Policing Ourselves
Instead of dispatching a gestapo of silent assasins to rid StR of trolls and idiots, I want us all to police the site and reject any sort of slippage into unsavory existence. We can do this three ways:
1. Flag. If it's spam, flag it. If it's inflammatory, flag it. If it's useless, flag it. I'll check the flags when I can and make nuclear decisions.
2. Rec. The best way to kill the spirit of the idiots is to rec the good stuff! Not just comments and FanPosts, but FanShots too. Not everything belongs on the front page, so I don't a lack of an FP to imply something isn't good. So I rec FanShots. I think I'm the only one.
3. Ignore. I won't lie: sometimes the "feed the trolls" threads end up being hilarious. But they really must be nuked to keep our place as tidy as it has been for its nearly four-year existence. Honestly, it's much better to flag and move on than to feed the fire of stupidity. Cut off the oxygen. These idiots want your goat. Keep your goat indoors. Keep it safe!
For my part, I'll post up some FanShot/FanPost guidelines later today as a reminder to the valued Royalists with valued thoughts who just don't quite have the system down yet. I'd love to get to a point where we have so many wonderful FanPosts I have to raise the rec minimum for Recommended FanPosts. (We already have higher standards on that than most SBN NBA blogs.)
Thanks to everyone for the contributions. Now let's drown out the idiots for good.
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Great -
I hope that Amazon will take this back…

Sorry, trolls. Go forage for sustenance on your own. You’re dead to me.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 11, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
That's awesome
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 realz pplz
Jus agree w mai opinyunz n i wont hafta hayte on youz
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 11, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
That hurt my brain to type that
My apologies.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 11, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My brain hurts reading it
So I feel your pain. :)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you think all of your Evil Cowtown Inc readers feel
all two of ’em
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jun 11, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suffer internal hemmorhaging
every time I visit.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
How do you think Greek King feels since I mistaked him for you
It’s all your fault your Greek pretending douche.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
He must feel awesome to have been mistaked for me ok!
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would want to be mistaken for you?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suffering
My eyes usually don’t start bleeding until the 3,000th word of the intro paragraph
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 11, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean
when he wanders off on a different tangent, and then spends 1000 words apologizing for wandering off on a different tangent, but how its important anyway? :P
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly though
His tangents usually provide more insights than my full articles…
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 11, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly
I happen to disagree. But, that’s okay.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
since I'm one of them I guess that makes me a StR Royalist and an EC Loyalist
and I have one ridiculously stupid question: How do you rec a fan shot ot post?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
by Bluejohn on Jun 11, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the bottom of the post/shot
and click the green rec button. Its right above where the comments start.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might have to click Actions
first, to open up the Flag and Rec choices.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 11, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bj
Aykis’ statement is also how you flag said fanshot/fanpost/comment as well.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been busy last night flagging those punks and the idiot from GSoM
thanks
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
by Bluejohn on Jun 11, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They got mad because they don't get it
If they want to criticize Sac for being small and inconsequential, I can make fun of the Bay for being silly, over-populated, and over-expensive. If they don’t like it, fuck ’em.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hear Hear!
We shall obey, o mighty Wizard of Woodland. We stand in awe in front of your awesome ban hammer of truth, which hath slain many a vagrant troll beast.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KAY
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen"
~ Michael Jordan
by ChiBullsFan on Jun 11, 2009 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
DNFTT - Recognized as Do not feed the trolls, is sufficient going forward when those dastardly devils enter our fifedom.
on Wikipedia, the literature origin comes from Judith Donath where she writes, "Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group’s common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they — and the troll — understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll’s enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.
Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling — where the rate of deception is high — many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one’s online reputation."
This is an answer even Cliff Claven would have adored.
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 11, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"keep your goat indoors"
I head the same thing from my prom date’s father.
Bastard.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 11, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
*heard...not "head"
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 11, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the joker who flagged my post ...
… well played, sir.
by Ziller on Jun 11, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Ha
That’s comedic genius right there. Betting it was Section.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm betting it was too
Otherwise he wouldn’t have said it the way he did.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't me,
but I know who it was, and I stand in admiration…we’re going to miss you around here. :)
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 11, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Bye. Had to say it was fun.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
I’m rec’ing this in honor of whoever flagged the post
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 11, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Ziller pisses us off we can just go and flag every post
in every thread. The dreaded Flag Troll.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 11, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If my lack of posting continues...
…will I beome a troll?
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jun 11, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does being an anti-troll count?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
27FT raises a good question:
What, exactly, is a “troll”?
Is it the identity deceiver described by SactownHeart a few comments above? The shit talker or hater from some other fan base? A marketer looking merely to divert traffic to his/her site? Or is it something even less despicable?
Am I, a frequent reader but infrequent commenter, a troll? Does it depend on each person’s level of activity and obsessiveness as to STR?
