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The Five Stages Of A Geoff Petrie Draft Pick

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WTF?!? John Wallace is on the board and we drafted Freedrag Toy-whose-a-vich?

During the Griffin/Rubio draft board recap, I traded back and forth with otis29 about breathlessly anticipating the StR draft day thread after Geoff Petrie drafts someone other than Griffin or Rubio with a top two pick. Simply, the threads that followed the drafting of Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson were classics. One StR member jumped off the Burg Dubai upon the Hawes selection, while the JT thread (which had to be extended not once, not twice, but three times) was bounced around the web as some of the funniest/saddest/angriest draft conversation in the history of Al Gore’s internet.

Petrie hasn’t had a lot of lottery picks over the years, but the ones that he has had have often been unconventional.

  • In 1994, Petrie had his first lottery pick, and he spent it on (then) small school product Brian Grant. Drafting small school players in the top ten was not quite yet in vogue, and larger school products such as Eric Montross, Jalen Rose and Khalid Reeves were still on the board. Not a major stretch, but early proof that Geoff Petrie would not follow the standard line when it came to draft picks.
  • 1995 was the selection of Corliss Williamson at #13. This was really no reach, as Williamson had been projected much higher in 1994 before he elected to return to school. Good, solid, no nonsense pick.
  • 1996 was the Peja pick, which was roundly booed at the draft party at ARCO Arena. The crowd favorite was John Wallace out of Syracuse, and Kentucky products Tony Delk and Walter McCarty were also popular choices. Can you imagine the thread had StR been up and running in ’96?
  • 1997 was Olivier Saint-Jean (Tariq Abdul-Wahad), a freakish athlete out of San Jose. Some liked Kentucky’s Derek Anderson, while others would have opted for Michigan’s Mo Taylor. Not a great pick in retrospect, but again a bit unconventional.
  • 1998 – Jason freakin’ Williams. Some kid that had a lot of flash on what little tape there was of him, since he was booted off his Florida team for imbibing in weed. Paul Pierce and Michael Doleac were both thought to be safer picks. The pick contributed to GP’s exodus from the lottery for the next several years.
  • 2007 – Spencer Hawes was not a surprising pick, nor was he really a reach. In fact, many mock drafts had Hawes landing in Sacramento. But many of the locals would have preferred Al Thornton, Al Bundy, or Al Davis over the Washington product.
  • 2008 – Jason Thompson. I mean, come on! We knew that he had worked out in Sacramento, but we figured that was tied to the 2nd round picks. Pick any one of a dozen guys that were thought to be coming here other than JT. Thompson wasn’t even invited to be in the green room at the draft.

Bottom line, Geoff Petrie can surprise people with his picks. And while I cannot imagine in a million years that he would pass on Griffin and/or Rubio to draft someone else, we must prepare our collective psyche’s for the unimaginable.

Inspired by otis29’s comments and draft threads past, I present the five stages of a Geoff Petrie draft picks:

DENIAL – “He didn’t draft that guy, did he?” “There is no way; they must have effed up the announcement.” “I’m having a nightmare; I just have to make myself wake up.”

ANGER – “F*ckin’ Maloofs! Now they have their noses in the draft!” “I’m done – where is my old Kareem jersey?” “I’m going out, and I won’t be back until I find a neighborhood cat to torment.”

BARGAINING – “Hey, we can change the pick as long as the next team hasn’t picked yet, right?” “That must have been a pick for another team – there must be a trade in the works. Yeah, that’s it.” “Come on, baby. Wake up…wake up!!!”

DEPRESSION – “I hate my life.” “Gee, maybe whenever we give up 100 points they’ll give out straight razors.” “We’re doomed as doomed can be.”

ACCEPTANCE – “You know, maybe the pick will turn out to be OK.” “GP knows what he’s doing, maybe we got a steal.” “Hmm, I think I’ll Google 2010 NBA mock drafts.”

Please study this easy guide. The 2009 NBA/StR draft day thread is less than two months away, and we don’t need anybody booking trips to Dubai.


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5 stages

Nice one, section! I need love a good psychological analysis. May I offer a draft version?

Killing ourselves: “I didn’t even think Darko Milicic was eligible for the 2009 draft!”

Imbibing: “Sweet liquor eases the pain. Looks like it’s suicide again for me.”

Numbness: “I feel nothing. This is how I imagine Eric Mussleman feels behind the wheel.”

