Brandon Jennings Stirs the Pot
by Ziller on Jun 12, 2009 12:48 PM PDT
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At the post work-out press availability, Brandon Jennings apparently went off on the hype around Ricky Rubio. Sam Amick says The Bee will have video soon. This is a placeholder for said video.
The Paul Westphal introduction press conference will begin at 1:30PM. The Bee and Kings.com will both have streaming coverage.
UPDATE: Video.
UPDATE #2: Ben Golliver from Blazers Edge (@blazersedge) wins with this perfect analogy --
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They probably will
Sam is quick about getting these up. My hope is that they are up before Westphal’s presser.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Possibly the first interesting thing ever said in a pre-draft interview??
Also, Brandon, a warm welcome to Rubio Skeptics United.
Finally, somebody said it!
Sure, it was cocky, but the Rubio hype train has been out of control for awhile now. Hell, even Petrie described RR as “a You Tube sensation”, as related by one of the readers/posters/stalkers here on STR.
I’m still not sold at all on Jennings, but I do like his candor. Was it calculated? I doubt he’s a calculating type of person. Honest? Brash? Absolutely. That’s not a deal breaker for me.
Anybody who goes to News10.net
Will get re-directed to Kings.com. I don’t know about any other station. I’m going to try & have both up, but I doubt it will matter.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's really good around 5:30
Paraphrasing: (about Rubio) “If you had a workout with me, Jonny Flynn, Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Stephen Curry…. he would not come out on top.”
Later: “I think I’m better than him. I think I can shoot the ball better. The only time I’ve seen him do anything was when he was throwing a home run pass or something. I think the dude is just all hype and I can’t even front, I just have to be real with you guys.”
Jennings struck me as more honest than immature. I mean, he should know better than to say that, but he didn’t sound delusional or
I third your sentiments
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
My personal opinion is he did it solely to create headlines
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No
I think Jennings saw the opportunity to create headlines. I don’t think he’s unaware that SHC baited him into the question (which he did but who cares?).
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I don't buy it.
The Kings put these guys together for a reason and I think Jennings let the fire carry over into the interview process.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Yeah
It was done on purpose. Jennings wanted it that way.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah
I got the sense that he’s been a bit pissed about all the Rubio stuff for a while, and he just got a little carried away and let too much of it spill out. I think we may end up getting a little bit of backtracking from him (his agent?) so that he doesn’t come across as a punk.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 12, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree-
He looked immature, he sounded immature, at one point he was sucking on the top of his jersey like a 5 year old. And then he dropped very immature statements to go with his body language. I see red flags all over this kid, something I did not see out of Johnny Flynn who looked and acted like a professional prospect. All flash- that’s what I saw out of Jennings interview. With his draft stock dropping, I think he came in here trying to get some attention.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
I didn't get that at all
I’ve had questions about the guy’s character, but he sounds like an extremely confident cat. I didn’t sense he was purposely trying to badmouth Rubio (although that may have been the end result), but he was speaking honestly.
If anything, that little press conference made me feel better about Jennings than I had previously.
Ya
I loved his confidence. And apparently he backed it up at the workout.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
They know each other
It’s not like he knows Rubio won’t hear it. It’s not like they haven’t spent time around each other AT ALL before all this went down.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Um ...
at one point he was sucking on the top of his jersey like a 5 year old
What? I’d hate for you to see me walking home after a work-out, when the collar of my t-shirt is typically halfway down my throat. You’re reading too much into his body language. It’s an odd set-up there, super close proximity and bright lights after you just killed yourself on the court for two hours.
That setup was just as bad as the video Givony shot of him in May
That was actually worse.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I've interviewed a lot of people...
a red flag is anyone who starts talking trash about other people. Playing with Johnny Flynn is one thing but messing with someone who wasn’t there to defend himself, as a player or fellow interviewee is bush league. This was a professional interview for a mulit-million dollar job, I just get a very poor read on this kids values.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
by jjham15 on Jun 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Come on
I’ve interview a lot of people as well, but it was a far different environment than a testosterone driven professional sports league. You’re comparing apples and elephants here.
+1
Even though I’ve never interviewed anyone.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I've interviewed an apple...
…but never an elephant.
Although I did talk to Pook’s mom the other day.
Ba-Zing! JK, dude. you;re the one guy I feel I can give a hard time on this site :)
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 12, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If you talked to my mother
I hope you aren’t going to jail soon. She’s a lawyer.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And criminal defense at that
Haw, I’m kidding. She stopped practicing a long time ago. :)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He wasn't really talking trash.
He was stating that he played better than Rubio; I see a guy with a chip on his shoulder.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 12, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you JJ -
the kid has head-case written all over him. Point guard is supposed to be a selfless position. Sure there is a chance that he’ll mature over time, but he’s not the type of kid I’d like on my team. And I do think it came off as desperate.
Sure, I agree that Rubio should work out in front of other teams, but Jennings should worry about himself and not Rubio.
Totally agree
Sure, I agree that Rubio should work out in front of other teams, but Jennings should worry about himself and not Rubio
Can't agree with you more...
…this is spot on. He’s seemed so unimpressive out there. I think the mental game is what will eventually lead him to becoming a B-U-S-T in the NBA.
"The only time I’ve seen him do anything"
Funny. There’s some footage of the DKV-Lottomatica game where RR easily blows by Jennings twice, first in the pick & roll, later one on one. Didn’t see him, I guess.
http://www.basketcentral.it/webtv/video/187/eurolega_dkv_joventut_vs_lottomatica_97_93.html
by draftjunkie on Jun 13, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
One time (at least in the highlight)
Jennings got hip checked on the screen and the big didn’t hedge. Can’t blame that on Jennings.
The other time Rubio definitely caught Jennings napping.
Man, I am liking this cat more and more.
He’s not even on the court and he’s already doing some trash talking (the point guard statement, and now this! ). I like that this dood is not afraid. I’m still torn between him and Evans; I’m just glad it’s not my decision to make.
Listen
I’m so far Old school it was a one room school, but, trash talking when you’re playing your opponent is one thing, trash talking when he isn’t around to prove you right or wrong, to me,is punk.
+1
Punk is what I saw.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Why would we want a trash-talker
as the face of our franchise. Geoff Petrie is our GM. As Ziller points out, he is the definition of class. Just my opinion, but I think Petrie would agree with JJ here more than the rest of you saying he was just being honest. Perhaps he was showing his immaturity and jealousy. Did you see Flynn joining him in the bashfest? No, Flynn was laughing because what else was he supposed to do there? Sure, he probably agrees and thinks he could also take Rubio, but he’s letting his game speak for him, not his words.
I think it was a poor move that will hurt him in the eyes of many GMs. What is he going to say in interviews when frustrated that the Kings are losing most of the their games next year? He showed a lack of respect and a lack of maturity.
I know a lot of you will not agree with me that this shows he’s immature, but you cannot argue that he showed a lack of respect. He has the physical tools to be a good player, but I don’t think he’s a King… at least while Geoff Petrie is GM.
by KeonClark on Jun 13, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I could see Petrie looking over his comments and still picking him
But everyone else echoes my thoughts. Good stuff KC
If Rubio would just workout
I think it’d solve a lot of questions. But In Petrie we trust.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
I agree
Why isn’t he doing work outs, anyways? Is he hurt?
by Pollard4LIfe on Jun 12, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if he is FAST...
