Kings To Interview Eddie Jordan - Officially
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I'd love Jordan as head coach
But Philly worries me. It seems a much better situation.
Jordan better not Stan Van Gundy us.
If he comes to visit any and all FedEx/Kinkos better lock him out.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 8, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I don't see how Philly is a better situation.
Not a horrible team, but not awesome, either. They don’t have a lotto pick, and they’d be expected to improve from this season’s record, which given their squad won’t be an automatic thing.
The Kings on the other hand have young talent, a top pick, the worst record in the NBA, no place to go but up.
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by PhutureKings on May 9, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly
Is only a healthy Elton Brand integration away from being a top 4-5 team in the East. If you’re a head coach what would you choose….
A. Dealing with the rigors of a developing team in a small market, with an empty, aged arena and adding to your career loss column, for a couple years.
or
B. Develop a team with pieces in place, in the East, in a city like Philadelphia, all the while adding to your career wins.
??
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 10, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were a headcoach:
A) Money would be the largest influencing factor;
B) A situation where there is no place to go but up would be a consideration;
C) I’m seeking a long-term deal, so I’m not just looking at next season.
Given C), I think the Kings are in better shape, because EB doesn’t seem to be fitting in well w/the Sixers, Andre Miller is getting old (and might not even be coming back), plus you’ve got no lottery pick, and will be expected to take this team to the playoffs. Yeah, gee, how could I pass that up for a team w/ well-known ownership, free nights at the Palms, a great working relationship w/ my GM (who I know will be handily remaking the team over the next 2 seasons), a top draft pick, and be in situation where if I even sniff the playoffs I’ll be considered a god.
Plus, as much as I love cheesesteaks, I hate snow. I realize Philly will likey win more games next season, maybe even the season after, but if I’m in it for a 4-5 year deal, I like the Sacto situation.
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by PhutureKings on May 10, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All good points
If a little tinged with purple.
I hope EJ sees it the way you do.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 10, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I can admit to a slight Purple Haze.
I guess that’s what brings us all here, eh?
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by PhutureKings on May 10, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shh don't say anything
Law enforcement might monitor these boards.
by propane on May 11, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU JESUS!!!! ALMIGHTY LORD AND SAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!. I’m so sick of all these rumors! ex.( byron scott? and rick pitino?? what the hell was that about?) I really love the idea of Eddie Jordan as coach running are beloved Princeton offense! hopefully Geoff and the Maloofs dont Fuck this up! we really need a coach! GO KINGS BABY
by slamson on May 8, 2009 11:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pros and cons
Pro: Princeton offense
Con: No Vlade & Webber to run it
Pro: Eddie Jordan for coach
Pro: Not Michael Jordan for GM
I’m more for this than against it, I guess.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on May 8, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Spencer and JT can play in the Princeton offense.
by bignerd on May 9, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
So could Shaq, doesn’t mean it’d be great.
The youngsters have skills, but Eddie Jordan ain’t gonna make it all 2002 around here all of a sudden.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on May 9, 2009 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coachie will help though
Having a head coach who already knows the Princeton and who will surely use it definitely helps out the cause. Keep in mind, JT has been a guard for most of his playing career until he hit a growth spurt
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by vfettke on May 9, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love Coachie,
but am worried about what he can really accomplish due to his age restrictions and health. I can’t see him around past next year. The guy is due to turn 79 in July.
by nothingbutnet on May 9, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares where he played in Highschool
he doesnt look like a guard in the NBA and doesnt show guard skills from the four spot. Webber as far as i know didnt play guard in HS but had more guard skills in the Association. But heaven forbid you watch the games rather just continue to belabor silly points that have nothing to do with anything.
by passionforPERPS on May 9, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you're a bit a douche, aren't you?
I’d go on to make really good points about how JT’s passing skills, etc. will be key for the Princeton, but I can tell you’re the kind of turd I shouldn’t waste my time on.
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by PhutureKings on May 10, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To borrow from you, in regards to it not being 2002
Cons: We won’t go deep into the playoffs.
Pros: I had not met Mrs. Section214 yet, and I wasn’t getting laid much.
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by section214 on May 9, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Details Details
I love revealing details!!!!
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by pookeyguru on May 9, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way too much information
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by HighTops on May 9, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Section, same here though.
