Pre-Draft Workouts - **Final Update**
by sroufe on Jun 23, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
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PrintThe following is a comprehensive listing of pre-draft workouts for the Kings. Please stick with me as I’ll provide a few observations as well…
Notable Prospects that have worked out for the Kings, in Sacramento:
DeJuan Blair, F, Pittsburgh
Derrick Brown, F, Xavier (Viewed in Oakland and New Jersey also)
Nick Calathes, G, Florida (Twice in Sacramento; Viewed in New Jersey also)
DeMarre Carroll, F, Missouri (Viewed in New Jersey also)
Omri Casspi, F, Maccabi Elite (Interviewed in Chicago; Viewed in New Jersey also)
Earl Clark, F, Louisville (Interviewed in Chicago)
Darren Collison, G, UCLA (Interviewed in Chicago; viewed in Oakland and New Jersey also)
Stephen Curry, G, Davidson
DeMar DeRozan, G, USC (Interviewed in Chicago)
Toney Douglas, G, Florida St.
Wayne Ellington, G, North Carolina (Viewed in Santa Monica also)
Tyreke Evans, G, Memphis (Twice in Sacramento; Interviewed in Chicago)
Jonny Flynn, G, Syracuse (Twice in Sacramento; Interviewed in Chicago)
James Harden, G, Arizona State (Interviewed in Chicago)
Josh Heytvelt, F/C, Gonzaga (Viewed in New Jersey also)
Jrue Holiday, G, UCLA (Twice in Sacramento)
Brandon Jennings, G, Lottomatica Roma
James Johnson, F, Wake Forest (Viewed in Santa Monica also)
Jerel McNeal, G, Marquette (Interviewed in Chicago)
Patrick Mills, G, St. Mary’s (Viewed in Oakland; attended Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso, Italy)
A.J. Price, G, Connecticut
Ricky Rubio, G, DKV Joventut (Twice in Sacramento - no workout on first visit; Also viewed in Spain by Geoff Petrie)
Jermaine Taylor, G, Central Florida
Marcus Thornton, G, LSU (Viewed in Oakland also)
Terrence Williams, G, Louisville (Interviewed in Chicago; viewed in Oakland also)
Sam Young, G, Pittsburgh (Viewed in Oakland also)
(Also worked out in Sacramento: AJ Abrams, Jeff Adrien, Aron Baynes, John Bryant, Dionte Christmas, Robert Dozier, Brandon Ewing, Levance Fields, Tony Gaffney, Lester Hudson, Aaron Jackson, Damion James (withdrew), Marcus Landry, Gani Lawal (withdrew), Chris Lowe, Leo Lyons, Kyle McAlarney, Ahmad Nivins, Tyrese Rice, Tyler Smith (withdrew), Goran Suton, Jerome Tillman, Tremaine Townsend, Robert Vaden, Greivis Vasquez and Ben Woodside.)
The following worked out for Kings representatives in New Jersey on June 12th-14th: Connor Atchley, Jimmy Baron, Patrick Beverley, Derrick Brown, Chase Budinger, Nick Calathes, DeMarre Carroll, Omri Casspi, Dionte Christmas, Darren Collison, Lee Cummard, Austin Daye, Paul Delaney, Wayne Ellington, Taj Gibson, Danny Green, Taylor Griffin, Luke Harangody, Paul Harris, Josh Heytvelt, Lester Hudson, Joe Ingles, Gani Lawal, Eric Maynor, Wes Matthews, Jack McLinton, Luke Nevill, Ahmed Nivins, Jeremy Pargo, Josh Shipp, DaJuan Summers, Jermaine Taylor, Jeff Teague, Ryan Toolson, Greivis Vasquez and Luke Zeller.
The following also worked out for Kings representatives in Oakland on June 1st and 2nd: Derrick Brown, Chase Budinger, Omri Casspi, Dionte Christmas, Darren Collison, Austin Daye, Taj Gibson, Daniel Hackett, Tyler Hansbrough, Luke Harangody, Joe Ingles, Damion James, Gani Lawal, Ater Majok, Eric Maynor, Patty Mills, BJ Mullens, Luke Nevill, Jeff Teague, Marcus Thornton, Terrence Williams and Sam Young.