Geoff Petrie doesn’t draft players with the type of attitude put on display by Jennings. You can now cross him off the list of players in plat at #4.
by LASportsCentral.com on Jun 12, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Jason Williams had a bad repuation, but he was quite. No body knew who he was. The guy didn’t say boo. Jennings is good, but out-spoken. That’s the difference.
by LASportsCentral.com on Jun 12, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
But he did have some attitude issues
people with no attitude problems don’t get kicked out of school
www.mancancook.net
Jason Williams
Got TRADED from the kings. And who has Petrie drafted since then? High character guys, which Jennings, according to the limited views I’ve seen of him (and I’ll admit that perhaps its not fair to judge him based on limited views) is not a high character guy.
Well
if u gonna poor mouth someone at least remember ur stats ….
The one game that he faced Rubio ?
‘’ We played about the same minutes ’’
Well RR 8:34 and Jennings 22:54
‘’ I had about 12 points and 6 assists ’’
At least he got his points right…. cos he got just 2 assists …
And it was RR second game since coming back from his wrist injury …
Not saying i am for Rubio or sth but man … learn ur stats!
Said Van Gundy about the situation: "(Spanoulis) says, 'I was [Tracy] McGrady back home.' Great. McGrady is McGrady here," ..
by GreekKing on Jun 12, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Suck on that, BJ!
I’ll admit, I liked his swagger, but at the same time, it raised questions to me of where this guy’s head is at.
Swagger is good.
But it does concern me that his ego may get in the way of his realizable potential (a la Starbury).
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 12, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you can tell if a 19 year old is a good kid or not.
And I don’t think this is a good kid. I see lots of problems down the road- the Kings don’t need to babysit someone’s kid, especially with all of these other guys available. Jennings better have been head and shoulders better than Flynn and Holliday.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Talent will cover a lot of that
Kobe Bryant went from a beloved character at 19 years old to a villain due to his offcourt foibles. Michael Jordan had more vices than you could shake a stick at – and was apparently a huge jackass in the locker room. I’d still take either of those guys on my team in a heartbeat.
So while you may be right jjham – I think you might be overreacting just a bit.
I agree
19 is young but personality usually sticks around. He’s talented and may be a good player but so was Stephon Marbury. I’m looking forward to seeing how these guys do against each other. Holiday just turned 19 and got way more class/maturity/humility than Jennings.
He had more than 2 assists.
USA Today’s story says Brandon finished with 12 points and 2 assists, though I know that’s wrong because Brandon had two assists in the first four minutes of the game.-SLAM
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 12, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't get awarded assists in the Euroleague as easily as in the NBA
If it doesn’t directly lead to a score, it’s not an assist. If the guy catches it and dribbles and shoots, it’s not an assist.
Yes...
but it also explains why Jennings thought he had like 6 assists. He wasn’t trying to trick anyone.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 12, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
So he counted his assists in his head during the game
and then didn’t check the stat line after the game?
I don’t buy it. I think he didn’t want to say he had only 2 assists so he said a number that sounded good. He also said he played 30 minutes, which wasn’t true either.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe the team's internal numbers are accurate
And USA Today’s weren’t is all, which is what we see.
Or, he just misremembered. Pretty easy thing to get wrong without trying to trick anyone about it, especially since it’s easy to prove himself wrong.
Mortimer
Nice theory
Did the team’s internal numbers have he and Rubio both playing 30 minutes too?
I think he was just talking trash. I don’t think it was a big deal. Not real classy, but not a big deal.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It was 25 minutes or so, right?
That feels close enough to 30 for a game a while back.
Yeah, he was just talking trash, I agree. He’s young and probably sick of this 13 year old kid getting all the hype!
Like others said in reports about the game, the USA Today boxscore is likely wrong, so we can’t really say if he was adding a few assists to make himself better or that is just how he remembered it. I don’t think that point is as important as the fact that it was a game where Rubio was just coming back from injury and still seemed (from reports) to hold his own and then some.
So, wrong game to brag about winning the head to head battle in and all.
I appreciate his candor and that he is willing to work out against other top prospects when his age and potential would make him a lottery pick regardless. I wish Rubio would, since the athleticism and size jump is such a huge one from Eurolandia to Americandia.
Mortimer
Eurolandia to Americandia
That’s good even for you Morty.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 12, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I remember well
Ricky came back ahead of schedule because the lack of depth Joventut had at PG, and he was playing with some stuff on his hand, and couldn’t (and didn’t) shoot the ball.
Maybe it wasn’t that way on that game, but he was playing like that the first games when he came back.
Anyway, we’re comparing a stablished star against a guy who was fighting for minutes, an olympian who proved himself (as a HS senior) against all-stars against a big mouthed kid.
If I can get a little Nostradamus, I predict Jennings will be a TJ Ford: fast, nice offensively, but at the same time hurting team chemistry, a hole on defense and a locker room bomb
Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!
If Sac passes on Rubio to draft Jennings
I will ban my self from this site.
by southern oregon on Jun 12, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I want something more entertaining
Like coming to the first game dressed as Rubio complete with mop top…if you do I’ll start a Rubio chant.
22 minutes and Rubio only played 8
So, him saying “we both played about 30 minutes” was just absurd.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly what I was thinking
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
I misphrases what I wrote
I meant he could have thought himself played 30 mins.
The rest I agree on.
M.
Atually the official numbers are available from Euroleague
you can see them here.
Ricky had 3 assists and 1 steal and 3 turnovers in 8:34 he did not attempt a shot. Brandon had 2 assists and no turnovers or steals in 22:54 with 12 points 0-2 from 3 and 5 for 8 from 2.
thanks
for the link
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
i rec'd
because the information from the link was useful.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
Well
If his talent matches Kobe’s half as much as his mouth does, he’s in good shape.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions
Bottom line
If bringing on a few brash jackasses lights a fire under this team, so be it. If the talent is there, the rest can be dealt with later.
Agreed. There's a spectrum of bravado
From: “I legitimately think I’m better than that guy”
to
Ron Artest style: “I actually think I am as good as Kobe Bryant, therefore demonstrating that I am completely delusional and have lost touch with reality.”
I think Jennings was closer to the former than the latter. No one ever said athletes are supposed to be humble. It helps if their opinions bear some resemblance to reality, but Jennings wasn’t completely off the handle.
Nobody watched the movie Ali?
Haha
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 12, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure how I feel about this
on one hand it was immature to say it. But on the other hand he’s had more exposure to Euro-ball than any of us so he might know a little more about the situation. I can’t watch the video, so its hard to tell.
And as far as I’m concerned, Rubio is all hype. He’s hype and potential. He hasn’t done anything amazing yet. It’s the potential for amazing that everyone is looking forward to
www.mancancook.net
Hype
Leading a short-budget team to the 5th seed of ACB, only after Barcelona, Real Madrid, TAU and Unicaja, which are by far the deepest-pocketed teams in Spain.
Holding himself against NBA all-stars. Remember this point, he’s the only guy in this draft who can say this.
No one talked about defense, and Ricky is among the best defensive PGs right now.
Ricky is 1/3 Gary Payton, 1/3 Jason Kidd and 1/3 Steve Nash.
Jennings is what? A TJ Ford?