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by lifestyleforthesellout on May 11, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
but he is the best option at head coach for the possibility of making it ‘99-’00 around here again.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing this team will be most like
the ‘97-’98 team, which he coached.
by furious.d on May 9, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way that's possible
Just no way.
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by pookeyguru on May 9, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comparing Shaq to SHawes
what a joke. You might not like shaq but its no reason to get all dummy retarded. Shaq is and has been a top tier passing center, we’d have multiple titles if we exchanged Vlade for Shaq. Yea, he cant hit a jump shot but he wouldve been the lowpost presence we wanted Webb to be and Webb couldve chilled out on the elbow where he thrived. Dont let your hatred blind you.
by passionforPERPS on May 9, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad night?
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 10, 2009 4:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Captain Obvious, for informing us all that
Shaq is/was a great center.
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by PhutureKings on May 10, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this might happen,
as I pointed out in the Jordan to Sixer’s Article.
I am glad that they are moving forward. I would rather have Scott, but that is probably a pipe dream.
Time will tell..
by nothingbutnet on May 8, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Get them interviews going
I’m just excited the process is starting. Let’s get to work Kings, we got a team to build!!!
by eduardo_m7 on May 8, 2009 11:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There are worse options than Eddie Jordan out there
Better ones too, but more worse ones COUGH Fratello COUGH, sorry something got stuck in my throat.
by Aykis16 on May 9, 2009 1:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Make it happen
Players have quit on Scott before, both in NO and in NJ. He has the same bad habits as Adelman did (i.e. shortening your bench and leaving players in too long while a lead is dwindling). Agreed on the above sentiment that Jordan better not be pulling a SVG on us. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
With the fourth pick of the draft the kings select...
by kangsfan on May 9, 2009 2:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point
I’d be thrilled if they picked Jordan. It’s not an attractive group of candidates, and Jordan might be the best of the lot.
Question: What kind of bear is best?
by otis29 on May 9, 2009 6:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd
much rather have Jordan come back than have to hear about Pitino.
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by what_the_crap on May 9, 2009 6:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NO, NO, a million times NO
Any glint of optimism I have about the Kings becoming a legit contender in the next 5 years goes out the window if we hire Jordan. We probably will get back into the playoffs in a couple years, making fans happy that we finally are back in it. He might even get a second contract out of it, but we will NEVER get deep into the playoffs with him as a head coach.
With a “less proven” candidate you may whiff and end up with a guy like Muss or Theus, but you also may hit a home run and find the next great coach in the league. I would rather take that chance of whiffing than go for a retread who brings NOTHING to the defensive side of our team.
Seems like it will happen though, because he is the ultimate Petrie/Maloof compromise coach. He is a big enough name, comes with a good enough track record, and will come at a decent enough price to satisfy the Maloofs. He brings the Princeton back to town for Petrie, and will be enthusiastic about the offensive/skill oriented players that Petrie loves to draft.
by TheRaven on May 9, 2009 7:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Petrie is the difference between the Kings and the Wizards
He’ll help put together a much better team than Jordan had.
Another thing to remember is that those playoff squads in Washington were constantly injured too.
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by vfettke on May 9, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team is young and immature.
You need a professional to run it and someone who won’t be here today and gone tomorrow. That is why Geoff has said he’s looking for a coach who has had previous success in the league because these rookie coaches are not commanding enough respect and we need someone who in the eyes of the players isn’t going anywhere, thus they must shape up. Continuity is important and the guy can coach, I really cannot understand your rampant pessimism.
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by moproblemz on May 9, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
You need a professional to run it and someone who won’t be here today and gone tomorrow.
Nail meets head. No more experiments.
by Ziller on May 9, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is probably why Ettore Messina won't be considered
Although I wish he would be.
by Aykis16 on May 9, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They
were the worst team in the league last year …. trying to become a legit contender in 5 years shouldn’t be their focus right now. Getting to .500 should be, then work from there.
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by what_the_crap on May 9, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?!?!
I completely disagree.
Shoot for the moon and end up with the stars.
Setting a goal for anything less than a championship is a waste.
Frank Army
by BPaoliano on May 9, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine
we agree to disagree. To me, talking about a championship anytime soon is dumb, in my opinion. If I’m wrong, then I’m wrong. I’ve been wrong before, and I’ll be wrong again!