Glib: “I don’t know if the Maloofs are mentally ill, and someone get Tom Cruise the hell off of my couch.”

Slavering: “This kid is going to be an all-star! And I’m talking this year! Is it October yet?”

We’re going to get better come June, and in the meantime, I’ll leave the acronyms to the professionals.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on May 6, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Millic

Has entered the draft, just in the form of Hasheem Thabeet.

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by Sac King on May 7, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you mean Darko Milicic?

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by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His name

Doesn’t deserve the luxury of being spelled right.

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by Sac King on May 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as an oakland raider fan

i went through this when the raiders selected Darius Heyward-Bey.

Its hilarious because I went through those stages hahaha. Now im in acceptance and hoping hes a steal ;).

Great post hahaha

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by Robby1987 on May 6, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard a great Al Davis draft day story....

A few years back (2001), the Raiders spent the typical 2-3 months of prep before the draft with scouting reports, internal discussions, player interviews, film analysis- the works. Al was no where to be found. Minutes before their 1st round pick, while the final discussions were being made, Davis walked into the room, announced the Raiders would be drafting Derrick Gibson and walked out without further discussions. 6 of the next 8 picks went on to make Pro Bowls, including Drew Breese, Todd Heap, Reggie Wayne and Chad Johnson- Gibson lasted a mere 5 years in the league, most of that time spent as a reserve.

Al Davis was crazy in 2001, he is even more crazy now. I feel for Raider fans, as a Niner fan, my team is in a decade long identity crisis but Raider fans might as well be living in Cuba. Al Davis is a tyrant.

Things can always be worse…unless your a Raider fan.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on May 7, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its a sad thing to be right now

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 7, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last years draft night thread was wonderful beyond belief

and beyond belief was the way we reacted to the selection of Jason Thompson at number twelve.

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by Bluejohn on May 6, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was crazy

and the reason I learned about StR. I’m thinking about calling in sick for draft day….

by eduardo_m7 on May 6, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a must participation

If you thought the game threads were fun, you have no idea how fun draft day was. It was like the apocalypse for everyone, even thought it was just Jerryd Bayless.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

Sactown Royalty draft threads – where the beer flows like wine

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I had a B-day party to attend

I looked up in the bar and said “What!” (I was a Speights guy by the end though I switched several times)

So I missed the fun

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 7, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thinking about having a STR draft party here at the house

but then I’d have to invite all you delinquents who should be working right now to my house – and who would be on-line?

Maybe the lottery, any interest?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 7, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can guarantee 2 people wont' show up

Me & Ex G.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly cause we're out-of-towners

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or all cuz of that lol

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't invited

:(

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by Kfan in Korea on May 7, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop being a Korean

It won’t be a problem. :P

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The selection of JT

Also netted the participation of Beagle, which I considered to be a major fringe benefit.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turned me to Sactown Royalty too.

I remember reading it back then when it was linked on Ball Don’t Lie and it was absolutely hilarious watching the progression go from excitement to shock to dismay.

Reading it again after the season makes it even more hilarious.

That night is the absolute epitome of the concept of In Petrie We Trust.

by jveezy on May 7, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haven't you learned by now?

GP knows what he is doing. Find me another GM with better draft record over the last decade.

I didn’t see much objection with JT. A legit 6’11 PF who could rebound with ball skills. People seem down on JT with the foul trouble but almost all big men struggle the first few years in the NBA with that aspect of the game.

by bignerd on May 6, 2009 11:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t see much objection with JT.

You weren’t here for the draft thread then. Perhaps disbelief is a better word, but people certainly didn’t rush to embrace it.

by cabz on May 7, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think a big part of it

Was that we had all gotten psyched up that Bayless was about to fall to us, and then the Blazers swooped in. That combined with a name a lot of people hadn’t heard, and we were a bit upset to say the least.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anthony Randolph

Will be a better pro than JT. JT is solid but nowhere close to the same athletic skill of Randolph. JT wasn’t unconventional, he was a safe pick.

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by Sac King on May 7, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randolph

Has a lot to overcome. He’s a freak of an athlete, but also appears to lack mental toughness.

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by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1- Randolph looks like a slightly more skilled Stromile Swift.