Hype and potential is what Jennings is, Rubio is the only guy in this draft who has proven himself. Of course he has flaws, as every teenager has, but he’s the most sure thing there is in this draft.
Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!
I get that your Spanish
But if you were going to make a comparison to Jennings, Tony Parker is a much better comparison. I don’t like comparisons so I won’t make them.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yes, I'm spanish
In fact, I live 9 metro stops from Joventut’s arena, and I’ve seen Ricky play many times, and I can say he’s one of the best (if not the best) defensive PG’s I’ve seen, and at the same time he’s an amazing distributor, and knows when to go to the basket, and he’s proven himself against the best of the NBA.
Hype is what’s being made after a press conference. I can also get on a mic and say I’m better than any of them and get all cocky, sadly I’m too old to get drafted, I could’ve made some money.
About the comparision, Tony Parker? A best case scenario, I see him more like a TJ Ford, but here in Spain we say opinions are like arses, everybody has his own and nobody wants to smell anyone elses.
Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!
By the way, some video for those who don't remember the Olympics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5mpST596qU
Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!
We've seen it Dani
NBC actually had a way for you to watch all the games with the US involved.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Actually
It was possible to watch all of spains games as well, not just US (and i did).
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
PRESSER IS ABOUT TO BEGIN FOLKS
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's being held up
I just think they’re making us wait right now.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
jennings has always been brash
google some of his comments duirng his high school days. not surprising at all.
Is anyone else having terrible audio problems?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Kings.com feed is far better
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Or at least right now it is
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Its on TV here in Sacto
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Yeah well that's not my issue
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It ok Pook- its not in HD and it looks shitty.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Yea it's all good JJ
Sound is more important here. It will be replayed.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Westphal needs a hair cut and Gavin still looks pail and unhealthy.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
I think Jennings really set me off.
I just don’t like the punk ass bitch attitude- I don’t see competitor, I see big mouth who takes way too much of the coaches time and energy to keep under control…and that’s before he starts dribbling a ball. Reining in an over zealous player like J-Will is hard enough, managing Gary Payton will J-Will’s on court antics is tooooo much for a young team IMO.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
by jjham15 on Jun 12, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough
Funny how we differ so much on that, considering I’m about as far away as you can get from being a Jennings’ fanboy. I was hoping to find something I didn’t like about him, but what I saw didn’t really bother me. He certainly seemed brash, but I found him to be more articulate and intelligent than I expected.
We seem to have disagreed on a lot lately...
just like old times! What I like about you Otis is that you fight the good fight when you make up your mind o something. It was you inside the Alamo after the Hawes pick- standing alone with a shitty musket and a big knife.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
If Jennings is anything like Gary Payton...
Westphal should LOVE him.
Uh…oh, yeah.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 12, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
698 on direct- comcast sports
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
this is a little off topic...
….but since this about brandon jennings. he was at my register at the natomas target last night. i wanted to talk to him, but target has rules about that kind of stuff.
Rules
Dude, I’d totally break the rules and risk my job in order to ask a few questions of him. Especially after this incident.
But I find it odd that Target has rules against speaking to European basketball players.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
No shit.
You can’t make small talk with someone? Target has great customer service…
…for me to poop on.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 12, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
we can make small talk
its just we cant ignore the other people that need help also
by SolidWarSnake on Jun 12, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And you followed them?! If they actually fired you for something like that, it would have been worth it anyways.
im a cashier
so i dont go around and stalk nba players in the store. i also met candace parker, JT, and the guy that does all vids for the kings i think its andrew something. i met all three of them at separate times.
by SolidWarSnake on Jun 12, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But that's a unique opportunity
From a cashier position, you can essentially ask one question. It has to come across as off-the-cuff (which is true, since it’s not like you knew they were goign to come to your lane). And we’re not saying you should stalk them through the store.
But how a guy reacts to a simple question can tell you a ton. If you asked Jennings “Hey, how are you liking Sacramento?”, we could maybe get some insight. You could maybe get a sense of if he’s genuinly wanting to be here, or if he just genuinly wants to be paid like the #4 pick.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
thats true
and if u or anyone else wants to see/talk to me ill the fat…uhh….husky fellow that shaves his head
by SolidWarSnake on Jun 12, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm out in Colorado
But maybe Section can swing by to pick up a Hungry Man dinner and you can practice a 1-question interview on him
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
someone needs to workout terrence williams and brandon jennings on the same day and keep the cameras rolling
by Ben Golliver on Jun 12, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good call Ben
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That's a great idea
Someone seriously needs to make that happen. Biggest talkers in the draft. King Bull and B. Jennings.
by oldenpolynice on Jun 12, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot of umm..ummm...."No Comments" from Westphal.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Reasonable no comments though
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Yeppers
More so on the USC thing than the Cuban issue.
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I agree, I would like to hear an honest assessment of working for Mark Cuban- because I think it would funny.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
PW Live...
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 12, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
hmmm...
not sure how to do this.
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 12, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon Jennings loses all credibility when he says
“They have Martin, They have Thomas”
I hope he was referring to trade bait.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
Me, I'm not a fan : )
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
I would rather watch beach soccer than K-9.
Which just happens to be the programming following the Kings presser.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
You are angry today
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My favorite part of the entire press conference
“They have Thomas.”
HAHA
The Dream Shake ...on Twitter.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
After Jordan pulled out I agree.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
That's what she said?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 12, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If anybody finds a replay
I missed part of the beginning, and would just love to hear the whole thing over again. However you would like to send it would be appreciated.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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He at least comes across as intelligently cocky
It doesn’t seem like a dumb guy blindly trashing someone above him in the draft stock race… he’s just being honest about how he feels.
Whether he is right or not, we’ll see in time, but I don’t think it was calculated or made for publicity (though if it was, can you blame him? There’s millions of dollars at stake for him depending on where he was drafted, and Sacramento would be a great place for him).
This is awesome.
Mortimer
Kozimor interviewing him one on one?
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
he had a awkward question for the maloofs
about rambis…was it reallly necessary to bring that today?!?
So, what is Koz's status these days?
He’s no longer employed by Maloof Sports but still has the radio gig? Is that why he’s there? Seems like there might be some bias/objectivity issues if he’s now a reporter…
He’s doing more TV stuff on the local comcast sportsnet stations as a correspondant as apposed to exclusive Maloof sports and entertainmanet stuff is how it looks to me
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Jun 12, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Flynn seems to have much more poise and professionalism. I cant wait to see the work out video.
I dont dislike Jennings, he is just a confident kid afterall, however I think he just ruined his chances at Petrie taking a chance on him.
Petrie is pretty tame and just hired a pretty laid back coach. I dont see him putting Jennings in the same locker room as Westphal, Martin, and Thompson.
All of whom are very politically correct, just how Petrie likes it.
I was uncool before it was cool
Ron Artest?
Bonzi Wells?
Chris Webber?
Jason Williams?
Mike Bibby’s posse?
Rashad McCants?
Keon Clark?
Hell, Doug Christie and Bobby Jackson had a reputation as being difficult before they came here. Jim Jackson as well.
I think we can fit in some non-traditional personalities if the talent comes along for the ride.
by otis29 on Jun 12, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Ladies & Gentleman
The functional genius: Otis!