Peaches is an idiot.
by what_the_crap on May 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right about this:
In the western conference you won’t get to the championship without being at least a .500 team
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by Bluejohn on May 10, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more chances, please
I’m more comfortable with Jordan than an unknown at this point. Let’s get someone in here that can at least get the ball rolling in the right direction. It’s not as though coaches get signed to 7 year, $123 million deals. The hiring of Jordan has limited risk, and virtually no down side.
I’m in.
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by section214 on May 9, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd cuz that's what I'm hoping for
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by pookeyguru on May 9, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
and Rec’d. Perfect.
Peaches is an idiot.
by what_the_crap on May 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the right direction & how do we get going that way
I’m not trying to be funny, or put you on the spot, but if the goal is to be a playoff team and a contender, what’s the best way of going about getting there.
Here’s some statistics to make my point: 78, 78, 84, 85, 86, 88, 97, 107
That the aver pts put up by the losing teams in the first round of the playoffs. If you eliminate the overtime games between Boston & Chicago, the aver. pt total for the losing teams in the first round was 86.
So, I think I’m safe in saying, that if we want to go past the first round of the playoffs within the next 3 yrs, we’re going to have to learn to play Defense. We’ll have half of our rotation, under 22 and with little college training except for JT. Every player on the team could use help learning to play team defense.
If the goal is to watch an exciting brand of motion offense and win 45 games a year, then by all means hire EJ. If the goal is to compete in the playoffs and possibly win a championship, then hire someone who can teach defense.
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by HighTops on May 9, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you implying that the NCAA game helps kids become better defenders?
Because if you are, I can’t see how that is possibly true. There is no such evidence, outside of hyperbole, that that is the case.
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by pookeyguru on May 9, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No,
I’m saying that Donte had 1 yr of college, Spencer had 1 yr, and unless there’s a big surprise in store on draft day, our 1st round pick won’t have much college experience. So, unless these guys and our other draft picks learned the intricacies of playing defense on the streets or high school, then they’re going to need a lot of training.
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by HighTops on May 9, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's equally true of Kevin Martin
And Jason Thompson too. They need to get better defensively. It’s not always just about the coach or the level of experience a player has at the college level.
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by pookeyguru on May 11, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hole in the theory
You don’t need to play great defense to get to the playoffs. You do need to play great defense to win championships.
Right now, should our focus be on winning a championship? No. Getting to the playoffs? Probably not. Winning 30+ games next year? Absolutely.
And I disagree that the head coach has to be a defensive guru. Doc Rivers was never known for his defensive chops, and Phil Jackson has never been recognized as a defensive mastermind. But they hire staff that does focus on that aspect, and as a head coach they support that segment as a part of the overall strategy. There is nothing that says that EJ can’t bring his own guy in, just like Rick Adelman did with Elston Turner.
The thought that hiring Eddie Jordan automatically means that we won’t play defense is silly. Almost as silly as when it was said about Rick Adelman, before he got to Houston.
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by section214 on May 9, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes that really ironic about Eddie
Was that he was known for his defensive prowess at Rutgers and later on in his NBA career, which is probably best known for his time with the Lakers when he won a ring in ’82.
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by pookeyguru on May 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EJ or his assistants might be able to teach defense
I just don’t believe that’s the best option. I’d rather have a coach that is known to teach defense and let him bring in an assistant that can work with Coachie to teach offense.
On winning 30+ next yr, the teaching of defense & specificly team defense in no way interferes with that goal. And, I believe that it is going to take yrs for the lessons and the practice of team defense to become engrained Which makes it essential that the training start as soon as possible. If the goal is to win championships, then you don’t want to wait until you make the playoffs before starting the learning process. You want to start now.
I told you what I thought, but other than winning 30+ games, what is your vision of the direction we should take?
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by HighTops on May 9, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, but
what “known to coach defense” coach is going to automatically defer to Carill on the offensive side? Fratello, JVG? Me no thinks so. You could make a case that Thibideau (sorry, tool lazy to spell it correctly) would do it, but he is not exactly a known commodity.
So the question is, who is the coach that is known to teach defense that will bring in an assistant to work with Coachie? I ask this because I can be easily swayed. I’m sold on EJ only as the best current available option, not as a panacea. Give me someone that meets your specs that I can get excited about.
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by section214 on May 9, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think a defensive coach is available
Chuck Person
by betweentheeyes on May 10, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
With you section
I’m still waiting for someone to name better candidates that are likely to take this job. JVG? Fratello? Would they let coachie do his thing and help out as much? Who else is out there?
by eduardo_m7 on May 10, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone know what any Head Coach would accept.