The following also worked out for Kings representatives in Santa Monica on May 22nd: Ryan Ayers, Wayne Ellington, Gerald Henderson, Aaron Jackson, James Johnson, K.C. Rivers, Josh Shipp and DaJuan Summers.
Notable prospects that have NOT worked out for the Kings in Sacramento:
Rodrigue Beaubois, G, Cholet International (Attended Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso, Italy)
Patrick Beverley, G, Dnipro International (Attended Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso, Italy; Viewed in New Jersey)
Chase Budinger, F, Arizona (Viewed in Oakland and New Jersey)
Victor Claver, F, Pamesa Valencia
Austin Daye, F, Gonzaga (Viewed in Oakland and New Jersey)
Taj Gibson, F, USC (Viewed in Oakland and New Jersey)
Danny Green, G/F, North Carolina (Viewed in New Jersey)
Blake Griffin, F, Oklahoma (Interviewed in Chicago)
Tyler Hansbrough, F, North Carolina (Viewed in Oakland)
Gerald Henderson, G, Duke (Viewed in Santa Monica)
Jordan Hill, F, Arizona (Interviewed in Chicago)
Jonas Jerebko, F, Angelico Biella (Attended Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso, Italy)
Ty Lawson, G, North Carolina (Interviewed in Chicago)
Sergio Llull, G, Real Madrid
Eric Maynor, G, Virginia Commonwealth (Interviewed in Chicago)
Jack McClinton, G, Miami (Viewed in New Jersey)
B.J. Mullens, C, Ohio State
Jeff Pendergraph, F/C, Arizona State
DaJuan Summers, F, Georgetown (Viewed in Santa Monica and New Jersey)
Jeff Teague, G, Wake Forest (Interviewed in Chicago; viewed in Oakland and New Jersey)
Hasheem Thabeet, C, Connecticut (Interviewed in Chicago)
Observations:
The only players to have come to Sacramento more than once are the following: Nick Calathes, Tyreke Evans, Jonny Flynn, Jrue Holiday and Ricky Rubio. Calathes is an option at No. 23 and possibly No. 31. The rest are all certain lottery selections. Rubio's first visit consisted of a physical but no actual workout/drills.
The only potential centers to have worked out for the Kings are Josh Heytvelt and John Bryant. Heytvelt was also viewed in New Jersey.
Clearly, the Kings are highly unlikely to select a player that has not worked out for them in Sacramento. This would exclude the following, among others, from consideration: Rodrigue Beaubois, Chase Budinger, Victor Claver, Austin Daye, Danny Green, Tyler Hansbrough, Gerald Henderson, Jordan Hill, Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, B.J. Mullens, Jeff Teague and Hasheem Thabeet. **Update** - Chad Ford's most recent mock had Daye going to the Kings at No. 23...further confirming that he has no idea what is going to happen Thursday evening from Sacramento's perspective.
Projections based on these findings:
Barring any draft-day transactions, the most likely candidates to be selected at No. 4 include: Curry, Evans, Flynn, Holiday and Rubio. Rubio, Evans and Flynn seem to be the highest on the Kings' draft board of these players. For what it’s worth, my current opinion is: Rubio>Flynn>Evans>Curry>Holiday.
Again, barring trades, among the most likely candidates to be selected at No. 23 include: Derrick Brown, Nick Calathes, Omri Casspi, Wayne Ellington, Patrick Mills and Sam Young. Of just these my outlook is thus: Casspi>Calathes>Mills>Brown>Young>Ellington.
Finally, some of the most possible selections at No. 31 are: Darren Collison, Toney Douglas, Josh Heytvelt, Jermaine Taylor and Marcus Thornton. Add these to the mix and my ranking right now would be:
Calathes>Brown>Heytvelt>Young>Ellington>Thornton>Collison>Taylor>Douglas.
With the recent development of Minnesota acquiring the No. 5 pick from Washington, and a possible scenario of Minnesota somehow moving up to No. 2, perhaps the odds of Rubio falling to No. 4 are not as high. Nevertheless, my (current) official prediction is: 4) Ricky Rubio, 23) Nick Calathes, and 31) Derrick Brown. If Rubio were to be selected second by the Grizzlies (for Minnesota) or Thunder, I'd be in the Jonny Flynn camp at No. 4.