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Hey Pookey
Is Rubio is gone by #4, what is the general consensus on who you Kingses are gonna take?
Morty
Good question Morty
Answer is there probably a majority who would take Evans, a lesser majority who would Holiday or Flynn, and a small majority (mostly me and 5 other people) who would take Jennings.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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I always liked Jennings' early 90's high top fade
That is an ironic self awareness that tells me something about the kid, but I ain’t sure what. I think it’s a good thing.
I also like that he went to Europe, when he could have gone and starred at an American university. If he had eligibility problems they would have been corrected, like for every top prospect ever (Brandon Roy had them too, and he’s a really smart young man, so I don’t think it necessarily should be a warning sign).
I’m usually big on following the draft, but I haven’t followed it as closely this year. I worry about Rubio because he looks 13, but his body is still growing and filling out so hopefully a man’s body comes out of it. Or, he’s Leonardo DiCaprio and looks 16 years old even when he’s 30+.
I trust Petrie and think he’s a really smart GM and a good, underrated talent evaluator, so I’m sure the Kings will get a very good player at #4. He picks talent every time.
Since I like the Kings I’m gonna be following what you guys do, so thank you for the quick primer to see where the fans are ;-)
Mortimer
All the NCAA has proven with how it conducts their investigations Morty
Is that they respond to witch hunts and particular trends that hurt their bottom line.
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Anytime Morty
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Good hoops conversation is good hoops conversation
regardless of whom it’s with.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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I loved his fade also.
If he would have showed up wearing it and made those statements I may have liked him more : )
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Haha
That’s funny.
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There is no consensus on anything
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Im not...
…in disagreement with you… but Im not Petrie either.
(Another thing to note is that J-Will was the only 1 in that group Petrie “drafted”. All the others he saw play against NBA players prior to putting them on the team…. Im just sayin.)
I was uncool before it was cool
Sure
I’m just saying that it’s not anathema for Petrie to add players of suspect character, if the payoff in talent is worth it. If anything, I’d hope Petrie worries less about personality issues with a young player like Jennings and more about talent. Because talent will always have value down the road (see J-Will being traded for Mike Bibby).
For the rest of us non-Oxford graduates.....
“Anathema "
1 a: one that is cursed by ecclesiastical authority b: someone or something intensely disliked or loathed —usually used as a predicate nominative <this notion was anathema to most of his countrymen — S. J. Gould>
2 a: a ban or curse solemnly pronounced by ecclesiastical authority and accompanied by excommunication b: the denunciation of something as accursed c: a vigorous denunciation
I was uncool before it was cool
I agree with everything Jennings said about Rubio, but it was in poor taste to voice his opinion in the way he did.
The guy probably gets asked about Ricky Rubio everywhere he goes, I understand his frustration.
And he makes a sound point: Rubio’s regarded pretty highly for someone who hasn’t shown much in games other than a few “home-run passes”. If you compare them, both have a less than stellar shot, both are great passers, Jennings is much more athletic. Does RR have a higher basketball IQ/awareness? It’s hard to say. There’s not much that tells me that RR is #2 worthy and Jennings is not.
Jennings hasn’t shown much in games either. He hasn’t been given much of an opportunity. But I see where he’s coming from. What has Rubio done that shows he is a better player? Why do most people automatically assume he is the better player.
If you watch the video, the Rubio talk began with topic that Rubio isn’t working out with any teams. Why not? It’s not like he has a great game-time record to do the talking for him. Compare Jennings and Rubio right next to each other in a workout and I think Jennings comes out on top, athleticism being the difference.
He just needs to be a little more tactful with his criticism.
by cbsf on Jun 12, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If you are a potential number 2 in the draft, you probably have more to lose than gain by working out with teams.
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 12, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What chouse said
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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Yes, I agree. I just don't understand what people are basing their opinion on that makes Rubio a #2 and Jennings lower than that.
If I were a GM, I’m not sure I’d be able to draft a player with Rubio’s “portfolio” without seeing him workout.
I think it's his buyout situation that is concerning most GM's at this point
Not whether he’s working out or not.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I agree that his buyout is a big concern for GM's, too.
But first you need to decide if a player is worth drafting talent wise at #2 or #4 or wherever. Then, you can decide if it’s possible to work around his buyout.
I’m not much of a talent evaluator, but I don’t think there’s enough to go on to complete that first step. With Jennings, there is even less to make that judgement, but at least he’s willing to try to prove himself in workouts against other top players.
Well said
But we can’t forget the ability of Rubio to put butts in the seats. That might (and should IMO) be a tiebreaker if all other things are somewhat equal.
Rubio can do that. But that shouldn’t be the reason to draft someone. That only gets people’s attention in the short term. If the Maloofs want to sell tickets, they need to get the player that will best help them win in the long run.
That argument was used as a reason for the Blazers to draft Adam Morrison too, though
I think it’s a very short term bump in ticket sales that goes back to even worse than before if it becomes clear the wrong player was chosen.
Not that Rubio is Ammo, of course, but tickets will be sold long term if the team drafts the right dude for the basketball court. Rubio could easily be both, so it’s a moot nitpick I have I guess!
Morty
I agree with both you and cbsf
That’s why I added the caveat about all other things being equal. I wouldn’t want that to be the deciding factor if Petrie sees Jennings/Evans/Harden as clearly better players.
I agree as well
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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The Oakland A's our baseball cousin to the north,
have found time and time again, winning gets people to come to the games. Even if its with a group of no names winning will always be the key to ticket sales.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Especially in a town like Sacramento/Portland
We both just want a team we like and a team that plays hard and we can see improvements in.
I would think Sacramento is dying to love the Kings again and just needs a gentle prodding in the right direction, either with a high potential fun rookie, K-Mart being healthy, or just the general improvement from the young core you’re going to see this year.
“Worst record in the league” will always suffer for ticket sales, but as long as people see the team is changing and improving and it was only a temporary hiccup (like I think it is), the fans will return.
You guys LOVE your Kings, after all!
Morty
The difference between Blazermania
And Kings mania, is slight if moot.
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if not moot^
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Normally I would agree
You just have to wonder if this team has enough time to achieve respectability on the court to increase ticket sales. If Rubio excites the fanbase (even artificially), maybe the idea of moving is put off.
In a perfect world, you would have both. Rubio would be a world class player, and he’d excite the fan base. Or a guy like Jennings or Evans turns into a superstar quickly, and your team improves dramatically.
This offseason has been incredibly interesting. There are so many factors involved here, I can’t imagine this is going to be an easy decision for Petrie & Co.
This is all arena related
You’ll hear about it the same time we will. The difference is we will have more details.
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Pretty serious
This team has to have a new arena. We’ve got our hopes pinned on a NBA sponsored, non-publicly financed plan to build said arena at Cal Expo. Recently, there have been some questions about whether that land will even be available to build on – or if Governor HGH is going to sell it to help pay off the budget deficit. There are obviously lots of little details I’m leaving out, but I believe that is the gist of it.
Outside of that, I don’t think there is a plan out there that is even remotely viable – there is virtually no chance of an arena being built that includes even a small amount of public funding.
The clock is ticking, but right now things are NOT looking good.
It never looks good until it happens
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
To the North?