Can the troll be distinguished from the imbecilic poster/commenter, or are they one and the same?
And if idiocy is the central concern, how is it to be judged? Are there any standards of quality that govern people’s contributions to this site? I think we all value the level of content here, and are grateful that it is a significant step above the innane banter on the SacBee comment page, but there does seem to be a sense of elitism here that is juuust a tad ridiculous for a fan site about a basketball team. Sometimes I feel bad for those unwitting bastards who submit a substance-free musing on the team or a harmless anecdote about Mikki Moore chasing them down in the ARCO parking lot. The attacks on these guys are a little over the top.
Finally, is a troll someone who don’t got good grammar or writin skillz? How about someone who is ignorant of essential web etiquette mandates such as FanPost vs. FanShot length? If so, what’s the STR tolerance threshold for those less eloquent and less web savy? Any standards? Or will arbitrary totalitarianism rule the day here at STR? I would harly describe this site as being populist. There are benefits and drawbacks to that, I suppose.
All I ask is that, before the dictatorial iron fist falls, consider taking some small measure of mercy on the innocent and well-intentioned Kings fans who dare venture into this snake pit.
by corbin on Jun 11, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone say snake?

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 11, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will teach those trolls from crawling into our Snake Pit!
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 11, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the snake and what's the troll?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap!
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 11, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not a troll
Nothing you’ve ever written sticks out to me, but that’s mostly because you post infrequently.
That being said, if you don’t know what trolling really is, it’s just best that you probably keep it that way. Ignorance is bliss, and knowing the secrets of scary people is usually not wise.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
This type of post by TZ happens far far less frequently than pretty much any other sports blog I’ve regularly visited. Or most message boards for that matter. Using the term “dictatorial iron fist” in relation to this website is highly amusing.
And yes, there is some elitism here (guilty as charged). Color me crazy, but I think anyone who is a new guest in someone else’s house should pay a few visits and spend some quality time before they take a shit in the sink. We get far too many jackasses that come in, guns blazing from the first post, and tag the long-time posters here with the label of “groupthink”, or imply we don’t know what we are talking about. Those people can kiss my ass – twice if they like.
However, I’ve seen plenty of new members join the site and immediately add to the conversation and general knowledge. Many of the excellent fanposts here recently have come from relatively new members. I think those posters are treated pretty well overall, with at worst a small bit of help in matters of posting etiquette and board procedure.
Ultimately, we are pretty self-policing. TZ generally steps in when we’ve batted around the obvious trolls a bit too hard, and gives us a bit of gentle chastising. I wouldn’t really read anything more into it.
by otis29 on Jun 11, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would kiss your ass twice
But I just don’t swing that way.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some "things" (this is code for brace yourself--rant is coming)
I’ll admit I went to GSoM and stirred some of the hornets nest. I did that last time too. But, I’ve noticed that GSoM expects that people agree with their regulars there (like Jae) or hell must be payed.
Thing is: I don’t agree with Jae. He keeps stating that Spencer Hawes CAN’T improve his rebound rate. I disagree with that. It’s not that I’m a homer about this stuff; I just think that Spencer’s total impact has not been helped by the difficult coaching circumstances and his time played in the league.
(Actually, that’s not what Jae is saying. He’s using data he’s collected for the last, nearly, 30 years and arguing that the trend suggest Hawes won’t improve his rebounding rates.)
Nobody here was more disconcerted by Spencer’s 0 rebound game vs Atlanta, or his awful bounce back game against Charlotte the next night, than I. At the same time I don’t think he’s been utilized to the best of his ability. (Like the ability he has now and not necessarily any abilities he could develop over time.) If he only gets 8.5 boards for the season, and that’s all he gets, than I’ll go along with GSoM’s opinion of him.
The problem is I’ve felt the whole thing is just to simply define how important THEIR guys are by proving how little valuable players like Hawes has to the Kings. Which is why I’ve chafed so often, so continuously over there despite the obvious strife it’s caused.
Some people saw some of the stupid crap that was flung about Sac over there. (Or here.) Do I care about that stuff? No. But, at the same time, I don’t feel any reason to prove I’m nicer than they are by laying low on my real opinion of the Bay Area. I don’t care for the place. If I did, I would be living there.
None of this has anything to do with StR. I just thought that the whole reason it irks them is because they don’t get it. They are like a ton of fanbases, and blogs, where if opinions aren’t being agreed upon and generally agreed with, it’s not going to go over well. There are a lot of taboo subjects, and we just scratched the surface of those. Oh well.
I suppose the reason why I don’t translate well into places like GSoM is that StR is not that place. That’s a credit to TZ, 214 and recently G I suppose, but the community in general just as much if not more. We let a lot go in the name of making a point. You can talk about politics here to a limited degree that it has an overall point or doesn’t detract from the overall topics.