I have been thrilled with the organization’s willingness to provide so much information regarding these workouts. I look forward to Thursday and the anticipation building as the draft draws ever closer. **Update** - The anticipation is killing me.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Thanks sroufe!
Technically, Brandon Jennings has not yet worked out for the Kings, but that will happen today. But overall, great information. I agree with your ratings as well, except I might move Curry back behind Harden.
He said through June 13th you douche
Or did you not read that part?
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Only if you're in LA
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Did Thompson work out in Sacramento last year?
Or did they just see him in Oakland? I can’t remember.
I believe both
They saw him in Oakland, liked him, brought him in for a small group work-out with Anthony Randolph and others … I think.
You are correct
Once in Oakland and actually twice in Sacramento: http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/013555.html
Classic JT line
We just spoke to Thompson on a conference call, and I’ll provide some of that in a bit. But the more entertaining conversation with Thompson was the one that happened when he called back.
After speaking with a Kings rep about which jersey number he would wear, Thompson – who wore No. 1 in college – kept swinging and missing with every pick. No. 1 is retired in honor of Nate Archibald, and there were probably four “nopes” after that. So for the moment, he settled on No. 34, which would be his press conference number but could certainly be changed later.
Then minutes later, Thompson called back with another pick – “Is this the Kings?” he said when I answered the media room phone.
“Yeah, is this Jason?” I answered.
“Yeah, it is,” he continued. “I wanted to know – is (No.) 15 gone?”
Since I knew the answer, I figured I’d settle the matter rather than go looking for the Kings PR man Darrin May.
“Yeah, that’s John Salmons’ number,” I said.
“Oh, okay,” he said. “Thanks.”
Click.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 12, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Had never read that before
that’s classic.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
I thought Randolph refused to workout for us
At least I remember hating him for that and hoping we wouldn’t draft him.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 12, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
If you lose this ...
I’ve added it to the featured post in the right sidebar until the draft. Feel free to edit, sroufe. You’re the man.
Thanks TZ...
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sroufe, suddenly in the last two months or so there have been several posters here who have "broken out" and you
are one of them man your stuff is constantly well thought out and presented, never derogatory towards either posters or players and best of all I always learn something from reading them. Since yesterday (just learned how to rec) you are my second rec.
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I thought I had broken out as well
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by misterbrister on Jun 16, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice write-up
However, I am curious if anyone has a Stephen Curry work out DATE for the Kings? I keep hearing he will work out, but when specifically?
This is a great resource
Thanks for posting!
I find it interesting that we haven’t brought Curry in for a workout. But it’s probably because he more or less duplicates what we already have in K-Mart.
Man -
Some of you guys are sure making up for the recent FanPost loss (and front page gain) of Exhibit G. This stuff rec’s, I mean rocks!
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There has been a marked increase in everything
on this site over the last 6 months or so. Thankfully, we’re getting some really good fanposts, like this one, to help offset the increase in “the less desirable visitors”, to put it kindly.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
< / bans self again >
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 13, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ricky Rubio video interview on Bee
Hey STR folks – shameless self promotion here, letting you guys know that we spoke with Rubio this evening. The video from the exclusive interview is here – http://tinyurl.com/lddzds.
by samick on Jun 16, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
Write a fanpost dude
FOLLOW THE RULES, MAN. Sheesh.
OK, seriously – great job getting the interview and with the Kings coverage in general. You’ve far outshined your predecessors.
Thanks for the link
Great interview. Kid would look great in purple.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Sam (I can call you Sam, right? LOL)
Definitely make a fanpost next time so that everyone can see it and know that you were here. Thanks for all the hard work, Kings fans appreciate it
Dude deserves a rec'd
thanks for the input Sam Amick. This should be greened.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 16, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
done deal
Thanks SAmick I Amick.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 17, 2009 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You should add the Rubio workout today to the list.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Looks like Tyreke Evans is coming for the Curry-Douglas workout on Sunday
and Sam Young is coming on Monday.
