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The Appropriateness of Discussing Byron Scott

Byron Scott's Hornets lost a critical Game 4 against Denver by 58 points. Many fans and analysts around the country noted that 58-point playoff losses double as firing offenses. As in, coaches don't survive that level of embarrassment too often.

Almost immediately, Ailene Voisin penned a blog post discussing the factors that could lead to Scott coming to Sacramento. Three days later, Voisin writes a full-blown column (published on the front page of the Bee's sports section, I believe) inciting the Kings to buy out the final year on Scott's contract with New Orleans in order to make him the new Kings coach.

In the interim, we have discussed Scott at length, including a terrific Exhibit G Q&A with a real live Hornets fan/blogger. It seems like a fair topic. The Kings have a coaching vacancy, Scott has fairly strong Sacramento/Petrie connections, there's at least a possibility Scott could be fired, given that New Orleans management has remained mum. There's no harm in discussion.

(This is the part where I -- guh -- defend Ailene Voisin.)

Yesterday evening, Grant Napear launched into a tirade (no!) about the mere idea fans and media would discuss a coach currently under contract. He called it stupid, unbelievable, ridiculous. Without naming Voisin (obviously), he suggested anyone who wastes time discussing a coach under contract is, basically, wasting their time. He derided the rumor mill, and the need to discuss rumors in the new media age. (Note: I am overeloquencizing his points, surely. He basically just called Voisin's column stupid for a few minutes.)

This is where we as Kings fan differ from Napear, the consummate professional. As he oftens reminds us when disparaging a player, he "lives with the team" for seven months out of the year. He has seen as much Kings Basketball over the last 15 years or so as anyone. Probably more than anyone (given incomplete T.V. road broadcasts in prior years) but Gary Gerould or Jerry Reynolds. He is, for better or worse, part of the fabric of the Kings.

But he's not a die-hard fan. If you ran into Jerry at the grocery store and started talking about Byron Scott, and Jerry wasn't worried about giving away trade secrets, you know he'd talk your ear off about it. Because he's passionate about the team. He cares about the Kings with every cell of his being. If he could talk about any subject other than his family, he'd talk Kings Basketball. He'd talk Griffin vs. Rubio, he'd talk Scott vs. Jordan, he'd talk Kevin Martin runners and Francisco Garcia pull-ups and Jason Thompson rebounds.

Napear, on the other hand, thinks anyone considering a potential coaching candidate currently under contract with another team, a coach who faces wide rumor of his impending dismissal ... Napear thinks that's a waste of time. Napear thinks our time would be better spent talking about real things. Like, I don't know, the Yankees. Or the Giants. (The New York Giants.) Or the Diamond and Gall Vault.

This, in itself, is not a demerit to Napear's character. In fact, because Napear has well-rounded interests, he's probably a more stable, rational person than any of us maniacs who dare consider rumor and speculation to be useful or (gasp!) entertaining. Moderation is the path, and Napear's interest in the Kings during the offseason is clearly moderated. Cheers to that.

But this whole issue does speak to Napear's role as any sort of legitimate voice in the realm of Kings fans. As in, he has no voice. He's not a die-hard Kings fan. As such, he is not allowed to make decisions on what is right or wrong to discuss as die-hard Kings fans. He can't delineate to Voisin, me or anyone what is and is not important when it comes to Kings Basketball. Because he obviously doesn't care about it like we do.

(Now, this isn't to necessarily say Voisin is more passionate than Napear. I mean, she does have to write something. And there wasn't a whole lot going on last week. And the column, in my humble view, wasn't the most glimmering example of opinion journalism. Frankly, Voisin went completely overboard in the effusiveness of her praise of Scott, just as she has with John Whisenant, Bill Laimbeer, and -- yes -- Spencer Hawes. I'm as guilty of using the superlative as a crutch as anyone, and I should rightfully take lumps for my frequent over-the-top exuberence. But I try to back up my views with reason, which -- sorry, this is rude -- Voisin often avoids.)

All this is a long, bloviating and possibly rude way of declaring that, Yes Kings fans, you can discuss whatever you want. Columnists, you can discuss whatever you want. Everyone should be free to disagree with said "whatever." Vociferously, if needed.

