Rubio was on a flight from Barcelona to Los Angeles that was scheduled to arrive Monday evening. Over the course of the next few days Rubio will decide his next course of action. Most likely he'll visit several teams, including the Thunder and Kings. However, the chances that he actually does a workout are slim.
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The point I took from the article
was that it’s unlikely Rubio will workout for anyone.
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Until someone announces that oh, wait, he is
Talk about a lot of noise with no substance. Hype is one thing, but you really have to wonder if RR’s camp is making up all these rumors or if the media is making it up because there’s nothing coming from Team Peseta.
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by SavageBeast on Jun 16, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
The not working out thing is getting ridiculous
I understand the reasoning because in most normal draft workout Rubio is not going to shine. He’ll shine a lot more when he’s running a team.
However, Fegan should realize that if he’s going to OKC and Sac then the GMs/coaches he’s dealing with are smart enough to know this already and should show that his client is at least willing to go through a workout. In fact, he should even have Rubio work out for a team like Memphis, were Rubio doesn’t want to go, because we all know damn well Wallace will see him underperform in a workout and decide not to draft the kid
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I have a feeling
Rubio will workout for us. Partly because Chad Ford says he won’t.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 16, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
In Ricky's words
Ayer al llegar a L.A. a las 19:00, charla con D.Fegan sobre el draft, cena y a dormir. Ahora a Sacramento a conocer al coach e instalaciones
Via Ricky’s Twitter, about an hour ago
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With my subpar High School Spanish skills
I deduce it means:
Yesterday I arrived in LA at 7 PM, and met with Dan Fegan to talk about the draft, ate dinner, and went to sleep. Now I’m in Sacramento to learn about the coach and organization.
And according to google translator:
Yesterday, upon arriving in L.A. at 19:00, with D. Fegan talk about the draft, dinner and sleep. Sacramento now known to the coach and facilities
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It seems like,
the Rubio camp has made several missteps with respect to the draft. At one point, Rubio was a possible #1.
His draft stock has decreased due to mismanagement rather than his skill set.
I have a feeling that most of this is hype. We’ll see how good Petrie is at poker come june 25th.
I disagree
I think that Sacramento was the one place he was considered at #1, and even then we were split 50/50. I think most of the league was ready to take Blake Griffin, and that easily could have included Geoff Petrie.
Dan Fegan, Rubio’s agent, made efforts to ensure Rubio would get drafted to a city where he would be marketable, specifically focusing on Los Angeles and Sacramento (presumably in no small part due to the large Spanish-speaking populations, for marketing purposes). I think Memphis would have been very willing to draft Rubio, but Fegan made it clear that he and Rubio had no interest in Memphis. Given that Rubio will have to pay his large buyout if he comes to the NBA, he needs the endorsement dollars of a larger market, and somewhere he is marketable (again, the Spanish-speaking population becomes important). Dictating where you want your client to go is not mismanagement on Fegan’s part. You may not agree with his reasons, but he managed the situation according to his wishes.
The other key is that Rubio does not need to come out this year. He is under contract, and can stay in Europe another season. He makes less money, but it could be worthwhile if he feels it is better than getting stuck in a situation like Memphis.
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He can stay in Europe another season
But it doesn’t sound like he will. He did not pull out of the draft, so whichever team takes him owns his rights at this point.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
They own his rights, true
But wouldn’t he be able to re-enter the draft next year if he’s not under contract? This area certainly is not my strong point. Someone smarter than me should chime in now.
*And for the record, I don’t think he’ll go back to Europe. Just throwing it out there.
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I don't think so
That sounds more like a baseball draft kind of thing. My understanding is that he would be the property of the drafting club, and they would have to trade his rights for him to switch teams.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
But
Surely those rights must expire at some point, wouldn’t they? You could be right, I could be confusing this with the way it works in other sports.
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No
as long as the team keeps making qualifying offers the rights extend…but I believe they might count against the tax. The last point I am not sure of.
Paging pookeyguru
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Looks to me like G would be right
but only if he didn’t play basketball for a year. Since he’s under a non-NBA contract and likely wouldn’t buy out and then sit for a year, the drafting team would retain his rights for one year after his contract ends. From the Salary Cap FAQ.
- If the player is already under contract to, or signs a contract with a non-NBA team, the team retains the player’s draft rights for one year after the player’s obligation to the non-NBA team ends. Essentially, the clock stops as long as the player plays pro ball outside the NBA. Players are not included in the team’s team salary during the regular season while the player is under contract with a non-NBA team.
- If the player was still eligible to play in college before he was drafted, the team retains the player’s draft rights until the draft the player would have entered had he not left college early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2005, they retain his draft rights until the date of the 2007 draft. Note that the current NCAA rules state that players lose their NCAA eligibility if they are drafted, so the player could not return or go on to play college ball.
For all other players, the team retains the player’s draft rights until the date of the next draft.
If he bought out and sat for a year, he could reenter next season. At least that’s the way I read it.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 16, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting
Thanks for the info Kfan.
I wonder if this would be a route Rubio would take if Memphis or OKC draft him? He’s somewhat burned the bridges with DKV Joventut. Might still be a good bargaining chip for Rubio and Fegan, to dictate where they go in the draft.
The tricky question would be when exactly Ricky’s obligation to the non-NBA team would end. After the arbitration of his case? What if that pushes out past the deadline to apply for next year’s draft?
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Good point
It says after the contract ends. Sounds like a big mess, would be easier/better to just play where he’s picked.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 16, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Rubio's contract ends in 2011
Not 2010.
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I'm not really arguing him being the number one pick.
He has been the consensus #2 pick for some time and in the Kings case may have been the number #1.
In my opinion, If he drops below #4 his agent has mismanaged him. The debacle with the Jovenuts has created problems for many teams considering him. Now we have the Spanish government involved and his current team no longer wants him on the roster. In otherwords, he has lost a considerable amount of leverage. None of which has anything to do with his skill set.
Now there’s the problem of not working out for teams.
I’m still wholeheartedly in the Rubio camp and all this hastle may prove to be beneficial for the Kings.I just hope Petrie feels the same way.
I just don’t see taking Holiday, Flynn or Jennings over Rubio.
Rubio’s leadership and basketball IQ in my opinion carries more weight for a team like the Kings than the flash of Jennings.
Time will tell.
by nothingbutnet on Jun 16, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
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