I haven’t been home in a while, Did they move Sactown down near Santa Cruz? Or did they move Oakland up near Redding?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You stinky Korean
Stop taking things literally. :)
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Oh, my bad
He didn’t mean that Oakland was literally to the North of Sac, he meant is figuratively. As in Oakland is above Sac, better than Sac, Over Sac.
That’s worse. Fuck you moproblemz! Sactown is “North” of Oakland! ;p
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
You ain’t been posting enough around here lately. Thanks for coming back mayne.
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Or simply posting today LOL
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Just busy early last week.
and still catching up on all the posts. It’s a serious problem if you don’t check the site for 3-4 days. You end up with 1000s of comments to read.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
Sometimes I just skip over the half ass fanposts to do that. I haven’t spent that much time away from StR in awhile though. You really lose touch when you do though. I know that much. And the last time I went away from StR for that long was when I moved to Seattle.
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All I have to say is...
the Ron Artest potential is high with Jennings. I’ve been following him on Twitter for two months. Not that Twitter (or even what he says) is the end all, be all. But you can tell he likes to run his mouth.
Is the talent there? Yeah, it seems like it. But so is the big mouth and the arrogance.
Shaq likes to run his mouth too
Does that keep people from disliking him?
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He can now
You’re saying that Jennings can’t?
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Who can prove it now?
Jennings timing sucked. And, I think he doesn’t care. Nor should we. The incident is minor, at best.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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I liked his posts where he complained about Hasheem not being able to catch his pitch to open a Dogers game
Don’t know if that tells more about Jennings or Hasheem’s “hands of stone” :)
I liked it
I think Jennings’ comments were in the competitive spirit and I like that. I think we need a player that has confidence in his ability, he wouldn’t have said those things if he really didn’t think he was better than Rubio. And like pookey said, these two guys know each other, they even did a photoshoot together for SLAM magazine, Rubio might even expect something like this from Jennings. Hopefully when it gets back to Rubio, it’ll make him want to disprove Jennings and I’d love to see the matchup.
But overall it seems like straight competitive talk, it wasn’t unprofessional, athletes run their mouths about each other all the time, they are some of the most competitive people in the world.
Jennings is backing up his comments on Twitter:
“@BJennings3 Rubio is all hype?? Maybe, the Olympics got him exposed but you know his talent is limitless.. He has potential, just like you!”
“@Najville yes I agree. I just think the Kid should workout for some team. That’s just not fair too me. Like he just shows up and goes #2.
@Najville Blake griffin workout for Clippers. Atleast he worked out."
Who was this kid's english teacher?
He doesn’t know the difference between “to” and “too”.
On twitter
I don’t think ANYONE does. I got Harvard friends who do that crap.
His tweets are on the high end of the articulation and readability scale for athlete tweets.
Mo—
Funny you should say that
I get e-mails all the time from higher ups in our company – college educated guys making mid-six figure incomes. Jennings’ Twitters look like Shakespeare in comparison to many of those.
I seriously think it's a trend started by instant messenger/text messaging/etc.
Pretty soon everyone’s going to be speaking in morse code.
I don't do dit's or dah's
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LOL Otis
Writing is a practiced skill; not necessarily an inheritated one. (Remind people here of how awful I was at writing when I first came to StR.)
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You wrote in 27 pages what you could have got across in 3-
but you also had some music lyrics thrown in to break it all up ; )
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Are you Otis?
No. Shutup. :) (I am joking people. JJ is right in a sense, but at the same time, condensing also sometimes means losing something too.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I agree, I'm a history guy who is use to lots of words..
and the comparative literature minor in me loved those giant posts. There was always a sentence or two that the untrained eye misses.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
LOL Yeah
I like history too. It’s partly why I’m so wordy.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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One of my favorite books is
“Lies my history teacher told me.” “Lies across America” is awesome too.
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I have it but never really had the time to read it.
Maybe this summer if the boys give me a break to read at all.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
You'll enjoy it
Pop Quiz: Which state was the first to legalize slavery?
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I'm not worthy :)
Hope your boys leave ya alone.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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That was one of the first things that kept me coming back to StR
I’d have to print out your posts and read them with a straightedge because there were no paragraphs. But on the other hand, I did read them.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I was so happy when
Pookey discovered the paragraph!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
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That is so embarrasing
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's all in the archives
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
NO I'm embarrased it's there
It’s not going anywhere unless I delete any of it.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Which I did delete my last fanpost I did write before starting EC Inc
Oh well. LOL
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
and you have been particularly prolific
since starting up EC and for you that’s saying something
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Huh?
That confuses me. Please restate.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
what I meant was that you posted a lot when you were posting here
since you set up EC your out put has increased in my opinion and actually more on point with less tangents and that’s not criticism. That’s what I meant, you write a lot = prolific , so I don’t know if having your own site has motivated you or not but from what I have gathered you are going to school, working and posting here, EC and I run across you at various other basketball sites as well. That’s all I meant, hope that makes sense.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I'm not working
I got fired last month. That’s why my blog output increased. It’s okay. I’d rather go to school full time and build EC Inc. I’m better at both of those than letting some denture popping crackhead jerkoff ruin my life at a pointless deadend job anyway.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Actually he clicks his dentures
But the real is true just the same.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
but the rest^
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
sounds like one day you will be able to incorporate some of the
stuff you saw driving a cab at night in Seattle into your basketball stuff and it won’t be a tangent, I have no doubt you will be able to tie it all together. As long as you can pay the bills, more power to you.
One thing I will say about Brandon Jennings is that he has brought more posters to StR since the last game thread.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I drove a cab in Sac not Seattle
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I worked in Dispatch here
But, your point is true nonetheless I suppose.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well
Draft Lottery night brought out a lot of comments too.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Here's a good one from
less than a year ago. At least there are some paragraphs, though it becomes a pretty big wall of words towards the end.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still pissed off about that
I’ll do a re-write of that. Thanks for the reminder.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm just giving you shit
Anyone that questions your contributions to this site should just spend some time looking at the 267 posts in your SRT Blog! Amazing stuff.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yowzah.
You can track everything I’ve written? I knew writing some of that was a bad idea…..
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
we are all what we are from what we were
live. learn. keep going.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 13, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Words of wisdom
For the wise.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
So you're saying on Twitter everyone spells to - too?
Did you read BJ’s tweet? He didn’t write to when it should have been too(to save space/effort), he wrote too when it should have been to.
The quote:
That’s just not fair too me.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank You Mr English teacher
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
My point was that Mortimer's post
wasn’t relevant. I could give a shit if he wrote to or too. People fucking up your and you’re is what drives me crazy.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your right!
It’s not just messing with you’re mind – it’s messing with mine, too!
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by section214 on Jun 12, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ u 2
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Correction
Your sentence should read “Its not just messing with you’re mind — its messing with mine, too!”
Get your apostrophe’s right. Sheesh.
Their is a perfect example write They're
Dumbasses and there bad righting. FU S214!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I love me some Kfan
You always make me smile, whether I’m on my meds or not. Such is life as charter brethren of the Secret Society of Douche Nuggets.
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by section214 on Jun 12, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for the very sig worthy last line
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
this is Kfan 
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
KimChi! - (what they say instead of Cheese!)
Yes, I’m a cute Korean girl. Bastard.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL yep
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
LOL
That’s the first google image return for “koreans”.