But don't use your invisible high horse to tell people what they should or should not be thinking about or writing. Grant Napear, you are no arbiter of reason. You are no arbiter of taste. You are, frankly, a self-important jackass.

On that note, let us end with a current assessment of the Scott situation. Take it away, beat writer John Reid of the New Orleans Times-Picayune:

Scott's agent, Brian McInerney, said Monday afternoon that he has not heard from the Hornets about whether they want Scott to return for the last year of his contract next season or if they'll grant him permission to pursue another job.

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Well, now that NewOrl papers are speculating

its probably ok.

OK Peaches?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 5, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

That's

what irritates me about Peaches. He said that we shouldn’t even talk about it …. yet he hosts a talk show. What er we supposed to talk about, as far as the Kings go? Isn’t that what a fan is being about? So since we don’t know what pick we have, should we not even mention the name Blake Griffiin? Using his logic, there’s no point in talking about a kid who’s not even “on our roster” and since we “don’t even know if we can get him,” we might as well not talk about him.

He does act like he knows everything about the Kings, since he’s around them all the time. But to be completely honest, I’d much rather listen to the G-Man or Jerry talk Kings instead of him. They’re around the Kings just as much as Peaches is.

Peaches is a tool!

This suit is NOT black!!

by Dub_TC on May 5, 2009 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep

No speculating allowed. And on a sports TALK show.

Unless you massage him and say something nice about the NY Football Giants first. Then he might cut you some slack.

He needs to go, like ten years ago. But I think KHTK thinks the ratings are about him, not the fact that this is a one horse town for local sports talk radio.

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 5, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

I am so glad that ESPN Radio came to town. I need my Kings fix, don’t get wrong, but I’m just tired of Sportsline 1140. I wanna like Mike Lamb, but something doesn’t let me! Maybe it’s cause he works with Peaches.

This suit is NOT black!!

by Dub_TC on May 5, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hosts an EPIC FAIL talk show....

There is a reason that a poor-reception sports station from the Bay Area beats Peaches’ 1140.

by Bitey on May 5, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?!

Hey, he blustered his opinion in a classic sports-talk fashion, and now we’re talking about his opinion. Success! And…he’s wrong.

I like this clean version of kind-of air boxing. One person gets in the ring for a few minutes and throws punches, then gets out and towels off. The opponent gets in the ring and jabs, bobs, weaves, hooks and cuts, then gets out and wipes his sweat. Then we all go on for days about who we thought was better.

Ziller is my air boxing champ this week.

by left hand on May 5, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Not to be a jerk TZ

But this is why I don’t bother listening to Napear. I have no interest in pointing out the double entendre of Napear’s comments. The guy provides no real Kings news or information. He just spouts off about how he lives with the team for half the year.

And, so what? Exactly. This is why I’m basically re-stating what you already said. But, without writing it myself. I have never found 1140 useful, unless you want to talk about how bad “SportsLine” is.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 5, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Double Entendre? Hmmm, let's investigate

Put it in the book and send him to the line”
“If you don’t like that, you don’t like Kings Basketball”
Turn on the sprinklers, Kevin Martin is on fire”

Yep it’s true! Peaches is a recruiter for homosexual world domination. Wait a minute!

Pray
Every
Ass
Can
Have
Extra
Sausage!!!

It explains so much. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on May 5, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Sometimes you make me laugh so hard I cry

This is one of those times.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 5, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The World According To Napes

We should also not speak of prospective 2010 free agents, as they are currently under contract to other teams.

We should not talk about specific players that could help the Giants or A’s, as they are currently playing for someone else.

We should not talk about other guys that the Raiders could have drafted, as they are now on other teams.

The guy’s a peach.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 5, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You know who I feel sorry for in all of this? Ziller

He has to let his hatred for Peaches override his disdain for Voison and actually defend Ailene. TZ, I’m just happy you didn’t sink so far as to defend Voison’s points, just her ability to make them.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on May 5, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Semi-non sequiter here

But I have a friend who used to call in to Grant’s show under a fake name each time all the time and just propose the craziest trades the Kings should do, like trading for Kobe, just to piss Grant off.

Those were fun times.

by Aykis16 on May 5, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah!