The only explanation
I can think of is that Petrie is 100% sure Lawson will be gone by No. 23 or that he’d take him anyway, without having him come to Sacramento. That or Lawson refused to come here.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Could be either
Petrie said on KHTK this afternoon that he’s not opposed to drafting a player he hasn’t worked out. He prefers it, but it’s not an absolute rule.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
You're right...
Sure, but I still think it’s unlikely in a supposedly weak draft. Lawson would be an exception were he to fall to 23. Jeff Teague would be as well.
For most players that haven’t worked out in Sacramento, like Budinger or Summers, I don’t think Petrie would pull the trigger on them over a player that did workout like Young or Brown.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
I don't see two guards
I know, I know, TBPA but – I don’t believe it. That leaves me with one of the SFs (we don’t need) or a faller. I say Mullins, Young, Hansbrough, Clark (unlikely), Daye, maybe Blair – but a big man unless we suprise veryone and get/pick Thabeet at 4 (we’d take him if he was there), if that happened, throw my list into the sh*tcan.
(What is a sh*tcan anyway? Where did that expression originate – and do I want to know?)
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by lietothegirls on Jun 23, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I firmly
believe that most, if not all of the players you mentioned will be gone by No. 23. Quality big men are going to be scarce that late in this draft. Of the players you stated only Young will probably be available. But I might even consider Thornton or Ellington over Young.
The most likely post players to be drafted by the Kings include Derrick Brown, Josh Heytvelt and Omri Casspi. Maybe throw in a Euro like Claver or Jerebko at No. 31. Other than that I don’t see it.
I also disagree that Petrie would select Thabeet at 4 if he were available but I’m not going to elaborate…
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
I think Pendergraph might come into play
Especially if the Kings can’t move Nocioni. They’ll have more needs to shore up in the front court.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Good point
He’s one of the few bigs that should be available at 31. Taj Gibson should be gone so that would essentially leave Brown, Brockman, Heytvelt and Pendergraph all in that range. Another possibility there, as long as we’re discussing post players that haven’t worked out in Sacramento, is Jerebko.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Gibson is another
Thanks for pointing that out.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And I also forgot
about Demarre Carroll. According to Ford, Sacramento has an interest in him. Carroll did workout for the Kings in Sacramento and in New Jersey…
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
I guess
Carroll wouldn’t qualify as a big though. He’d be a SF. I think a fair comparison for Carroll might be Luc Richard Mbah a Moute or Dominic McGuire.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Yeah I definitely prefer Brown and Pendergraph
Rather than re-writing it all here, just click on EC Inc. I explained why.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thanks
I agree with you on the 4) Rubio/Flynn, 23) Brown, but I’d put Heytvelt at 31 well before Pendergraph.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Don't like Heytvelt
He’s a better rebounder than Pendergraph, but what I like about Pendergraph is that he is what he is. No more or no less. I like that about him. I’d prefer somebody more ready to play than I think Heytvelt will be.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Actually no not even that
He’s not even better at rebounding than Pendergraph. So, hell to the no.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's fine
LOL, I’m not going to argue who’d be the better No. 31 pick! I just feel that Heytvelt possesses some skills that Petrie is known to value in a 4/5 and that Heytvelt has impressed in workouts.
I don’t hate Pendergraph by any means and if he were the Kings selection at 31 then I’d be happy. I just think it’s unlikely he’d be picked over someone who has worked out in Sacramento at that point.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
FWIW
What do you think the odds are that Brown is available at 31?
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Lower by the day
Much lower.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think
Petrie likes Evans at #4 and Casspi at #23 if he is still there. That is if everything goes according to plan. Just a guess but who the hell knows.
by Kidden on Jun 23, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Probably isn't going to happen
But if for some reason the draft goes Griffin-Rubio-Evans or Griffin-Evans-Rubio and Thabeet is still on the board at 4, do the Kings take him? Or do they continue down the point guard list or take DeRozan or Harden?
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jun 23, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions
Flynn would be our pick... assuming the information given out is correct.
It could all be smokescreen and we are secretly after someone else, who really knows anymore.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
I agree
I think Petrie takes Flynn over Thabeet unless he has a trade in place with Minnesota or someone else lower that wants Thabeet that badly.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Sure...Sam
Rubio>Flynn>Evans>Curry>Holiday
More like: Evans>Rubio>Curry>Flynn>Holiday
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