A New Crisis: Paul Westphal's Salary
by Ziller on Jun 15, 2009 6:10 AM PDT
in Commentary
28 comments
You wanna know the real reason the [Redacted] won the championship? Because Phil Jackson makes $25 billion per year.
Because you see, in the NBA, players don't listen to coaches who don't make $25 billion per year. Which bodes poorly for Kings coach Paul Westphal, according to Sacramento Bee sports editor Bill Bradley.
Westphal's salary next season is documented at $1.5 million, the low end of the league. Will Kevin Martin, who will make about six times more, listen to his new coach? Will Kenny Thomas pay attention while making $8.77 million? Of players under contract, only Donté Greene ($870,000) will make less than Westphal.
This is another hurdle Westphal will face in his first NBA coaching job since 2000. By lowballing a coach, the Maloofs have set up this scenario. Let's hope Westphal's experience can speak louder than his pay stub.
Will Kevin Martin, who will make about six times more, listen to his new coach? Kevin Martin, noted coach-killer, might not listen to Paul Westphal ... because Paul Westphal drives an Audi instead of a Jaguar. You heard it here first.
(I end this as I end all snarky comments on The Bee, which is to say I like The Bee and Mr. Bradley very much, and I know these "Leading Off" pieces are really, really not tailored to the hardcore NBA/Kings fan, but to the Keds-wearing state worker masses.* It's just funny to me that this argument can even be broached.)
* Copyright rbiegler 2007.
0 recs |
28 comments
|
Email
Print
Comments
Rec'd for Epic Snark.
But in all honesty, this argument is a bunch of bull. Especially on a team that doesn’t have any malcontents. Whatever.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 15, 2009 6:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Will he listen when the Kings tell him to load the luggage in the plane?
Bradley’s little commentary pieces suck. Martin is a very coachable player and Westphal was a hell of a player and a very good coach in the past so I don’t think he will have much of an issue. Even a 5 million dollar a year coach would make less than…wait for it…Beno Udrih (Garcia, Martin, Thomas, Nocioni).
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
by jjham15 on Jun 15, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahah!!!!
if k9 doesnt listen our team will never succeed
Oakland Raider fan till I DIE!!!
by Robby1987 on Jun 15, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought all K9s have hearing well beyond the human ear!
Woof!
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 16, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Years ago,
I went into Lumberjack in search of 75w bulbs, but they were out of stock. In fact, the shelves were looking rather bare. Mind you, this was a full four years before Lumberjack went out of business, but I walked out of the store that day saying “Lumberjack is done.”
The Amick aisle is still well stocked, but the rest of the shelves at the Bee are beginning to look mighty bare. I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 15, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Like that poor
article on the number “4” a few weeks ago that was written by some kindergarderner.
by Bambooozled on Jun 15, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same for me when we lived in Orangevale same thing and it was way before they closed
I used to go to the Bee and then come here. Now I come here and sometimes follow a link back to the Bee.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
by Bluejohn on Jun 15, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Sh&*
Say isn’t so. Man I have been gone from Sactown too long. The next thing you’re going to tell me is Farrells is closed.
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 16, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
A new crisis indeed.
Oakland Raider fan till I DIE!!!
by Robby1987 on Jun 15, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this is neither the time nor the place
but appropriateness has never been my strong suit. Can someone explain to me why guaranteed contracts are necessary in the NBA?
by furious.d on Jun 15, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A few reasons
1. Injuries.
2. If you abolished guaranteed contracts, you’d need to make serious concessions to the players. Like $50 million, or eternal opt-out clauses. It would strength the Lakers and Knicks and Bulls and murder teams like the Kings.
3. You’d have hold-outs galore, which rarely happen in the NBA.
by Ziller on Jun 15, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+10000000
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 15, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would add to that
You might as well not have a team in Sacramento.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 15, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think one of the things the NBA has done very well is how they have their contracts set up in general
from the guaranteed money to the rookie scale. Some guys still get more than they are worth but they never get too much more. We don’t see unproven rookies hold out for $100 million dollar contracts like in the NFL. The NBA’s contract system works really well.
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jun 15, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+100000000
Also, they can’t do what players do in MLB if they don’t get paid overslot.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 15, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple more questions
And I ask not to try to make a point, but out of genuine curiousity.
1. Why does it work in the NFL, where injuries are far more common? (I know that the Players’ Union doesn’t like it, but it does seem to work.)
2. If you agree that it works in the NFL, why doesn’t it disproportionately hurt small-market teams? (parity is very strong in the NFL, even if some franchises are much richer.)
3. How did it work before 1999? (Whenever I look up pre-’99 teams on basketball-reference the salaries seem so much more reasonable – much smaller than could be chalked up to inflation in the last decade.)
I guess I just don’t understand why these guys need to be paid so much, but we have to argue about whether 650K is enough to get 5 quality assistants. (For the record, I agree that the article is totally asinine.)
by furious.d on Jun 15, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. Weak union, far larger rosters, fewer superstars, smaller need for superstars due to very nature of the game (which is almost never 1-on-1)/size of team in play any given down (11 per team vs. 5).
2. Revenue sharing, which is much much much much stronger in the NFL than the NBA. NFL shares 70% of revenue, NBA like 20%.
3. Guaranteed contracts, looser cap, looser contract lengths. In the boom 00s, there was continued explosion in salary because most teams did really well financially. See: Webber, Bibby.
by Ziller on Jun 15, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With regards to #3
That’s also why the Kings have regressed so quickly because players like that did not get much better, if at all, after they signed those contracts (more so Bibby for obvious reasons—much younger & all that).
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 15, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well call me a product of my times
but it seems like a faulty model to me. The current economic crisis only shines a spotlight on what’s been true for many years: The vast majority of NBA veterans are wildly overpaid. It seems to me that a max deal should be half of what it has become.
by furious.d on Jun 15, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You actually could include far more unguaranteed years and bonuses even under the current CBA. Most teams just don't fearing competition.
I would expect with the next CBA in 2011 the average salaries in the NBA will come down some, a lot of exceptions to go over the cap will be removed, more years will actually be unguaranteed, while absolute top stars will earn more.
by Norsktroll on Jun 15, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
^ This is what I'd like to see - though obviously not if it costs small markets the ability to compete
It seems like the owners bought high on the last CBA, presumably because the economy in general was so good and the NBA itself had such an amazing decade in the ‘90s. It sucks to know that so many of this franchise’s problems can be traced back to overpaying a few guys that we absolutely had to overpay to have any chance of building upon our success. I want to invest my time, money, and emotional energy into basketball, not some giant game of SimCity.
by furious.d on Jun 15, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
How will Pete Carril get the attention of the players as a special assistant who undoubtedly makes >0.1% of what K Mart makes? How will David Thorpe, an amazing basketball mind and fitness trainer, be able to get K Mart to respect him when he makes less money than K Mart?
He’s making Voisin look good which is equivalent to writing at a 3rd grade level.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 15, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
...ummhhh...Uses Jedi Mind Trick He does...
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 16, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an idiotic premise.
So in other words, if you rehire Eric Musselman at $20 mil per year, he’ll be as effective as Phil Jackson. Because that’s the real reason he was unsuccessful, he was underpaid.
So, you can’t pay Theus “Jackson Money” because he’s never been successful in the NBA, but he’ll never get to be successful in the NBA because he’s not being paid “Jackson Money.”
“There was only one catch, and that was Catch-22…”
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 15, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm still in awe
that this was actually written.
Oakland Raider fan till I DIE!!!
by Robby1987 on Jun 15, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