Nice Pookey.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
I wish I could have posted the 2nd picture
It would have made the first picture work so much better. Oh well.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This is Kfan on Drugs:
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Crap
This Is Kfan on Drugs:
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Argh I give up
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's funny
there was an add on that site for a Korean singles site.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL really?
I was just looking for stupid pictures. I figured she would do.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It may be tailored to your IP
but there was an add for KoreanCupid.com. It seems to change, because it’s not there now. Made me laugh, though.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
How long has it been since you were last in the States?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
4 years
Damn, time flies.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yowzah mayne
Do you miss it? Or is that a stupid question?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Actually I really like it over here
I do miss Mexican food though, and the family of course.
I can save 10-15 K a year working a fun/no-stress less than 30 hour a week job over here. Tough to find that kind of work back home.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't blame you
My old drivers superintendent, when I drove for Yellow Cab of Sac, had ephesema, and died last year, but anyway, before he died, he wanted to move to Okinawa, and his wife, whose Japanese, wouldn’t let him for some reason.
Oh well. Too bad too. He was a career Marine WHO LOVED Japan. Americans do real well over there if they can immerse themselves in the culture. (I knew a lot of people who lived in Japan from when I was in the Navy.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I imagine the biggest problem if you were married
But I’m guessing that’s not an issue.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Japan's nice too
I’m not married, and that’s probably the worst thing about living over here. I like Korean women fine, but I’m a little too old for 99% of the single ones. They don’t really divorce over here yet(though that is starting to change), and they all pretty much get married by the time they’re 30 or so.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I can imagine why dating a 20 or even 30 year old would get irritating.
I’m 29, and dating a 20 year old kid is not appealing.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I don't have a problem with the 30 year olds,
but at 44, they seem to have a problem with me. :(
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
That’s just ageism.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Just to be clear
I don’t have a problem with the 35-45 year olds either, but they all seem to be married.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Right situation, wrong place for women. Meh.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Technically, you COULDN'T give one
I mean, if we’re going to get all technical with the English language…
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Hell no
We wouldn’t want to get all technical or anything.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Hah, you're right
although, I don’t value my shit very highly. So, it wouldn’t mean much for me to give it.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell are you talking about
Look, this happened last time I came around— you got all pissy for no God damn reason.
Someone complained that Jennings must not be smart because he did the wrong “to” on Twitter. I say, almost everyone who posts on Twitter does that, because it is a casual, texty type environment.
I do not understand how you got ANYTHING else from what I wrote.
Mortimer
I think he was being a smartass
But, that’s knowing him.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And Morty
He’s an English teacher too, so that’s part of the deal. I understand why you feel attacked; he’s done it before. I wish he wouldn’t, but well, I can’t make him not do it either.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nothing to do with being an English teacher
and nothing to do with “to” or “too” and nothing to do with Mortimer. I saw a comment that didn’t seem to fit with the argument and pointed it out. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 13, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you were saying
that in “a casual, texty environment” everyone just types “to” because it is easier.
So I was pointing out that he didn’t use “to” as a shorter, easier way to type too or two. He did the opposite, which to me says that he wasn’t being casual and texty.
Now if you meant that everyone uses too all the time, or everyone swaps to and too all the time on twitter, then I misunderstood you.
As for feeling attacked. What ever. There was nothing “pissy” about my response to what you wrote. It appeared to me that you responded without reading what he wrote, and I pointed it out.
Look up earlier in the tread. I did a similar thing when someone said Oakland was to the north. I disagreed, I pointed it out.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 13, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you can't help but come across as pissy
But that’s fine, it’s just your style and why this probably seems to happen with you (someone going “what’s your deal?”). I didn’t even mention a to vs too thing, just that everyone always mixes it up or gets it wrong on Twitter (in regards to a comment jokingly besmirching his education/intelligence). My comment was the one saying that even my fancy book learnin’ Harvard friends get that wrong, in case you combined my comment with another.
I’ve read ya before, I’ve seen ya here; this is what you do. You nitpick silly stuff. That’s your schtick, and it’s lame, but that’s cool. It’s what ya do.
It’s not that you ‘point something out’, which is always fine. It’s how ya do it. And you know you do it. I hardly come here and it’s something you do every time I’ve been here (not just to me, of course).
I barely hardly don’t even know ya and wouldn’t presume to ask you to change, just explaining where I am coming from. You seem to be on auto-snippy when you reply to mundane matters.
Mortimer
Wow, I don't really know how to respond to this.
I’m not going to get in a fight with you, and I’ll probably just never reply to any of your posts again. I almost didn’t reply to this one.
I guess I’m just delusional, because in my mind, you are the one being pissy. You’re the one bringing in God damns and calling names.
I just didn’t agree with your point.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if God damn was bad, I apologize
I know that bugs some people and I shouldn’t say it.
And since you’re a stickler, I didn’t call ya a name, I said you were ACTING pissy/snippy.
And the thing is, you likely do agree with my points (Jennings picked the wrong game to point to as a negative for Rubio, and that people mix up easy stuff in written English, especially in online media, but it isn’t necessarily indicative of that person’s actual intelligence).
I remember you having a minor hissy fit over some of us talking about a Blazers vs Kings game in a Blazers vs Kings thread here on Sactown Royalty because we weren’t Kings fans from a while back, and I’ve noticed that sort of weirdly possessive behavior about the site to other non-Kings-first fans from you. I really don’t want to fight, it’s just your general odd attitude is just… offputting.
It’s not a big deal, I’m just pointing it out. I don’t think I said anything too harsh, and there is no debate to win or anything like that— which makes it all the sillier, with me being party to the silliness. I just wanted to explain myself more.
I wish the Kings much luck and I hope Rubio falls to ya.
Mortimer
Jennings is what we need...
Our team lacks fire and that is exactly what I saw from Jennings in his interview. A lot of people act like basketball players don’t talk trash on and off the floor but it happens all the time. Ever sat close to floor and couldn’t believe what you were hearing??? That fact that Jennings stated his honest opinion confirms my belief he could run our team and be a true leader. BJ reminds me of all the good qualities I loved and miss in Artest. I am also willing to guarntee this guy would not back down to Rubio if they we’re being interviewed right next to each other.
I like fire but not stupidity.
I understand your point but he should learn “church mouth” (that’s what she said!) or pay for a really good talking head. There is a big difference between game time and interview leading to the draft time.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Agreed!
Like many others have posted before – how mature were any of us at the age of 19?
Jennings spoke his mind and I don’t think he wasn’t too disrespectful to Rubio at all. He’s only one of the few lottery prospects who played against Rubio so he has the right to criticize him.
I’ve seen both play (olympics, McDonalds All American Game, NBA euro-basket etc) and I was more impressed with Jennings in the open floor. I don’t see how anybody can hope for Rubio based on youtube highlight videos. It just doesn’t make any sense. I didn’t see any sort of reliable jumper from Rubio in the Olympics. I won’t even mention the disparity of play between the NBA and the Euro leagues. But if Rubio comes to Sac – I really do hope I’m wrong.
As Doors Open said, the Kings lack fire. I recall C-Webb, B-Jax and Vlade having plenty of it during the hey day.
by WaymanChilcutt on Jun 12, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Workout Video >> Post Interview Comments
Talk is cheap
Now if Rubio is gone
I definitely do not want Jennings. Rubio played great in the Olympics vs Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Rubio is far more than hype he is great. Jennings is not in the same league and this petty garbage means I do not want him anywhere near the Kings.