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 5, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And...

picking on Peaches is like picking on a Special Olympics hurdler: you shouldn’t do it because its not fair and the can’t defend themselves. Plus, their both fucking retarded!

Will someone let Satan know that I’d like a chocolate cake with strawberry filling for my welcome party?

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on May 5, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't insult Special Olympians by comparing them to Peaches

I’m really offended.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 5, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't make the same mistake Obama made

with reference to the Special Olympics…

There are too many people out there that look for reasons to get pissed off.

by nothingbutnet on May 5, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are too many people out there that look for reasons to get pissed off.

Isn’t that the reason for this post?

Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'

by iashwash on May 6, 2009 4:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on May 6, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mr Ziller,

if I could I’d give you more than one rec. I agreed with the ending, especially.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on May 5, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

HIt the Buzz buttom

That’s even better.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 6, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

to not call napear a die hard fan is ridiculious

hes not saying that fans shouldnt talk about the possibility of byron scott
hes saying that putting it on the front page of the news is disrespectful to both byron scott and the hornets

by 31_FLAVAS on May 5, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

You make it sound like he politely suggested that it was disrespectful

when it was, by all accounts, a bitch fest about it being completely wrong. It’s the media. They’re allowed to speculate or give opinions. That’s what Voison was doing. Generally she speculates with no real reason or and without actual sources, but if the Bee says its okay for her to voice her opinion, then she should be allowed to.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on May 5, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care much for Peaches...

But I care even less for Aliene Vendetta. Let us not forget she almost single handedly ran a Hall of Fame to be coach in Rick Adelman out of TOWN with her shrill scathing rants on how horrible a coach he was and how his teams didn’t play any defense. Funny, I watched the Rockets last night beat the Fakers, and I think they played a little defense. Ailene condemned the man for not having the ability to coach defense when the real problem was Brad Miller and Mike Bibby couldn’t PLAY any defense. Miller continues to showcase his Ole’ defense in Chicago (how many times did he get posterized in that series against Boston?) And Bibby is still a defensive liability for all his offensive prowess… Let’s face it, the media in this town AINT Kings fans. NONE of them are. I believe Kozimore might be a fan. Gary Gerald is a non partisan objective voice. Peaches is an employee of the Kings organization, or MaGoofs Sports and Entertainment (not very entertaining these days). There is no doubt that clouds his judgment and opinions. He mostly sides with the Kings management in any discussion and cant be trusted to be objective no matter what he says. Mike Lamb is as phony as WWE, and has no loyalty to anything but continued employment. Mostly so he can rant on about the RayDUHS.

  Lets face it, only KINGS FANS are loyal to the Kings. The MOST ARTICULATE and ACCURATE reporting on the Kings is to be found HERE !! I found this site last year, and I come HERE for my KINGS NEWS! Where else will you find honesty in this age of biased media and reporters with agendas? No one here benefits from praising or condemning the Kings when they succeed or fail. I have ranted here many times, and I express my OPINION. I have read many rants here and have agreed or disagreed vociferously. You may not agree with someone’s rant, but you have every right to express YOUR opinion here. Try doing that on Peaches radio program and have him NOT AGREE with you, and see what that gets you. I am happy to read articles here and glean the info I need about my Kings here. There is TRUTH to be found here, a commodity in short supply in this media market.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on May 5, 2009 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know how many people caught on to this

But I compulsively highlight all the text as I read. For those who did not catch on… there is a beautiful little gem at the end of the second to last paragraph (highlight the text).

Thank you TZ. You have made my night.

Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.

by CAB on May 5, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Fantastic!

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 6, 2009 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

Somebody will have to explain it to me.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 6, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Highlight the article

And look at the end of the 2nd paragraph

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 6, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

*second to last paragraph

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 6, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did that and still dont' get it

If it’s that Napear is a self important jackass, well, yeah. No real newsflash there (despite how funny that was).

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 6, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You'd probably see it if you highlight the last two paragraphs

because it almost seems like you’re starting from the end of the paragraph.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on May 6, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I highlight everything too.. it’s why I was so excited about the ending.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on May 6, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey!

How’d that get there?

by Tom Ziller on May 6, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

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