni who honed his coaching chops in the Italian League like Messina (also Italian), and one of his vaunted abilities is to coach offense. Mike Brown seeked him out (the same way Rambis did with Thibodeau) to help him sort of refine the Cavs offense this past year.
Messina is a very talented coach. There have been lots of info on him here. (Aykis had a fanpost or fanshot with him talking about his approach to young players. I think it’s called Ettore Messina isn’t sexy enough for you Ailene? Or something like that. Start there.)
Just know that Messina is a coach that told Toronto no, and maybe another team other than the Kings. And, as TZ said, there’s no record anywhere that Petrie & Messina had a talk at the EuroLeague Final 4.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 30, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Just read the post …. watched the video ….. I can see why everyone wants him to get an interview … and count me in as one of those people.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on May 30, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I could inform.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 30, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think I won't stab you
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 30, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BRING IT.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 30, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got just the Twizzler for you
Be Right Back. Consider your stabbed!
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 30, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pookeyguru
Where stabbing happens.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 30, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Aykis
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 30, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did the Raps actually offer him the position?
The stuff I read said they were considering it and then all the talking heads jumped in and said he wasn’t ready to be a head coach in the NBA, maybe after a few years as an assistant etc. I’d love to see him coach here, now that Jordan’s not available it seems like he could be a fantastic pick. He’s kind of the Phil Jackson of Europe (not stylistically, record wise) and his hiring could be the crowning achievement of the Petrie era, if indeed, this era is coming to and end.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
by Bluejohn on May 30, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wanted EJ.
From what Amick says on Sacbee.com the money he agreed to wasn’t out of the realm of the King’s payroll. Sounds like Petrie just wasn’t that enamored. Especially since there was no counter offer. Or maybe Jordan just flat out dissed us. Either way, on to bigger and better things.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 30, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you hear that sound, Mr. Ziller?

That is the sound of inevitability. It is the sound of Paul Westphal becoming head coach of the Kings. Goodbye, Mr. Ziller.
“My name’s Tom.”
Then something cool happens where Ziller stops bullets, I mean “Wizards,” and let’s say the Kings team bus has to stay above 50 mph, and…
The worst thing about unemployment is the discovery that there are a lot of Keanu Reeves movines on cable.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on May 30, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I miss your goofy voice Sims
last Friday was a sad sad day for me
I think you should seriously consider hosting the StR podcast!
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on May 30, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the 76ers will be good this year?
the last couple years i have thought that they would break out
maybe now
but regardless, GO KINGS
by Brian5517209 on May 30, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto, TZ
If Petrie really wanted him, he would have offered him a deal a while ago. So I’m not really hurt by this at all.
by LPKingsFan on May 30, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually had somewhat cooled on EJ
over the last few weeks. Just the feeling I got that he didnt really want to be here. I have actually warmed on Westphaul, although based on the poll, most of you have not. Barkley speaks highly of him and credits him for jumpstarting PHX’s playoff runs.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on May 30, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I only want to know one thing
What was Eddie Jordan’s role in this. It’s easy to poke at the Maloof’s to say they interfered with Petrie from getting him. If that’s easily the case, than roast them in the fire next to the pig. I want the whole details of what happened from both sides. Hyperbole does little for me.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 30, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing is certain
Jordan didn’t walk out of the interview here leaving the KIngs thinking that he was the one and only option.
My sole piece of angst here is that I felt that Jordan was the best candidate to get this thing moving in the right direction. As much as I like what a guy like Thibodeau could bring, I think that the current state of the Kings calls for a coach with NBA head coaching experience. But maybe a guy like Thib or Rambis, with the proper veteran “wing man” as a lead assistant could provide the same thing…and more.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on May 30, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jordan cost too much
That’s my take. He was the best fit, but he wasn’t going to come to Sactown for 1.5 mil a year.
by R-Man on May 30, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really glad that Petrie's going to Europe again
and might be able to chat with Messina.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on May 30, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe it isnt Jordan then but...
The Kings need a BIG name coach to teach a VERY young team how to play in the NBA. If it isn’t Jordan, then who? Wesphall has a good reputation, and has been a winner, but can he teach the NBA GAME to a young, underachiving roster? He’s an offensive coach, which is good because there are NO defensive studs on the Kings. Whomever the Kings decide on, they need to act quickly! Jordan was smart because the 76’ers are a good team on the edge of relevance with Rose and a good supporting cast. If the Bulls add a piece or 2, they will succeed in the Eastern Conference quickly. The Kings have more holes to fill than they have ways to fill them. The Draft will bring 5 or 6 players to make us younger but probably only a player or 2 that will make us better right away. They need coaching Star Power to attract FA’s AND to help pull off good trades. The West is harder than ever to win in. Open your wallet EXTRA WIDE MaGOOFS! If you go cheap now the fans will just stay home.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on May 30, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OK.. I'm High
I meant Igudala :-P
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on May 30, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're a tool.
Seriously.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on May 31, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest glad Eddie Jordan off radar
He’s flawed – a poor man’s Adelman.
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on May 30, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From everything Ive heard,
Jordan liked the Philly job more than Sac. With that said how can you blame petrie for taking so long when Jordan, if offered the job, would have probably held off on answering until the completion of the Sixers coaching search.
by passionforPERPS on May 30, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is my impression as well, passion
Jordan has a history with Ed Stefanski as well as Geoff Petrie. The East Coast thing is probably more likeable from a family stand point. The Sixers can bring success and validation sooner and more assuredly than the current Kings. No way of knowing, but the money may have played into it as well.
As TZ so cleverly pointed out and emphasized by Mr. Smith andy sims, the “air of inevitability” was all smoke. Eddie Jordan was released from the Wizards before Reggie left SacTown, heck, before we asked Reggie to grow his ’stache back. That was last year. Roll ahead six months.
More questions than answers – why wasn’t Eddie Jordan just brought in by January, February? What happened under the covers that prevented an open and publicily welcoming job offering? The hush hush wasn’t just on the Kings side. It seems, in retrospect, like bumping into an old lover who you haven’t seen in a long time and you don’t know whether to embrace or shake hands, so you stand there… and then it all becomes awkward.
In an ongoing saga where nothing seems to fit, even that which seems right, this is doesn’t surprise me.
by betweentheeyes on May 30, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While the draft is far more important than the coaching search …
I’m frankly not so sure about that, particularly when I start hearing Westphal is the guy because he will work cheaply. What a horseshit way to run a team. I hope I am wrong.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on May 30, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I like Westphal...
Out of the remaining candidates, I think he can bring something to the table. He has a good record and Barkley recommends him. I’d rather have P-Dub than K-Ram.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on May 31, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree ...
… if the team didn’t have such a high pick and so many picks in the top 31 and so many holes on the roster. But I do agree that in terms of the underlying fundamentals and direction of the team, the idea of hiring a guy because he’ll work for $1.5 million and he meets arbitrary criteria is extremely disenchanting.
So that’s yes on “what a horseshit way to run a team.” In case anyone asks.
by Ziller on May 31, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's at the least a very disconcerting way to run a team
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 31, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure
That they shouldn’t be thinking about saving some money, considering the lack of name value the remaining candidates have. The coach that will eventually guide the Kings out of the cellar may not even be on the market right now.
by otis29 on Jun 1, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

by 



