That’s what makes StR so special. Censorship is stupid; in fact it’s harmful. It keeps actual discussions from happening. It’s safe to say, I think, that most of StR was against Prop 8 from happening. (I bring this up because I saw a kid reading a Seattle “Gay” newspaper, and it talked about the legalization of Prop 8. Of course there was a rally in Seattle. And, I bet in SF & LA too. And, this means what?)
The point is that this stuff tends to be taboo because that usually detracts from the conversation which is, and should largely remain, basketball.
But what line do we cross when we talk about Artest’s issue with his dog or why his wife throws a pot at Artest’s Hummer windshield? (Talking to my mom the other day she laughed saying that’s what Artest gets for driving the Hummer. She said this after hearing what happend between Artest & his wife. Or hearing about the issue’s and whatnot. Needless to say she doesn’t take domestic abuse lightly, but even she gets there is a line of what’s reasonable and what is not.)
At what point do we cross the line of saying what’s basketball and what’s not? Yet another reason why I like StR. (And Artest not being here. I get tired of that crap quickly. Like, immediately after it happens.)
I like the topics here because they routinely get at the heart of the matter. Quality fanposts are usually pounced upon quickly (see furious post today about Westphal for the recent example of this), and the bad crap gets flagged and thrown in the trash where it belongs. (Or it does when TZ gets around to it. I gotta admit it’s fun to poke the morons with a stick and see how much fire and vitriol they got.)
The only reason I’ve ever stuck around StR because the language, while sometimes foul, is top notch and among the best anywhere on SBN. Only Blog a Bull strives for a similar quality, and like StR, there is no real language barrier.
When you start introducing limits, and saying what’s acceptable or not, you also limit the quality of what can be argued, enjoyed and discussed. I’m glad StR is not that place. If it was, I would have left almost as quickly as I re-entered.
Thanks, everyone.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 5:36 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Well stated Pookey
As an aside, did I see right, that Blazers Edge has gone military on administration of their blog?
by otis29 on Jun 11, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have moderators now yeah
It was needed with the way Dave runs Bedge.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said
Don’t give me any credit for this, though. I just happen to write a lot, and I try to hold my writing to some sort of standard. That is something I learned from this community. I found a home here. I quickly checked out other SBN Blogs for my other favorite sports teams, and was sad to find that they could not match the quality of StR. Good sources of information to be sure, but not the wealth of information, passion, research, and dialog.
We can respectfully disagree on points. We can joke with each other. We can be a community. But don’t give me credit. A lot of people showed me the way, and have been much larger parts of making this site what it is. The kudos belong to quality contributors (too many to list, but we all know who they are), old and new.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 11, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But don’t give me credit
Right, because you have no influence on this community. And, umm, you’re a stupid Indonesian also.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
G let me rephrase this
Long before you became a front page author, your humor caused many to follow your lead. It was fun to read along,and comment with, because it was your brand and your style being exhibited. Nothing was being forced or mandatory, and it shows why StR is what it is. The creme rises to the crop. You’re just a recent example of said phenomenon.
You’re one of many reasons why StR is a rich & palatable place. Thanks, dude. Seriously.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exhibition of style
It was fun to read along,and comment with, because it was your brand and your style being exhibited.
Would this be his G Style?
by smgmatt on Jun 12, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's G
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 12, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
what makes a post not worthy of being up? I thought I just posted a conspiracy video of how the 85 draft was rigged, but i think it was taken down. Is semi serious content like that banned?
by ivAAron on Jun 11, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
also
possible that in my first attempt at posting a video I did it wrong
by ivAAron on Jun 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You did it wrong
But, also, that is pretty stupid too. We’re aware of it already, and we’ve already told the guy who made those video’s not to post them. (And, by we, I mean the community here.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just
assume you are calling the idea of Stern rigging the draft stupid and not me stupid for posting a video I just saw today, and found funny in relation to all the people lately saying that the draft is rigged. I think it’s just common sense that not everyone has been viewing every post every day since this sites inception. I’m sure you laughed at those videos the first time you saw them too. Not try to ruffle anyone’s feathers here. I’ve been going to this site for reading material for a while now (and even more so now that the Kings are in the state they are in) but hadn’t made a name or posted anything yet. Looks like I’m getting off to a rocky start in the posting department. My bad if I ever post anything in the future that has already been posted once before. Good talk. Everyone keep up the good work in making this site function. Here’s to a solid draft. Cheers
by ivAAron on Jun 11, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you're not an idiot
So that’s a good start.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TZ - once again, hats off (not your cap) for making and keeping this site in shape
your joy, pride and devotion are evident. Thank you. I realize you have a team and they deserve “big ups” as well.
I have but one request. It is about flagging as I just can’t ignore it. Could you please erase the adjective “poor man’s” from the StR lexicon? I beg you.
And thanks again.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 11, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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