Without being part of the interview process or having personal knowledge, it would be a WAG. But, since you brought up Tom Thibodeau, I could see him as the defensive specialist and I would team him up with John Thompson III as the Princeton specialist.
Lord only knows if either would be willing to come here, but since you asked that would be my preference. JVG, Scott & Elston Turner might be worth interviewing for the head coaching spot. Hopefully, the Maloofs are over their Adelman histeria and would consider Turner.
But for the price the Maloofs are willing to pay Thibodeau & Thompson might be the best duo. Tom is JVG jr. & according to Coachie (can’t find the actual quote) Thompson has advanced the art of the Princeton to include big Centers. Plus if Tom doesn’t work out having John Thompson III as your interim coach might not be such a bad thing. I know there’s no NBA Head Coaching experience, but hopefully that’s a guideline and not a requirement. And, maybe they can find a ex Head coach willing to assist like they did in Chicago.
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by HighTops on May 10, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only problem is -
The Kings are on record as saying they want someone with previous NBA head coaching experince. This would seemingly eliminate TT and ET.
So again, the question is, would a guy like Fratello or Van Gundy let management dictate their coaching staff and the offensive philosophy? And while you are right that you cannot know for sure, my educated guess is that neither Fratello or Van Gundy would give up their current cushy jobs for a coaching post that limits their coaching chops, much less the fact that they will have less say in personnel matters than perhaps they have had in the past.
So the question then becomes, would you be willing to part ways with Carill and the Princeton to bring in JVG or Fratello, versus retaining Carill and the Princeton while bringing in Jordan?
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by section214 on May 10, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the question is "Did GP back himself in a corner on purpose?"
Since the options are so limited did GP set the requirements knowing that the guy he wants fits into the guidelines that he set, or did he set them without realizing that in the end he would be limited to just a very few prospects.
That’s why I have been saying the I hope he hasn’t unknowingly back himself into a corner. I hope his requirement aren’t a knee jerk reaction to Muss & Theus. We might end up losing the best candidate, trying to not make a mistake.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on May 10, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully disagree
A first-time NBA coach is going to be under incredible pressure here, as they will feel the need to win right away. A tenured NBA coach will buy a little extra time, due to his pedigree. Jordan (for example) will initially be given more rope than (say) Elston Turner, JVG or Fratello would be given more wiggle room than Tom Thibodeau.
The important thing here is that this hire may not be the coach that ultimately returns the Kings to greatness. But he will need to be the guy that rights the ship. I think that a veteran coach has a better chance of making that happen, which is why Petrie set that as a parameter. I don’t see that as painting himself into a corner. I see it as the proper approach when addressing the myriad of issues currently facing this team and franchise.
As always, I reserve the right to be 100% wrong about this, but I feel that Jordan is the best fit for the Kings current needs, at least when it comes to any of the candidates that have been mentioned to this point. That said, I would be thrilled if an even more qualified candidate became available. I just don’t know who that might be.
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by section214 on May 10, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your never 100% wrong, and I'm never 50% right.
No one taking over this team should need wiggle room or extra time. It should be understood that any improvement, is the most we can expect.
The new coach should come in with a long term guaranteed contract, with the understanding that his job is to develop a rebuilding team with a bunch of young players.
With two first rounders, and even a slight improvement on the injury front, and this team would be better with Pookey coaching them. ;p)
Rather than have a retread, who will only be around for a short time and then be replaced again by some unnamed coach, I’d rather have a coach that can teach & learn along with the roster, and someday be our Sloan or Pop. But, then I’m in it for the long haul, and don’t have to worry about making a payroll next year.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on May 11, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just better with me coaching?
Ha! Greatness sir, is all I tolerate…..
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by pookeyguru on May 11, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew I could count on you
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by HighTops on May 11, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try HT
Mostly fail though.
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by pookeyguru on May 11, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that we don't pull a Beno here
and hire him without looking into other possibilities because a single reporter mentioned another team might be interested in him. I’m in the camp of there are worse, but there are defnitiely better. It’s hard for me to get behind a coach with a sub .500 record, injuries or not. Plus I think there was some strange crap going on when he left NJ and suddenly magical rumors appeared that he was the real reason for NJ’s suceess.