Rubio's wrist was still not right
Let’s not make too much of that game one way or the other.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He hurt it midway through the game
So, ok, that explains half of it.
Did you ever go back and watch that game? You promised!
Yeah I watched the Olympics gold medal game--great game fun to watch was rooting for Spain--I'm a hater
Anyway, I was talking about the Jennings Rubio faceoff in December.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And I'm going to watch it this weekend sometime
But, it won’t tell me much.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
you're talking about the Joventut-Roma game right?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I've already watched that game
I’m not watching it again. Still love that Rudy dunk on Dwight though. Best play of the game.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
50000 Blazer fans simultaneously jumped off of their couches and screamed when that happened.
proud hinrichsheeple
LOL Cablin
That’s very true. It was a rude awakening for the US fans who believe that their best could beat any team under any circumstance.
The International game does not favor US players who do not play that particular type of style.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
a few of the US players thrived in the international game… Wade, Bosh, etc. It was just a hard transition for most of the team.
Watching Spain play was incredible. Teamwork, chemistry, behind the back passes, alley-oops, fastbreaks… I have to admit, I was rooting for them.
proud hinrichsheeple
I was too
Even afterwards when I knew who won. LOL
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah it was 300's fanshot I was linking to
Thanks 300!
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And share it you do
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah
Here is the link. Fair warning that you will need a VEOH player to play the whole thing. (It was free when I did it.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Going by that game you would have to draft Ibrahim Jabeer
Who had 11 points, 7 rebounds (Jennings none, which fits his profile) and 4 assists.
That's something Rubio doesn't get credit for
He’s an excellent rebounder too.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I agree with JJ on this
and actually feel bad cause he’s been fighting by himself for a bit. As someone who has played competitive sports in the past (nothing too serious of course) saying you are better than someone else is pretty disrespectful. Growing up, I always thought that saying you were good was ok, but comparing yourself to others and saying you are better is not the way to get respect. He could very well be better than Rubio, but he will have years and years to prove that. Talking now, only makes him look like a punk.
I guess I can understand Jennings frustration and I know it’s immaturity talking, but still. Would Rubio say the same thing about Jennings?? I truly don’t know, but from what I’ve read about him, I doubt he would. It’s a respect time of thing, and though it shouldn’t be that big of a deal, it still IS to some people (count me as one of them).
I’m still hoping for Ricky Rubio, and if not, my next guy is Evans. Jennings was and still is my third guy, but I can honestly say that I will not be as happy to get him as I was before I listened to his comments. Of course, it won’t matter what I think so Petrie will do his thing.
Jennings tweets and twitters
With my comment bout Rubio, im just tryin hype the draft up a lil, make the summer league something everybody wanna see.
I think its gon be a good for both of us this summer too see were we both at. I mean I can’t wait. Too play everyone
And earlier:
Only thing is I wish we had the chance like some of the euro players have. They go pro at 16. We can’t do that. They have he upper hand.
Image if we could go pro at 16, we would be really good by the time were 19.
Thanks Norskie for posting this
This harks back to what I was saying earlier: He just wanted to mouth off for a bit. He wanted to get his name out there as a bad boy for some reason. He wanted ink. Why? Good question.
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Where’s the vid from today? Not interviews and overblown trash talk, but actual hoops and competition? Maybe Kings brass wants to hold onto proprietary work-out footage if the man that impressed most (Jennings, Flynn) shows skills they don’t want other teams seeing? Hmmmm, just sayin’. Maybe not, maybe the camera guy just forgot to remove the lens cap.
There is video footage of this?
No friggin way!
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I am guessing there is a very good reason for that
I would speculate that the agents of some of the guys involved in the workout didn’t want public footage of it released. They are already taking a bit of a risk by letting their guys workout competitively against other very good players, if one of them has a bad workout they probably don’t want to let that idea spread to other teams.
I would bet money it was Holiday's
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I just love
how Flynn looks at Jennings in stark amazement.
I don’t know if Jennings is the talent for the Kings, but he certainly could be the lightning rod that they have been missing since C-Webb left.
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Yeah
Flynn had the look of “You’re a goofy douche B-Money”. LOL
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If not for Jonny Flynn
I wouldn’t have laughed nearly as much as I did. I’ll be honest, if that’s what gets the Kings attention with Flynn, I can live with it. His reaction is priceless.
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Agreed
Flynn’s reaction was equal parts, “This is hilarious” and “It is fun watching someone implode their draft stock.”
This didn't really hurt Jennings draft stock
Unless it was a team that didn’t really want him anyway. Just my opinion on that.
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Maybe. I don't think it helped though.
And that’s coming from someone who doesn’t think it was a big deal.
Here's my opinion
Did you read the Chad Ford piece? If you haven’t, here you go.
Anybody whose dealt with him on a limited basis is more likely to be bothered by this. Anybody who knows less about him will be really bothered by it period. It is bothersome in a way, but in another way, I respect him for speaking his mind. That’s one thing about athletes who are too afraid to speak the truth because the paycheck in part depends on them staying away from what the truth is.
But as far as his draft stock? I don’t think every team is in love with him, and think that his talent is overrated. One common myth that I think is funny is the idea that scouts couldn’t scout him in HS. Which is crap. Especially when it’s Jonathan Givony saying that, and then he posts something by a scout who see’s Jennings pull out to run a play in Italy, and saying he would never done that at Dominguez or Oak Hill.
The thing is here, that Jennings just added more fire to the most volatile draft stock of any player. He is not a safe pick. He is very risky in part because of his personality and in part because it’s not exactly perfect to judge how you’ll be able to see how his game works out between his AAU & Italian days. It’s just so hard to guess, and how your gut, and I suppose how you handle him will be important. For instance, all the tweeting he does will not happen during a game. If he’s found doing it, he will likely be suspended.
Here’s the deal though. Do I think the Kings will take him? I don’t know. It depends. On a lot of things. If Rubio is off the board then I say the chance goes up. If Rubio is on the board at 4, than the chances goes down obviously.
But, Jennings has done something that Rubio hasn’t: Worked out for them. However, Rubio has played in 5 on 5 action in front of Petrie which Jennings hasn’t done. So, in some ways, this whole deal is a wash at this point.
I’m by no means the most knowledgable person out there, but I do believe that Brandon Jennings has a great chance to be the best players. All his flaws are fixable, he has things you can’t teach with his athleticism and quickness, he has mental toughness and willingness to work on his game, and he’s also outspoken. Isn’t Spencer Hawes?
I chalk this up to being a guy who thinks he should, and can, be the best player in the game. Brashness will always come with that package whether it’s appreciated or not.
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Interesting take
I still don’t think reminding everyone that you’re a loose cannon helps. But I agree that no one is going to be drafting Jennings for his maturity anyway.
That's just it nbrans
He isn’t immature. He’s just cocky and brash. What were you like at 19?
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I was really stoned
But that’s another story.
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by My Losing Season on Jun 12, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I was really stupid
And in general, just a dumb asshole. But, I was 19. My problem is I’m still a dumb asshole. Sigh.