Some people see K-G, I don’t. To SacKing…Randolph was considered a top 5 pick on almost every board while Thompson was a early to mid 20’s guy. I have a tough time understanding how dropping back 10 picks is safer than moving up 7 which is what GP basically did when he chose JT.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess...

is that he meant ‘safer’ in the sense that Randolph is more of a boom or bust pick, while JT isn’t seen as having the same ceiling, but also wasn’t as likely to be a complete bust.

by cabz on May 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...

Thanks for the clarification Cabz.

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by Sac King on May 10, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

An actual conversation last year's draft day

LPKingsFan: Man, that’s too bad Lopez and Bayless didn’t fall, either of them would have been perfect.

Friend: Yeah, of course the year there are like 11 good players, we have the 12th pick.

LPKingsFan: Seriously.

Friend: So what do we do now?

LPKingsFan: well, Randolph is definitely the obvious pick. But I could see Petrie do something crazy again and pick like Jason Thompson or something.

David Stern: With the 12th pick of the 2008 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select…

by LPKingsFan on May 7, 2009 1:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty good insight/foresight

This is the last of the draft board posts from last year. As you will see, Roy Hibbert secured the 16th and final slot. Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush, Alexis Ajinca, and Ryan Anderson all received more votes than JT. From an StR standpoint, Thompson was no better than a #21 pick.

For extra grins, here is the entire draft board from last year.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 7, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if I stumped for JT like I did Speights

If I could have convinced more people to vote for JT. Hmmm, ego trips. I love ’em.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miss

We sure undervalued Lopez, didn’t we?

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is always a player we will undervalue

Just the nature of the beast.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I started stumping for Lopez at 3

Will admit to being wrong about Mayo, from what it looks like so far he’s the real deal. But Brook is legit, as I was trying to implore last year! Of course, I won’t start on what I missed last year…

by LPKingsFan on May 7, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lopez & Shawes would have been a nice combo

Even though I was totally opposed to the Kings even selecting him.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stumped for Hibbert

Not a horrible year for the kid…9th in PER among rookies, although he didn’t get many minutes. Anyone heard how Indiana fans feel about him after year 1?

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 7, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy with some in some aspects

Not happy with others. They think they could have picked worse talent at the 17th spot. It’s hard to disagree. (I think Blake Griffin would absolutely terrific in Indiana for instance.)

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya him and Granger would be a scary front court.

Nesterovic needs to be upgraded though.

by Aykis16 on May 8, 2009 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a FA

Griffin would be a terrific fit in Indiana if they jumped all the way to the first or 2nd slot (with a team taking Rubio ahead of them if they’re #2).

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 8, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As soon as Petrie makes the pick I am sold

8 out of 10 times he is usually correct. 15 years with the Kings and the only feasible draft complaints have been passing on Paul Pierce for Jason Williams and Douby for Jordan Farmar. If that’s the case against Petrie drafts than it’s time to go look at another teams draft history.

Another interesting note about the JT pick. Even though it was off the board, there were some TV analysts who were afraid to criticize the pick simply because of the man who picked it.

by bignerd on May 7, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely asking for Draft Day off work

Just for this. Also perhaps May 19th.

by Aykis16 on May 7, 2009 7:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I think this year I’ll skip the rest of the steps and go straight to acceptance.

Truly, we can’t get much worse.

Ok, people, let's generate all the good Karma we can until May 19. Then you can go back to your shallow and empty lifestyles.

by LeaguePassAddict on May 7, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I genuinely can’t imagine a way that I will be disappointed with the pick (so long as we keep it). I might be disappointed on lottery day, but not on draft day.

by furious.d on May 7, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot to mention

The reaction for Kings fans when we realize Petrie passed up on better potential prospect, that turns out to be much better down the road.

Still wish we would have taken Randolph…

This year Petire can’t mess up the pick too much- I take that back- Hasheem Thabeet would be a horrible pick. But as far as the first and second pick go, there is nothing “unconventional” or unknown to who will be picked, just stupidity if it does not happen.

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by Sac King on May 7, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll see

I know there’s a lot of buzz about Randolph, but I think the jury is still out. It’s always hard to really judge any player in a Don Nelson offense (or defense for that matter).

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 7, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Especially since Nelson will probably destroy his self esteem

ruining any potential he might have

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by vfettke on May 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

Nelson has that affect on his players. Still going to be interesting many years down the road and to see who progresses into the better pro.

Who did you want to see picked in the Hawes draft?