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by SavageBeast on May 9, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind EJ
but I do want the organization to look at other candidates just because it is the right thing to explore all your options. To me, bottom line is, we need and experienced coach and no more experiments, we just can’t afford that anymore. Whether EJ only takes us to the first round of the playoffs and then leaves so that someone else takes over (someone who wold take us farther), we need stability for years to come.
What other candidates are out there that fit what we are looking for (experienced, some success) that are better than EJ?? Again, I’m not really on the EJ camp but I don’t see that many other coaches out there…. Remember to stick with what it seems the Kings are looking for, no assistants, no college coaches. Who else is really out there??
by eduardo_m7 on May 9, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and1
Not saying this is going to happen but…. remember the detroit championship team?? You can’t really give credit to Larry Brown for being there for the whole process, right? If I remember correctly, Rick Carslile did a great job with that team and then LB took over to take them to the next level. If EJ proves not to be the guy who can get the team a championship I would be satisfied if he at least gets us close and someone may take over later to continue the process
by eduardo_m7 on May 9, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed completely with both your comments
Maybe some of the anti EJers can mention some better options for THIS team.
As I recall Adelman did not come in to the worst team in the league either.
With the fourth pick of the draft the kings select...
by kangsfan on May 9, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EJ may be the only candidate that meets GP's 3 criteria & the Maloofs monetary restrictions
I hope that the 3 criteria established by GP are really guidelines and not set in stone. Otherwise, I think a lot of potentially good candidates might be eliminated.
It was a mistake to hire Theus because of his lack of NBA experience. But, to overreact and eliminating anyone without successful NBA head coaching experience could be just as big of a mistake. There are new head coaches in the league that look to be doing ok. (Miami, OKC, Chicago) And the truth be told, all the great coaches today got hired to their 1st NBA head coaching job without any NBA head coaching experience. Duh.
I really hope GP doesn’t pass on the next Chuck Daley, because he got burnt by Muss & Theus.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on May 9, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're talking about an assistant I would agree with you
An existing coach outside of Jordan I do not.
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 10, 2009 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there is much choice on this
I really hope GP doesn’t pass on the next Chuck Daley, because he got burnt by Muss & Theus
Three misses – one with prior NBA experience (success on some level), and one without NBA experience, and then another with NBA experience but not as a Head Coach (you must include the hire of Kenny Natt).
That leaves three losing seasons with three unsatisfactory coaching choices. Further, a public statement from a man who has the dignity to stand behind his words, which he choses carefully, to hire someone with NBA Head Coaching experience and success on some level. The statement was worded to eliminate assistant coaches and foreign coaches and WNBA coaches. That still leaves a number of candidates, Eddie Jordan is just the most likely.
by betweentheeyes on May 10, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
EJ is the most likely candidate to make GP happy.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 10, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
I think there is a need to emphasize the fact that we are in this situation because of the mistakes of the past. Definitely Muss, definitely Natt, and to a degree Theus were mistakes and we are now paying for that. We just can’t take another chance on an assistant or inexperienced coach because of the past 3 years. It sucks, but that’s just the reality of the situation. You have to minimize the risks and try to slowly improve this team. Blame whoever you want, but it is what it is.
Like I said before, if that means bringing EJ and getting more wins and ‘only’ getting back to the playoffs so be it. Once we get back to that level, we can move on to the next phase which is trying to win the whole thing.
One big thing to point out is that this next coach is not necessarily going to be the coach that will get us that ring that we all want. We would be really lucky if that were to happen. Just like the roster will change if it’s not good enough, so will the coach in the bench if he’s not capable to get us to end of the race. For now, let’s stabilize the franchise and start heading in the right direction. That’s all I ask
by eduardo_m7 on May 10, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point, asking one coach to take the team from 17 wins to the Championships is asking a lot
It is very possible that EJ is not the coach to take us to the championships but he could very likely be the coach that brings this team back to competency, relevance and respect andd that would be a huge improvement. I’m not saying he can’t get us to the 2nd round or higher just that it’s possible that he might not be the guy to take us all the way.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
by Bluejohn on May 10, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, playoffs, championships...
ten win improvement per year for the next three seasons would be a dream come true. Beyond that, the Kings are need the horses to pull them to the next level no matter who is at the reins.
The Kings need to start with a coach. EJ or whomever. Then gather the pieces and hopefully get some stars. No announcement for Coach pick until after playoffs?
by betweentheeyes on May 11, 2009 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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