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I don't think he imploded his draft stock
He will still go anywhere between 4 (you) and 14 (Suns). In between those spots 4-5 teams will draft a point guard. With easily 10 going before #20. The Warriors reportedly liked Flynn and Jennings a lot, and will likely pick whoever is left.
And as Jennings has stated himself, the second contract in the NBA is where the real money is at.
He was laughing at Jennings
He could just tell that he was putting everybody on some. Some of what he meant was very true, but again, I don’t think his statement was directly at Rubio exactly. It was more directed at the total process and how the media treats every player differently.
That’s all my personal opinion.
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The agents have screwed up the process pretty well
Chicago was a massive failure according to some scouts and GMs, one of which vented very publicly about his displeasure with the process (Morey of the Rockets, sending sarcastic tweets from the Reebok Eurocamp how innovative it was to have players actually play 5 on 5 against each other). Now agents don’t let their clients work out for some teams (e.g. the Blazers have that problem). Or not against some players. Or not at all. It’s a mess, and I expect the teams will demand some rule changes/clarifications in the future.
Yeah they keep complaining about the way this stuff is done
Pretty soon David Stern’s head will explode.
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A point made during the Westphal press conference...
The Coach and the Mayor talked about how they rebuilt the Suns team with character guys after the big drug scandal. So I have a hard time imagining Petrie (or Westphal) being that keen on Jennings because the guy seems like a bit of a loose cannon. Not that that is necessarily a deal-breaker, but I would be surprised if they picked the guy.
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by My Losing Season on Jun 12, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point,
except that (a) the Kings aren’t trying to rebuild after a scandal and (b) my perception is that Westphal will have no more input into the drafting of the player(s) than any of the previous coaches, which is to say that he will have very little input. This is Petrie’s call. The same Petrie that drafted Jason Williams the last time the team sucked. I’m not saying that’s why he will draft Jennings. I’m just saying today’s press conference will have nothing to do with Petrie not drafting Jennings.
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by section214 on Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What 214 said
I think Westphal’s impression will matter in how Petrie forms part of his opinion though. He didn’t bring Westphal just to coach these guys. He wanted a savvy, tough, smart basketball opinion maker as well. Westphal gives the KIngs that. This might go down as the best move the Kings franchise has made of all time given the circumstances.
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MLS
I don’t think Westphal talked about character of the new guys. He didn’t say Larry Nance had drug problems either. I think he was, more or less, talking about Walter Davis who very much did.
But, at the same time, I do think his point about that trade was that Nance, in 1988 when that trade was made, happened to be 28 years old. I think the analogy was about how trading Artest may be the thing that reboots this franchise in terms of talent, and not just Donte, but this 23rd overall pick.
Again, I don’t think the drug scandal was really what he was referring to with that trade. Maybe 214 can fill in the Nance issue, but I’ve never heard of him being addicted to Coke like other players.
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My recollection
is that Nance had nothing to do with the drug scandal. He was simply dealt because the Suns wanted to get their hands on Kevin Johnson. Nance went on to be a solid contributor for the Cavs and ended his career with a good reputation. If memory serves, he went on to drive NHRA funny cars.
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Right
Nance also had a lot of hops which people don’t always remember because of his achilles injuries he had.
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When? 1877?
I kid, I kid. When did the NBA start it’s slam dunk contest?
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Let's not go there tonight
Ah fuck it, we’ve went just about everywhere else. DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER ZILLER! hEH!
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I can't figure out how Nance pulled of those dunks
in those teeny tiny shorts!
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I'm wonder how anybody in that era managed to have kids
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I wasn't implicating Nance
But rebuilding the Suns team with youth and character was a message I took from today’s press conference. I don’t have the exact quote. Anyway, my sense of Petrie is that he will not be impressed with Jennings’ demeanor today.
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by My Losing Season on Jun 12, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not impressed with Jennings demeanor today
It doesn’t mean that I think he’s doomed to dropping solely because of it though.
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This falls under the "slow news day" category
The draft is almost here, and everyone has already talked about everything there is to talk about ad nauseum, so the most interesting thing left to talk about is one basketball player saying he thinks he’s better than another basketball player. I can’t imagine that would be a story during any other time of the year. I can’t wait for the draft, I’m sick of all this crap.
A Maloof's wet dream
GP will make the selection based on the best talent available, but if the brothers see that the overall publicity for this simple workout session has mushroomed to national levels and that the local feedback (nevermind positive or negative – it’s people talking about the Kings!) has been almost 5 times greater than any of the other workouts, well, we know who they will like.
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My thoughts on article and comments
The statements made me laugh. They were also proved untrue and thanks to a link above we’re all able to look at that (here it is again in so you don’t have to dig http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamenumber=7&gamecode=80&phasetypecode=rs)
The fact Rubio had an injury is of note too.
In regards to brash, there’s the big dog’s slow rumbling growl telling people to get the heck away or you’ll be sorry, and there’s the little dog barking because if the noise doesn’t scare you off, you’ll notice how small he is and realize you can fit his head in your mouth and bite it off. If he has to exaggerate his assists and belittle his opponent, I suspect he’s a little dog. I don’t know for sure.
The point that he’s doing this to increase value is probably valid. Bad press is still press and people will still know who you are. He’s marketing himself and he’s now out there because… that’s funny stuff he said (even if it’s not true, news is still mostly about headlines and soundbites, not facts).
In regards to character. As a Blazer fan I still lean towards character. i think a team can probably take one problem guy and use him if their foundation is secure. For rebuilding a team, I wouldn’t touch a problem child with a ten foot pole. The bulls took on Rodman, but does anyone think that he could disrupt that team or that Jordan would let that happen? However, you put him on other teams that don’t have a sound base and you have issues that effect the team.
I see the kings as a rebuilding team. As such, I’d find good solid people to build this team around and make sure they have their heads on tight. Eventually, when a run is starting to take place and the foundation is solid, then I look at an upgrade and maybe I take a chance on a head case if he’s the last piece to carry me over the hump.
In regards to the guy being dumb because he don’t speak no good english or he rites bads…
People are a product of their environment. That however has no reflection on his intellect and neither does his inability to spell correctly on twitter and neither does his failing to pass the SAT. Some people just don’t have brains that fit within the current main stream education system. You take them out of that box or THEY take themselves out of that box and they excel amazingly. Poor grammar or failing the SAT may be symptoms of an issue, but they are not the be all end all of “see, this guy is an idiot.”
I’ve typed your and you’re and reversed the two because my fingers typed what they wanted. It doesn’t mean that I’m lacking in teh mental capacity area. It may mean i’m too lazy to go back and edit before posting, but not that I’m an idiot.
If I’m rebuilding, I think I’d pass on this kid. I’d find other talent. I’d look for that quiet confidence where they’ll let their actions speak for themselves instead of brash words. I’d look for a leader. I’d look for a hard worker. I’d look for a strong desire to compete and to win. I’d look for the guy that never quits. And… i’d look for talent and potential.
Talent and potential alone doesn’t get you to the promised land. You need someone who can rise up and utilize every inch of talent they have and meet and exceed their potential, and who doesn’t quit because the thought of losing is painful, but when they do lose, they figure out how to not let it happen again.
Those are my thoughts. Loud stands out, but i prefer quiet action. This kid is loud, and the stats and facts don’t back up his bark. I care about that more than the SAT.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
oh
and Morty made a great point about B-Roy and his learning disability.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
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