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by Sac King on May 7, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny, I can't even recall

But scarily, I was the voice of reason in the post-Hawes draft thread above. I was like a fish out of water…

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hated Hawes for several days

Then, slowly but surely, I came to my senses and studied his game. Spencer Hawes is why I don’t bitch & moan about whoever Geoff Petrie will draft. Read up’s can only take you so far.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose I did forget to mention that, Sac King

Just as you failed to mention that JT easily received more positive national pub than Randolph this year.

Time will tell.

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by section214 on May 7, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

Randolph is under contract with the Warriors, so we should be discussing him anyway.

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by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randolph's stats were heavily inflated

By playing in a 7 man rotation for the better part of 2 months.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

to read through last year’s draft thread. The awards for level-headedness go to Mucho Moss and Holmdel. Basically everybody else was some combination of confused, frustrated, and utterly pissed. Some came around, but not before multiple WTF!’s.

Obviously Bayless still has plenty of time to prove his value, but it is amazing that we had a guy who couldn’t steal minutes from Steve Blake this season three spots ahead of Westbrook on the draft board.

After reviewing all the predictions and reactions, a conclusion that should be obvious logically and anecdotally becomes clear: We can have a lot of fun speculating, and we might think differently than the powers that be about how the Kings can be improved, but we have absolutely no business challenging GP’s assessment of a player’s talent. He’s pretty good at it. We suck. That’s okay, I’m good at my own job. Let’s see you navigate the SEP-PR Database, Petrie.

by furious.d on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

P.S.

NBADraft.net’s assessment of Jason Thompson (which a couple of people quoted on the draft-day thread) was pretty impressively spot on.

by furious.d on May 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's how I cope

Always have, and always will. I scream, I holler, I curse (loudly, often and as degrading as humanly possible), I scream and holler some more, and then I say Okay, I can live with it.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the acceptance stage for JT

it involved several people saying “He could be the next Karl Malone”

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by vfettke on May 7, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And that was very wrong too (I was one of 'em)

Then again, who knows? Doubtful though.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He reminds me

and this is from watching his college ball (a few games and highlights and things) of a POOR-MANS version of Malone/Webber combined.

A very raw poor-mans version but a version none-the-less.

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on May 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least

that is what I said after he was drafted.

And to some degree (after watching him this year) he IS a version of both of those players. I agree with Thorpe though, I think Thompson will be one of the most improved players NEXT season from the 2008 Draft Class.

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on May 7, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely agree with that

I’ve always liked JT’s peripherals, and watching him play makes me believe that had Kenny Natt been such poor recognition on combinatons of which players worked well together, then you know, more production could have been had. This roster is just not simply that bad as they seem right now. Sorry to say that, but I feel deep in my bones it’s true.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 7, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The most angering part of it is...

We decided to completely rebuild AFTER Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, Mike Beasley, and a handful of others have entered the league. Our franchise decided to cling to hope that Brad Miller would be rejuvenated, Mike Bibby would regain his shooting touch, and Ron Artest would become what he has become in Houston. During those years, we competed just enough to keep us out of the top 5 in the lottery.

That being said, I would have wanted the 2nd pick rather than the 1st during the last two drafts. Having the 2nd pick would take all the decision making out of it and you couldn’t really be blamed for picking a Darko because EVERYONE would have made the same pick.

by blako on May 7, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor example

Many teams probably had Darko 2nd on their board, but plenty had Carmelo higher. And the next two picks in that draft were Bosh and Wade.

The last two draft have been clear 1-2 drafts.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we are both in agreement...

my wording might have been a little grainy. What I meant was, Dumars has had to live picking Darko over Carmelo because there was no clear cut 1-2 pick. The last two drafts did not have that problem (everyone would have taken Durant and Beasley). Therefore, even if they had turned into busts, Petrie couldn’t have been blamed for it because nobody picking 2nd in those drafts would have picked somebody different.

by blako on May 7, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND....

By picking 2nd, we would have avoided picking the wrong guy, if say, Oden or Rose turned out to be a bust, or rather, not as advertised (emphasis on Oden, although it’s still way too early to judge).

by blako on May 7, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

Yup, we’re on the same page

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by Exhibit G on May 7, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just read the 2008 Draft thread

you guys all had the same reaction as me.. Even with the picks of PEWII and Sean Singletary I was mad; I was hoping for Kyle Weaver or Goran Dragic.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on May 7, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Taylor

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on May 7, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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